Genk Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Adam is proving he is a quality player with very impressive performances. What do people think will happen in the next couple of years? Obviously Pardew sat him down in the summer and persuaded him to stay. We are not a selling club anymore, but if a big offer comes in then do you think it would be accepted? Personally I think if his impressive performances continue, then he could move on in the Summer or Jan 2011. Obviously want him to stay but is it a matter of time?
Tac-tics Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I honestly believe Ad's will win his first England cap playing for us, in the Premier League.
Matthew Le God Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 He will only leave if he wants to go. At the moment he doesn't want to go as Pardew stated we had bids for him and he realises its better to play at Saints rather than go into a big teams reserves or go back on loan to the lower leagues. We don't need the cash and won't be forced by any shareholders or banks to sell so it is basically dependent on how quickly Saints progress as to whether Adam wants to stay or go.
ribbo Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 moneys one thing, but honestly where could he be playing better regular football as well as he is now and having more fun than he's having right now?
Saints foreva Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I don't reckon he will be here next season tbh.
farawaysaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Gone either January or the next window, he wants to play at a higher level and he's good enough or potentially good enough anyway to do so. So we'll just have to enjoy him while he's here
CanadaSaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 As soon as he moves up the England tree he'll encounter the temptation - the stories that players tell eachother about their wages, their superstar treatment by the club, life in the big city and so on. I really hope he stays and I think he'd be much better in the long run to do so, but you can never tell how players will react to those stories. I don't think we'll let him go easily but he's really starting to attract attention.
hypochondriac Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 He once said he'd play for pompey if they upped his wages so I don't think he would be particularly bothered about saints like the fans are.
St Chalet Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I don't know him and how true this is so feel free to shoot me down with fact but I used to hear stories of our younger Saints such as Surman, Crainie and Adam L getting bladdered out on the town quite a bit. As standards in football improve lifestyle will be a inreasing factor in how far a player can go. Has Pardew changed the culture does anyone know?
Secret Site Agent Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I predict his future being that He will meet a tall dark stranger, and will come into some money!!!!! In truth I don't think he is going anywhere in the short term but his talent and ambition may just strip ours, time wise, and he will leave.
Plonko Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I think that if he wants to play at a higher level he could do it by playing for us in the Championship next year.
Ewell Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 In pre season and even earlier this season many people on here wanted him shipped out as in there words 'he offers nothing for the team' 'only plays in the hole limiting our formation'. It is funny how a few goals and a winning team changes opinions. I remember one poster saying they would take 500k for him. Fickle, are we ****!
Huffton Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I think this window will be the mst interesting for many a year. In the past we've all dreaded the window as it meant our best prospects being sold to satisfy the shareholders dividend, and buy new train pictures for the boardroom. We are clearly no longer a 'selling club' so the only person who will be able to make a decision will be the players themselves. Hopefully with Pardews influence and the example set by other young guns leaving for more bench warming opportunities the only leavers we will see will be the deadwood.
SNSUN Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Put simply, if he goes in January or in he summer it will be too soon. He still has developing to do. We relied on him far too heavily last season when he wasn't ready for it, and yet this season, with a stronger team, he seems to have found his current level. He will get better, he will be Premiership quality, but not yet. If our aspirations match his, then there's no reason why he can't stay and be a Saints legend. Promotion in the next two seasons is out target - it should be his too. Based on recent years we've become all too used to seeing our best talent go, almost accustomed to it. I just hope that with the new set up we can keep the likes of Lallana, Morgan and James and move on up with them as the catalyst.
