benjii Posted 18 November, 2009 Share Posted 18 November, 2009 Cheers depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 18 November, 2009 Share Posted 18 November, 2009 No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 I was really sad after the final whistle, then I realised I had a walnut whip in the fridge. I then discovered I was down the pub and didn't watch the match at all. I too am glad the french won as I couldn't bear another world cup surrounded by plastic paddy's. What exactly do ireland ever give to the football stage? And at least we wont be watching Big Jack and that puppet McCarthy on our tv's next summer. Sorry to any irish I have offended but stick to growing spuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Two foreign teams; who gives a ****. All these faux Irish loving English people make me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 The Irish, welsh, scots love it... Really love it when we get done over in a world cup. They love it more so when we get cheated or hard done by.. So excuse me if I am not bothered at all about the paddys being done this time as I have said, if keane or duff took their chances then henry could have started juggling the ball in the net and it would not have mattered. I agree, they all would have loved it if it was against england , why the angry little rants on here ? Hope those celtic fenian scum who sang through the rememberance day 2 minutes silence are crying into their guiness . **** em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 If exactly the same incident had happened in one of the other WC play offs, it would have got 2 lines in the national press and not even mentioned on here. And anyway, the biggest cheat of all is the fact that the games were seeded at such a late stage to try and ensure France got an easier passage through to the Finals. And another thing, what about Anelkas dive, blatent cheating, why should he not be banned for a million matches. He didn't get the decision, but he still cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 I liked Henry. I now think he is a total ****** and I hope he breaks his leg before the world cup. Twaaaaaat Tbf, Henry went up to the Ref and told him he'd handballed, and the Ref said, you're not the Referee. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8367588.stm Seriously makes me think whats the point? I cant bear cheating, its killing the game and sport in general I know its "part" of it now, before anyone starts, but its making think why bother with the game. Of course, it needn't be part of the game. Video technology would have spotted the handball, on examination, and would have brought the game back to the point where Henry handled it, and awarded a free-kick to Ireland. And rightly so. lol @ the Irish......2nd rate team anyway so probably good for the WC that France made it..for footballs sake. So fairness goes out of the window, does it..? You just want to see the same teams in place. Let's not rock the boat eh..? In fact, let's just select the teams that we would expect to get through to the Finals, and save on all that tedious playing, eh..? Second rate or not, Ireland have been denied their place in fooballing history. It makes not a jot of difference whether they are gutted or not; whether we support them or not [personally, I couldn't give a toss]; whether France have been going through a troubled time of it, for a few years, and so need a bit of a leg-up; or whether FIFA would prefer France to be in the Finals. One too many acts of favouritism, and the Beautiful Game wil be seen as a sham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Tbf, Henry went up to the Ref and told him he'd handballed, and the Ref said, you're not the Referee. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8367588.stm I'm not sure that's true. It's not very clear from the audio there, but the transcripts I've read say that it was Dunne who said 'you're not the referee', after the match. If Henry went up to the ref and said that, it would be visible on film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Irish poets are immortalising another betrayal. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/irish-poets-to-immortalise-world-cup-betrayal-200911192241/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Tbf, Henry went up to the Ref and told him he'd handballed, and the Ref said, you're not the Referee. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8367588.stm The audio has Henry admitting he cheated, and IMO saying he told Dunne he'd handballed, who said "You're not the referee." He obviously didn't tell the referee immediately after the goal was scored, as he was running off celebrating. It's easy to say "I handballed it" when the game is over and nothing is at stake. Therefore, Henry's a cheating bastard. However, the level of officiating was clearly arse. Referee and assistant both missed the handball and the player who got within a gnat's bollock of heading it, who was offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 i still find it funny as fook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff leopard Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 The day one if the local nations care one bit about England is the day I may care about Ireland Tis true....Irish, Welsh, Scots are very insular in their ways and would probably be celebrating in the streets if England had been knocked out in such circumstances. I think its to our credit that we can empathise with the home nations, but… and this isn't a leading question, and its probably impossible to answer, but... how much sympathy did we get from the home nations when maradonna 'knocked/punched' us out of the world cup? my guess is very little, but perhaps the Irish are re-evaluating that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Not wanting to be too holier than thou, but it's dangerous to start treating supporters and nations as a whole. Did 'the home nations' care? Did 'the home nations' offer sympathy? I expect some people from those nations did and some didn't. It's probably best to make up your own mind, and it's usually best to be nice regardless of what other people do (or you think they would do). So there. Having said that, Henry is a cheating ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Also, what's with Liam Brady... http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5703646,00.html "I wouldn't blame Thierry Henry for what went on." "I wouldn't go down the road of (calling it) cheating" Eh what? He cheated. On purpose. He is to blame. The officials might've had a shocker, but they didn't do the cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff leopard Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Not wanting to be too holier than thou, but it's dangerous to start treating supporters and nations as a whole. Did 'the home nations' care? Did 'the home nations' offer sympathy? I expect some people from those nations did and some didn't. that's such a south wonston thing to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 that's such a south wonston thing to say And where were they when the diggers came to Twyford Down? Scabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 the plucky, but ultimately not good enough, Paddy's have officially asked FIFA to replay the game. Bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 the plucky, but ultimately not good enough, Paddy's have officially asked FIFA to replay the game. Bless. FIFA, will you not replay the game? 'Ah, gowan, gowan, gowan, gowan, gowan' etc etc ad nauseum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 I was at the game, and what amazed me as I left Paris today was how embarrassed the french are about the whole thing. They are actually quite openly ashamed of Henry for what he did, which I have to be honest, is not the reaction I would have expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 the plucky, but ultimately not good enough, Paddy's have officially asked FIFA to replay the game. Bless. Boyle Sports bookmakers have joined them ! http://www.boylesports.com/index.asp "We Want a Replay - Sign Our Petition As Official Betting Partner of the Irish Soccer Team, we will present a petition to Monsieur Platini at FIFA's HQ and the French Embassy in Dublin so WE WANT YOUR NAME ON THAT LIST. No longer will the Irish team be happy to roll over to the superpowers of world football, let your voice be heard! " Absolutely pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 19 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Also, what's with Liam Brady... http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5703646,00.html "I wouldn't blame Thierry Henry for what went on." "I wouldn't go down the road of (calling it) cheating" Eh what? He cheated. On purpose. He is to blame. The officials might've had a shocker, but they didn't do the cheating. Gotta be the Arse connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 I really don't get some of you and your opinions. Oh, I don't feel sorry for the Irish, because they didn't feel sorry for us..! That's utter bollix and nothing to do with the point. IT was NOT right and fair. The wrong team has gone to the World Cup Finals. The positions could have been reversed, and say the Irish had been in the position of the French, and scored with a handball. And it would equally be wrong. Don't you see that..? I hear Alan Pardew has added his voice to the opinion and he wants video technology to give the final say to dodgy decisions. This pathetic atttitude that football authorities and some suppporters have who resist the change, have got to see the light. Football clubs can be unfairly relegated on these decisions, just as other clubs can be unfairly awarded a championship, or fail to get into a playoff scenario. There's too much at stake. And the passion will remain because we'll concentrate on the game and not the dodgy decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 It was discussed on here the other week that Markus had asked AP why our players surround the ref when decisions don't go their way, if we are honest with ourselves I don't think any of us really like it and only tolerate it as both sets of players do it in a vain attempt to gain an advantege. Anyone who says that they find winning by cheating acceptable is either fibbing or missing the point of 'sport'. When there is blatant cheating as with Thierry's double handball and subsequent winning of that massive match did warrant protestations, players should be able to trust the ref to make the correct judgement he can only really do that in todays game with the aid of technology imo. Just for the fairness I would like to see it at leat available on occasion. Technology is part of everything that we do nowadays, even people walking the fens or cruising the sedate canals of the Grand Union use Sat Nav. Why is football dragging it's heels? I also not that some are concerned that FIFA wanted France to qualify hence the seedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 (edited) I really don't get some of you and your opinions. Oh, I don't feel sorry for the Irish, because they didn't feel sorry for us..! That's utter bollix and nothing to do with the point. IT was NOT right and fair. The wrong team has gone to the World Cup Finals. The positions could have been reversed, and say the Irish had been in the position of the French, and scored with a handball. And it would equally be wrong. Don't you see that..? I hear Alan Pardew has added his voice to the opinion and he wants video technology to give the final say to dodgy decisions. This pathetic atttitude that football authorities and some suppporters have who resist the change, have got to see the light. Football clubs can be unfairly relegated on these decisions, just as other clubs can be unfairly awarded a championship, or fail to get into a playoff scenario. There's too much at stake. And the passion will remain because we'll concentrate on the game and not the dodgy decisions. it is all hypocricy.....where was your disgust when saga dived pathetically against yeovil when we could not buy a win...where was your disgust when trotman kicked the ball out of the southend keepers hands..? who was to say france would not have won..so you CANT say the wrong team has gone to the world cup...not at all.. yes the decision was bad and I hope something is done as I would LOVE to hear what platini has to say on this...he has everything to say about the english game.. do I have ANY sympothy towards Ireland..? do I ****.. been listening to this on the radio and quite a few paddys have been phoning in saying they are taken aback with the reaction from the english media....especially when many of them remembering how so many of