Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 In Watford, parents have just been banned from supervising their own children in council-run playgrounds. If your kids need a push on a swing, they will have to depend on council-appointed (and presumably CRB-vetted?) 'play rangers'. You will have to stand in a designated safe area away from the playground itself. According to Watford's Mayor, Dorothy Thornhill: 'Sadly, in today's climate, you can't have adults walking around unchecked in a children's playground.' After the recent 'scare' of one mother watching over her friend's children for a couple of hours a day, the criminalisation of normal family life continues apace. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/henryporter/2009/oct/28/parents-playground-children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 What a load of b0ll0cks. When will all this end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 FFS,if i am with my little boy in a playground I will be the one who supervises him,no-one else. One of the reasons i take him to the playground is for the interaction with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Freewill is no longer neccesary. The government will do all the thinking and care taking you need. Risk is now irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 About bloody time too. Far too many perverts walking about, hanging around playgrounds, pretending to be parents. It's a sign of a strong government that they are willing to offend one or two people in order to oust the perverts and child abusers. No loony left leadership here, this is strong and decisive. The loony left PC brigade would probably set up viewing areas for the perverts, with free cake and tissues. This is the sort of thing that St George and I will see eye to eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 All the time the limpy lefties are in, this will be the way of the world. All stems from the yanks and there stupid compensation culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I'm sure the likes if BTF will be delighted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 This is what happens when you elect a LibDem ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I hate LEFTIES like others if I take my girl to the park its to interact with them not some pr**k ranger! what is happening to this country. PS and those a little too far on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 This is not about party politics. This is entirely about idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 The council are apparently blaming the new vetting law. Now, if that were the case, ( and I think the new law is an absolute disgrace, insulting to every member of the adult population of this country, and complete waste of time and money ), surely every council in the country would be doing the same thing ? All she is doing is making local politics even more of a laughing stock, ( if that were possible ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 This is not about party politics. This is entirely about idiocy. Please explain the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 All the time the limpy lefties are in, this will be the way of the world. All stems from the yanks and there stupid compensation culture. Speaking as a limpy lefty, I'm stunned by this, quite frankly. And I don't think this is a 'left-right' issue at all. Some of the most basic civil liberties in Britain have been severely eroded by an Orwellian impulse in the government to monitor every single aspect of our lives. But it doesn't just infect the government; the police are at it as well. The Guardian's revelations about how the police simply invented a new category 'domestic extremist' - which has no meaning in British law - to target people who disagree with the authorities, reveals how this 'mission creep' is starting to overwhelm us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Speaking as a limpy lefty, I'm stunned by this, quite frankly. And I don't think this is a 'left-right' issue at all. Some of the most basic civil liberties in Britain have been severely eroded by an Orwellian impulse in the government to monitor every single aspect of our lives. But it doesn't just infect the government; the police are at it as well. The Guardian's revelations about how the police simply invented a new category 'domestic extremist' - which has no meaning in British law - to target people who disagree with the authorities, reveals how this 'mission creep' is starting to overwhelm us. I couldn't agree more. What amazes me is that we (and I include myself in this despite the fact that I've seen it coming) are letting them get away with it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Speaking as a limpy lefty, I'm stunned by this, quite frankly. And I don't think this is a 'left-right' issue at all. Some of the most basic civil liberties in Britain have been severely eroded by an Orwellian impulse in the government to monitor every single aspect of our lives. But it doesn't just infect the government; the police are at it as well. The Guardian's revelations about how the police simply invented a new category 'domestic extremist' - which has no meaning in British law - to target people who disagree with the authorities, reveals how this 'mission creep' is starting to overwhelm us. TBCH i don't actually think it is a left-right issue either, some small pockets of local councils etc and other school governers seem to go far far OTT about things these days and invent these very stupid rules etc. You would think that the government would intervene in things like this as i am sure it causes civil unrest etc. I couldn't agree more. What amazes me is that we (and I include myself in this despite the fact that I've seen it coming) are letting them get away with it all. +1 Ponts. Thing is we are a country of moaners, but that is all we do, we do not become empowered as a nation. If you look at the french, ok, nobody likes them but fair play in the way that they will not take unwanted change and stand up to what they believe. As a nation we would rather sit back and whinge in the pub and on net forums rather then actually voice disapproval where it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I'm sure the likes if BTF will be delighted I doubt it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I doubt it very much. Indeed. The only people I'd imagine it will make happy are paedos with no prior convictions who manage to get jobs as these park rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Sadly absolutely nothing surprises me with Watford Council, their policies on virtually everything are wishy washy at best. According to our wonderful Mayor “The playgrounds are not a meeting