THEVMAN Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I don't know him and how true this is so feel free to shoot me down with fact but I used to hear stories of our younger Saints such as Surman, Crainie and Adam L getting bladdered out on the town quite a bit. As standards in football improve lifestyle will be a inreasing factor in how far a player can go. Has Pardew changed the culture does anyone know? Dont believe half these stories most of which are total bull and come from the mouths of jealous people who are out to ruin a few reputations.
lordswoodsaints Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I was talking about this yesterday and we came to the conclusion that if a player wants leave there isn't a lot you can do about it regardless of how rich you are. If lallana wants to better himself he won't be able to do it here in L1 with us,he will feel he needs to be playing against the best players in the world in the best league in the world,getting paid more than we can give him. IMO a good move for him would be to spurs.
Thedelldays Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I think we will have him for next season after that....who knows
Red and White Army Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I was talking about this yesterday and we came to the conclusion that if a player wants leave there isn't a lot you can do about it regardless of how rich you are. And that has been the case for at least the last fifteen years.
musesaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 AP persuaded him to stay this year so that he could play and not spend long periods warming a bench at a club in a higher league A lesson well learnt If we keep progressing and get back to the Prem within 3 years (IF!) I think he will stay One important point we need to remember is that we no longer HAVE to sell players to finance the club ....
SaintBobby Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I rate him highly, always have done. But I'd be surprised if he leaves in January and I think we might well keep him next season. The last few weeks have been the first time he's ever really put a run of form together, and I don't think he'd yet make the starting XI of any Premiership team. Add to that, we can probably be generous on his wages (certainly compared to most CCC teams).
musesaint Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Oh yes Forgot to say... Those muppets who seriously questioned Lallana's ability earlier this season need a reality check or glasses
Wes Tender Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 And that has been the case for at least the last fifteen years. But the big difference now is that we don't need to sell any player we want to keep. That means two things Firstly, we have ambitions and can afford to buy the players that can help us achieve those ambitions. A young player can be reasonably assured that if he stays, he might well be playing in the Premiership within 2/3/4 years and might enjoy being part of the Liebher/Cortese revolution instead of playing reserve football with a higher division club. Secondly, if a player did want away, we are in a position to screw his purchasers for loads of dosh, enough to replace him with somebody with potential. We are no longer the soft touch we were this past decade where other clubs knew that we would have to sell players to balance the books or to pay dividends to the shareholders.
niceandfriendly Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Oh yes Forgot to say... Those muppets who seriously questioned Lallana's ability earlier this season need a reality check or glasses I have to admit, last season I was not a Lallana fan at all. In fact I was quoted once coming out of SMS saying "Lallana is a complete waste of space". I am glad, very glad, to have been proved wrong. Last season however, I don't think he played particularly well at any stage, but this season he has performed fantastically (from what I saw of him before I left England).
Tac-tics Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 He once said he'd play for pompey if they upped his wages so I don't think he would be particularly bothered about saints like the fans are. 'eh?'
Mr X Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Adam is proving he is a quality player with very impressive performances. What do people think will happen in the next couple of years? Obviously Pardew sat him down in the summer and persuaded him to stay. We are not a selling club anymore, but if a big offer comes in then do you think it would be accepted? Personally I think if his impressive performances continue, then he could move on in the Summer or Jan 2011. Obviously want him to stay but is it a matter of time? No such thing as not being a selling club, every club sells at the right price
Weston Saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Dont believe half these stories most of which are total bull and come from the mouths of jealous people who are out to ruin a few reputations.Adams football of late is doing the talking. Forget the stories. I know for a fact that Surman did not go out drinking much and certainly not when a game was due within a few days.
Block 5 Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 AP covered this during the fans' forum. If Adam sticks with us for a while he has a very good chance of actually winning something and of gaining promotion. AP made the valid point that many players go through their whole careers without winning a medal or being in a side that gets promoted. Adam has more chance of experiencing real success by staying put for a while. Or he could go to Sunderland, Birmingham, Spuds etc and warm the bench and win feck all.
hypochondriac Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I have to admit, last season I was not a Lallana fan at all. In fact I was quoted once coming out of SMS saying "Lallana is a complete waste of space". I am glad, very glad, to have been proved wrong. Last season however, I don't think he played particularly well at any stage, but this season he has performed fantastically (from what I saw of him before I left England). I agree. It's annoying when people look at things in hindsight and then berate people for calling it as they saw it at the time. Clearly Adam is doing loads better than last year (and I wonder how much of that is the drop in quality of the opposition or the formation we play?) and long may it continue.
