Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 A PRISONER was attacked with boiling water after he ignored the two-minute silence to honour our war dead. The victim was one of eight Muslim inmates who carried on playing table tennis at Belmarsh, South East London. A non-Muslim prisoner objected and threw water over the man who was taken to hospital with scalding burns. A jail source said last night: "It may seem strange, but some prisoners have a great sense of national pride." © News International 2009 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2724598/Queen-leads-Armistice-Day-ceremony-for-World-War-1-veterans.html#ixzz0WdpiuWRE
Master Bates Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 tbf I wouldn't expect a Muslim to observe our 2 minute silence. So imo the prisoner was wrong.
Hatch Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 tbf I wouldn't expect a Muslim to observe our 2 minute silence. So imo the prisoner was wrong. Why, doesn't state his nationality.
Master Bates Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 tbf I wouldn't expect a Muslim to observe our 2 minute silence. So imo the prisoner was wrong. Saying that though, I guess the Muslim could have stopped playing table tennis and stepped out the room for 2 mins. Who knows who's right and who's wrong on this occasion, six of one half a dozen of the other?
norwaysaint Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 This just goes to show the sort of scum who think not observing a voluntary silence should be punished. Prison scum.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 tbf I wouldn't expect a Muslim to observe our 2 minute silence. So imo the prisoner was wrong. 800,000 Muslims fought with the Allies in WWII in the Indian Army. Over 3 million Muslims died in WWI. Why wouldn't they observe it?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 tbf I wouldn't expect a Muslim to observe our 2 minute silence. So imo the prisoner was wrong. Why, doesn't state his nationality. Surely it does? The victim was one of eight Muslim inmates who carried on playing table tennis at Belmarsh, South East London. Take another look: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2724598/Queen-leads-Armistice-Day-ceremony-for-World-War-1-veterans.html#ixzz0We6kMwRC It doesn't make what happened right! I wonder what may have happened if an English prisoner had carried on playing?
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 800,000 Muslims fought with the Allies in WWII in the Indian Army. Over 3 million Muslims died in WWI. Why wouldn't they observe it? Would that be known by or taught to Muslims in recent times ?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 (edited) 800,000 Muslims fought with the Allies in WWII in the Indian Army. Over 3 million Muslims died in WWI. Why wouldn't they observe it? I agree but each individual has a free will to observe customs in this country. He was plain stupid in using the silence if he wanted to make a point. I watched last night's game on the TV, during the silence (impeccably observed IMO) I noticed two silly girls chatting away. Even 'our own' don't all observe it! Edited 12 November, 2009 by EastleighSoulBoy
Master Bates Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 800,000 Muslims fought with the Allies in WWII in the Indian Army. Over 3 million Muslims died in WWI. Why wouldn't they observe it? Not even I knew that one.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Surely it does? It doesn't make what happened right! I wonder what may have happened if an English prisoner had carried on playing? [/color][/left] I still don't see confirmation of Nationality so will assume he is English
Hatch Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Surely it does? The victim was one of eight Muslim inmates who carried on playing table tennis at Belmarsh, South East London. Take another look: Was he from Muslimland???
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Would that be known by or taught to Muslims in recent times ? It is starting to be, as a reaction to indoctrination by radical Islamists. Not soon enough in my opinion. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Untold%22+story+of+WW2+stirs+Muslim+youth+pride-a01611917967 Slow and steady wins the race.
badgerx16 Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Why, doesn't state his nationality. Surely it does? The victim was one of eight Muslim inmates who carried on playing table tennis at Belmarsh, South East London. ........ It doesn't make what happened right! I wonder what may have happened if an English prisoner had carried on playing? Sorry ESB, Muslim is not a nationality; chances are the scalded bloke IS English.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Was he from Muslimland??? You're pedantically correct. Which I somehow guessed was the point you were making. Does his religion/creed/nationality/colour (or anything else which you may want to abstractly draw into the debate) make what happened to him right? I severely doubt it.
benjii Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 I am glad that someone who pours boiling water over someone else is in prison and has probably now extended their sentence. Good.
View From The Top Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Isn't Belmarsh the nick where the Islamic terrorists are locked up?
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Isn't Belmarsh the nick where the Islamic terrorists are locked up? It's the most secure prison in the UK and holds many different prisoners, not just politically risky ones. It is also a remand centre attached to Woolwich Crown Court and a local prison.
saint_mears Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 800,000 Muslims fought with the Allies in WWII in the Indian Army. Over 3 million Muslims died in WWI. Why wouldn't they observe it? alliances change as the taliban show us.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 alliances change as the taliban show us. That's not what I was getting at though. The fact that fellow Muslims fought and gave their lives in two World Wars, and numerous other conflicts should be reason enough to acknowledge the two-minutes silence.
JustMike Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 so by this measure then..all those that didnt observe the 2mins silence at 11am on the 11th (im one of them, was in the car talking to my kids) should have hot water thrown over them, also the odd idiot who made noises at football matches up and down the country should have the same? People see the Muslim part of that story and instantly judge
saint_bert Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 There were young adults at SMS last night laughing and joking during the silence last night.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 There were young adults at SMS last night laughing and joking during the silence last night. Then they should have been shown the error of their ways.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 November, 2009 Posted 12 November, 2009 Then they should have been shown the error of their ways. Agree, not with boiling water but a smack up the ear maybe. Justmike, perhaps you could explain why you do not believe the silence should be observed, if of course, that is what you believe or was it that you overlooked it or it was the only time you could speak with your kids, kinda think you missed an ideal opportunity to explain to your children what it would have been for
Saint in Paradise Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 People see the Muslim part of that story and instantly judge Alas this is true but don't forget that some Muslims see things about Christians and also react in a nasty way.
tpbury Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Whose better - violent convict who throws boiling water over another convict; or a n other law abiding citizen who doesn't remain silent for whatever reason. BTW, I normally do, but try to make sure I'm not in a crowd. I'm sure there's some years I've forgotten, and I wouldn't be entirely surprised if I've unwittingly blundered through someone else's silence on one occasion maybe.
Manuel Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 There were young adults at SMS last night laughing and joking during the silence last night. I saw that, but in their defence I think they were giggling because they had noticed themselves on the big screen. That must be annoying, the only time you've ever got to see yourself and you can't jump up and down, act like a spaz or or pull a moonie.
Master Bates Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Love it http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4738184.Two_arrested_after_poppy_collection_thefts/ What punishment should they get?
Hatch Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 Love it http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4738184.Two_arrested_after_poppy_collection_thefts/ What punishment should they get? same as these. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8357982.stm Some sort of public humiliation. Paraded naked though the streets while being pelted with fruit.
saint_bert Posted 13 November, 2009 Posted 13 November, 2009 I saw that, but in their defence I think they were giggling because they had noticed themselves on the big screen. That must be annoying, the only time you've ever got to see yourself and you can't jump up and down, act like a spaz or or pull a moonie. I dispair then, because these mongs where stood next to me and my friend. I politely told the to wind their neck in. Deffinetly not the people on the big screen
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