Burley Sacked as Scotland Manager

[Gordon Mockles]

I have to ask... what was Crouch's response? (to them or afterwards)

 

I'd have stood up and claimed "THAT'LL BE ME THEN!" and then put my hand out to introduce myself. Having said that, with Leon's short stature, maybe it wasn't so wise.

 

Or, added "Have you got a problem with that Sweaties?!" It would have been funny and shut them up!!

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I have to ask... what was Crouch's response? (to them or afterwards)

 

He kept a dead straight face (which in fairness he adopts most of the time). I waited until LC had gone to the toilet then told the Jocks who they were seated next to. Their jaws dropped!

 

He was mighty relieved to have been able to get rid off Burley and get compensation. Originally the Scottish FA apparently refused to offer any compensation whatsoever! In the end it was a case of killing two birds with one stone.

Edited 18 November, 2009 by Fitzhugh Fella

[John B]

He kept a dead straight face (which in fairness he adopts most of the time). I waited until LC had gone to the toilet then told the Jocks who they were seated next to. Their jaws dropped!

 

He was mighty relieved to have been able to get rid off Burley and get compensation. Originally the Scottish FA apparently refused to offer any compensation whatsoever! In the end it was a case of killing two birds with one stone.

 

I suppose he wanted to sack George but had no money to pay him off

[slickmick]

He kept a dead straight face (which in fairness he adopts most of the time). I waited until LC had gone to the toilet then told the Jocks who they were seated next to. Their jaws dropped!

 

He was mighty relieved to have been able to get rid off Burley and get compensation. Originally the Scottish FA apparently refused to offer any compensation whatsoever! In the end it was a case of killing two birds with one stone.

 

 

Have you had a conversation regarding his drinking habits ? I still find it hard to believe if he did have a problem that he would not have been exposed more publicly.

 

ps Burley, not Crouch.

[Thedelldays]

Have you had a conversation regarding his drinking habits ? I still find it hard to believe if he did have a problem that he would not have been exposed more publicly.

no one wants to believe it on here....no one

[Badger]

I suppose he wanted to sack George but had no money to pay him off

 

That was widely mooted,especially on here,after a heavy defeat at Sheff Weds from recollection.

[Junior Mullet]

He kept a dead straight face (which in fairness he adopts most of the time). I waited until LC had gone to the toilet then told the Jocks who they were seated next to. Their jaws dropped!

 

He was mighty relieved to have been able to get rid off Burley and get compensation. Originally the Scottish FA apparently refused to offer any compensation whatsoever! In the end it was a case of killing two birds with one stone.

 

I hope you had dinner with Rupert too - in the interest of keeping your historical views fair and balanced ;0)

 

I wonder if Rupert would have been able to keep a straight face and a laced tongue?!

[Foxstone]

I hope you had dinner with Rupert too - in the interest of keeping your historical views fair and balanced ;0)

 

I wonder if Rupert would have been able to keep a straight face and a lanced tongue?!

 

One small amendment perhaps

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I suppose he wanted to sack George but had no money to pay him off

 

Got it in one, I think. Or at least that was the impression LC wanted to give.

[Fowllyd]

Have you had a conversation regarding his drinking habits ? I still find it hard to believe if he did have a problem that he would not have been exposed more publicly.

no one wants to believe it on here....no one

 

Well, no more than about half the posters - see various posts on this thread referring to booze for starters.

[saint_stevo]

Off to Pompey

[syd_barrett_saint]

Not having a go at you, thought your post was a fair one. More a comment in general. I think Burley had too bad a press on here frankly. Despite his issues he was still arguably one of the more successful of the ****e managers we're had since WGS! (Pardew excepted!)

fair enough! thanks for clearing that up, and apologies if i jumped to a conclusion (i thought maybe you were replying to me but had forgot to quote me)

 

Burley may appear to have been successful if you look purely at the points won stats, but if you consider the money spent and the squad he had, he was a complete failure for not getting us promoted automatically in the play-off year, and a lot of that was to do with him never even trying to aim for 1st place (he was happy with the play-offs, and in the end we almost didn't get that).

