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Master Bates

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NOT Bullsheet, and NOT doom and gloom, just plain common sense

 

Of course he knew it would take time, we all did

 

But the REALITY is, we have so far Drawn seven, and lost four. The drawn matches alone represent "dropping" Fourteen points

 

We HAVE made great progress I agree, but I do not think we will be "flirting with the playoffs"

 

Sit back and make a realistic assessment. I think that KD may come to the conclusion that we will STILL be in Div 1 next season, and he will want a higher League to play in

 

Nothing doom and gloom about that, just plain simple Realism

 

Glad i'm not into religion.

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Weston Saint

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Totenham are in for Lallana at £5m. Bournemouth have a 25% sell on clause and have been informed of the interest.

 

"The Spurs link, as usual is a non starter. Adam is committed to Saints and is enjoying his football immensely"

 

That is the quote I have just received having emailed his family to verify

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Arizona

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NOT Bullsheet, and NOT doom and gloom, just plain common sense

 

Of course he knew it would take time, we all did

 

But the REALITY is, we have so far Drawn seven, and lost four. The drawn matches alone represent "dropping" Fourteen points

 

We HAVE made great progress I agree, but I do not think we will be "flirting with the playoffs"

 

Sit back and make a realistic assessment. I think that KD may come to the conclusion that we will STILL be in Div 1 next season, and he will want a higher League to play in

 

Nothing doom and gloom about that, just plain simple Realism

 

You don't think he might have thought of that at the start of the season? A crap bunch of players from last year, minus about 8 of the better ones, a new manager, a new board, a new owner and a 10 point deduction to boot.

 

You don't think that possibility MIGHT have occured to him when he signed the contract. :lol:

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Gordon Mockles

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There was nothing to learn from last season no money meant a poor team.

 

It always does and always will

 

So, if you could go back in time, you would remove Pearson (study recent track record to help clarify the point), & still appoint 2 Dutch nobodies from the Wilderness & alienate all your senior pros & force the manager to play largely inadequate youth team players with almost zero experience?!

 

F*ck me, some people have a twisted logic! More so when you consider any questioning of the most idiotic doctrine & chairman in Saints history is answered by the inane "no money" line which was peddled to obscure a multitude of sins! You couldn't make it up! Unbelievable. You're the football forum equivalent of a Nick Griffin supporter!

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Professor

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I'm not overly concerned if Trottman goes back. He's done well and both Saints and him have benefited from the loan deal but at the moment I'd pick Thomas ahead of him and I'm pretty sure it would be possible to pick up a comparable CB, and ideally one with a bit more composure on the ball.

 

I also agree with everyone who is advocating a new DM in January. Someone who can do tohe job Wotton has been doing but with a better range of passing would be a great addition to the squad.

 

It will be interesting to see when Martin gets on the bench. An 18 month contract is not a guarantee of 1st team football this year but he hasn't been signed to be a permanent reserve either. Whether Trotman stays or not, he may have lost his place to Thomas. Pardew already has Perry, Martin and Lancashire, as well as Trotman, and Saville in the reserves on a 3-year deal, which looks like more CBs than the club needs.

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Arizona

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PNE have just announced losses of some £9m for last year. I think if we offered them anything in the region of half a million they'd take it and run. Other than that I'd like to see Perry out and bring back Jan-Paul Saeijs. Not going to happen I know, but I liked Size and think we would have excellent options at the back with those two, Thomas and Jaidi.

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PNE have just announced losses of some £9m for last year. I think if we offered them anything in the region of half a million they'd take it and run. Other than that I'd like to see Perry out and bring back Jan-Paul Saeijs. Not going to happen I know, but I liked Size and think we would have excellent options at the back with those two, Thomas and Jaidi.

 

Jeez, Preston have been there or thereabouts for promotion for as long as Saints have been relegated from the Premiership and before. 9 million looks like a total they can't overlook. So close, and yet so far.

