alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1227264/THE-LIST-Footballs-greatest-penalty-kings--Nos-10-1.html Finally, the rest of the world knows what we knew already..
Danbert Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I'm confused is he supposed to be number 1 or number 6?
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Author Posted 13 November, 2009 Lampard is #6. MLT is #1. Dunno why they screwed up the numbering.
saintwarwick Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1227264/THE-LIST-Footballs-greatest-penalty-kings--Nos-10-1.html Finally, the rest of the world knows what we knew already.. I reckon the rest iof the world knew anyway even if the Mail has him down as number 1 (or 6?)
warsash saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I was there for the one he missed. Mark Crossley made a fairly easy save but always amazes me how Matty missed the rebound & smacked it against the bar.
Footballfan Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 but he then scored one of his best goals later in the same game
Wes Tender Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 This was as easy as it could be to pick the number one, indisputable. Anybody who didn't have him in that slot couldn't really be considered to be an expert.
Hatch Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Best penalty taker out of players we've heard of.
alpine_saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Author Posted 13 November, 2009 This was as easy as it could be to pick the number one, indisputable. Anybody who didn't have him in that slot couldn't really be considered to be an expert. Yeah, but you are neglecting the big-club/Brazil syndrome that afflicts every sports journalist working on national newspapers
Daren W Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 This was as easy as it could be to pick the number one, indisputable. Anybody who didn't have him in that slot couldn't really be considered to be an expert. You could also ask yourself who is the greatest free kick taker? I'll always remember that freekick against Wimbledon at the Dell where he flicked the ball up and volleyed it in... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM5GOqzkMDU Quite staggering.... How lucky were we to have him?
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I was there for the one he missed. Mark Crossley made a fairly easy save but always amazes me how Matty missed the rebound & smacked it against the bar. He made up for it in the 2nd half though
Foxstone Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Fantastic ! Some great penalty takers and indeed some great players in that top 10 - And our boy came out on top as always- Even above Zidane and Brehme! Following also Daren's post - I still understand Hans Segers bears a grudge at the audacity of that MLT free kick!
warsash saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 but he then scored one of his best goals later in the same game I forgot about that...was that the one where he scored from over his shoulder ?
Panda Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 David Peach had a pretty awesome penalty record too. Did he ever miss one? He really hit them hard and low, goalies had no chance.
St Landrew Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 2 [ex] Saints players in the top 3. Bit surprised James Beattie isn't in the list as, to my knowledge, he has never missed a penalty. Coached by MLT, of course.
Sherminator Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 You could also ask yourself who is the greatest free kick taker? I'll always remember that freekick against Wimbledon at the Dell where he flicked the ball up and volleyed it in... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM5GOqzkMDU Quite staggering.... How lucky were we to have him? They have a free kick list on the same website. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1168803/THE-LIST-The-10-free-kick-kings-history.html MLT is only number 11 in that. Beckham is first. The one I really disagree with in the free kick list is Roberto Carlos - more often than not he seemed to miss the stand behind the goal let alone the goal itself!
West End Saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 were on the p1ss the p1ss the p1ss for Matty Le Tiss Le Tiss Le Tiss Saviour of our famous football team coz he's the GREATEST PENALTY TAKER THAT THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN To the tune of Lily the pink top away day song
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Rightly at the top, looked at his top ten goals from DW's link, is it bias to think noone else would have a top ten of that quality, beating some of the best keepers of the time.
Wes Tender Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Yeah, but you are neglecting the big-club/Brazil syndrome that afflicts every sports journalist working on national newspapers And I reiterate; any sports journalist who would question that MLT was the best penalty taker of all time, could not consider themselves an expert. It would be akin to an art expert placing Jack Vetriano's "Singing Butler" above Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I was always impressed with Dodd's technique. I know he didn't take many but what was his success rate?
Our Claus Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 2 [ex] Saints players in the top 3. Bit surprised James Beattie isn't in the list as, to my knowledge, he has never missed a penalty. Coached by MLT, of course. And I reiterate; any sports journalist who would question that MLT was the best penalty taker of all time, could not consider themselves an expert. It would be akin to an art expert placing Jack Vetriano's "Singing Butler" above Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa If I had to choose someone to take an absolutely vital penalty it'd be Matt, no question. BUT, I honestly think that Beattie is the best penalty taker I've seen. His technique is awesome, and whereas Matt not only had the one miss, he also had many penalties which the keeper got a hand to, I don't think I've ever seen Beatts come close to missing one.
FairWeather Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 While I totally agree with Matt being at the top, it is a really dumb list. While great footballers, players like Bergkamp and Gerrard can't be considered some of the all-time best penalty takers, they have both missed several. It would be interesting just to see the same list ordered by success rate. And James Beattie should totally be in there.
Mattio Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I'm surprised Ali Dia isn't number one in this list Premierships Greatest Player Ever!... or not.
stardustonmyfeet Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 We know Matt le Tiss got 48 out of 49, but I'd be interested to see how others did. I can't find many stats on this subject. But while we're talking about MLT, I don't think many of us noticed this when he was on countdown in the summer, but it turns out he's pretty handy with the maths too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rteww8eyplQ
disintegration87 Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 david beckham lives in the shadow of mlt.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I'm surprised Ali Dia isn't number one in this list Premierships Greatest Player Ever!... or not. What is surprising is that he very nearly scored!
trousers Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I'm a little disappointed that MLT is top in a poll that wasn't rigged by us
Eastcowzer Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 What is surprising is that he very nearly scored! Surely David Peach had a better strike rate than MLT Not saying he did'nt but I cant remember him, (Peachy), missing many
Eastcowzer Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Surely David Peach had a better strike rate than MLT Not saying he did'nt but I cant remember him, (Peachy), missing many Oops sorry, wrong thread. I know your all so understanding though.
