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My first impression of starting to read this thread is that saint boggy must be under 18 because anyone any older knows exactly why the animosity exists and its all been well covered in subsequent replies.

If you speak to saints fan's of my age (over 50 ) they will tell you that we referred to them as scum long before they came back with the scummer tag linked to the urban myth of strike breaking dock workers.

The problem now is if you tell enough people enough lies for long enough some people will believe it.Even the BBC in their build up to the televised cup tie a few year's ago referred to saints fans getting the scum tag because of strike breaking dock workers when as we know this is complete and utter fabrication.

The skate tag only came about because when they started calling us scummers back some bright spark at the ugly inside decided we may as well come up with a new derogatory term for them.

 

Us Eastleigh lads were calling them Skates from about 74/5 onwards. All because the DJ in The Crown used to do the Discos in the Navy Yard and around the town of Portsmyth. He told us that the locals called the matelots 'skates' so we adopted it.

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saintsweb forum users are morons, in general. grown adults paying a £5 for the right to share their moronic and irrelevent opinions with other grown men about nothing in particular.

 

saintsweb forum users who habitually hate and abuse other saintsweb forum users with whom they are obsessed with are TOTAL morons.

 

go out, get some perspective. get a life.

 

Top comedy trolling :D

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Scummer - eat football,sleep football,hate pompey!

where this hatred has come from i don't know but i can't stand the club,most of the fans & the sh*tehole of a city. seeing the divs in the horrible blue strip turns my stomach. i do have a bit of banter with skates at work but find they are usualy the ones who become abusive. a skate manager once called me "a f***ing scummer c**t" in front of customers just because i said his pfc tie had a dirty stain on it jus where the badge was ;)

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......I too have Poopey supporting friends......indeed they are probably what I would call best friends....and today I visited the Dark Side with them!

 

Shock horror....a Saint undercover.......(please be aware that there was no way I could have been at Orient......as there would have been no competition...obviously!..... the family has just gone away and said Skate mate (as he is affectionatley known) was able to get a ticket for me as there was, once again, lots of empty seats! and at late notice a free Sat.) .....so into "enemy" territory wearing a Saints top under my coat! Now I have not been down to Farton Park for a good few years and boy what a **** tip!......it just does not change! The artwork outside of the North Terrace has got to be seen to be believed...framed in barbed wire....a frickin' disgrace....also the home fans' hospitality pub (tent)....lol!...there is even an allotment for their "community" programme. I went because it was a freebie and I was curious to see how the locals were reacting to their predicament......unfortunately, Wigan just did not turn up!

 

However, if the Skates think they are on the up....well...we'll have to see...a long way to go and they will have to play better teams.....you see I hope they go down....along with a lot of others I want to see them fail as I do not like what they stand for.....BUT the Skate fans got behind there team.....and when they sang as one it was loud but not as loud as they like to think they are!......a Steward close to us was explaining that W*estwood had been allowed back into the stand with his drumkit and bugle and that some more vocal skates were being allowed into the Milton to help "boost" the atmosphere! To be fair it helped.....sat as a "neutral" who wanted Wigan to win was interesting as I really got to see the Skates close up......indeed there are a lot of strange 'uns down there! There are a few who, if they had known, would have given me a tough time....but as Skate mate would be on hand to "alleviate" any flash points I felt fairly safe..he can handle himself.....as I said an interesting day......!

 

Do I hate them?......no.......do I believe in good banter? you bet.....I mean deoderant was sprayed on in the shape of SFC on my chest this am....a sort of immunisation....a Saints shirt worn under my coat...more of a "I know something you Skates dont" scenario....and finally upon returning home a good scrub down with bleach.....I cannot hate....but I can and will wish upon them a curse of nothing but ill fortune as a club.....I want them to suffer in "footballing" terms........

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Do I hate them?......no.......do I believe in good banter? you bet.....I mean deoderant was sprayed on in the shape of SFC on my chest this am....a sort of immunisation....a Saints shirt worn under my coat...more of a "I know something you Skates dont" scenario....and finally upon returning home a good scrub down with bleach.....I cannot hate....but I can and will wish upon them a curse of nothing but ill fortune as a club.....I want them to suffer in "footballing" terms........

 

And that is exactly how it should be.

 

I've always fancied a trip to Krap notarf undercover, to see how the other half live. Know your enemy etc.

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WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY I POSTED ABOUT SAINTS?????? i originally posted about Pompey and their financial position ...i went on there as a favour to someone i know. i posted stuff about Pompey's predicament and got a gobfull of abuse back.........

 

So if you didn't post anything about Saints how come you were amazed at the way they felt about Southampton? I'm sure there are a lot of Poopey supporters who are posting about their financial position etc. etc. but don't get a load of verbal back. You sure you didn't say something like "Scummer posting in peace.." :)

 

Well, I suppose you got you 5 minutes of fame you were after. Hey ho.

