I've been pretty impressed with Lowe.

[itchen]

Where has he denied being in agony ? Or in your opinion is him saying "its sore" the same as "I categorically deny being in agony" ? Talk about me making things up.

 

 

He hasn't denied being homosexual, being a Nazi or having a fondness for Battenburg cake but I'm not aware that any of these things are true either.

[hypochondriac]

Last season after 4 games we had 6 points, scored 6, conceded 8.

 

This season after 4 games we have 3 points, scored 3, conceded 5.

 

Personally, I think the most important stat is the points one.

 

Happy to help.

 

As do I but eelpie said that it was the managers failiure to get a defence together which will relegate us. As I said our current problem is our inability to convert our chances and not the defence

[alpine_saint]

He hasn't denied being homosexual, being a Nazi or having a fondness for Battenburg cake but I'm not aware that any of these things are true either.

 

What ridiculous analogies. Killer has an underlying medical condition with reported history. There has never been any historical reporting of his sexuality, political affiliation or dessert preferences.

[eelpie]

Eelpie is saying that our defence is worse than last year. I dispute that

 

No I didn't say that.

 

This time last year our whole team was in disarray, and sure we conceded goals horribly (although scoring freely).

I am comparing our current defence with what we had at the end of last season. We also had Andrew Davies recuperating in the wings. Had Lowe refused to release Davies we would now be reasonably well provided. He gambled on Killer being fit for the season. He did not have to release Davies. He was not man enough to say no. He has not been able to replace him with a comparable force. But he has been bringing in lesser players which add to the wage bill. We need quality, not more 'might be ok's'. I am not dissing our youngsters. But they are not yet quite tough enough for 95 minutes of football twice a week. Blackpool proved that.

[OldNick]

He hasn't denied being homosexual, being a Nazi or having a fondness for Battenburg cake but I'm not aware that any of these things are true either.

True and if having a sore knee equates to being in agony , does having a sore head mean you are in agony? It is twisting words to support his arguement. Alpine is correct that something looks sinister by why should he worry as he only rates Svennson as a cripple anyway.

[eelpie]

As do I but eelpie said that it was the managers failiure to get a defence together which will relegate us. As I said our current problem is our inability to convert our chances and not the defence

 

That is the other issue.

[OldNick]

No I didn't say that.

 

This time last year our whole team was in disarray, and sure we conceded goals horribly (although scoring freely).

I am comparing our current defence with what we had at the end of last season. We also had Andrew Davies recuperating in the wings. Had Lowe refused to release Davies we would now be reasonably well provided. He gambled on Killer being fit for the season. He did not have to release Davies. He was not man enough to say no. He has not been able to replace him with a comparable force. But he has been bringing in lesser players which add to the wage bill. We need quality, not more 'might be ok's'. I am not dissing our youngsters. But they are not yet quite tough enough for 95 minutes of football twice a week. Blackpool proved that.

Ellpie, the whole squad was for sale as we needed money.Davies would be foolish to turn down the increase in salary and the chance of PL football.Surely even the most rose tinted fan would accept he was not going to turn that down.

[Fan The Flames]

I can’t believe this continuing Lowe adulation by the muppets on here. People have bought into the myth that he is a pair of safe hands financially, but the easiest thing to do to an ailing company is to come in a slash costs, the hard bit is to get people buying again. The laugh of the situation is that he is coming into a ‘save’ a failing business that he caused to fail in the first place.

 

Every so often football steps up a gear and those clubs he don’t respond get left behind, Lowe biggest gaff and it can’t be denied was that he didn’t push the team onwards when required. He is meant to be such a good business man but he didn’t see the increase in football revenue that was just around the corner and he didn’t set Southampton up to ensure we were a part of that. He is an average chancer having another go at our club.

 

But the muppets on here just lap up everything he does, I thought we were supporters of a football team but it seems more are concern with their support of the chairman.

 

What is he doing that’s so ‘revolutionary’, Lowe isn’t the first bloke to play with kids, Crystal Palarse did it last year to name one example.