 

if we had had a good manager that year instead of Burley, we wouldn't be in League 1 today (but then, we may not have a Swiss billionaire in charge, so it's not all bad)

[Channon's Sideburns]

Burley sacked?

 

Hahaha...:-)

[Channon's Sideburns]

To be honest, Burley is one of the main people responsible for the fact that we are in League 1 and almost went out of business. OK, so maybe not up there with Lowe, Wilde et al, but almost...

 

With the money Burley spent, and the squad he had in the playoff year, we should have been promoted automatically - a decent manager would have achieved that. But Burley basically sabotaged that by declaring in public that we were aiming for the playoffs, which was not the positive attitude needed to get promoted. In fact, in the end we were very lucky to get into the playoffs.

 

The thing is, I used to really rate him before he came to Saints. What exactly happened to him at Hearts? You hear rumors something strange happened, but I still have no idea what exactly. Are people just referring to the alleged alcoholism?

 

Halelujah! Spot on - he only aimed for the playoffs..lack of ambition which fed to the players.

[Scudamore]

Got it in one, I think. Or at least that was the impression LC wanted to give.

 

LC pandering to popular opinion? Shocking...

[alpine_saint]

How utterly superb would it be if Burley really were to end up down the other end of the M27 ???

[sadoldgit]

How utterly superb would it be if Burley really were to end up down the other end of the M27 ???

 

You are a very strange little man Alpine, and you call me obsessive!

 

Will you give Pardew te same treatment if he gets us into the play offs I wonder?

 

Redknapp sepnt £6m and took us down. He then did F*all about getting us back up again but not a peep from you about him. Why is that?

 

You hero Nigel Pearson only managed 3 wins in 13 games and was 20 minutes away from relegation but no criticism from you.

 

One full season and a play off place that would have led to a play off final if it wasn't for a couple of individual mistakes on the pitch. Highest win ratio. A win every other match. Yet that is supposed to be rubbish.

 

What equals success in the World of Alpine? You just seem to pick certain people and decide that because they don't fit in with the Alpine Sceme Of Things that you will spend endless hours finding opportunties to slag them off.

 

We have had a succession of managers since Burley was here, none of whom have won matches at the same rate, although Pardew might change that. Grow up and move on.

[alpine_saint]

You are a very strange little man Alpine, and you call me obsessive!

 

Will you give Pardew te same treatment if he gets us into the play offs I wonder?

 

Redknapp sepnt £6m and took us down. He then did F*all about getting us back up again but not a peep from you about him. Why is that?

 

You hero Nigel Pearson only managed 3 wins in 13 games and was 20 minutes away from relegation but no criticism from you.

 

One full season and a play off place that would have led to a play off final if it wasn't for a couple of individual mistakes on the pitch. Highest win ratio. A win every other match. Yet that is supposed to be rubbish.

 

What equals success in the World of Alpine? You just seem to pick certain people and decide that because they don't fit in with the Alpine Sceme Of Things that you will spend endless hours finding opportunties to slag them off.

 

We have had a succession of managers since Burley was here, none of whom have won matches at the same rate, although Pardew might change that. Grow up and move on.

 

Keep venting your spleen, SOGGY. Your Messiah is washed up.

[John B]

Keep venting your spleen, SOGGY. Your Messiah is washed up.

 

I sometimes wonder if Alpine posts as SOG to have an argument:confused:

 

 

As most of SOG's posts seem to be directed at him

[sadoldgit]

Keep venting your spleen, SOGGY. Your Messiah is washed up.

 

As I said, grow up. He is not my Messiah (what a stupidthing to say). I just see that he had a decent record with us and Ipswich and Hearts. It is called balance.

 

I usually agree totally with the notion of free speech.

 

Unfortunately in your case I think that someone should stick duct tape across your mouth and chop off you fingers so you can no longer contine with these pathetic little vendettas against people whose only sin is that they seemed to have upset you by doing their jobs below the ridiculous standards you set for them.

