bigtonesfc Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 http://www.northstandchat.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Sad, people who run these forums deserve not to be subject to such unwarranted attentions. Lessons could be learned from thier misfortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Which shows how right people are on here to take note of anything which might appear racist, fair play it's invariably dealt with when it occurs very swiftly. A warning to all footie forums I suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I would imagine stirring up racial hatred is an entirely different kettle of fish. I understand the worry though. I wouldn't want to get into legal turmoil because of some tw*t preaching boll*cks !! However i don't think i have ever heard anyone on here, 'stirring up racial hatred ?' Some peoples views get a bit strong etc but nobody ever insights anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Pfffff... And to think we get accused of over-zealous moderating on political type threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Yes, it can be a fine line between something which might not be intentionally racist but could be construed as such. I agree with you Smirking Saint that I've never been aware of anyone stirring up racial hated on here. Equally Ponty and the Mods need to err on the side of caution so any accusation of being "over zealous" is really unfair since it is their necks primarily on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 It's a shame We will end up in a world where nothing can be discussed Somebody is always offended by something, life will become very boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Pfffff... And to think we get accused of over-zealous moderating on political type threads. Some pubs have signs up that state "No Politics and No Religion". The simple answer is to adopt the same policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 It's a shame We will end up in a world where nothing can be discussed Somebody is always offended by something, life will become very boring We're not far from that point already to be honest ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 This does demonstrate just how well run our site is imo. There was a big dip when the subs were introduced, but i sense that it's found a decent level now and the fun is coming back. Yes there are big bust ups, but I think that we are starting to respect each other and realise that the fact that we all type from the soullless keyboards does not mean that WE are soulless. I know of so many heart rending stories of others on here and they make one realise that we are not just a load of strangers, we are a load of real people, leading real lives wit real feelings. The respect is creeping back and I for one like it here. Long live The Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I'm curious about what it was exactly that prompted the threat of legal action. Did it come out of a discussion about Nick Griffin on Question Time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 This does demonstrate just how well run our site is imo. There was a big dip when the subs were introduced, but i sense that it's found a decent level now and the fun is coming back. Yes there are big bust ups, but I think that we are starting to respect each other and realise that the fact that we all type from the soullless keyboards does not mean that WE are soulless. I know of so many heart rending stories of others on here and they make one realise that we are not just a load of strangers, we are a load of real people, leading real lives wit real feelings. The respect is creeping back and I for one like it here. Long live The Forum. Spot on, without feelings we are nothing and the vast majority on here realise and respect that. We are all of course a very diverse bunch brought together by our love for Saints but beyond that many of us will not have a lot in common. People will do well to remember when posting that they are having a discussion with real people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I would ask the OP how he came across this information, do members of certain groups get notified of when an authority has acted in a manner they consider to be over protective of racial issues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 http://www.northstandchat.com/ Given your post history, it's a warning you would do very well to heed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I would ask the OP how he came across this information, do members of certain groups get notified of when an authority has acted in a manner they consider to be over protective of racial issues ? No,i read about on another forum,possibly Orients!So sorry,no alterior motives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Given your post history, it's a warning you would do very well to heed. Did the police tell you to infract me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Did the police tell you to infract me? What?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I got infractions for trying to put my side of the other story i cant mention.The Brighton forum was warned by the police for racial or whatever reason,so was what i was writing about as bad?If so surely the police would have given this forum a warning also!Or was it just that it didnt suit certain people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I got infractions for trying to put my side of the other story i cant mention.The Brighton forum was warned by the police for racial or whatever reason,so was what i was writing about as bad?If so surely the police would have given this forum a warning also!Or was it just that it didnt suit certain people? I think you're being a touch paranoid. The mods locked the other thread you started for perfectly good reasons, and could hardly be accused - after all the time that thread ran - of being censorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Some pubs have signs up that state "No Politics and No Religion". The simple answer is to adopt the same policy. And that unfortunately is when the world as we knew it will