place for adults. We have reviewed our procedures, so although previously some parents have stayed with their children at the discretion of our play-workers, this is not something we can continue to do. “There are other places in the town for parents with small children to go.” Like where exactly ? They demolished the only swimming pool years ago. Last I looked the space was still unused though I guess they'll build flat/houses at some point if they haven't started already. They really are pathetic, thankfully little of what they do has any affect on me and I'm truly grateful I don't drive with continual roadworks and parking for many residents very difficult at the best of times. On match days it's nigh on impossible and I strongly supect Watford has more parking wardens per capita than any town or city in the world not to mention thugs who pose as clampers. Sorry, straying off the point but did I mention I'm not a fan of Watford Borough Council ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 All the time the limpy lefties are in, this will be the way of the world. All stems from the yanks and there stupid compensation culture. Yeah, those bloody leftie yanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I dispair - really I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 'Designated safe area' sums it all up really doesn't it. It is so pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 About bloody time too. Far too many perverts walking about, hanging around playgrounds, pretending to be parents. It's a sign of a strong government that they are willing to offend one or two people in order to oust the perverts and child abusers. No loony left leadership here, this is strong and decisive. The loony left PC brigade would probably set up viewing areas for the perverts, with free cake and tissues. This is the sort of thing that St George and I will see eye to eye on. What about the parents wandering unsupervised around childrens' homes! Something must be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Sadly absolutely nothing surprises me with Watford Council, their policies on virtually everything are wishy washy at best. According to our wonderful Mayor “The playgrounds are not a meeting place for adults. We have reviewed our procedures, so although previously some parents have stayed with their children at the discretion of our play-workers, this is not something we can continue to do. “There are other places in the town for parents with small children to go.” Like where exactly ? They demolished the only swimming pool years ago. Last I looked the space was still unused though I guess they'll build flat/houses at some point if they haven't started already. They really are pathetic, thankfully little of what they do has any affect on me and I'm truly grateful I don't drive with continual roadworks and parking for many residents very difficult at the best of times. On match days it's nigh on impossible and I strongly supect Watford has more parking wardens per capita than any town or city in the world not to mention thugs who pose as clampers. Sorry, straying off the point but did I mention I'm not a fan of Watford Borough Council ! So where exactly do the parents go whilst their children are being 'cared for' by a complete stranger ? Are they allowed to lean on the fence a few yards away, along with any other tom **** and harriet, or should they go down to the bookies or the pub for a few hours. :cool: How many 'carers'are there on duty? Presumably also somebody to sign in and sign out all the kids and check identities of the people collecting the kids, somebody to supervise all this and deal with queries and not to mention the medical staff on standby, as the kids are now the sole responsibility of the council :confused:. Scrub that you probably have to sign a waiver accepting responsibility for all injuries, damage and loss of your children whilst under the supervision of the council :mad: Imagination the situation at the park gates ... oh daddy why can't you come and push me on the swings like you did with my big brother and sister? Sorry darling the council know whats best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 So where exactly do the parents go whilst their children are being 'cared for' by a complete stranger ? Are they allowed to lean on the fence a few yards away, along with any other tom **** and harriet, or should they go down to the bookies or the pub for a few hours. :cool: How many 'carers'are there on duty? Presumably also somebody to sign in and sign out all the kids and check identities of the people collecting the kids, somebody to supervise all this and deal with queries and not to mention the medical staff on standby, as the kids are now the sole responsibility of the council :confused:. Scrub that you probably have to sign a waiver accepting responsibility for all injuries, damage and loss of your children whilst under the supervision of the council :mad: Imagination the situation at the park gates ... oh daddy why can't you come and push me on the swings like you did with my big brother and sister? Sorry darling the council know whats best. Presumably they want one parent at least from each family to drop everything else and become a teaching assistant so they can keep in touch with what their own kids are doing. Blimey, years ago my Dad used to come and watch me play football for the school team and if it was an away game drive me a a few other kids home. He'd probably get charged with kidknapping these days !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Good luck to any 'warden' trying to stop me taking the kids to the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 what a complete load of b8ll8x this is!!.....how DARE anyone attempt to take vital parent/child bonding away !!....any idiot knows that children learn best through play and who better to show them how to learn and play correctly than their parent/grandparent/guardian etc???...not some effing stranger who has no affection for that child......will the child's eyes light up when this 'stranger pushes them on a swing for the first time, or be able to give them a cuddle if they fall off the slide???...WILL THEY F$CK! This is the most ridiculous case of "job creation" i have EVER heard of, and anyone willing to be a "playpark ranger" or whatever the hell they're called, want their head seeing to! people of Watford, you know what to do at the next local election.