 

Once again you fail to answer my points, that is simply because in that strange world of yours you actually know what you do and say is totally unreasonable in the real world. But you can't help yourself. It is like some mutated form of Tourettes.

 

It has been suggested that if you gave a monkey a typewriter and unlimited time he would eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare.

 

Give Alpine a typewriter and unlimited time and he would never get that far because he gets stuck at abusing someone he has never met forever...poor old Romeo wouldn't even get to first base with Juliet, Henry V wouldn't make it to France, the Princes in the Tower would live happily ever after and the B U R L E Y keys would be worn to stumps.

[alpine_saint]

As I said, grow up. He is not my Messiah (what a stupidthing to say). I just see that he had a decent record with us and Ipswich and Hearts. It is called balance.

 

I usually agree totally with the notion of free speech.

 

Unfortunately in your case I think that someone should stick duct tape across your mouth and chop off you fingers so you can no longer contine with these pathetic little vendettas against people whose only sin is that they seemed to have upset you by doing their jobs below the ridiculous standards you set for them.

 

Once again you fail to answer my points, that is simply because in that strange world of yours you actually know what you do and say is totally unreasonable in the real world. But you can't help yourself. It is like some mutated form of Tourettes.

 

It has been suggested that if you gave a monkey a typewriter and unlimited time he would eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare.

 

Give Alpine a typewriter and unlimited time and he would never get that far because he gets stuck at abusing someone he has never met forever...poor old Romeo wouldn't even get to first base with Juliet, Henry V wouldn't make it to France, the Princes in the Tower would live happily ever after and the B U R L E Y keys would be worn to stumps.

 

I really think you need some help. As John B has written, your posts are all directed at me. Not a single other poster who has celebrated the car-crash of Burley's managerial career has been addressed by you.

 

Your obsession is really not at all healthy.

 

And its not as if you have anything new to say, is it ? Same old half-dozen points regurgitated ad nauseam...

[JackFrost]

You are a very strange little man Alpine, and you call me obsessive!

 

Will you give Pardew te same treatment if he gets us into the play offs I wonder?

 

Redknapp sepnt £6m and took us down. He then did F*all about getting us back up again but not a peep from you about him. Why is that?

 

You hero Nigel Pearson only managed 3 wins in 13 games and was 20 minutes away from relegation but no criticism from you.

 

One full season and a play off place that would have led to a play off final if it wasn't for a couple of individual mistakes on the pitch. Highest win ratio. A win every other match. Yet that is supposed to be rubbish.

 

What equals success in the World of Alpine? You just seem to pick certain people and decide that because they don't fit in with the Alpine Sceme Of Things that you will spend endless hours finding opportunties to slag them off.

 

We have had a succession of managers since Burley was here, none of whom have won matches at the same rate, although Pardew might change that. Grow up and move on.

 

You have ignored the fact that the managerial situations were completely different as to when NP and GB were here.

 

Burley had one of the best squads in the league, publicly aimed for the absolute minimum in the league, and made numerous schoolboy tactical errors and bizarre tactical decisions on a weekly basis to get there. Decisions so bizarre us uneducated fans could see they were losing us points. Needlessly changing winning teams for games we lost, sticking with average players no matter how poor their form etc etc. I'm sure I don't need to list them all.

 

The appointment of Pearson was the classic 'closing the door after the horse had bolted' on the part of Crouch. The club was in freefall, the board room unrest was in a crescendo, none of the players wanted to be here and half of the first team weren't here cos they'd been loaned out to other clubs. We were sliding down the table at an alarming rate and IMO NP did a a very good job in keeping us up.

 

The reason why so many knock GB is because after relegation he had far more resources and quality players at his disposal than any other manager in our recent history and he achieved very little with it. Pearson (for example) did a far better job with far less resources. Your trying to spin the statistics to suit your own flawed argument. He actually W3 D7 L4 in his time here. 16 points in 14 games. Considering the resources he had when he was here and the dire state of the club? Very impressive IMO. (and look how both Pearson and Burley are doing now respectively)

 

Besides, if you've just so happened to have visited any fans forum for the Scottish national football team recently, you may find the contents of certain threads re Burley strangely familiar. . . . . .

