Verbal Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Proof that Most Haunted is Set Up Freaky! I somehow knew that! Ooh goosebumps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 If you are serious there is a chap who I work with who organises overnight stays in local haunted establishmants. They are out this weekend as it is hallowe'en, although he does stress that the dates are pretty insignificant to spirits in his experiences. I could pm you his facebook group but he doesn't like p***takers. can you leave the name of the group on Hunty's pm's as i dont think i can access them, cheers mate oh and where are they based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 can you leave the name of the group on Hunty's pm's as i dont think i can access them, cheers mate oh and where are they based? It's Ghostbusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I want to believe, the truth is out there ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 can you leave the name of the group on Hunty's pm's as i dont think i can access them, cheers mate oh and where are they based? Sorry mate cannot remember the name as it was about 6 years ago, but they are probablt on the internet now and they were based around Eastleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Sorry mate cannot remember the name as it was about 6 years ago, but they are probablt on the internet now and they were based around Eastleigh. ok no probs, just that ive been working at Beaulieu and hadnt heard of a single group investigating there, as far as im aware they have always opened up for three groups but thats it, wont allow anymore groups in If anyone is interested i know Beaulieu have opened the next two friday nights for investigations, tickets only, bookable through the Beaulieu website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 ok no probs, just that ive been working at Beaulieu and hadnt heard of a single group investigating there, as far as im aware they have always opened up for three groups but thats it, wont allow anymore groups in If anyone is interested i know Beaulieu have opened the next two friday nights for investigations, tickets only, bookable through the Beaulieu website When I went the group that i attended with were the last group allowed there. I think it was because the other groups didnt take it very seriously and made a bit of trouble for the security. As I say it was about six years ago so could have changed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Hello mate Only groups i found local are Southern Paranormal, UKPRS and the HGC, dont know much about the first one, other two are well known locally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_hill Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 I belong to a group that investigates paranormal incidents. I have spent nights in the now disused Oxford prison (as an investigator, ta very much), Belgrave Hall in Leicester, Netley Abbey (I did a thesis on that) and I also investigated a report of a family that had a very strange manifestation on an old video. Some of these things made me afraid but none of them provided any conclusive proof. I've come to the conclusion that belief in ghosts is as illogical and as supported by evidence as belief in Santa. Likewise, belief in an afterlife and any form of god is our attempt to rationalise the unrationalisable (is that a word?). The human mind is not designed to handle the concept of something coming from nothing, or something becoming nothing. We attempt to deal with this through religion and paranormal beliefs. That is not to say that we understand everything, of course we don't, but that does not justify or rationalise belief in ridiculous things. As one person said - it's very likely aliens exist, but a lot less likely they have made contact with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Hello Greg is that conclusive proof that stuff we dont understand through conventional science at the moment doesnt exist or do you just believe that science will never advance in this field and as such we are as far advanced as we will ever be? just wondered as science is always finding things that were never thought possible, and ghosts or spirits if they were to exist, would probably be unprovable and probably 99.9% could normally be natural occurances that have been misunderstood, but what about the other 0.1% what was your take on poltergheist activity? how about EVP's? for every sceptical cry of RFI theres a scientist claiming that is near impossible in some circumstances I fully understand the alien equation due to the number of planets, one at least must support life, but what about the millions of reported paranormal events, isnt it possible that some are unexplainable? oh and before you all lambast me, im a sceptical believer, always looking for the reasonable explanation, but seeing things that i cant find an answer to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Netley Abbey is supposedly very haunted. When me and my mate's where young we used to hear of the 'Grey Lady' who worked at the military hospital during the Crimea War but her husband died in action and she couldn't take it so she jumped off the top of the Chapel which now stands in the Victoria country park. Apparently you can see her jumping off at midnight some nights, and some even say if you do see her you die within a few days... Me and my mates always said we would camp up there to try and see it happen... We never did stay overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Netley Abbey, owned by English Heritage, overnight investigation cost £1,500 plus security guard consequently hardly ever investigated (unless you want to jump the fence of course and hope said security guard and dog dont appear lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 The Abbey itself is very eerie even in daytime, don't know if I'd like it there at night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_hill Posted 31 October, 2009 Share Posted 31 October, 2009 Hi Mustapha, This is one of those topics that seems so simple in my mind, but so hard to put into words, so bear with me :-) No I don't think science has peaked and I thought I was clear about that. However, I believe the fundamental mistake we humans make is to attribute anything we don't understand to our own supernatural fantasies, which in fact is the total opposite of applying science. We used to believe that the weather showed the temper of the gods until we came to study the atmosphere. We used to believe that mental illnesses were some form of demonic possession until we came to understand psychology. Yet, still we continue to ignore the law of parsimony for things we don't fully "get". If I see a strange figure walking across a graveyard at night, I'm tempted to think it could be a spirit. Of course, it's far more likely to be a trick of the light, a hallucination due to illness or medication on my part, or even some manifestation we don't yet understand. None of these answers can point towards the existence of an afterlife or reincarnation, yet that would be the first conclusion of so many people. It's a logical fallacy: to equate the unexplainable with the failure of science and proof of pre-conceived supernatural beliefs. Why do we think like this? Like I said, the human mind is not designed to comprehend the idea of something coming from nothing (The Universe) and is terrified of death because like all species we seek to preserve and procreate. Because of this nature, we seem to dream up ideas of religion and the supernatural and attempt to apply them in situations that otherwise mystify or terrify us, when in fact science would be a far better tool to help us understand. The Abbey itself is very eerie even in daytime, don't know if I'd like it there at night! This is a good point and it highlights another factor we overlook: our own psychology. Unless ghosts have some form of criteria for haunting that states a place must look spooky, then there is no logical reason for the Abbey to have more ghosts than any other historical building, so why is there such an excess? When I studied Netley Abbey I went to the historical section of the library and read several books from various time periods. Each book seemed to tell a completely different spooky tale about the Abbey. In my opinion it's easy to understand why: because the Abbey **looks** scary, each generation has made up various scary tales and passed them on to their friends. Moreover, the scarier a building looks, the more likely we are to attribute any strange event there as something supernatural. As an interesting aside though, there was one book which quoted a bizarre hymn or chant by the monks of the Abbey which put a curse on some group or something which I forget. If there are any local historians reading, I'd appreciate a reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 31 October, 2009 Share Posted 31 October, 2009 Netley Abbey is supposedly very haunted. When me and my mate's where young we used to hear of the 'Grey Lady' who worked at the military hospital during the Crimea War but her husband died in action and she couldn't take it so she jumped off the top of the Chapel which now stands in the Victoria country park. Apparently you can see her jumping off at midnight some nights, and some even say if you do see her you die within a few days... Me and my mates always said we would camp up there to try and see it happen... We never did stay overnight. Funnily enough in todays Echo there's a picture on Netley Abbey with a dark figured ghost in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 31 October, 2009 Share Posted 31 October, 2009 Funnily enough in todays Echo there's a picture on Netley Abbey with a dark figured ghost in it. Spoooooky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 November, 2009 Share Posted 1 November, 2009 I've always had quite an open mind on this kind of stuff, most haunted ''used'' to be quite interesting... watched it last night and they hung a member of their crew on some old gallows ffs, as they say this will conjure up the spirits. It didn't. (oh, but they did hear a knock on the table) The guy was ok, as he had a harness attached to him but it's still a pretty stupid experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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