end. The very first thing that I noticed when I came down here 16 years ago, all of the "comfort zones went" - couldn't go to the pub with mates and talk about - The weather (it's the same for 350 days a year, Politics - we don't have any, Religion - you're drinking beer in a Muslim country that's enough and then there was Sex, luckily Burkhas aren't that fashionable so we always had that to talk about - specially with about 300 blokes to every women here in those days) Thing is it is part of our heritage. Take it away it won't stop there peeps... Uh hello - IT'S A PUB SERVING ALCOHOL How many "conservative, easily offended other religions will be in the building, let alone trying to overhear a conversation? As for politics being a no go area, when did Stalin get re-incarnated? But the point about freedom of speech and offence is a very fair one and very difficult, the Mods do a good job, which is why Pancake should infract himself. But he still should, for continuity's sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I think you're being a touch paranoid. The mods locked the other thread you started for perfectly good reasons, and could hardly be accused - after all the time that thread ran - of being censorious. THAT thread did run and run and if anything was allowed to go on too long since by the time it was closed I'd say everything that needed to be said had been said and in many cases more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 http://www.northstandchat.com/ I just got their thread list? What am I meant to be looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I just got their thread list? What am I meant to be looking at? Think it has been reopened, was closed earlier. I believe that is what the original link showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 They do post a list of those banned and the reasons why : http://www.northstandchat.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47 Edit: Some pretty unsavoury characters on there it has to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I just got their thread list? What am I meant to be looking at? It was shut for a bit after the fella running it got told off by the police for comments made by poster/s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 They do post a list of those banned and the reasons why : http://www.northstandchat.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47 Edit: Some pretty unsavoury characters on there it has to be said. I like the idea, though, of publishing the reasons for infractions and bans. This one is good: 'Permanently banned for persistent, worthless posting.' Now that wouldn't apply to ANYONE on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I like the idea, though, of publishing the reasons for infractions and bans. Yes, me too. Name and shame I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I like the idea, though, of publishing the reasons for infractions and bans. This one is good: 'Permanently banned for persistent, worthless posting.' Now that wouldn't apply to ANYONE on here... Lol, no of course not ! If that was a reason on here for a ban then it might get quite lonely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_carlin Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Given your post history, it's a warning you would do very well to heed. Nothing wrong with his post history unless of course you dont like his stance. The brighton forum closure seems to be a massive storm in a teacup and a poster on their actually grassed the forum up ! This forum user has connections to their local newspaper. Apparently some repeat offenders just keep on joining the forum after being banned. On the forum like everywhere it seems was a debate about the BNP on Question time. Things got heated and language which you cannot use on here was being posted. The terms P and C etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Nothing wrong with his post history unless of course you dont like his stance. Well, there is a law against inciting racial hatred and I guess the mods may have felt that suggesting members of the public to join the EDL may have been seen as a little inflammatory. They did well to delete the thread and you'd do well to get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Well, there is a law against inciting racial hatred and I guess the mods may have felt that suggesting members of the public to join the EDL may have been seen as a little inflammatory. They did well to delete the thread and you'd do well to get over it. I will ask a question but will probably get done again by the powers that be on here!How is a group of mixed race people racist because they oppose those who promote the murder of British people?We are not BNP,or National Front,or even an Adolph Hitler reincarnation as some on here would have you believe.........Thats it mods ,wont say anymore about this subject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 It was shut for a bit after the fella running it got told off by the police for comments made by poster/s! Probably too many of them posting sarcastic/pointless remarks. It's a very serious issue on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Yes, me too. Name and shame I say. Please sign your full name below, thank you Christine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I will ask a question but will probably get done again by the powers that be on here!How is a group of mixed race people racist because they oppose those who promote the murder of British people?We are not BNP,or National Front,or even an Adolph Hitler reincarnation as some on here would have you believe.........Thats it mods ,wont say anymore about this subject! Out of interest, would you consider mixed race to include those born of Hampshire and Wiltshire people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 29 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Out of interest, would you consider mixed race to include those born of Hampshire and Wiltshire people? Refer you back too last sentence of post 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Probably too many of them posting sarcastic/pointless remarks. It's a