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John B

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So, if you could go back in time, you would remove Pearson (study recent track record to help clarify the point), & still appoint 2 Dutch nobodies from the Wilderness & alienate all your senior pros & force the manager to play largely inadequate youth team players with almost zero experience?!

 

F*ck me, some people have a twisted logic! More so when you consider any questioning of the most idiotic doctrine & chairman in Saints history is answered by the inane "no money" line which was peddled to obscure a multitude of sins! You couldn't make it up! Unbelievable. You're the football forum equivalent of a Nick Griffin supporter!

 

 

Do you not realise the only reason Lowe was appointed was to cut costs in order to save the shareholders money.

 

He did cut costs but not enough and we went into administration.

 

 

But that will not happen again

 

 

It is simple as that I would have thought.

 

 

I dont think Wilde would have brought him back unless he he was desperate.

 

 

The lack of money was the problem caused by paying vast wages to whoever Burley wanted

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Minsk

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If he is not good enough for Coventry why should he be good enough for us?

 

Errmmm, because Coventry are in the division above us?? :rolleyes:

 

Ward is only 24 (will be 25 in Jan) has started 7 games in the CCC this season and, if I remember correctly, takes a decent penalty (this could be useful, for obvious reasons). I think he would be a good addition, especially if Trottman goes back.

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John B

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Errmmm, because Coventry are in the division above us?? :rolleyes:

 

Ward is only 24 (will be 25 in Jan) has started 7 games in the CCC this season and, if I remember correctly, takes a decent penalty (this could be useful, for obvious reasons). I think he would be a good addition, especially if Trottman goes back.

 

I do understand that Coventry are in the Division above us but they are not one of the better teams.

 

Surely if he was any good they would want to keep him.

 

 

If we are to progress we need to get in really good players otherwise when we get to the CCC we will have to start again in building a team.

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krissyboy31

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If he is not good enough for Coventry why should he be good enough for us?

 

Just because he doesn't figure in Coleman's plans doesn't mean he's not good enough to play at that level (or this). Remember Gillett doesn't figure in Pardew's plans and whatever we think of him as a player, he is regularly playing at a level up from us and Donny want to sign him permanently. Horses for courses!

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Saint_clark

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I do understand that Coventry are in the Division above us but they are not one of the better teams.

 

Surely if he was any good they would want to keep him.

 

 

If we are to progress we need to get in really good players otherwise when we get to the CCC we will have to start again in building a team.

 

Dan Harding was released by Ipswich in the summer, are you suggesting he isn't good enough?

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Errmmm, because Coventry are in the division above us?? :rolleyes:

 

Ward is only 24 (will be 25 in Jan) has started 7 games in the CCC this season and, if I remember correctly, takes a decent penalty (this could be useful, for obvious reasons). I think he would be a good addition, especially if Trottman goes back.

Except against us, tbf... :D

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John B

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Dan Harding was released by Ipswich in the summer, are you suggesting he isn't good enough?

 

I think we are in a different situation now.

 

Dan was a good signing as we needed a fullback to allow us to consolidate in League 1

 

 

Now I think we should be looking for higher quality players to take us to the CCC and beyond and I was asking the question whether a Coventry reject was of suitable quality for a contract

 

If we were back in the summer it would have probably been a good move to have signed him

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Minsk

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I think we are in a different situation now.

 

Dan was a good signing as we needed a fullback to allow us to consolidate in League 1

 

 

Now I think we should be looking for higher quality players to take us to the CCC and beyond and I was asking the question whether a Coventry reject was of suitable quality for a contract

 

If we were back in the summer it would have probably been a good move to have signed him

 

So, you think that we (in League 1) should be looking to sign a CB who regularly starts for a top CCC or prem team? :rolleyes:

 

IMO, Ward is better than Trottman (he certainly has more experience).

 

Is Trottman good enough? Should we sign him? Who SHOULD we sign, IYO?

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So, you think that we (in League 1) should be looking to sign a CB who regularly starts for a top CCC or prem team? YES

 

IMO, Ward is better than Trottman (he certainly has more experience).