VectisSaint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 David Peach had a pretty awesome penalty record too. Did he ever miss one? He really hit them hard and low, goalies had no chance. As usual with these lists biased towards the modern generation. Glad someone remembered Peachey, for him not to even be in the Top 50 is a complete and utter joke.
VectisSaint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 And I reiterate; any sports journalist who would question that MLT was the best penalty taker of all time, could not consider themselves an expert. It would be akin to an art expert placing Jack Vetriano's "Singing Butler" above Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa Oh come on, if that Da Vinci bloke had been any good, Lisa would at least have been topless
Wes Tender Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Oh come on, if that Da Vinci bloke had been any good, Lisa would at least have been topless She was originally, but he had to paint clothes over it when her hubby Franceso took exception.
redkeith Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Peach had one penalty saved by Cooper of Ipswich, I think, in a game we lost. Nick Holmes had a shot come of the bar from 40 yards, that was so well struck it had Clive Thomas the ref shaking his head in disbelief .
Blandford saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I think Beattie missed one when he first joined Everton, but have to say that his technique is excellent - he really leathers the ball into the back of the net. Some players that they have got on their list have failed when they have been put under strong pressure, unlike Le Tiss, who has scored to keep us up - the biggest pressure (away v West Ham).
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Beattie never missed for us, neither did Pahars or Rasiak. When we had that mare against Watford last year, was that the first we had missed since Le Tiss v. Forest? Dont include the shoot-out at Derby.
Block 5 Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I'm sure I remember a ref applauding MLT when he hit a volley from the half way line straight from a keeper's goal kick. The keeper (can't remeber who...anyone help?) managed to stumble back and tip it over the bar. The ref tapped his hand against his leg a few times in recognition of the most amazing shot! If it had gone in it would have been the greatest goal ever!
Redondo Saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Yeah, but you are neglecting the big-club/Brazil syndrome that afflicts every sports journalist working on national newspapers How very true. Sadly, I think it's also the metality of England managers too. As MLT also once said, you would have thought Hoddle would have picked him for the world cup even if it was only for taking penalties.
AlfredKo Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Beattie never missed for us, neither did Pahars or Rasiak. When we had that mare against Watford last year, was that the first we had missed since Le Tiss v. Forest? Dont include the shoot-out at Derby. Rasiak did miss the penatly for us in FA cup in season 2007/08.
Stu Man Do Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Beattie never missed for us, neither did Pahars or Rasiak. When we had that mare against Watford last year, was that the first we had missed since Le Tiss v. Forest? Dont include the shoot-out at Derby. Euell missed verses Blackpool the year before im sure?
Dark Munster Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 My top 50 would be: 50 - 3. Anyone who has taken penalties for the German national team since 1976. 2. Peach 1. MLT
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Surely David Peach had a better strike rate than MLT Not saying he did'nt but I cant remember him, (Peachy), missing many Off the top of my head Peach missed at least 2 out of about 25 - nothing like as good as MLT.
Stud mark of doom Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Can't believe Shearer is on the list. The only time I can remember him taking one for us, away at Coventry I think, he missed. Never had much faith in him after that and I'm sure he missed a fair few in his later clubs. And where is Neil Ruddock? He may have only scored one out of three for us but the one was worth a place on the list on it's own.
dubai_phil Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Watched a re-run of our "Goals on Monday" show just now, MLT in jeans and a SHORTSLEEVED shirt (Tommac alert!) They did a piece on that article and showed the Crossley save ( but also the Newcastle goal) He seemed actually embarrassed by it all, suppose he still hasn't worked out that there's only two people ever watch McAffrey et al down here and one was working nights this week!
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 No 1 penalty taker and yet he couldn't kick the ball out of play when he had to. Makes you wonder why he missed one, or would that be a cynical thing to say?
saint_bert Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 No 1 penalty taker and yet he couldn't kick the ball out of play when he had to. Makes you wonder why he missed one, or would that be a cynical thing to say? Do shut up
dubai_phil Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 No 1 penalty taker and yet he couldn't kick the ball out of play when he had to. Makes you wonder why he missed one, or would that be a cynical thing to say? To quote a senior poster hehehe
dune Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 No 1 penalty taker and yet he couldn't kick the ball out of play when he had to. Makes you wonder why he missed one, or would that be a cynical thing to say? I didn't think it's be long until the forum weirdo ruined another thread.
St Will Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 No 1 penalty taker and yet he couldn't kick the ball out of play when he had to. Makes you wonder why he missed one, or would that be a cynical thing to say? :gib:
Singapore Saint Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 2 [ex] Saints players in the top 3. Bit surprised James Beattie isn't in the list as, to my knowledge, he has never missed a penalty. Coached by MLT, of course. Beattie talks about his excellent penalty record which he credits to MLT: http://www.singasaints.com/whydelilah_211009.html
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