Thedelldays Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 At this time of year. A number Of Celtic fans feel the need to 'boo' during the minutes silence for remeberance Sunday. Filth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 Why do they 'boo'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 At this time of year. A number Of Celtic fans feel the need to 'boo' during the minutes silence for remeberance Sunday. Filth It was outside the ground apparently, by those staunchly anti-British who refused to enter until it had finished. Those inside were silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 Why should being 'anti-British' have anything to do with remembering the dead, surely many Scots died in the two world wars and in conflicts since? Disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 (edited) Why should being 'anti-British' have anything to do with remembering the dead, surely many Scots died in the two world wars and in conflicts since? Disgraceful. Celtic = Irish = Republican = IRA Supporting element. Very little to do with the Scots and more to do with Ulster. *I'm obviously using very general terms before anyone jumps on it. Edited 8 November, 2009 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 Why should being 'anti-British' have anything to do with remembering the dead, surely many Scots died in the two world wars and in conflicts since? Disgraceful. Yep, the whole th!ng grips my P00 in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 Why should being 'anti-British' have anything to do with remembering the dead, surely many Scots died in the two world wars and in conflicts since? Disgraceful. Indeed, and many thousands of Irish catholics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 At this time of year. A number Of Celtic fans feel the need to 'boo' during the minutes silence for remembrance Sunday. Filth As many of you know, I am fairly tolerant of most things but I'm afraid I have no time for these people. They should be prosecuted. Filth indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 8 November, 2009 Share Posted 8 November, 2009 What utter ****s to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 As many of you know, I am fairly tolerant of most things but I'm afraid I have no time for these people. They should be prosecuted. Filth indeed. Are you not some kind of lawyer/solicitor or something? What would these people be prosecuted with? I don't believe there is a law against making noise for a minute when asked not to. No one is compelled by law to maintain silence. They, clearly, should be compelled out of respect or decency, but not the law, surely? What would be a suitable punishment for someone making noise during a minutes silence? Would it only be people who boo or any sort of noise? What if they beeped the horn of their car? What if their phone went off? What if they muttered something? What about a burb? Surely a burp is accidental? A fart? How many consecutive burps must one make before it is deemed to be an act of defiance? How would you prove someone made a noise? What if they had a friend called Boo and he was about to get run over and they shouted out "Boo!"? What if there was a ventriloquist in the crowd? I don't think you can prosecute someone for this act of stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 What would be a suitable punishment for someone making noise during a minutes silence?.. A good slap. A good hard slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 Is it really that important? Sure some celtic fans are idiots but I imagine this will cause some stupid overreaction from someone like the daily mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 Might this be the answer? During WWII the IFS, although officially neutral, gave succour to the Nazi war effort. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090721054820AAlFhK5 "The Irish Free State was officially neutral during the War and many Irishmen from the IFS served in the British Army against the Nazis. The republican government in power in the IFS, which they called the Republic of Ireland from 1933, however being violently anti-British gave discrete political aid to Germany. When Hitler's death was announced De Valera attended at the German Embassy in Dublin and signed the book of condolence!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 Eamon De Valera was a pr*ck of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 Celtic = Irish = Republican = IRA Supporting element. Very little to do with the Scots and more to do with Ulster. *I'm obviously using very general terms before anyone jumps on it. Hmmm I guess it makes more sense if you bring the IRA into the equation, but by no means does it make alright. I couldn't care less about freedom of speech in a situation like this, they shouldn't be allowed to upset the remembrance of those who died and are continuing to die. I also agree with DSM they should be prosecuted with something, but I don't know what it would be. I understand what Wiltshire said about how it's not the law to respect the minute's silence but it is downright disrespectful and something should be done. As you might be able to tell I feel quite strongly about remembering those who died because it is important we don't forget their sacrifice. However; rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 I also agree with DSM they should be prosecuted with