BNP on Question Time ......

[mickn]

the audience were specifically 'vetted' for last nights show also

 

Says who?

[Ludwig]

There was a cross-section of society, inc. BNP supporters in the audience yesterday. Fact.

[Thedelldays]

Says who?

heard it on 5live when driving back to plymouth yesterday evening...when they were reporting on the idiots causing trouble outside

[Joensuu]

Only 6% of the population are non-white, yet the audience last night was roughly half and half..............so which way do you want it?????

 

Close, but no biscuit - 7.9% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

Anyhow, the QT audience is a proportion of the population of the local town it is broadcast from: in this case London. Meaning that if the audience was representative of the population of the city it should have been c. 30.6% non-white. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

 

I feel that this is about the percentage of the audience who were non-white last night: a good example of the fair representation.

 

~Edit - just noticed Scummer's post above, beat me to it.

 

Gingeletiss - QT reflects the diversity of whichever city/town it broadcasts from each week - are you suggesting they should change their rules just for the BNP?

Edited 23 October, 2009 by Joensuu

[Joensuu]

the audience were specifically 'vetted' for last nights show also

 

Of course they were. How else could the BBC be sure that everyone was fairly represented? If they hadn't and only interested parties (ie NF, AntiFacists, and minority groups) had got in, the BBC would have been in deep trouble!

[badgerx16]

Let's be honest though, nobody outside London has anything much to say that is worth listening to.

Are you inside or outside London ?

[Gingeletiss]

Close, but no biscuit - 7.9% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

Anyhow, the QT audience is a proportion of the population of the local town it is broadcast from: in this case London. Meaning that if the audience was representative of the population of the city it should have been c. 30.6% non-white. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

 

I feel that this is about the percentage of the audience who were non-white last night: a good example of the fair representation.

 

~Edit - just noticed Scummer's post above, beat me to it.

 

Gingeletiss - QT reflects the diversity of whichever city/town it broadcasts from each week - are you suggesting they should change their rules just for the BNP?

 

No..............if you read what I have posted, I am pointing out the unfairness of the programme, and the way it was set up to hang Griffin. It is a political programme, not a 'get the BNP' programme......if you honestly think that was a fair showing, and was reflective of the mindset of this country....then I truely feel sorry for you.

 

As I said previous, I can see what your political leanings are....but you do not come across as a thug, but as an intelligent individual....surely even you must agree, that was out of order by the BBC....a left wing organisation?????...............I'd say!!!!!!!

[Rattlehead]

Are you inside or outside London ?

 

I am in London. Watch and learn badger.

[View From The Top]

Are you inside or outside London ?

 

Outside, clearly.

[Joensuu]

No..............if you read what I have posted, I am pointing out the unfairness of the programme, and the way it was set up to hang Griffin. It is a political programme, not a 'get the BNP' programme......if you honestly think that was a fair showing, and was reflective of the mindset of this country....then I truely feel sorry for you.

 

As I said previous, I can see what your political leanings are....but you do not come across as a thug, but as an intelligent individual....surely even you must agree, that was out of order by the BBC....a left wing organisation?????...............I'd say!!!!!!!

 

Cheers for the compliment...

however, I respectfully disagree with you. I don't see any evidence to support the view that 'it was set up to hang Griffin' is any shape or form. I honestly feel that this was as reflective of the mindset of the country as would be possible to broadcast (a true reflection of the mindset of the country, and Griffin and his chums would have been lucky to get out of Broadcasting House!).

I also disagree with you that the 'BBC....[is] a left wing organisation'. In my opinion they are attempting to stay as neutral as possible, representing all sides impartially. Unfortunately the right wing political ground occupied by the three main parties means that by comparison the BBC's neutral independent position is often perceived as being 'left wing'.

It would be a sad state of affairs if a neutral independent position has become incorrectly perceived to be left wing.

[Gingeletiss]

Cheers for the compliment...

 

however, I respectfully disagree with you. I don't see any evidence to support the view that 'it was set up to hang Griffin' is any shape or form. I honestly feel that this was as reflective of the mindset of the country as would be possible to broadcast (a true reflection of the mindset of the country, and Griffin and his chums would have been lucky to get out of Broadcasting House!).