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I love the banter and really want them to fail but not go bust as it would be boring. I don't think there is any place in football for the violence or threats and those who do think there is have their own problems and really are not that smart. I think we have less of a violence following than poopey and I am proud of that. I am far too old for man points, I like being known as a family club.

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I think we have less of a violence following than poopey and I am proud of that.

But when Saints and Portsmyth have clashed, Saints have always come out on top. Soton Common, Covent Garden, Fleming Park, Lords, Portchester Station, and of course the Joiners. Not that any of that is anything to be proud of. Peace, love and unity.

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But when Saints and Portsmyth have clashed, Saints have always come out on top. Soton Common, Covent Garden, Fleming Park, Lords, Portchester Station, and of course the Joiners. Not that any of that is anything to be proud of. Peace, love and unity.

 

Perhaps but on a weekly basis I think we are more of a family club but could be me living in my own little happy world!

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From my experience you can never have a football related chat with many portsmouth fans without it falling into the same old sh*te.

 

IMO they hate us with far much more passion than we hate them, and tbh yes they are c*nts most of the time.

 

Plus the fact that they have Westwood as an Uber-fan gives me far more reason for contempt.

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So if you didn't post anything about Saints how come you were amazed at the way they felt about Southampton? I'm sure there are a lot of Poopey supporters who are posting about their financial position etc. etc. but don't get a load of verbal back. You sure you didn't say something like "Scummer posting in peace.." :)

 

Well, I suppose you got you 5 minutes of fame you were after. Hey ho.

well, Mr 'jump to conclusions' , i got to know some of the Pompey fans on said forum through a Saints forum that THEY frequented, so there was no need for me to introduce myself as a scummer, coz they already knew it!.

i happened to post a sympathetic,reasoned, rational post about their financial situation (much like a couple of the Blue Few did when we were going through our troubles). I was just stunned at the ferosity of the response i got from THAT post and it just made me wonder if any of our fans felt THAT strongly about it and were THAT stupid to believe that it's ok to truly hate someone purely based on the fact of where they live (which, it appears ,some are.)

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For me it's not solely about the clubs, it's about a scum city who peoples tend not to know have a clue which ship their fathers served on but wait on the dockside in the hope that 'he or they' will return.

 

It is fair to say that they are such thick, low life imbeciles that I truely consider them to be a stain upon the South coast.

 

Apart from that I wish them well!!

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I hate Portsmouth football club with a passion. I can't explain why I am filled with so much hate for them. My non-Saints friends don't understand it. My Mum can't understand why I say I'll never live in a PO postcode. I can't stand them. I love the banter that goes on and do believe there is a line - but up to that line I will continue to hate that poxy excuse for a football club and their fickle fans.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. Always flick the V at the motorway sign too as I come off the M3!!

 

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Portsmyth News on Friday 30th April and Monday 3rd May 1976 was all about 'the Mighty Saints'

This uber hatred from the skates is a recent invention, and is consistent with most of their ******.

 

What else would you expect from the portsmouth news? A hate-filled rant about the scummers? Thats like suggesting the daily echo would run a "rejoice, rejoice" front page every time the skates get hammered. I'd be more interested in what the skate fans themselves were saying, and I'll bet it wasnt warm and congratulatory.

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I never understand this city. We are currently engaged in conflict in the Middle East, battling against the Taliban. It's a controversial occupation, but the soldiers who come from Southampton and elsewhere who battle for the freedoms of the innocent, in my opinion deserve our fullest support. What I don't understand is the indifference we show in this city to the terror reeked by those 25 miles East of here. They wear blue, their 'city' is certainly inferior to ours, they sing disparaging songs, swear, and here's the worst part, geographically they are really quite close. If for no other reason than civic pride, they should be overcome.

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football/sports fans are morons, in general. paying a huge fortune to applaud grown men running around chasing a ball.

 

sports fans who habitually hate other sports fans for the team they choose to support are total morons.

 

go out, get some perspective. get a life.

 

I did, I went to Leyton yesterday and had a great time thanks !

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I never understand this city. We are currently engaged in conflict in the Middle East, battling against the Taliban. It's a controversial occupation, but the soldiers who come from Southampton and elsewhere who battle for the freedoms of the innocent, in my opinion deserve our fullest support. What I don't understand is the indifference we show in this city to the terror reeked by those 25 miles East of here. They wear blue, their 'city' is certainly inferior to ours, they sing disparaging songs, swear, and here's the worst part, geographically they are really quite close. If for no other reason than civic pride, they should be overcome.

are you suggesting a seige??? hhmmmm, it's an idea i suppose. ;)

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The site in question if the same has shown a remarkable ability to abuse anyone from our side of the fence. playuppompey.net seems to have been put together for the sole purpose of slagging of Saints supporters and friends. That seems their main aim in life. Reasoned chat just doesn't seem possible.