Edited 20 November, 2009 by JackFrost

[alpine_saint]

You have ignored the fact that the managerial situations were completely different as to when NP and GB were here.

 

Burley had one of the best squads in the league, publicly aimed for the absolute minimum in the league, and made numerous schoolboy tactical errors and bizarre tactical decisions on a weekly basis to get there. Decisions so bizarre us uneducated fans could see they were losing us points. Needlessly changing winning teams for games we lost, sticking with average players no matter how poor their form etc etc. I'm sure I don't need to list them all.

 

The appointment of Pearson was the classic 'closing the door after the horse had bolted' on the part of Crouch. The club was in freefall, the board room unrest was in a crescendo, none of the players wanted to be here and half of the first team weren't here cos they'd been loaned out to other clubs. We were sliding down the table at an alarming rate and IMO NP did a a very good job in keeping us up.

 

The reason why so many knock GB is because after relegation he had far more resources and quality players at his disposal than any other manager in our recent history and he achieved very little with it. Pearson (for example) did a far better job with far less resources. Your trying to spin the statistics to suit your own flawed argument. He actually W3 D7 L4 in his time here. 16 points in 14 games. Considering the resources he had when he was here and the dire state of the club? Very impressive IMO. (and look how both Pearson and Burley are doing now respectively)

 

Besides, if you've just so happened to have visited any fans forum for the Scottish national football team recently, you may find the contents of certain threads re Burley strangely familiar. . . . . .

 

You dont expect SOGGY to pay any attention to any facts other than the ones he's cherry-picked, do you ???

[sadoldgit]

I really think you need some help. As John B has written, your posts are all directed at me. Not a single other poster who has celebrated the car-crash of Burley's managerial career has been addressed by you.

 

Your obsession is really not at all healthy.

 

And its not as if you have anything new to say, is it ? Same old half-dozen points regurgitated ad nauseam...

 

Okay lets examine the facts shall we rather than your petty vendetta.

 

Car crash? Hardly at Ipwish were he took them up and then into Europe. Hardly at Hearts where he broke the stranglehold of Celtic and Rangers when he was there.

 

In his only full season for us he finished with a league record of 21 wins and 12 draws out of 46 games or 1.63 points a game. We were the second highest scorers after Sunderland.

 

So in your book that is a "car crash" and makes him a rubbish manager?

 

He may not be the best manager ever but the stats prove that he was not "rubbish."

 

Of course in your book someone who manages 3 wins in 13 is some kind of hero so I appreciate that you are never go to see how ridiculous your statements are, but then you were shown up as a complete idiot yesterday when berating Pardew fof his substitution and saying he was playing for a draw we immediately went 2-1 up! I can see where you were coming from though, why score if you are playing for a draw?

 

I'd love to see your posts if you supported Manchester United of Chelsea. I bert you would be suicidal at the moment. All those wins and all that success? Oh my God. Train wrecks.

 

As for cherry picking facts, I love the way you dismiss his stats as having been cherry picked. I assume we are debating whether he was a rubbish manager for SFC or not? The "cherry picked" facts show that he was he most successful in terms of points on the board and wins. If I wanted to cheery pick I suppose I could point out that he didn't hve players of the caibre of Channon, Ball and Osgood at his disposal as LM did in the old 2nd divison, or point out that although he is supposed to have guaranteed us promotion after spending £6m when a so called better manager spent £8m and is fighting relegation, but, het, lets not let facts get in the way of a good vendetta eh?

 

I hope that you are enjoying life in the 3rd division, personally I preferred it when we were fighting for promotion under that "rubbish" manager you so despise.

 

As for Pearson and his achievements at Leicester, lets see if he can get them into the Premieship and Europe straight away before we compare shall we?

 

And as for the Scotland job, I find it interested as such famous Jocks as Strachan and Souness wouldn't touch the job with a barge poll right now. I wonder why that is?

Edited 22 November, 2009 by sadoldgit

[Thedelldays]

SoG...you are clearly on your own in thinking burley is any good..