 

I also disagree with you that the 'BBC....[is] a left wing organisation'. In my opinion they are attempting to stay as neutral as possible, representing all sides impartially. Unfortunately the right wing political ground occupied by the three main parties means that by comparison the BBC's neutral independent position is often perceived as being 'left wing'.

 

It would be a sad state of affairs if a neutral independent position has become incorrectly perceived to be left wing.

 

Alas..........on those two points alone, you have shown your political mindset.

 

Point one...........I work in a workforce of 25 People....to a person, they all agree that immigration should be stopped...how's that for a quick straw poll. Many others in my field of family and friends...feel pretty much the same.......I doubt any support the BNP, or not that they've said.

 

Point 2........The Beeb, Auntie...........LOL...of course it's left wing, only those to the left would say that it's not.....On this we will have to agree to disagree.

[Sheaf Saint]

A balanced post, most of which I agree with, then you have to use an insult, to make your point....Why???

 

Because Griffin showed himself up for what he truly is lastnight: a hypocritical, bigoted liar. If anybody is actually taken in by his constant bleating of "we're not a racist party - honest guv" and genuinely believes that he has changed from man that was convicted of inciting racial hatred, then they must be either a simpleton, or just as racist as Griffin himself.

[badgerx16]

I am in London. Watch and learn badger.

As somebody outside London, and quite obviously a northerner, I do find very little of interest in what you say, so perhaps you got your statement the wrong way round

[View From The Top]

 

Point one...........I work in a workforce of 25 People....to a person, they all agree that immigration should be stopped...how's that for a quick straw poll. Many others in my field of family and friends...feel pretty much the same.......I doubt any support the BNP, or not that they've said.

 

 

All my leftie friends feel the same way, as do I and I do believe it to be a true reflection of the majority of the population, regardless of political leanings.

[Johnny Bognor]

Cheers for the compliment...

 

however, I respectfully disagree with you. I don't see any evidence to support the view that 'it was set up to hang Griffin' is any shape or form. I honestly feel that this was as reflective of the mindset of the country as would be possible to broadcast (a true reflection of the mindset of the country, and Griffin and his chums would have been lucky to get out of Broadcasting House!).

 

I also disagree with you that the 'BBC....[is] a left wing organisation'. In my opinion they are attempting to stay as neutral as possible, representing all sides impartially. Unfortunately the right wing political ground occupied by the three main parties means that by comparison the BBC's neutral independent position is often perceived as being 'left wing'.

 

It would be a sad state of affairs if a neutral independent position has become incorrectly perceived to be left wing.

 

No, I am sorry, after the Ryan Air Panorama programme it clearly showed what a bunch of lefties they are. Criticising Ryan Air for keeping costs as low as possible (especially when they are a low cost airline)...... hello, they have a moral duty to their shareholders to maximise profits. In order to do this (as a low cost airline), strangely enough they have to nail costs to the floor.

 

I want Michael O'Leary to run the BBC if you ask me. That'll teach them lefties how not to waste taxpayers money.

 

Last night was supposed to be Question Time, not Nick Griffin time. The way the audience and the questions were selected was clearly a setup. For the record, I can't stand the man or what he stands for, but I want to know what the politicians are going to do about the postal strikes and the fact that we are now in the longest recession since WW2.

 

It is not the BBC's job to bring the BNP down......that is the responsibility of the main parties (especially Labour) who have failed to address the immigration issues and have lost their supporters to more extreme parties. This point was referred to in the programme, but as usual the teflon lefties refused to acknowledge their contribution to the rise in the support for the BNP.

 

If anyone should be ashamed, it should be Bliar and Clown.

[Pancake]

Has anyone else noticed a link between the odd, over-use of punctuation and right wing views?

[Johnny Bognor]

Has anyone else noticed a link between the odd, over-use of punctuation and right wing views?

 

No ..... what's your problem??????

[Scudamore]

Alas..........on those two points alone, you have shown your political mindset.

 

You like to pigeonhole don't you?

[Thedelldays]

Because Griffin showed himself up for what he truly is lastnight: a hypocritical, bigoted liar. If anybody is actually taken in by his constant bleating of "we're not a racist party - honest guv" and genuinely believes that he has changed from man that was convicted of inciting racial hatred, then they must be either a simpleton, or just as racist as Griffin himself.

thing is..he can be all he wants

 

the lefty do gooders, open border PC brigade are more than adequate of pushing people towards the BNP/EDL....and they have and cant see it

 

nu labour are probably the best recruiting tool the BNP could ask for

 

they were commenting on the This Week programme how maggie thatcher quashed the NF movement at the time....shame it has been allowed to pop up again in the form on the BNP

[CB Fry]

In which case......Question time, whilst filmed in London, is a programme for the nation, so therefore, should reflect the nation, and not just London. Which ever way you cut it, like him or not, that was an unfair attack on Griffin, and IMO, the BBC should be ashamed.