Edited 14 September, 2008 by Fan The Flames

[um pahars]

I am not dissing our youngsters. But they are not yet quite tough enough for 95 minutes of football twice a week. Blackpool proved that.

 

I agree with what you're saying and I also don't think anyone is dissing our youngsters, merely pointing out it's a pretty big gamble to be relying on them to fill such an important position in the team.

 

It wasn't long ago that even Poortvliet was unsure about using them, and as he had arranged to send Lancashire out on loan to Orient!!!!

[alpine_saint]

Alpine is correct that something looks sinister by why should he worry as he only rates Svennson as a cripple anyway.

 

Your drivel gets more pathetic by the hour.

 

He is a cripple because the way in which he would have chosen to lead his life has been crippled by a major injury.

 

What part of that dont you bloody understand ? I rated Killer as a massive player for us in 2002-2003, and I still think he could have a major impact if he can put his injury problems behind him, but I am sure he cannot.

 

And he was also a cheap option for Rupert Lowe that enabled him to push Davies out of the door. And just like the Killer/Fitz Hall situation in the relegation season, we are going to pay a huge price for that decision

[dubai_phil]

I wish to state categorically that due to surgery 13 years ago, I sometimes wake up with a sore knee.

The knee is sore, it sometimes requires an anti-inflammatory.

 

I also wish to point out that I am in agony.

The agony is caused by a viral stomach bug that is passing through Dubai. I am in agony as I was unfortunate enough to contract the bug after eating a spicy Thai Tom Yam Gung soup, and having been to the squirter 4 times already this morning

 

So I have a sore knee and I am in agony. Hope that helps to prove that the two HAVE to be related.

 

ugh gotta run

[eelpie]

Ellpie, the whole squad was for sale as we needed money.Davies would be foolish to turn down the increase in salary and the chance of PL football.Surely even the most rose tinted fan would accept he was not going to turn that down.

 

Of course he wasn't going to turn that down. But other clubs have said no to payers in similar situations if they haven't had adequate cover. We had already significantly reduced our wage bill, and indeed have been bringing other players into the club. It is all a question of priorities. Lowe has not understood where our weaknesses are. Davies was under contract to Saints and none can deny his worth to us.

[OldNick]

And he was also a cheap option for Rupert Lowe that enabled him to push Davies out of the door. ]

Killer is a massive player when he plays for us. You still are in denial when you say RL pushed Davies out of the door.If we could have saold 4 more players they would have gone whoever they were if the offer was right.

[dubai_phil]

Your drivel gets more pathetic by the hour.

 

He is a cripple because the way in which he would have chosen to lead his life has been crippled by a major injury.

 

What part of that dont you bloody understand ? I rated Killer as a massive player for us in 2002-2003, and I still think he could have a major impact if he can put his injury problems behind him, but I am sure he cannot.

 

And he was also a cheap option for Rupert Lowe that enabled him to push Davies out of the door. And just like the Killer/Fitz Hall situation in the relegation season, we are going to pay a huge price for that decision

 

You know I'd agree with you if you only added a few careful words. The trouble is I read the post and only want to ask what tonight's lottery winning numbers will be

 

He is a dangerously close to being a cripple because the way in which he would have chosen to lead his life has been crippled by a major injury.

 

Could we PLEASE wait until Monday evening when he flies back from Sweden before we make this assumption so we can give him the proper united farewell (or welcome back) he deserves

 

thx

[alpine_saint]

Killer is a massive player when he plays for us. You still are in denial when you say RL pushed Davies out of the door.If we could have saold 4 more players they would have gone whoever they were if the offer was right.

 

He was bloody awful against Blackpool.

 

Wonder why ?

 

Maybe this weeks revelation about his injury and missing todays game indicates that not all has been well in the realm of Denmark for longer than those of you in denial would admit...

[hypochondriac]

No I didn't say that.

 

This time last year our whole team was in disarray, and sure we conceded goals horribly (although scoring freely).