 

even his own nation think he is crud lol

[sadoldgit]

SoG...you are clearly on your own in thinking burley is any good..

 

even his own nation think he is crud lol

 

Well obvioulsy the people who employ him must think something of him? I am sure Hearts fans and Ipswich fans think he was good. And it is just me that thinks that a manager who can put 1.63 points on the board over a season is not "rubbish" so I can live with that because Redknapp, JP Wotte and Pearson were unable to win that many points. But hen they weren't "rubbish" were they?

 

There can't be many clubs who let a manager (who had £6m to spend too remember) who took us down off the hook but slate another for taking us into the play offs?

 

I suppose it all depends on your interpretaion of "rubbish."

 

By the way, if Burley is such an alchy how come this hasn't come to light as one of the reasons that Scotland failed? Duncan, haven't you been feeding the media your tidbits???

[Thedelldays]

Well obvioulsy the people who employ him must think something of him? I am sure Hearts fans and Ipswich fans think he was good. And it is just me that thinks that a manager who can put 1.63 points on the board over a season is not "rubbish" so I can live with that because Redknapp, JP Wotte and Pearson were unable to win that many points. But hen they weren't "rubbish" were they?

 

There can't be many clubs who let a manager (who had £6m to spend too remember) who took us down off the hook but slate another for taking us into the play offs?

 

I suppose it all depends on your interpretaion of "rubbish."

 

By the way, if Burley is such an alchy how come this hasn't come to light as one of the reasons that Scotland failed? Duncan, haven't you been feeding the media your tidbits???

 

 

again...his own nation, fans, SFA and players think he is...err CRAP

[St Landrew]

SoG...you are clearly on your own in thinking burley is any good..

 

even his own nation think he is crud lol

 

Tbf, Burley is not half as bad as Saints supporters like to paint him. It's easy to jump on the George Burley is crap bandwagon, because most people who would have a good word to say about him have let that era go, or are too wise to pop their heads above the trench.

 

It's quite clear that for Ipswich and Hearts, Burley did extremely well, even though Ipswich were finally relegated under his tenure. That speaks equally of the circumstances at Ipswich than purely about Burley. At Hearts he was doing very well, but fell out with the Board, and who could blame him. At Saints, he arrived with huge expectation on him, and nearly delivered. But we can see from the events after his time how awful it might have been to work under that regime.

 

For Scotland he has been saddled with the now usual quality of Scottish players. OK, Walter Smith did better with them, but not everybody is Walter Smith, and certainly not Alex Ferguson, who steers clear of management of Scotland like it is a plague to be avoided.

 

To me Burley is your average competent football manager who, given the right circumstances, will do well for a club, but won't be able to work miracles if things go against him. And how many managers can you say they will, work miracles when things go against them, anyway..?

 

BTW, isn't it time this thread was over..?

[sadoldgit]

again...his own nation, fans, SFA and players think he is...err CRAP

 

And Sunderland fans think Lawrie McMenemy is cr*p. And Coventry fas think that Gordon Strachan is cr*p. So what?

 

He might not be the best manager in the world but if we are talking about SFC then he must be in the 2nd tier of managers behind McMenemy and Bates but alongside Strachan and Hoddle for his results alone.

 

I can see how those who are still deeply embittered about Lowe and Woodward dislike him because they appointed him but if you stand back and look at the actual facts, what did he really do that was that terrible?

 

So he spent £6m and didn't get us up. We weren't far off. Redknapp spent £6m and took us down. keane spent £8m and look where Ipswich are. God knows how much Chelsea have spent on trying to win the Champions League, how many have they won exactly?

 

So one full season and cerainly one of the best teams in the divison. Not so bad. Many will say we "scrapped" into the play offs but we were only 1 point behind the two teams above us and beat the team above us 6-0 at there place.

 

The next season we have problems at Board level. Jones, Bale and Baid, all now playing for Premiership clubs, are sold, and Hone makes his statement saying effectively we are no longer interested in pushing for promotion....and somehow that is Burley's fault?