 

 

Question Time is hardly ever filmed in London. It tours round the country.

 

This is part of the problem - people commenting about Question Time when they clearly have never seen the program ever before last night.

[Sheaf Saint]

 

It is not the BBC's job to bring the BNP down......that is the responsibility of the main parties (especially Labour) who have failed to address the immigration issues

 

See, this is precisely the point I was making in my earlier post. Why is this incorrect assumption continually regurgitated over and over again? Labour HAVE changed their immigration policy, even if it is too little too late; The Tories have laid out in their manifesto how they will introduce a yearly cap on the amount of economic migrants allowed to enter the country if they are elected, and the Lib Dems' stance is similar. This information is clearly available in the public domain, yet still people refuse to believe it and continue to perpetuate the myth that none of the main parties are doing, or plan to do anything at all about the previous immigration policies in place in this country.

[Johnny Bognor]

See, this is precisely the point I was making in my earlier post. Why is this incorrect assumption continually regurgitated over and over again? Labour HAVE changed their immigration policy, even if it is too little too late; The Tories have laid out in their manifesto how they will introduce a yearly cap on the amount of economic migrants allowed to enter the country if they are elected, and the Lib Dems' stance is similar. This information is clearly available in the public domain, yet still people refuse to believe it and continue to perpetuate the myth that none of the main parties are doing, or plan to do anything at all about the previous immigration policies in place in this country.

 

But surely if you change your policy and it is too little too late, then by definition you have failed. It is this failure to deal with it before it was too late that has given rise to the BNP. In the same way, a failure to deal with the boom built on debt resulted in the worst recession on record. Yes, Labour have now changed their economic policy, but again it is too little too late and we are now suffering the consequences.

Edited 23 October, 2009 by Johnny Bognor

[solentstars]

But surely if you change your policy and it is too little too late, then by definition you have failed. It is this failure to deal with it before it was too late that has given rise to the BNP. In the same way, a failure to deal with the boom built on debt resulted in the worst recession on record. Yes, Labour have now changed their economic policy, but again it is too little too late and we are now suffering the consequences.

 

immigration policy is a nonsence has most immigrants have come from eastern europe over the last decade due to the ecnomic growth and the fact we have a ageing population,anyone who is in the europeon union can work anywhere in the eu and their is nothing we can do about it, unless we leave the eu.

[nick1579]

Only 6% of the population are non-white, yet the audience last night was roughly half and half..............so which way do you want it?????

 

Great point, but it WAS London.

[Johnny Bognor]

immigration policy is a nonsence has most immigrants have come from eastern europe over the last decade due to the ecnomic growth and the fact we have a ageing population,anyone who is in the europeon union can work anywhere in the eu and their is nothing we can do about it, unless we leave the eu.

 

When the A8 (Accession Countries) joined the EU in 2004, all 15 existing members of the EU were allowed to impose limits for up to 7 years. All countries, except for Ireland, Sweden and the UK did so.

 

You can continue to peddle the leftie lie that there was nothing that could be done, but you can't get away with it.......Labour failed (unsurprisingly) and alas the BNP have made political gain from Labour's failures.

 

Acually, if you want anyone to blame for the BNP, it's as much the morons who voted for Labour as it is the morons who voted for the BNP.

[.comsaint]

No..............if you read what I have posted, I am pointing out the unfairness of the programme, and the way it was set up to hang Griffin. It is a political programme, not a 'get the BNP' programme......

 

Agree entirely with that.

[Baj]

Acually, if you want anyone to blame for the BNP, it's as much the morons who voted for Labour as it is the morons who voted for the BNP.

Idiotic comment of the day.

[Smirking_Saint]

Griffin was obviously found out for how much of a racist he actually is, the fact that he could not adequately argue the fact that he was a holocaust denyer ruined him TBH.

 

If the BNP are to get any credence from a larger base of the general public they need to shed him TBH.