I am comparing our current defence with what we had at the end of last season. We also had Andrew Davies recuperating in the wings. Had Lowe refused to release Davies we would now be reasonably well provided. He gambled on Killer being fit for the season. He did not have to release Davies. He was not man enough to say no. He has not been able to replace him with a comparable force. But he has been bringing in lesser players which add to the wage bill. We need quality, not more 'might be ok's'. I am not dissing our youngsters. But they are not yet quite tough enough for 95 minutes of football twice a week. Blackpool proved that.

 

You said our defence would get us relegated. We stayed up last season so our defence must be worse. I dont think it is and we havent conceeded loads of goals. Our problem is clearly converting our chances as the stats show and as I have seen myself attending all but one game so far

[itchen]

Of course he wasn't going to turn that down. But other clubs have said no to payers in similar situations if they haven't had adequate cover. We had already significantly reduced our wage bill, and indeed have been bringing other players into the club. It is all a question of priorities. Lowe has not understood where our weaknesses are. Davies was under contract to Saints and none can deny his worth to us.

 

But, as has been pointed out on Alpine's gloomy thread about Killer's knee, we do have adequate cover and Davies is injured anyway. We all know our financial situation and we should all know by now that ANY player is for sale if the price is right. I'm disappointed that Davies has gone as I rated him quite highly (even though I think the stats show we did better when he was not playing - that's just an example of correlation, not causation). And, if Davies hadn't wanted to go, he could have said no.

[NickG]

Last season after 4 games we had 6 points, scored 6, conceded 8.

 

This season after 4 games we have 3 points, scored 3, conceded 5.

 

Personally, I think the most important stat is the points one.

 

Happy to help.

 

that was before GB left!

[eelpie]

Well Itchen and hypochondriac, we will find out this afternoon. I hope I am wrong.

[Mr X]

One win in five(after today) is relegation form. I know we have been unlucky in most games and played good stuff at times but that counts for nothing at the end of the day its results that count. The fact is you need to start as you mean to continue.

[alpine_saint]

One win in five(after today) is relegation form. I know we have been unlucky in most games and played good stuff at times but that counts for nothing at the end of the day its results that count. The fact is you need to start as you mean to continue.

 

Yep. Spot on.

[OldNick]

He was bloody awful against Blackpool.

 

Wonder why ?

 

Maybe this weeks revelation about his injury and missing todays game indicates that not all has been well in the realm of Denmark for longer than those of you in denial would admit...

Or perhaps I know people at the club and they have been telling me how things are going. Killer has been feeling his knee after each game as being sore but nothing sinister.The recent bit is new and could have happened at home for all we know.

He was poor compared to his usual standard against Blackpool but he was still feeling his way back after a long layoff. As with our on field results we should wait and see.If the consultant is worried it may well be the end but it may also only be precautionary.

[hypochondriac]

He was bloody awful against Blackpool.

 

Wonder why ?

 

Maybe this weeks revelation about his injury and missing todays game indicates that not all has been well in the realm of Denmark for longer than those of you in denial would admit...

 

Maybe. But then maybe not. No one really knows so it's pointless having a go at Lowe about it

[yorkie]

Somewhere back in the earlier pages someone asked me if I thought Lowe was doing a good job?

 

I'll answer with the following...

 

Mr Lowe is behind the scenes - he has nothing to do with what I watch, hence I do not have any opinion on how he doing.

 

You could ask why I was so anti Mr Lowe coming back - well my memory recalls the smug face telling the lunatic fringe he did what was best for the club. He may still be doing that now - but at least he is not telling me at every opportunity.

 

I'm holding my breath until January 2009.

Let's see what happens then. If it all goes quiet - then I speculate that players will be on the move. Watch out for the FA Cup ties - and who suddenly gets injured in training and misses the 3rd & 4th rounds in January.

 

I'm under no illusion his silence is welcome - but I'm waiting for the sting in the tail.

 

Personally I think Pearson could have also done well with the youngsters. I also firmly believe once Lowe came back and made his plans clear - Pearson was not interested in the job.