 

I am not saying nor have I ever said, that he has been our best manager (although statswise so far he IS). But to clall him "rubbish" or a "car wreck" is stupid beyond words.

[Thedelldays]

And Sunderland fans think Lawrie McMenemy is cr*p. And Coventry fas think that Gordon Strachan is cr*p. So what?

 

He might not be the best manager in the world but if we are talking about SFC then he must be in the 2nd tier of managers behind McMenemy and Bates but alongside Strachan and Hoddle for his results alone.

 

I can see how those who are still deeply embittered about Lowe and Woodward dislike him because they appointed him but if you stand back and look at the actual facts, what did he really do that was that terrible?

 

So he spent £6m and didn't get us up. We weren't far off. Redknapp spent £6m and took us down. keane spent £8m and look where Ipswich are. God knows how much Chelsea have spent on trying to win the Champions League, how many have they won exactly?

 

So one full season and cerainly one of the best teams in the divison. Not so bad. Many will say we "scrapped" into the play offs but we were only 1 point behind the two teams above us and beat the team above us 6-0 at there place.

 

The next season we have problems at Board level. Jones, Bale and Baid, all now playing for Premiership clubs, are sold, and Hone makes his statement saying effectively we are no longer interested in pushing for promotion....and somehow that is Burley's fault?

 

I am not saying nor have I ever said, that he has been our best manager (although statswise so far he IS). But to clall him "rubbish" or a "car wreck" is stupid beyond words.

 

 

are you trying to convice anyone..he is a dud and will be l ucky to get a job in the top two leagues in england for a long time, if at all..

 

he is past it now

[sadoldgit]

Tbf, Burley is not half as bad as Saints supporters like to paint him. It's easy to jump on the George Burley is crap bandwagon, because most people who would have a good word to say about him have let that era go, or are too wise to pop their heads above the trench.

 

It's quite clear that for Ipswich and Hearts, Burley did extremely well, even though Ipswich were finally relegated under his tenure. That speaks equally of the circumstances at Ipswich than purely about Burley. At Hearts he was doing very well, but fell out with the Board, and who could blame him. At Saints, he arrived with huge expectation on him, and nearly delivered. But we can see from the events after his time how awful it might have been to work under that regime.

 

For Scotland he has been saddled with the now usual quality of Scottish players. OK, Walter Smith did better with them, but not everybody is Walter Smith, and certainly not Alex Ferguson, who steers clear of management of Scotland like it is a plague to be avoided.

 

To me Burley is your average competent football manager who, given the right circumstances, will do well for a club, but won't be able to work miracles if things go against him. And how many managers can you say they will, work miracles when things go against them, anyway..?

 

BTW, isn't it time this thread was over..?

 

Sadly this thread, or threads like them, will never be over whilst certain posters continue to peddle their vendetta against him (and others from a certain "era"). Nice balanced post by the way. It is a shame more people can't see the grey and only deal in black and white.

[Thedelldays]

Sadly this thread, or threads like them, will never be over whilst certain posters continue to peddle their vendetta against him (and others from a certain "era"). Nice balanced post by the way. It is a shame more people can't see the grey and only deal in black and white.

 

certain people..?

 

mate, nearly all on this thread have said he was and now is crap..hardly certain people is it

[sadoldgit]

are you trying to convice anyone..he is a dud and will be l ucky to get a job in the top two leagues in england for a long time, if at all..

 

he is past it now

 

Tell me, how many managers get sacked (and in your terms are therfore "duds") each season and how many end up managing again in the Premiership or CCC?

 

He failed with Scotland, so what?

 

Where else has he actually "failed" (in real terms)?

 

He did a lot better for us than a number of managers and I wish him well in his next job. Why wouldn't you? It is a shame that we can't treat people who did a reasonable job for us with a bit of respect.

[sadoldgit]

certain people..?

 

mate, nearly all on this thread have said he was and now is crap..hardly certain people is it

 

I wouldn't say that a number of cyber jockeys on a small website constituated a consensus amongst all Saints/football fans.