 

Unfortunately they are the only party with the bottle to ask the questions and say the things that many in this country are too scared of. That being said however, they take things too far

[solentstars]

When the A8 (Accession Countries) joined the EU in 2004, all 15 existing members of the EU were allowed to impose limits for up to 7 years. All countries, except for Ireland, Sweden and the UK did so.

 

You can continue to peddle the leftie lie that there was nothing that could be done, but you can't get away with it.......Labour failed (unsurprisingly) and alas the BNP have made political gain from Labour's failures.

 

Acually, if you want anyone to blame for the BNP, it's as much the morons who voted for Labour as it is the morons who voted for the BNP.

 

yes but the point is after those 7 years their is nothing you could do do to stop any member of eu coming to work here and the torys if they were in power would have followed the same policys has labour -due to the fact we were in a economic boom at the time and it would driven down wages.

their are no lefties -new labour are just another tory party.

[solentstars]

Idiotic comment of the day.

agree it shows him up to be abit of a tool.

[Gemmel]

See, this is precisely the point I was making in my earlier post. Why is this incorrect assumption continually regurgitated over and over again? Labour HAVE changed their immigration policy, even if it is too little too late; The Tories have laid out in their manifesto how they will introduce a yearly cap on the amount of economic migrants allowed to enter the country if they are elected, and the Lib Dems' stance is similar. This information is clearly available in the public domain, yet still people refuse to believe it and continue to perpetuate the myth that none of the main parties are doing, or plan to do anything at all about the previous immigration policies in place in this country.

 

The answer regarding immigration is that it is all about perception.

Significant numbers of the public are against immigration and our Countries policies, without really knowing why or indeed what they are.

 

For many it's just a kop out and allows them to blame something other than themselves, as to why they dont have a big house or flash car. Others are simply ignorant to the facts or the reality of what immigration acheives.

 

For both groups of people and the huge numbers of those undecided on the issue, there should be debate/ dialogue etc. Labour and Tories seem incapable or unwilling to discuss it head on......which may be down to the fact that they don't want to get labeled as racist.

 

When you do get people wanting or prepared to discuss it, they give themselves stupid names that provocate both sides and a quick scratch under the surface and they are exposed as the violent racsists they are and so it's back to square one.

 

The bnp, English defence league and others will continue to gain votes and popularity until, the main stream parties explain to the man in the street the realities, benefits and upside of immigration.

[Viking Warrior]

Only watched the first 15 minutes before I fell asleep so can't comment on all the comments that were made

 

However I was concerned at the amount of bullying and victimisation that was going on on Griffin , Even Dimbleby was giving him a good kicking.

 

Dimbleby has lost stacks of credibility on handling the chair lastnight.

 

We should allow for free speech and democracy but last nights programme was akin to a bunch of baying wolves salivating over their prey

 

I thought we lived in a civilised society but clearly not. Is it okay to victimise and bully someone because they have differing viewpoints.? Clearly judging by the audience and certain panel members its ok to do so.

 

Oh Im not sticking up for Griffin , but if your going to have a debate have one

not the crap that was served up lastnight

[Gingeletiss]

You like to pigeonhole don't you?

 

No more than anyone else on here.............

[solentstars]

Griffin was obviously found out for how much of a racist he actually is, the fact that he could not adequately argue the fact that he was a holocaust denyer ruined him TBH.

 

If the BNP are to get any credence from a larger base of the general public they need to shed him TBH.

 

Unfortunately they are the only party with the bottle to ask the questions and say the things that many in this country are too scared of. That being said however, they take things too far

sorry the guys the enemy within and a tratior to this country like the blackshirts of the past,his bunch of thugs and pedo,s in the background,

just like the national front hysteria of the 70,s ,they will come to nothing.

[Gingeletiss]

Because Griffin showed himself up for what he truly is lastnight: a hypocritical, bigoted liar. If anybody is actually taken in by his constant bleating of "we're not a racist party - honest guv" and genuinely believes that he has changed from man that was convicted of inciting racial hatred, then they must be either a simpleton, or just as racist as Griffin himself.

 

 

Lol......again!!!!. So in your world, anyone who has an issue with immigrants/Islam.....the French/Jocks/Paddys....etc, that differs to that of the tree hugging left, is a Racist!!!!...now that really makes me laugh. Why is it ( and I've said this before), why is it that the Minority in this country, have the biggest say????, simple, the majority are silent. That my friend, is an undenyable truth.