 

I go back to my first statement - and perhaps he is doing more behind the scenes. Maybe he is picking the team and telling the Manager who not to play. I'm not convinced he is that involved - but perhaps he is saying who can and can't come in. As for who goes in January - the money required to keep Southampton Leisure Holdings afloat will dictate who comes and goes.

 

I'm really hopeful that by then we will have attracted some investment of some kind that will keep this exciting squad together. However I have my doubts that anyone will want to invest with Lowe wanting to keep pulling the strings.

[itchen]

Well Itchen and hypochondriac, we will find out this afternoon. I hope I am wrong.

 

What will we find out? Davies was never going to be playing this afternoon. I'm fairly downbeat about our prospects this afternoon. I'm slightly more optimistic if Cork is playing than Killer after watching the Blackpool game as, frankly, Killer looked too slow. But let me make my position clear.

 

1) I think Killer is a tremendous player who has made a brave comeback. In the first few games he looked tremendous but had a poor game against Blackpool. I hope that his knee is not in serious trouble but I'm willing to concede it might be. My challenge to Alpine's point is that merely because somebody hasn't denied something doesn't mean it's true (in this cae bebng in agony).

 

2) I did not want to see Davies sold but no player at any Championship club is going to turn down a Premiership offer even if it's only Stoke. Once he knew about the interest from Stoke, how interested do people think he would be in playing for us?

 

3) I believe we have adequate cover at centre back but, should we need someone else, not having to pay the injured Davies's wagers frees up funds to bring in a loan player.

 

Anyway all this is stopping me from getting on with the essay I should be writing.

[alpine_saint]

Maybe. But then maybe not. No one really knows so it's pointless having a go at Lowe about it

 

Why not ? This situation has been entirely predictable, but has been allowed to occur because of blinkered penny-pinching.

 

Killer should have retired with his health more-or-less intact after his reconstructive surgery, and we would have had all our illusions about him coming back shattered once-and-for-all.

 

He could have played other roles at the club (perhaps he could being doing as good a job now as JP ?) which wouldnt have risked his health.

[NickG]

He was bloody awful against Blackpool.

 

Wonder why ?

 

Maybe this weeks revelation about his injury and missing todays game indicates that not all has been well in the realm of Denmark for longer than those of you in denial would admit...

 

you are the only deluded one in denial!!

 

Everyone else is saying his knee is still not right, he had a poor game against Blackpool, he can't be relied upon to be fit all season etc

 

You are the one saying he is lying about his condition and is a cripple!

 

JP has said he hopes he will play the midweek game -if that is the case he would not have missed any extra games as that would have been a rest game for him.

 

We don't know, so unless we want to call Svensson a liar why not just accept him at his word that he has not been in agony after games and the knee is a bit tight and due to the problems needs checking out?

[um pahars]

I also firmly believe once Lowe came back and made his plans clear - Pearson was not interested in the job.

 

Just one point on your post (alot of which I agree with).

 

After speaking to Lowe, Pearson was still very much interested in the job and went away convinced he would be returning once he came back from holiday. I have that from an impeccable source, but it's up to you whether you believe it or not.

 

It came as a major shock to him when it was announced that the "revolutionary coaching system" was being implemented, and he would be playing no further part.

 

Some on here have some good contacts and if you cast your mind back to the summer, it was around that time that we were getting two distinctly opposing views.

 

Those that had a route in to Lowe, Wilde (and even Corbett and Crouch who had got wind of Lowe's plans) were adamant that Lowe was lining up someone else to take over and so those stories surfaced.

 

At exactly the same time, those that had a route in to Pearson, some of the staff, and players were confident that Pearson would be returning as the boss (because Pearson was sure he would be back).

[alpine_saint]

you are the only deluded one in denial!!

 

Everyone else is saying his knee is still not right, he had a poor game against Blackpool, he can't be relied upon to be fit all season etc

 

You are the one saying he is lying about his condition and is a cripple!