something, but I don't know what it would be. I understand what Wiltshire said about how it's not the law to respect the minute's silence but it is downright disrespectful and something should be done. Maybe the club could identify those responsible on CCTV like they do with troublemakers and then issue banning orders to them. Might make them think twice about doing it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2009 I wonder how many Irish died during WW1 wasn't the while of Ireland part of britian back then? Their dislike for britian should not stop them from remebering their own war dead. What am I on about. Celtic are a bloody scottih team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 You can't ban people for not respecting a minutes silence, whilst they might be idiots there is still freedom of speech in this country. I don't know or care why Celtic fans think they are Irish but the British Army has in the past invaded their country and killed lots of their people so you can understand them not wanting to remember them (not that remembrance is just about British people). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 As there is a law against inciting religious hatred and the perpetrators are arguably all Catholic, then there are grounds for a prosecution, in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 I think the minute's silence should be, and I'm pretty sure it is, voluntary. So to talk about punishing people who exercise their right (no matter how idiotic) not to join in is just stupid. It's a shame that these people possibly don't understand what the silence is actually for (thinking it's about British soldiers from British wars rather than all victims of all conflicts), it's possible they're just stupid. Neither is a punishable offence and neither should be. Punishing a group like that will just create a greater and more aggressive divide. Teaching them it's a time to think about people who fought and died for their beliefs too might have an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 (edited) You could put a case forward towards breach of the peace anc possible claims for incitment to riot. As In these ort of situations that could easily start a bit of a kick off. Also not just the Celtic Fnas what about the United ones as well. Also anyone watching the game on Sky Sports the PA guy kept the mic on and you could hear all sorts going on in the back ground then the camera cut to Ray wilkins where he was about to burst with laughter during the silence because of of this back ground noice (I beleive some one was blowing their noise over the tanoy). Fair play to the Chelsea fans for not breaking the silence to have a go. Edited 9 November, 2009 by JonnyLove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 I think the minute's silence should be, and I'm pretty sure it is, voluntary. So to talk about punishing people who exercise their right (no matter how idiotic) not to join in is just stupid. It's a shame that these people possibly don't understand what the silence is actually for (thinking it's about British soldiers from British wars rather than all victims of all conflicts), it's possible they're just stupid. Neither is a punishable offence and neither should be. Punishing a group like that will just create a greater and more aggressive divide. Teaching them it's a time to think about people who fought and died for their beliefs too might have an effect. I think you will probably find they do know what it's for but they just don't care and want to start something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 You could put a case forward towards breach of the peace anc possible claims for incitment to riot. As In these ort of situations that could easily start a bit of a kick off. Also not just the Celtic Fnas what about the United ones as well. Also anyone watching the game on Sky Sports the PA guy kept the mic on and you could hear all sorts going on in the back ground then the camera cut to Ray wilkins where he was about to burst with laughter during the silence because of of this back ground noice (I beleive some one was blowing their noise over the tanoy). Fair play to the Chelsea fans for not breaking the silence to have a go. Also Section(s) 4 and 5 of the Public Order Act, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 ....... but the British Army has in the past invaded their country and killed lots of their people . The scots did plenty of invading, raping, and pillaging of English towns as well. Take a lok at the history of Berwick or Carlisle. ( There were also my ancestors, the Border Reivers, who pillaged both sides ). If you look at the Jacobite risings in support of James II, a lot of the forces deployed on the crown side were Scottish covenanters and lowlanders. If you are referring to Culloden and the aftermath, a large part of those 'english' forces were also protestant scots looking for an excuse to kill off those clans who supported the Italian born, half Polish, Bonnie Prince Charlie's claim to the throne. The Glencoe 'massacre' was a strictly 'scots on scots' affair, between the Campbells and the MacDonalds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 The scots did plenty of invading, raping, and pillaging of English towns as well. Take a lok at the history of Berwick or Carlisle. ( There were also my ancestors, the Border Reivers, who pillaged both sides ). If you look