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Portsmyth News on Friday 30th April and Monday 3rd May 1976 was all about 'the Mighty Saints'

This uber hatred from the skates is a recent invention, and is consistent with most of their ******.

 

Back in those days, the News covered Saints, and The Echo covered Pompey. I would imagine that 1976 News report was done by no less a person than Mike Neasom, perhaps the finest regional newspaper reporter of his generation.

 

He later became the News' hugely respected P****y reporter, but he always fondly recalled the days he covered Saints in the 1960s and 70s.

 

Likewise, the players from those days (Paine, Channon, Davies, Gabriel, et al), along with Ted and Brian Truscott, always respected and enjoyed the sort of professional relationship verging on friendship with Mike that reporters had with the club they covered.

 

Proof of that was in the good turn-out of past Saints players and officials at Mike's funeral a few years back.

 

The reason the Echo and News covered each others' clubs was economic. They were both after readers and circulation in the border areas and there wasn't the sort of short-sighted, blinkered blind hatred that exists now.

 

Back then, newspapers buyers bought what they considered to be the best product and hard it may be to believe now, but there were some who considered the News' coverage of Saints to be better than the Echo!

 

Of course, there was always the sheer delight of reading a comprehensive report, bordering on pee-pee taking that came with a Pompey defeat, and I can remember some of the hilarious stuff John May (a Saints fan) used to write when he covered them for the Echo.

 

But both papers considered journalism to be paramount and both had editors who realised that there were good stories to be had from the other camp.

 

The sad thing is that now, morons on both sides would not tolerate coverage of the other club in 'their' paper.

 

I think that's called progress.

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I have to agree. When younger and serving in armed forces i used to go to both venues dependant on who was at home. This I did with 3 others who were football supporters. " blue and 2 red. We never used to have the idiotic squabbles as there are now. Rivalry yes but nothing like now.

Media pushed to sell papers etc IMHO.

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You forgot Burnley and Stoke.

 

I would say that both of those are bigger than the teams I listed for the simple fact that they are pretty well supported, but yes, compared to the likes of Forest, Leeds, Sheff Weds, Norwich and Saints they are minnows.

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When me and my brother were little and getting in football we both decided to support Man Utd, as youngsters sometimes do. Our Dad, on discovering this, wasn't happy and said we should support a team closer to home. I said "ok, I'll support saints" and my brother said "well in that case, I'll support Portsmouth". At the time it was no big thing, but as we got to secondary school it started to be more of an issue and a rivalry began to develop. This rivalry got worse and worse and we eventually ended up hating each other and arguig and fighting all the time. Things became really strained at home and it made my mum and dad's life miserable and in the end it was too much for them and they divorced. I lived with my dad and my brother lived with my mum. I blamed him for the split and he blamed me and one night, after a few beers, I saw him in town. Anger got the better of my and I charged at him shouting "You skate c***" and beat him to within an inch of his life. He was hospitalised and now, years later, still cannot walk or talk properly. My dad threw me out of the house and I was homeless for a while. Now some people may say that this is a case of fan rivalry going too far, but I say no it's not and if I ever see that spazzo brother of mine again I will kill him.

 

That post did make me genuinely laugh out loud.

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I'm rather disappointed there is even a debate between Saints fans on this subject.

 

It is born, bred and in your blood (or mine at least) that they are the biggest bunch of cxnts on this planet, laugh at their failures, hate their fans and anything related to their club and don't have "skate mates" as those 2 words make no sense together.

 

I hate the club, city, ground and mostly their supporters more than anything with all my heart. I get nearly as much joy at them losing as us winning. And rejoice at the Joiners result!

 

Ffs fellow supporters, how can you not detest that vile scum?

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When me and my brother were little and getting in football we both decided to support Man Utd, as youngsters sometimes do. Our Dad, on discovering this, wasn't happy and said we should support a team closer to home. I said "ok, I'll support saints" and my brother said "well in that case, I'll support Portsmouth". At the time it was no big thing, but as we got to secondary school it started to be more of an issue and a rivalry began to develop. This rivalry got worse and worse and we eventually ended up hating each other and arguig and fighting all the time. Things became really strained at home and it made my mum and dad's life miserable and in the end it was too much for them and they divorced. I lived with my dad and my brother lived with my mum. I blamed him for the split and he blamed me and one night, after a few beers, I saw him in town. Anger got the better of my and I charged at him shouting "You skate c***" and beat him to within an inch of his life. He was hospitalised and now, years later, still cannot walk or talk properly. My dad threw me out of the house and I was homeless for a while. Now some people may say that this is a case of fan rivalry going too far, but I say no it's not and if I ever see that spazzo brother of mine again I will kill him.