 

JP has said he hopes he will play the midweek game -if that is the case he would not have missed any extra games as that would have been a rest game for him.

 

We don't know, so unless we want to call Svensson a liar why not just accept him at his word that he has not been in agony after games and the knee is a bit tight and due to the problems needs checking out?

 

Accusing me of calling Killer a liar is one-dimensional, childish and pathetic.

 

You have absolutely no subtlety. You see everything in black-and-white.

 

The bloke has fought tooth-and-nail to recover from an major injury, get match-fit again, and win another professional contract.

 

And he made it, but the knee is not right and is still giving him grief.

 

After all he has been through, it is hardly surprising that he is somewhat in denial about his latest set-back. That is hardly the same as lying, but it comes as no surprise to me that you dont see the difference.

 

Let's see if he appears mid-week. If he does, I am wrong. If he doesnt......

[NickG]

Accusing me of calling Killer a liar is one-dimensional, childish and pathetic.

 

You have absolutely no subtlety. You see everything in black-and-white.

 

The bloke has fought tooth-and-nail to recover from an major injury, get match-fit again, and win another professional contract.

 

And he made it, but the knee is not right and is still giving him grief.

 

After all he has been through, it is hardly surprising that he is somewhat in denial about his latest set-back. That is hardly the same as lying, but it comes as no surprise to me that you dont see the difference.

 

Let's see if he appears mid-week. If he does, I am wrong. If he doesnt......

 

and sadly true and accurate.

[NickG]

and adding to saying Svensson is a liar Alpine now adds, that due to his more in depth knowledge of the injury, Alpine says Svensson is in denial!!

 

You couldn't make it up (well alpine could!)

 

Thought he peaked when said he knew more about how team was playing than those who had seen them!

[alpine_saint]

and adding to saying Svensson is a liar Alpine now adds, that due to his more in depth knowledge of the injury, Alpine says Svensson is in denial!!

 

You couldn't make it up (well alpine could!)

 

Thought he peaked when said he knew more about how team was playing than those who had seen them!

 

Whatever, you are clearly trolling, so I wont bother responding anymore.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

I can’t believe this continuing Lowe adulation by the muppets on here. People have bought into the myth that he is a pair of safe hands financially, but the easiest thing to do to an ailing company is to come in a slash costs, the hard bit is to get people buying again. The laugh of the situation is that he is coming into a ‘save’ a failing business that he caused to fail in the first place.

 

Every so often football steps up a gear and those clubs he don’t respond get left behind, Lowe biggest gaff and it can’t be denied was that he didn’t push the team onwards when required. He is meant to be such a good business man but he didn’t see the increase in football revenue that was just around the corner and he didn’t set Southampton up to ensure we were a part of that. He is an average chancer having another go at our club.

 

But the muppets on here just lap up everything he does, I thought we were supporters of a football team but it seems more are concern with their support of the chairman.

 

What is he doing that’s so ‘revolutionary’, Lowe isn’t the first bloke to play with kids, Crystal Palarse did it last year to name one example.

 

 

Excellent post.

[70's Mike]

I can’t believe this continuing Lowe adulation by the muppets on here. People have bought into the myth that he is a pair of safe hands financially, but the easiest thing to do to an ailing company is to come in a slash costs, the hard bit is to get people buying again. The laugh of the situation is that he is coming into a ‘save’ a failing business that he caused to fail in the first place.

 

Every so often football steps up a gear and those clubs he don’t respond get left behind, Lowe biggest gaff and it can’t be denied was that he didn’t push the team onwards when required. He is meant to be such a good business man but he didn’t see the increase in football revenue that was just around the corner and he didn’t set Southampton up to ensure we were a part of that. He is an average chancer having another go at our club.

 

But the muppets on here just lap up everything he does, I thought we were supporters of a football team but it seems more are concern with their support of the chairman.

 

What is he doing that’s so ‘revolutionary’, Lowe isn’t the first bloke to play with kids, Crystal Palarse did it last year to name one example.