very serious issue on the internet. Very serious And woe betide anyone who should dare suggest another poster is anything other than sweetness and light, as you will fall foul of the other very serious issue on the innernetz of insulting another poster :shock: One day you too may have Boj going back through a week of your posts to find an example of this heinous crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I like the idea, though, of publishing the reasons for infractions and bans. Me too. Will never happen though as the inconsistencies of certain members of the admin team will be found out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Very serious And woe betide anyone who should dare suggest another poster is anything other than sweetness and light, as you will fall foul of the other very serious issue on the innernetz of insulting another poster :shock: One day you too may have Boj going back through a week of your posts to find an example of this heinous crime. Me too. Will never happen though as the inconsistencies of certain members of the admin team will be found out 2 pops in 2 minutes and only 1 post left, wonder if that too will be used as a pop ? here's an idea why not inform the rest of us, with that post, why you feel victim to the mods actions then we may consider if you are being a woose or have indeed experienced an injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 And woe betide anyone who should dare suggest another poster is anything other than sweetness and light, as you will fall foul of the other very serious issue on the innernetz of insulting another poster :shock: *gasp* ... you don't mean "inciting poster hatred"?:smt046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_carlin Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Well, there is a law against inciting racial hatred and I guess the mods may have felt that suggesting members of the public to join the EDL may have been seen as a little inflammatory. They did well to delete the thread and you'd do well to get over it. Complete bollards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_carlin Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I am wondering if bigtone has actually recieved a full apology from whoever runs this forum regading a moderator calling him a 'nazi'. Do moderators give each other infractions or is it fair game mods slagging off a forum member ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I miss the S4E days. The truly good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 29 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I am wondering if bigtone has actually recieved a full apology from whoever runs this forum regading a moderator calling him a 'nazi'. Do moderators give each other infractions or is it fair game mods slagging off a forum member ? I can confirm no apology was recieved,but why would they?They are in a position where anything they believe goes.I also am not a nazi,have never been one,nor have any of my family.In fact my grandfather fought the nazis in the war!Hope that clears that one up without incurring more points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Ok you might not be a nazi Tony, but are you a little bit racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 2 pops in 2 minutes and only 1 post left, wonder if that too will be used as a pop ? here's an idea why not inform the rest of us, with that post, why you feel victim to the mods actions then we may consider if you are being a woose or have indeed experienced an injustice. Well, this post : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=475141&postcount=37 received an infraction from Boj. Closely followed by this one : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=485806&postcount=2908 And this one : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=480327&postcount=24 All four of them issued for the dreadful crime of 'insulting other members'. I'm sure I'll get another one for posting links to them now, which will take me over 10 points, so I'm off for a little holiday. Plus another one on the posters I wish were missing thread, which has been removed completely - that one was obviously REALLY bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I also am not a nazi,have never been one,nor have any of my family.In fact my grandfather fought the nazis in the war! Fxxk me that was almost word for word what Griffin said, however, I am not suggesting none of it is not true, about you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Fxxk me that was almost word for word what Griffin said, however, I am not suggesting none of it is not true, about you Reminds me a little of someone saying "some of my best friends are black/asian/gay/whatever..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 All four of them issued for the dreadful crime of 'insulting other members'( We now await the case for the prosecution ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Well, this post : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=475141&postcount=37 received an infraction from Boj. Closely followed by this one : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=485806&postcount=2908 And this one : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=480327&postcount=24 All four of them issued for the dreadful crime of 'insulting other members'. I'm sure I'll get another one for posting links to them now, which will take me over 10 points, so I'm off for a little holiday. Plus another one on the posters I wish were missing thread, which has been removed completely - that one was obviously REALLY bad I'm interested to hear, WSS, whether you've ever received an infraction from me, despite obvious attampts to **** me off on a daily basis? Then I'd be interested to know whether you think I'm a fair or a bad moderator, based on that. The answer could be quite revealing as if you think it's bad that I haven't infracted you then you accept that you're acting like a tool but if you think I'm good then it means that you've been acting like a tool by trying to wind me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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