 

Comic genius. You didn't see Blood Brothers by any chance? ;) I'm sure that Willy Russell could easily write a play along similar lines to the story you have written, but the critics would say that it was too similar to Blood Brothers.

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Titchfield is where purple starts to go blue. Locks Heath/Park Gate

is more a shade of pink. Warsash and Sarisbury Green are redder still. But by the time you get to The Avenue in Fareham it's pretty much royal blue all the way.

 

 

I would say that Warsash / Park Gate is deffo returning to the red side of Hampshire. A couple of years back, P*mpey shirts being worn around the area were 50/50 with Saints BUT I very rarely see skate shirts these days, with most kids I see wearing the red & white.

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I went to school in Portchester in the early 80's & deciding to support Saints seemed a stupid idea at the time :) Plently of rucks at school (Monday after Steve Moran's winner in the FA Cup was a bit hairy !!) with not many 'friends' to back me up. But after all that I don't detest them.....yeah i hope thet lose, i hope they get relegated.

 

Over the years some of my best mates I have made are P*mpey fans .... i play football with loads of them every Saturday. For years I had bragging rights over them but obviously roles have been reversed & I get loads of stick these days :D. But at the end of the day it's just good fun banter.

 

IMO most of them are a decent bunch....yeah, they hope we lose each week but none of them I have met wanted us to go to the wall in the summer.

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Living in Nottingham I know how much it really ****es off the County fans that they hate Forest but the Forest fans almost always wish County well. I have desperately tried to do the same with the Skates but I'm afraid that I just can't.

 

I grew up in Skatesmouth and when I was younger watched both teams at home (although I was always a Saints fan), but as I got older and experienced more of the hated from the Skates I grew to dislike them more and more. Now I really wish failure on them with an unnatural passion and can't wait for them to start next season in the Championship on -10 points, but I still wouldn't say I hate their fans and it would certainly never involve violence (but maybe that's just because I'm too old).

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I would say that Warsash / Park Gate is deffo returning to the red side of Hampshire. A couple of years back, P*mpey shirts being worn around the area were 50/50 with Saints BUT would i very rarely see skate shirts these days, with most kids I see wearing the red & white.

 

I would agree with that and I've noticed not so many PFC private car number plates.

On my local green playing area a lot of P*mpey shirts seem to have been traded in for Arsenal, Chelski and Manure, just like before the rapid rise (and hopefully fall).

Would love to see the red and white stripes on local lads playing footie again.:p

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Oh dear, only 3 seasons out of the prem and you already have the symptoms of lower league syndrome, The once model family club SFC is fast getting the reputation as a footy venue to avoid, Half full of supporters who are bitter and jealous of there friendly neighbour, (now the big cheeses in Hants) Plus the growing problem of a moronic yooooooof following who fink there ard,

A roll reverse! PFC are now the family club.;)

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Oh dear, only 3 seasons out of the prem and you already have the symptoms of lower league syndrome, The once model family club SFC is fast getting the reputation as a footy venue to avoid, Half full of supporters who are bitter and jealous of there friendly neighbour, (now the big cheeses in Hants) Plus the growing problem of a moronic yooooooof following who fink there ard,

A roll reverse! PFC are now the family club.;)

Probably all from one family, too.

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I'm rather disappointed there is even a debate between Saints fans on this subject.

 

It is born, bred and in your blood (or mine at least) that they are the biggest bunch of cxnts on this planet, laugh at their failures, hate their fans and anything related to their club and don't have "skate mates" as those 2 words make no sense together.

 

I hate the club, city, ground and mostly their supporters more than anything with all my heart. I get nearly as much joy at them losing as us winning. And rejoice at the Joiners result!

 

Ffs fellow supporters, how can you not detest that vile scum?

 

I'm with you all the way my friend. I'm not interested in being resonable or grown up as far as the skates are concerned. I won't even have a blue toothbrush FFS! The island that they infest should be set adrift from the British Isles. Supporting Saints goes hand in hand with detesting them.

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I'm in my 4th decade of supporting Saints and I hate Pompey, cant forget all the times in the seventies when their fans would turn up at the dell to support the London clubs or any other well supported teams. They didnt have a hope in hell of playing us so would support the opposition. complete tw*ts the lot of them....They would also brag about how well supported they are, but i notice that they cant even fill that cess pit they call Fratton Park.

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I always hated Pompey been to fratton a few times with saints over the years. Must admit their city image seems to have overtaken us in recent years.

I still play masters football here and we have a couple of pompey lads in the team. Don't know if its being so far away but I have a good laugh with them and we take the Pi** out of each other. Still desperately want them to go down though !

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