 

sums it up for me , only thing missing is the claim that we would have been world beaters if glenda had been appointed.

[John B]

Lowe Wilde etc may have done well in getting an environment for youngsters to flourish but the team lacks the ability to score goals.

 

This was apparent in the preseason friendlies as well as competive matches this season.

 

 

We are going to struggle until the team start winning , we may have a good run but the other teams in the division are probably physically stonger.

 

 

I am not sure the tactics we are employing is leading to this lack of goals as playing just one up at home is rather negative and puts a lot of pressure on the lone striker

Edited 14 September, 2008 by John B

[OldNick]

 

The bloke has fought tooth-and-nail to recover from an major injury, get match-fit again, and win another professional contract.

 

 

......

and are employing cripples who we can get cheap because of a fleeting sense of loyalty to the club because of the past, but as a result dont ask for much money because they simply want to get a game.

 

 

2 quotes from Alpine, the lower one from last night when he showed his total disrespect for the achievement and pains Killer went though.He all of a sudden has gained some respect in the one today .

[John B]

and are employing cripples who we can get cheap because of a fleeting sense of loyalty to the club because of the past, but as a result dont ask for much money because they simply want to get a game.

 

 

2 quotes from Alpine, the lower one from last night when he showed his total disrespect for the achievement and pains Killer went though.He all of a sudden has gained some respect in the one today .

 

Svensson is probably not doing it to help SFC he is doing it to help himself.

 

He is just another professional footballer (a pretty good one at that when in his prime)

 

I also dont think it is a good idea playing Svennson on the occasional basis he is either in the team or not he should prove himself in the Reserves before he plays another first team game

Edited 14 September, 2008 by John B

[NickG]

Accusing me of calling Killer a liar is one-dimensional, childish and pathetic.

 

You have absolutely no subtlety. You see everything in black-and-white.

 

The bloke has fought tooth-and-nail to recover from an major injury, get match-fit again, and win another professional contract.

 

And he made it, but the knee is not right and is still giving him grief.

 

After all he has been through, it is hardly surprising that he is somewhat in denial about his latest set-back. That is hardly the same as lying, but it comes as no surprise to me that you dont see the difference.

 

Let's see if he appears mid-week. If he does, I am wrong. If he doesnt......

 

hardly trolling -quoting more like!

 

as said earlier, if you don't want these ridiculous comments keep coming back to make you look silly think before you type! As someone else recommended to you, you could improve your communication skills by explaining that you mean..you think, you suspect or you are concerned etc -rather than stating your random thoughts as fact.

 

I think you are the only person who thinks you know more about Svensson condition than he does!

 

And the business plan..? Take it you meant you are concerned that it might have holes in it?

[alpine_saint]

hardly trolling -quoting more like!

 

as said earlier, if you don't want these ridiculous comments keep coming back to make you look silly think before you type! As someone else recommended to you, you could improve your communication skills by explaining that you mean..you think, you suspect or you are concerned etc -rather than stating your random thoughts as fact.

 

I think you are the only person who thinks you know more about Svensson condition than he does!

 

And the business plan..? Take it you meant you are concerned that it might have holes in it?

 

You have nothing to say, so resort to picking holes that dont exist in my posts. I explained the business plan issue in some detail to you, but yet you still bang on like I havent answered.

 

I dont agree with your simplistic chimp-like happy-clappy rose-tinted perspective about goings on at SFC. F**king deal with that like a man, FFS.

[dubai_phil]

Lowe Wilde etc may have done well in getting an environment for youngsters to flourish but the team lacks the ability to score goals.

 

This was apparent in the preseason friendlies as well as competive matches this season.

 

 

We are going to struggle until the team start winning , we may have a good run but the other teams in the division are probably physically stonger.

 

 

I am not sure the tactics we are employing is leading to this lack of goals as playing just one up at home is rather negative and puts a lot of pressure on the lone striker

 

Interesting point

 

And our formation under Hoddle was what exactly?