 

On other threads here in the lounge...the insults have mainly been posted by those with a left leaning slant...........why????.....what are you afraid of?????

[Thedelldays]

Only watched the first 15 minutes before I fell asleep so can't comment on all the comments that were made

 

However I was concerned at the amount of bullying and victimisation that was going on on Griffin , Even Dimbleby was giving him a good kicking.

 

Dimbleby has lost stacks of credibility on handling the chair lastnight.

 

We should allow for free speech and democracy but last nights programme was akin to a bunch of baying wolves salivating over their prey

 

I thought we lived in a civilised society but clearly not. Is it okay to victimise and bully someone because they have differing viewpoints.? Clearly judging by the audience and certain panel members its ok to do so.

 

Oh Im not sticking up for Griffin , but if your going to have a debate have one

not the crap that was served up lastnight

 

you are allowed free speech in this country as long as the pro liberals agree with it

 

if the same scenes outside of the BBC building had been caused by the EDL at a hate cleric on the show then I wonder what the reaction would be

[Johnny Bognor]

Idiotic comment of the day.

 

OK, I was getting a bit carried away. I'll retract my comment regarding the voters as they were only blindly voting for a party based on the politics of envy.

 

Labour don't get off the hook so easily as it was their failed policy which has resulted in the rise of the BNP.

 

yes but the point is after those 7 years their is nothing you could do do to stop any member of eu coming to work here and the torys if they were in power would have followed the same policys has labour -due to the fact we were in a economic boom at the time and it would driven down wages.

their are no lefties -new labour are just another tory party.

 

Back in 2005, Michael Howard was arguing for quotas in the run up to the general election.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4243067.stm

 

Read the article and you can see the clear difference between Tory and Labour policy. The Tories wanted a quota, Labour didn't.

 

That is part of the problem.

 

agree it shows him up to be abit of a tool.

 

As you seem to be clearly unable to back up anything you say with historical accuracy or fact and it looks like you are making things up as you go along, it makes you look the tool.

 

....and as it happens, even Labour's Immigration Minister admits it (not you are a tool, just the fact they've failed):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1181003/We-got-wrong-Woolas-finally-admits-Labours-failed-immigration-policy.html

Edited 23 October, 2009 by Johnny Bognor

[.comsaint]

Only watched the first 15 minutes before I fell asleep so can't comment on all the comments that were made

 

However I was concerned at the amount of bullying and victimisation that was going on on Griffin , Even Dimbleby was giving him a good kicking.

 

Dimbleby has lost stacks of credibility on handling the chair lastnight.

 

We should allow for free speech and democracy but last nights programme was akin to a bunch of baying wolves salivating over their prey

 

I thought we lived in a civilised society but clearly not. Is it okay to victimise and bully someone because they have differing viewpoints.? Clearly judging by the audience and certain panel members its ok to do so.

 

Oh Im not sticking up for Griffin , but if your going to have a debate have one

not the crap that was served up last night

 

Indeed - and a spot-on assessment of last night's debate as it happens.

 

Dimbleby didn't do himself any favours whatsoever & looked a complete numpty at the end. I thought he was more bias infact than anyone else - audience or panel! Of all the final questions he could have taken - he chose some half-wit who asked "Has tonight been an early Christmas present for the BNP"! Sums the night up really.

[jeff leopard]

I thought the most telling moment came from the only question which wasn't race-related, and to use a cricketing analogy, this drew him out of his crease (not a nice thought).

 

When asked about homosexuality, he of course said that they're creepy but then dropped the bomb shell that the BNP would ban sex education in primary school. Which effectively means that girls will face pubity before they can be taught about it in school. What rational human could ever think that's a good idea?

 

Less race-bating would have given Griffin much more rope to hang himself with (which would have been the ideal ending of the show) and would have caused the BNP far greater damage.

 

But the only reason Griffin was there was that Labour betrayed the working classes by going all Nu. And until they address this, parties like the BNP will exploit this vacuum.

[solentstars]

[

 

 

Back in 2005, Michael Howard was arguing for quotas in the run up to the general election.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4243067.stm

 

Read the article and you can see the clear difference between Tory and Labour policy. The Tories wanted a quota, Labour didn't.

 

That is part of the problem.