 

Probably is and may have been a good signing in the summer still maybe a good signing I dont know how good he is

 

Is Trottman good enough? Should we sign him? Probably not but OK for this season if he stays.

 

Like we invested in both Hammond and Lambert I think we should invest in a CB

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Harry Faz

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I am beginning to wonder if Pardew has given up on this lot mentally and is ready to quit himself...

 

Just a hunch but watch his body language on Saturday, I don't like thelook of it lately.

 

We all need to start having more faith. Pardew was brought in as part of a long term project, he is getting the support from the owner - and will not leave becasuse of one bad result. Relax...its all going to be alright in the end ( will be some ups and downs along the way).

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You don't think he might have thought of that at the start of the season? A crap bunch of players from last year, minus about 8 of the better ones, a new manager, a new board, a new owner and a 10 point deduction to boot.

 

You don't think that possibility MIGHT have occured to him when he signed the contract. :lol:

 

 

Why yes, of course, but I doubt if he would have anticipated drawing 7, and losing 4 of the matches played so far

 

IF you are honest with yourself, you would agree that, with the Team Pardew NOW has got together, we should NOT be dropping as many points as we have, and we should be at least 6 points better off, which would mean we would be closer to the elusive 6th place:)

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IF you are honest with yourself, you would agree that, with the Team Pardew NOW has got together, we should NOT be dropping as many points as we have:)

 

We have barley dropped any points with the team pardew has put together.

 

our poor defeats and drab draws came when he was forced to play the likes of Perry, Patterson, Saganowski, jake thompson, lancashire...

 

now he has his team, we have barley stuttered - bar last sunday.

 

have a think before you post.

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Why yes, of course, but I doubt if he would have anticipated drawing 7, and losing 4 of the matches played so far

 

IF you are honest with yourself, you would agree that, with the Team Pardew NOW has got together, we should NOT be dropping as many points as we have, and we should be at least 6 points better off, which would mean we would be closer to the elusive 6th place:)

 

what is it, losing 1, drawing 1, winning 7 - in last 9 games. Guessing he is quite happy with how it is going

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We have barley dropped any points with the team pardew has put together.

 

our poor defeats and drab draws came when he was forced to play the likes of Perry, Patterson, Saganowski, jake thompson, lancashire...

 

now he has his team, we have barley stuttered - bar last sunday.

 

have a think before you post.

 

Norwich is a huge test though, draw or lose that and we haven't won in three league games...

 

Can't afford to do that if we're going to progress into the top half or play offs.

 

Should hopefully do Norwich comfortbly tomorrow,

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Minsk

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So, you think that we (in League 1) should be looking to sign a CB who regularly starts for a top CCC or prem team? YES

 

IMO, Ward is better than Trottman (he certainly has more experience).

 

Probably is and may have been a good signing in the summer still maybe a good signing I dont know how good he is

 

Is Trottman good enough? Should we sign him? Probably not but OK for this season if he stays.

 

Like we invested in both Hammond and Lambert I think we should invest in a CB

 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

So which players, regularly starting in the Prem or CCC, do you think will agree to drop down to a team currently in the bottom 4 of league 1? John Terry, maybe? No, no, don't tell me, Chris Baird, event hough he's not a proper CB and hasn't been starting all that regularly?!

 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

So, you are saying that we shouldn't sign someone like Ward (or at least, severely questioning such an acquisition) but that we should invest as we did with Lambert and Hammond?

 

Just a reminder........

 

We signed Lambert and Hammond from League 1 teams. Ward has been playing in the CCC this season. How is signing a CCC player worse than signing a League 1 player??

 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

P.S. If you now claim to just be playing mind games then I will claim to just be humouring you!!

 

:rolleyes:

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Master Bates

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so complete bull then if it's from the Echo!

 

Yes quite, also mentioned in other media outlets today, they must all be bullsheet then :)

 

 

SWANSEA boss Paulo Sousa is reviving his interest in striker Marek Saganowski, 31.

 

The Pole has been told he is not wanted at Southampton by his manager Alan Pardew.

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