them were dancing in the street in 86.......the response from the presenters was.."hurts, doesnt it".. im glad a team that has fans that has ACTIVELY hated england have had a taste of what we had that they cheered so hard about in the past Edited 19 November, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 (edited) it is all hypocricy.....where was your disgust when saga dived pathetically against yeovil when we could not buy a win...where was your disgust when trotman kicked the ball out of the southend keepers hands..? who was to say france would not have won..so you CANT say the wrong team has gone to the world cup...not at all.. yes the decision was bad and I hope something is done as I would LOVE to hear what platini has to say on this...he has everything to say about the english game.. You make a good point about Saga and Trotman, although I think the latter wasn't judged as deliberate. My disgust would have been there, and is there, but there is a time and place when disgust will be heard, and it only gets heard when scenarios are on a knife edge. I'm glad that you want to hear what Platini has to say. Hopefully it won't be platitudes [sorry, couldn't resist], and that things will change. Fairness must prevail, whether it is bad goals against Saints, for Saints, or for or against anyone else. As to the Irish, I couldn't give a toss either. But it's not about them. They just happened to be in a game where a major misjustice took place. It could have been any team. And BTW, I've been banging on about Video Technology in football for as long as the subject has been discussed about its introduction [about 20 years]. Edited 19 November, 2009 by St Landrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 Fair points. Using technology cannot be ignored. The replays were being watched with what? 15 seconds... Why can't a ref in the stands have two monitors, one on real time and the another on a 5-10 second delay which he can also control the action he is watching like you can with your sky+ box. How easy is that? I don't buy into the arguement about not doing this as you can't do it on a Sunday morning etc... Top flight football is worlds apart from Sunday league anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 19 November, 2009 Share Posted 19 November, 2009 I 100% agree with you TDD. Looks like we're actually of the same opinion, even though I thought we may be polls apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 Fair points. Using technology cannot be ignored. The replays were being watched with what? 15 seconds... Why can't a ref in the stands have two monitors, one on real time and the another on a 5-10 second delay which he can also control the action he is watching like you can with your sky+ box. How easy is that? I don't buy into the arguement about not doing this as you can't do it on a Sunday morning etc... Top flight football is worlds apart from Sunday league anyway This was discussed on talksport last night. One caller, rightly stated that the average goal celebration lasts 45 seconds, therefore, any contentious goal could be analysed via video replays long before the game restarted anyway. All it would take is the referee to speak to the fourth referee, who would be watching the game on the monitor, he'd verify that the goal stood, or should be ruled out and the game benefits. Quite why F.I.F.A are so against it is totally beyond belief, it stinks of some old gentlemans club who don't like change and are determined to be bloody minded, for the sake of being bloody minded, blithely unaware of how their actions are having a detrimental effect on the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 I see that prized c.u..nt Roy Keane has now piped up... what a pr1ck that bloke is. Quite rich coming from a manager whose team is rooted to the bottom of the Championship http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/8370327.stm There's a difference between being 'controversial' and genuinely 'speaking your mind' and being a complete pr1ck.... and I know which category he falls into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 Roy Keane is just saying that because he fell out with them. Nobody cares about his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 Is it ironic he's telling the ROI to 'get over it' when he's clearly not over something that happened 7 years ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 amusing when the blokes phone went off though..think the bloke was winding him up by letting it ring. on the part of technology...put that into football and the game will become more boring very quickly I feel, imo I feel that wrong decisons are part of the game and taking that out will take a part of the game away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 I like the idea of the goal line refs which have been introduced in the Europa league. It seems like a good way of improving decision making in penalty/ball crossing the line incidents without slowing the game down. In cases such as Henry where the cheating was not picked up on during the game, he should definitely receive some sort of ban retrospectively. So long as cheats can get away with it, they will keep doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 20 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 November, 2009 Is it ironic he's telling the ROI to 'get over it' when he's clearly not over something that happened 7 years ago.... Also quite easy for him to say, as for the most part of his career he played for a team that would never have that sort of incident happen against them in a million years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 20 November, 2009 Share Posted 20 November, 2009 Also quite easy for him to say, as for the most part of his career he played for a team that would never have that sort of incident happen against them in a million years Apart from that club being cruelly robbed of the FA Cup one year by a player who was a million miles offside. :smt040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 20 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 November, 2009 Apart from that club being cruelly robbed of the FA Cup one year by a player who was a million miles offside. :smt040[/quote Rideout was never offside when Everton beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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