SamKimish Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I honestly believe Ad's will win his first England cap playing for us, in the Premier League. Worth sticking a couple of quid on surely?
Red and White Army Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 But the big difference now is that we don't need to sell any player we want to keep. That means two things Firstly, we have ambitions and can afford to buy the players that can help us achieve those ambitions. A young player can be reasonably assured that if he stays, he might well be playing in the Premiership within 2/3/4 years and might enjoy being part of the Liebher/Cortese revolution instead of playing reserve football with a higher division club. Secondly, if a player did want away, we are in a position to screw his purchasers for loads of dosh, enough to replace him with somebody with potential. We are no longer the soft touch we were this past decade where other clubs knew that we would have to sell players to balance the books or to pay dividends to the shareholders. It means ****. We will still sell our best players if a high enough offer comes in. You're incredibly naive if you think we will be able to keep want-away players now. We've hardly sold anyone "on the cheap" in the past decade anyway - Lowe extracted great prices for our best players. Walcott, Beattie, Jones, Kevin Davies, hell even Dean Richards.... we were rarely (if ever) punked by someone buying players from us.
benjii Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 IMO a good move for him would be to spurs. Did wonders for Bale. A good move to him would be to Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Notts Forest, Leicester... somewhere like that. A good "proper" club in the Championship (as opposed to some silly club like Reading, Barnsley, Blackpool). If he goes to the Prem he will just do what Surman does ie. not a lot. He needs another season or two in the Championship first IMO. I would imagine he will be here until the end of the season in any case.
John B Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 But the big difference now is that we don't need to sell any player we want to keep. That means two things Firstly, we have ambitions and can afford to buy the players that can help us achieve those ambitions. A young player can be reasonably assured that if he stays, he might well be playing in the Premiership within 2/3/4 years and might enjoy being part of the Liebher/Cortese revolution instead of playing reserve football with a higher division club. Secondly, if a player did want away, we are in a position to screw his purchasers for loads of dosh, enough to replace him with somebody with potential. We are no longer the soft touch we were this past decade where other clubs knew that we would have to sell players to balance the books or to pay dividends to the shareholders. I think despite ML and his billions players will still leave for higher pay at Premiership clubs I dont think much will change in the near future but once out of contract Lallana can leave for nothing. So he maybe sold at the end of the season
Hopkins Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 I don't know him and how true this is so feel free to shoot me down with fact but I used to hear stories of our younger Saints such as Surman, Crainie and Adam L getting bladdered out on the town quite a bit. As standards in football improve lifestyle will be a inreasing factor in how far a player can go. Yep. It happens. If you wanna catch Lallana and his mates out pop down B'mouth on a weekend or a Tuesday night. If you want to catch some of the younger lads, like Mellis, Doble, McLaggon etc then pop round the polygon area on a Tuesday night. The players have wednesday off and are aloud to go out and drink. It happens at every level in football not just ours. I hate it when people get on there high horse about players drinking. The majority of players do it. Just like the majority of young lads do it. It doesn't affect there performance on a Saturday so why care?
lordswoodsaints Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 And that has been the case for at least the last fifteen years. Tbf it has been the case for as long as I can remember and people older than me will probably say the same. As soon as steve Williams left (one of the youngest brightest talents at the time in this country) I knew that we would always struggle to keep our best players. Money talks and players like to listen.
alpine_saint Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 AP is going to have his work cut out for him keeping this team together in January in many directions. Lallana being just one of them.
Jonnyboy Posted 15 November, 2009 Posted 15 November, 2009 Always rated him since that first goal off the Bench at West Brom. What a boy!!! :-)
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