 

Was thinking back and we have played an awful lot of variations over the years, is 4-4-2 with the Wallaces out wide the same as 4-4-2 with Telfer & Marsden?

How different was Hoddle's 4-3-3 to our 4-2-1-2-1

 

I do agree that at the moment a clinical finisher is what we need, hopefully it will be SJ, it may (if his past record is anything to go by) be Peckhart, it could be DMG but I think he is still some way off clinical striker experience levels

 

Oh and BTW a large number of our first team are actually the same age or older than Ronaldo, Rooney and Walcott, obviously not (yet) in the same league of course, but we wouldn't moan about signing/playing kids if they suddenly decided to turn up and play for us....

[NickG]

You have nothing to say, so resort to picking holes that dont exist in my posts. I explained the business plan issue in some detail to you, but yet you still bang on like I havent answered.

 

I dont agree with your simplistic chimp-like happy-clappy rose-tinted perspective about goings on at SFC. F**king deal with that like a man, FFS.

 

why do you always just insult rather than correcting your errors? Calm down and think about what you type.

[offix]

I agree with what you're saying and I also don't think anyone is dissing our youngsters, merely pointing out it's a pretty big gamble to be relying on them to fill such an important position in the team.

 

It wasn't long ago that even Poortvliet was unsure about using them, and as he had arranged to send Lancashire out on loan to Orient!!!!

 

Correct! No-one is "dissing" them. But in my opinion, as hard as they try, as much as their hearts are in it, as pretty as their play may sometimes look, they still have no hope of going anywhere in this league. No doubt they have potential and plenty talent, but they are thrown into the deep way too early and without a safety net. I am actually very upset that this desperate move of playing a team of youngsters could ruin their careers forever by destroying their confidence.

[CB Fry]

Your drivel gets more pathetic by the hour.

 

He is a cripple because the way in which he would have chosen to lead his life has been crippled by a major injury.

 

What part of that dont you bloody understand ? I rated Killer as a massive player for us in 2002-2003, and I still think he could have a major impact if he can put his injury problems behind him, but I am sure he cannot.

 

And he was also a cheap option for Rupert Lowe that enabled him to push Davies out of the door. And just like the Killer/Fitz Hall situation in the relegation season, we are going to pay a huge price for that decision

 

Anyone who still goes on about Fitz Hall like his absense was the reason we got relegated clearly knows fu c k all about Saints, or football.

 

Oh, hang on, this is Alpine. He knows fu ck all about Saints, or football.

[NickG]

I was trying to help him in his poor posting style and giving him the benefit of the doubt -but think you probably addressed it better! lol

[Guest Hacienda]

Yep, the revolution is looking real good at the moment.

[alpine_saint]

Anyone who still goes on about Fitz Hall like his absense was the reason we got relegated clearly knows fu c k all about Saints, or football.

 

Oh, hang on, this is Alpine. He knows fu ck all about Saints, or football.

 

One of the reasons we got relegated is because we (no shiit, again ?) had no central defence because Lundekvam gave up when Killer got injured. Fitz Hall could have helped stabillise our central defence - Callum Davenport was a f**king useless lump of shiitt.

 

Seems I recall things better than you do..

[Rattlehead]

Lowe, please f*ck off. Ta.

[Guest Hacienda]

Yep, really, really good going Lowe.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Looks increasing like Lowe will be overseeing another relegation

[CB Fry]

One of the reasons we got relegated is because we (no shiit, again ?) had no central defence because Lundekvam gave up when Killer got injured. Fitz Hall could have helped stabillise our central defence - Callum Davenport was a f**king useless lump of shiitt.

 

Seems I recall things better than you do..

 

 

Well, I can remember which club Hall went on to, and can remember how his towering defensive ability stabilised their defence and I remember their stunning fight against relegation.

 

We did not "pay a huge price" for letting Fitz f u cking Hall go. We made a profit on a player who wasn't, and still isn't, Prem standard.

 

But who cares, we've just lost again, so I'll leave you to mop up your lap.