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 what a complete load of b8ll8x this is!!.....how DARE anyone attempt to take vital parent/child bonding away !!....any idiot knows that children learn best through play and who better to show them how to learn and play correctly than their parent/grandparent/guardian etc???...not some effing stranger who has no affection for that child......will the child's eyes light up when this 'stranger pushes them on a swing for the first time, or be able to give them a cuddle if they fall off the slide???...WILL THEY F$CK! This is the most ridiculous case of "job creation" i have EVER heard of, and anyone willing to be a "playpark ranger" or whatever the hell they're called, want their head seeing to! people of Watford, you know what to do at the next local election.!!! Unfortunately not enough of us do seem to know what to do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timebomb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 As usual these stories are not what they seem. http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/content/strategic-services/home-page-content/statement-about-harwoods-and-harebreaks-adventure-playground.en Quote:If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them. In the town, there are 4 community centres, 5 children’s centres, over 40 areas of park and playgrounds, as well as a museum, two libraries... These are also free to attend and open to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 As usual these stories are not what they seem. http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/content/strategic-services/home-page-content/statement-about-harwoods-and-harebreaks-adventure-playground.en Quote:If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them. In the town, there are 4 community centres, 5 children’s centres, over 40 areas of park and playgrounds, as well as a museum, two libraries... These are also free to attend and open to everyone. From that link: "We have simply reiterated that the fully supervised play sessions we run at our adventure playgrounds - Harebreaks and Harwoods - are for children aged 5 -15 years old, and that parents/carers of children and young people who visit these play sessions are not able to stay on site with their children during play sessions. This reduces any potential risks to children and ensures they are able to play freely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 As usual these stories are not what they seem. http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/content/strategic-services/home-page-content/statement-about-harwoods-and-harebreaks-adventure-playground.en Quote:If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them. In the town, there are 4 community centres, 5 children’s centres, over 40 areas of park and playgrounds, as well as a museum, two libraries... These are also free to attend and open to everyone. oh....thats ok then.so if they don't want to go to the "supervised park" then all the families that live near said park can get in their cars or get on a bus and travel (miles??) to one of these places rather than visit the park round the corner!!....that's intelligent!!! not to mention great for the environment!!:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 As Henry Porter says in the Guardian article, the council are claiming loudly that they've been misquoted, then not only fail to say how, but go on to confirm the story in all its awfulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Good luck to any 'warden' trying to stop me taking the kids to the park. Agree 100%:mad: Thing is though, if every parent just ignores it, what can they do? Warden:- YOu parents can't come in here with your children Parents:- F**k off Warden:- Err, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Agree 100%:mad: Thing is though, if every parent just ignores it, what can they do? Warden:- YOu parents can't come in here with your children Parents:- F**k off Warden:- Err, ok. either that or boycott the playground.......there wouldn't be much call for "supervisors" if there's no-one to supervise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 either that or boycott the playground.......there wouldn't be much call for "supervisors" if there's no-one to supervise! ...since when would that matter? They'll just get those annoying little people (commonly referred to as taxpayers) to cough up or pick the notes off the leftie magic money tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 ...since when would that matter? They'll just get those annoying little people (commonly referred to as taxpayers) to cough up or pick the notes off the leftie magic money tree. good point!......scratch the 'boycotting' idea then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 good point!......scratch the 'boycotting' idea then Any other bright ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 (edited) Any other bright ideas How about vote tory in watford....(irrespective of your political persuasion) 1) to give Clown a bloody nose 2) to remove ****tish lib dem councillors (http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/navigation/council-and-democracy/) Simples http://www.richardforwatford.com/2009/10/parents-and-playgrounds-when-will-common-sense-prevail-in-watford/ Edited 28 October, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 As Henry Porter says in the Guardian article, the council are claiming loudly that they've been misquoted, then not only fail to say how, but go on to confirm the story in all its awfulness. No, of course they were not misquoted, how often do you hear that when it suits? Pretty damned hard to misquote a statement as simple and blatant as this: “There are other places in the town for parents with small children to go.” There are other places the Council can go as well but I'm sure I can leave it to everyone to decide what they might be ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 How about vote tory in watford....(irrespective of your political persuasion) 1) to give Clown a bloody nose 2) to remove ****tish lib dem councillors Simples http://www.richardforwatford.com/2009/10/parents-and-playgrounds-when-will-common-sense-prevail-in-watford/ That's more like it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Great decision. I can see the advertisements now: 'Play Rangers wanted -£26,000 pa' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Great decision. I can see the advertisements now: 'Play Rangers wanted -£26,000 pa' I get the Watford Free paper, I've seen the ads already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I heard that Gordon Brown receives on average two human turds in the post every week. What I want to know is who's sending the second one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 What a load of ******, it make you wonder what sort of idiots are in charge of the country. Every time you hear stories like this you just want to vote Tory, just to hopefully make a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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