[Thedelldays]

Tell me, how many managers get sacked (and in your terms are therfore "duds") each season and how many end up managing again in the Premiership or CCC?

 

He failed with Scotland, so what?

 

Where else has he actually "failed" (in real terms)?

 

He did a lot better for us than a number of managers and I wish him well in his next job. Why wouldn't you? It is a shame that we can't treat people who did a reasonable job for us with a bit of respect.

 

you are wasting your time in trying to point anything out to me..

 

nearly all that have posted have suggested that burley is C R A P..I certainly agree..

 

he will NOT get a job in the top two leagues in england for a long time...jesus, scottish players were queuing up to retire under him...HAHAHAHAHA and no matter what you say to me about what he did 8 years ago it wont change my mind

 

thankfully, football will be without barley for a long time now

[View From The Top]

I'm sure there will be a multitude of clubs queuing up for his services after is sterling recent success at Derby, Saints and Scotland.

[sadoldgit]

We shall seen then. Personally I don't understand why there is this hatred towards someone who did a reasonable job for us, but I guess every fan base has people who just have to hate someone for whatever reason.

[View From The Top]

We shall seen then. Personally I don't understand why there is this hatred towards someone who did a reasonable job for us, but I guess every fan base has people who just have to hate someone for whatever reason.

 

I doubt people hate him, just recorgnise that his tenure was poor.

 

He had a good(ish) 1st season and 2nd season was beyond dire.

 

Get over it and move on.

[CB Fry]

 

It's quite clear that for Ipswich and Hearts, Burley did extremely well, even though Ipswich were finally relegated under his tenure. At Hearts he was doing very well, but fell out with the Board, and who could blame him.

 

 

 

He managed Hearts for twelve whole games, so there is absolutely no way anyone can judge whether he was a success there or not. A glorified caretaker manager tenure that the Burley worshippers rave on and on about like he won the frigging Uefa Cup there.

[alpine_saint]

I find the fact that SOGGY is still going with his one-man crusade utterly pitiful. Especially as anyone (especially me) who dares point out what a useless manager Burley was for us is accused of hating him. I dont, and I dont reckon anyone else does, but I do hate the legacy he left. But then, making that particular accusation just fits with the hopelessness and facileness of the position SOGGY is arguing...

 

At least it gets him some attention, I suppose.

[hypochondriac]

Seriously? You seriously think that Burley was in the same pool as Strachan for us? Mental.

[saint lard]

I'm sure there will be a multitude of clubs queuing up for his services after is sterling recent success at Derby, Saints and Scotland.

 

Ohh,please let it be the Skates.

[sadoldgit]

I find the fact that SOGGY is still going with his one-man crusade utterly pitiful. Especially as anyone (especially me) who dares point out what a useless manager Burley was for us is accused of hating him. I dont, and I dont reckon anyone else does, but I do hate the legacy he left. But then, making that particular accusation just fits with the hopelessness and facileness of the position SOGGY is arguing...

 

At least it gets him some attention, I suppose.

 

Pot ketle black once again Alpine when it comes to seeking attention. You obviosuly didn't get enough as a child...anyway...

 

Here we go again "usless for us". You still choose to ignore the point that he put more points on the board than any Saints manager and yet he was "usless". The legacy he left? Second highest scorers in the divsion and into the play offs, what a complete bastard. Nearer the play offs than relegation when he left yet you still chose to blame him (even though Pearson only managed 3 wins in 13). Still close you eyes stick your fingers in your ears and sing la la la very loudly.

 

As long as you and your ilk have pantomine villians to blame all will be right in your world.

 

There are plenty of people on here who can see that the bloke wasn't the worst manager of all time but unlike me, they can't be bothered to rise to your childish taunts. I'll let you get on with it now, I have a life to get on with.

[sadoldgit]

He managed Hearts for twelve whole games, so there is absolutely no way anyone can judge whether he was a success there or not. A glorified caretaker manager tenure that the Burley worshippers rave on and on about like he won the frigging Uefa Cup there.