at the Jacobite risings in support of James II, a lot of the forces deployed on the crown side were Scottish covenanters and lowlanders. If you are referring to Culloden and the aftermath, a large part of those 'english' forces were also protestant scots looking for an excuse to kill off those clans who supported the Italian born, half Polish, Bonnie Prince Charlie's claim to the throne. The Glencoe 'massacre' was a strictly 'scots on scots' affair, between the Campbells and the MacDonalds. I was referring to the Irish, for some reason Celtic fans think they are Irish, I think it's the green on the kit which confuses them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 I think you will probably find they do know what it's for but they just don't care and want to start something. Exactly. I witnessed that kind of thing at Celtic (and other teams eg Hibs) first hand many times when I lived up there. Republican extremists have no mainstream media platform at the moment, so are reduced to this. To be honest, few up there are bothered by it as it has been part of daily life for ages. The bombs have stopped and this is what remains, very much the lesser of the 2 evils. Rangers fans respect the silence once a year but a faction spend the rest of the season spouting vitriolic Orangeman stuff themselves (you can buy the tapes outsides the ground if you wish). There are 2 sides to this problem, and without sounding pious, unless you've lived in Glasgow for any length of time, and got to know people on both sides of the fence (pun intended), you'll only get a 'tip of the iceberg' understanding of it. It is inbred into families. However, a warning - keep them out of the EPL or it will start to manifest down here over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 However, a warning - keep them out of the EPL or it will start to manifest down here over time. Hear, hear. I've still never heard one decent reason why they should be allowed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 It's just petty Ulster-lite horsesh*t that, as always, completely misses the point of the occasion. Not worth paying much attention to. Still, that's what the "Old Firm" are there for I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 I was referring to the Irish, for some reason Celtic fans think they are Irish, I think it's the green on the kit which confuses them. Up until the 11th century, the 'Scots' mostly lived in Ireland, the 'Caledonians' in what we now call Scotland were mostly Picts. Isn't history confusing at times. Mind you, I think with Glasgow football fans it's generally 'any excuse for a ruck'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 Mind you, I think with Glasgow football fans it's generally 'any excuse for a ruck'. 99% of the football/sectarian related violence in Glasgow goes on between Monday-Friday in the early hours. Murders average about 10 per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 However, a warning - keep them out of the EPL or it will start to manifest down here over time. Hear, hear. I've still never heard one decent reason why they should be allowed in. Why do we have Welsh teams in OUR football leagues? It's wrong, plain and simple wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2009 (edited) there is an under current of hatred in some scottish people...the last time I went to Glasgow the acts of obvious racism or hatred towards the english is so apprent....it was disgusting.. Edited 9 November, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 there is an under current of hatred in some scotting people...the last time I went to Glasgow the acts of obviously racism or hatred towards the english is so apprent....it was disgusting.. Oh Aye, everything is our fault LOL. I kind of got used to it and mostly it was banter but after 10 years it did grate somewhat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 Might this be the answer? During WWII the IFS, although officially neutral, gave succour to the Nazi war effort. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090721054820AAlFhK5 "The Irish Free State was officially neutral during the War and many Irishmen from the IFS served in the British Army against the Nazis. The republican government in power in the IFS, which they called the Republic of Ireland from 1933, however being violently anti-British gave discrete political aid to Germany. When Hitler's death was announced De Valera attended at the German Embassy in Dublin and signed the book of condolence!" As well as discrete political aid,they gave more direct aid to Germany by allowing U-boats to refuel in the republic and collect food and provisions. I wonder how many Irish died during WW1 wasn't the while of Ireland part of britian back then?Their dislike for britian should not stop them from remebering their own war dead. On a documentary some years ago about Northern Ireland it was stated that 5,000 men from Ulster were killed on the first day of the Somme.After the Easter uprising in 1917 Ulstermen argued that in view of their sacrifice the London government could not "abandon" them. No doubt many Irish catholics fought and died during both wars,but the morons booing yesterday would not think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 9 November, 2009 Share Posted 9 November, 2009 scum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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