 

howard was playing to the gallery,at election timesl they promise all sorts but once elected he knew he could only put quotas on imigration from the eu if they left the eu,so it was never gone to happen.

[Gemmel]

[

 

 

Back in 2005, Michael Howard was arguing for quotas in the run up to the general election.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4243067.stm

 

Read the article and you can see the clear difference between Tory and Labour policy. The Tories wanted a quota, Labour didn't.

 

That is part of the problem.

 

howard was playing to the gallery,at election timesl they promise all sorts but once elected he knew he could only put quotas on imigration from the eu if they left the eu,so it was never gone to happen.

 

I think you will find other members of the EU did put quota's on and remained in the EU

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

Lol......again!!!!. So in your world, anyone who has an issue with immigrants/Islam.....the French/Jocks/Paddys....etc, that differs to that of the tree hugging left, is a Racist!!!!...now that really makes me laugh. Why is it ( and I've said this before), why is it that the Minority in this country, have the biggest say????, simple, the majority are silent. That my friend, is an undenyable truth.

 

On other threads here in the lounge...the insults have mainly been posted by those with a left leaning slant...........why????.....what are you afraid of?????

 

 

Can't you read properly????????????????.........He is saying that anyone who doesn't think Griffin is a bigoted liar is either a racist or a simpleton....................

 

get it????????????????????????????......do you think Griffin is a racist????????????????????

[.comsaint]

I thought the most telling moment came from the only question which wasn't race-related, and to use a cricketing analogy, this drew him out of his crease (not a nice thought).

 

When asked about homosexuality, he of course said that they're creepy..

.

 

Actually he said

: " I've said that a lot of people find the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy. I understand homosexuals don't understand that - but that's how a lot of us feel - a lot of Christians feel that way, muslims feel that way, all sorts of people feel that way. I don't know why - it's just the way it is..."

[View From The Top]

With hindsight quotas for the A8 would have been a good idea but business, which Labour snuggled up in bed with, wanted total freedom of movement as it brought in plenty of good, cheap, labour.

 

So our extreme right wing, neo-fascist tory posters, capitalism, in all of its glory, brought us our recent East European immigration flood.

 

Are you suggesting that the markets were wrong? That raw capitalism failed society? Well I never.

[hypochondriac]

Only watched the first 15 minutes before I fell asleep so can't comment on all the comments that were made

 

However I was concerned at the amount of bullying and victimisation that was going on on Griffin , Even Dimbleby was giving him a good kicking.

 

Dimbleby has lost stacks of credibility on handling the chair lastnight.

 

We should allow for free speech and democracy but last nights programme was akin to a bunch of baying wolves salivating over their prey

 

I thought we lived in a civilised society but clearly not. Is it okay to victimise and bully someone because they have differing viewpoints.? Clearly judging by the audience and certain panel members its ok to do so.

 

Oh Im not sticking up for Griffin , but if your going to have a debate have one

not the crap that was served up lastnight

 

It wasn't like that at all. I was actually surprised at how much of a say they gave him.

[hypochondriac]

you are allowed free speech in this country as long as the pro liberals agree with it

 

if the same scenes outside of the BBC building had been caused by the EDL at a hate cleric on the show then I wonder what the reaction would be

 

I agree with that. The protesters were buffoons.

[hypochondriac]

Actually he said

: " I've said that a lot of people find the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy. I understand homosexuals don't understand that - but that's how a lot of us feel - a lot of Christians feel that way, muslims feel that way, all sorts of people feel that way. I don't know why - it's just the way it is..."

 

Creepy is not the word I would use but I think he has a point there.

[.comsaint]

 

Creepy is not the word I would use but I think he has a point there.

 

"Uncomfortable" would be a better choice of word...

[View From The Top]

I agree with that. The protesters were buffoons.

 

I had R5 as I had you go and pick my lad up from Beavers.

 

They had Tony Benn on and he said the same as most of us, that freedom of speech applied to everyone, no matter how odious their views.

 

They then interviewed a couple of protesters and put that point to them and they couldn't understand that by denying freedom of speech you are acting like a fascist party.

 

What really gets on my tits is that the protesters, or the umbrella organisation, is funded by the tax payer.

[Gemmel]

"Uncomfortable" would be a better choice of word...

 

Agreed, "Creepy" sounds like it puts the willies up you.....oh :smt104