 

Funny that as Pearson managed for 13 whole games and he has been judged as some kind of hero for us??? Ah, I see, that 1 game mkes all the difference!!!

 

Frankly I think anyone who can break the Celtic/Rangers monopoly/monotomy deserves some credit, as do they for taking a team like Ipswich up and into Europe. But then once we have someone to blame for our demise let's not let any facts get in the way.

 

Still find it odd that someone who won football matches and scored lots of goals is derided more than the bloke who took us down, but that is internet chat sites for you I suppose.

[ozzmeister]

Im gonna throw a quick side ball in.

 

During the summer we were linked with Keegan and everyone was very happy about it. However his recent record - failed with England, didnt do great at his last job at the Toon yet in past eras he was very good. Sound familier?

 

Im n ot particulary pro or against Burley just putting things a bit into perspective - please feel free to shout me down though, I'm not s statto like some on here.

[alpine_saint]

Pot ketle black once again Alpine when it comes to seeking attention. You obviosuly didn't get enough as a child...anyway...

 

Here we go again "usless for us". You still choose to ignore the point that he put more points on the board than any Saints manager and yet he was "usless". The legacy he left? Second highest scorers in the divsion and into the play offs, what a complete bastard. Nearer the play offs than relegation when he left yet you still chose to blame him (even though Pearson only managed 3 wins in 13). Still close you eyes stick your fingers in your ears and sing la la la very loudly.

 

As long as you and your ilk have pantomine villians to blame all will be right in your world.

 

There are plenty of people on here who can see that the bloke wasn't the worst manager of all time but unlike me, they can't be bothered to rise to your childish taunts. I'll let you get on with it now, I have a life to get on with.

 

Then get on with it and stop tracking my perfectly valid opinion like a internet pervert.

[alpine_saint]

Im gonna throw a quick side ball in.

 

During the summer we were linked with Keegan and everyone was very happy about it. However his recent record - failed with England, didnt do great at his last job at the Toon yet in past eras he was very good. Sound familier?

 

Im n ot particulary pro or against Burley just putting things a bit into perspective - please feel free to shout me down though, I'm not s statto like some on here.

 

Plenty of people on here recognised that whilst Keegan was a good motivator, he wasnt that good unless offered a kings ransom to spend in the transfer market.

[JackFrost]

Funny that as Pearson managed for 13 whole games and he has been judged as some kind of hero for us??? Ah, I see, that 1 game mkes all the difference!!!

Frankly I think anyone who can break the Celtic/Rangers monopoly/monotomy deserves some credit, as do they for taking a team like Ipswich up and into Europe. But then once we have someone to blame for our demise let's not let any facts get in the way.

 

Still find it odd that someone who won football matches and scored lots of goals is derided more than the bloke who took us down, but that is internet chat sites for you I suppose.

 

That might be due to the fact he took the club over when it was in complete freefall and saved us from relegation that season? You don't think that might have something to do with it?

 

Your posts are saying to me that you are only judging our recent managers performances on the quantitative statistics alone. Sorry but that is extremely short-sighted.

[alpine_saint]

That might be due to the fact he took the club over when it was in complete freefall and saved us from relegation that season? You don't think that might have something to do with it?

 

Your posts are saying to me that you are only judging our recent managers performances on the quantitative statistics alone. Sorry but that is extremely short-sighted.

 

Thats being polite. Its all he has to cling on to. By every other metric than statistics, Burley was a SH*T manager for SFC.

 

He achieved nothing, and did more than his fair share in bankrupting the club.

[CB Fry]

Funny that as Pearson managed for 13 whole games and he has been judged as some kind of hero for us??? Ah, I see, that 1 game mkes all the difference!!!

 

Frankly I think anyone who can break the Celtic/Rangers monopoly/monotomy deserves some credit, as do they for taking a team like Ipswich up and into Europe. But then once we have someone to blame for our demise let's not let any facts get in the way.

 

Still find it odd that someone who won football matches and scored lots of goals is derided more than the bloke who took us down, but that is internet chat sites for you I suppose.

 

 

Who's talking about Pearson apart from you, you sad obsessed idiot.