unionhotel Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Watching "Spooks" the other night presented a scenario in which terrorists had kidnapped an influential cartel of industrialists. They were subjected to an Internet trial for alleged crimes against humanity. Could this system ever be adopted in a real life situation? Could this be a genuine solution to crimes or situations where there is widespread public interest? Could we, the people, be allowed to become judge and jury? There are clearly some technical issues and moral issues to be addressed but is this the way forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Watching "Spooks" the other night presented a scenario in which terrorists had kidnapped an influential cartel of industrialists. They were subjected to an Internet trial for alleged crimes against humanity. Could this system ever be adopted in a real life situation? Could this be a genuine solution to crimes or situations where there is widespread public interest? Could we, the people, be allowed to become judge and jury? There are clearly some technical issues and moral issues to be addressed but is this the way forward? Dangerous idea to bring on here. Leave it to us lot and the country will be festooned with gallows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 The origins of the English Common Law predate the Norman Conquest , this continuously developing system of justice (for all its faults) has been widely admired and adopted all over the civilised world . Anyone seriously suggesting we should ditch all that , do away with our time honoured Jury system and descend into the mob rule of the ignorant and ill-informed via the Internet has a screw loose frankly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 The origins of the English Common Law predate the Norman Conquest , this continuously developing system of justice (for all its faults) has been widely admired and adopted all over the civilised world . Anyone seriously suggesting we should ditch all that , do away with our time honoured Jury system and descend into the mob rule of the ignorant and ill-informed via the Internet has a screw loose frankly . Or reads the Sun or Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Dangerous idea to bring on here. Leave it to us lot and the country will be festooned with gallows. And many miscarriages of justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Or reads the Sun or Mail. Exactly. Knee and Jerk come quickly to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 No, where I work we are trialling virtual courts but it is not working very well. You need to get people together in the same room. We may not have a perfect justice system but it is pretty good. Take away the element of people coming together in one place to deal with these issues and you take away the human element that makes it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Can you imagine this in Pompey? There would Peadiatricians hanging from every tree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionhotel Posted 21 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 November, 2009 The origins of the English Common Law predate the Norman Conquest , this continuously developing system of justice (for all its faults) has been widely admired and adopted all over the civilised world . Anyone seriously suggesting we should ditch all that , do away with our time honoured Jury system and descend into the mob rule of the ignorant and ill-informed via the Internet has a screw loose frankly . Clearly, I asked a series of questions concerning possibilities and in no way did I endorse or condemn the feasibility of these actions becoming reality. It's interesting to note, however, that some studies have already been undertaken. Nobody could have envisaged the influence that technology has had on our lives - CCTV cameras being a classic example of remote justice - and it remains concievable that refinements to our justice system could, in time, involve the use of this medium. BTW I neither subscribe to the Sun or the Mail and am genuinely interested to know from people better informed technologically whether it is possible to adopt such a system and whether it could be hi-jacked for nefarious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 There is a virtual court in Kent I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 November, 2009 Share Posted 21 November, 2009 Clearly, I asked a series of questions concerning possibilities and in no way did I endorse or condemn the feasibility of these actions becoming reality. It's interesting to note, however, that some studies have already been undertaken. Nobody could have envisaged the influence that technology has had on our lives - CCTV cameras being a classic example of remote justice - and it remains concievable that refinements to our justice system could, in time, involve the use of this medium. BTW I neither subscribe to the Sun or the Mail and am genuinely interested to know from people better informed technologically whether it is possible to adopt such a system and whether it could be hi-jacked for nefarious reasons. All right I'll take this seriously then . Any proper trial of a serious case will take days/weeks/months of evidence presentation and legal argument - how exactly do you propose that every web user with some say in deciding guilt or innocence has been paying attention throughout this long and involved process ? In a proper Jury system the jurors have to fulfill certain criteria , such as not knowing personally any of the people involved and being law abiding citizens themselves - how do you ensure that over a anonymous broadband connection ? Transmitting the 'trial' over the Internet or TV itself could present problems - I've served on two different jury's (and been Foreman on one) and you really have to be there . A juror needs to be able to asks questions on points of law , he/she can examine evidence in person and discuss the case with their fellows in the privacy of the Juryroom without outside influence or distraction . This is a serious responsibility for serious people , not some meaningless vote on 'Strictly come Dancing' or 'X Factor' :mad: I could go on but I hope you get the point , this is not only a bad idea , it's a dangerous idea if you really care about justice and the rule of law . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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