Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Bonnie greer has come across very well IMO She always does. A very well versed and educated woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 It's outstanding when a fool is shown up by cold hard scientific fact. I've started to understand why the less-educated would buy into his speech about "White-English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish" being the Aborigines of the British Isles. If you strip away all of the facts that makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 It's outstanding when a fool is shown up by cold hard scientific fact. Which itself is incorrect! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sussex-site-yields-oldest-human-find-in-britain-1436821.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 It's quite simple: everything is tolerated except intolerance. No law should exist unless it protects someone or something from another's excess. Question us liberals ask ourselves is how can we tolerate the intolerence of the BNP? Interesting how tolerence tends to increases with education. (just as crime increases with poverty). Instead of censoring the BNP, we need to tackle the root of the problem, namely illinformed misunderstanding. By all means vote for whoever you wish; if the BNP then recognise that you are voting for a party who represent everything that is wrong with this country. Nobody who is proud of the diverse heritage and hard-fought freedoms of this country would ever consider voting for racist authoritarians. How ironic you choose to brand yourself 'St George' when you so clearly stand against this country. Far from it....I said I'll prolly vote for them, I didn't say i wanted them in Power.....The drift towards a Totalitarian Welfare State needs to be stopped and none of the mainstream parties look like they have what it takes to do it on their own. That means they need a powerful 'Opposition' to get them on track. Britain has become a "Nation of bed wetters"....Handing out more State funded bed pans 'aint gunna fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 An excellent final question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Oh dear. I didn't realise just how .........rubbish, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 He's making a bit of a tit of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 He looks terrified bless him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Nice to see Jack Straw being as wimpy & spineless as ever then... lol - Jacquie Smith next week. Did you know we've all paid for her old man to knock one out via smutty cable channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 meh.... griffin looked trerrified, straw was crap, the libdem was ribbish, the two women were very good.. griffin was out of his depth but I guess, the next election both general and european will if tonight made a difference either way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 And there we have it, the BNP has been given the opportunity of a lifetime and wasted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Well, that was certainly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 She always does. A very well versed and educated woman. My housemate made the good point that she is good because she isn't representing a party and is able to represent herself. The most interesting fact that came out of this was that Jack Straw is an a*se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Which itself is incorrect! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sussex-site-yields-oldest-human-find-in-britain-1436821.html I bet Nick Griffin claims to be a direct descendant ! Mind you, they were talking about post ice-age immigration, on the basis that when Britain was under 1Km of ice, nobody lived here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Still, Question Time followed by TV Burp for me. There's nothing like a cerebral evening's viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Well, did Griffin convince anybody ? no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Harry Hill is more coherent than Nick Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Mind you, Peter Griffin is more coherent than Nick Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Harry Hill is more coherent than Nick Griffin. Benny Hill is more coherent than Nick Griffin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Benny Hill is more coherent than Nick Griffin! Even now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Even now? An even par I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 If anybody watching that is now in support of the BNP, they are truly retarded IMO. I found myself agreeing with him about the nature of the Islamic faith, but it also states in the bible that homosexuals shall be stoned to death. Also made me laugh at how he just shook his head and denied everything, including those points to which they had video evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Well, did Griffin convince anybody ? Convinced me more than Jack Straw did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Britain has become a "Nation of bed wetters"....Handing out more State funded bed pans 'aint gunna fix the problem. is it possible to write anything more meaningless than this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Well he was given enough rope, and he duly hanged himself with it. Not surprising, and very pleasing to see him make a total idiot of himself in front of what was probably QT's biggest ever TV audience. I hope a few people who had previously been suckered by Griffin's veneer of respectability now realise exactly what a small-minded, nasty little bigot he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I though Question Time tonight was quite possibly the most over-hyped non-event of the year so far to be honest. Griffin kinda blew his one big chance in the main & I don't think the BBC will have him back on anytime soon. Much ado about nothing really. I'd be far more interested in what Jaquie Smith has to say next week when questioned on Parliamentary expenses!!! Now that's gonna be a hoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Who is this Saint George character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 If anybody watching that is now in support of the BNP, they are truly retarded IMO. I found myself agreeing with him about the nature of the Islamic faith, but it also states in the bible that homosexuals shall be stoned to death. Also made me laugh at how he just shook his head and denied everything, including those points to which they had video evidence. By and large christianity teaches tolerance and acceptance of others. Whether you believe in the bible of think it's a load of a*se, thats the key difference between the religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I though Question Time tonight was quite possibly the most over-hyped non-event of the year so far to be honest. Griffin kinda blew his one big chance in the main & I don't think the BBC will have him back on anytime soon. Much ado about nothing really. I'd be far more interested in what Jaquie Smith has to say next week when questioned on Parliamentary expenses!!! Now that's gonna be a hoot! Personally I thoroughly enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I found myself agreeing with him about the nature of the Islamic faith. Yeah, he handled his one "planned" answer quite well I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Convinced me more than Jack Straw did. TBF the home secretary joke bit made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Personally I thoroughly enjoyed it. Guess I was expecting more...I dunno - fireworks I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Guess I was expecting more...I dunno - fireworks I guess. I was just relieved that in the main they allowed Nick to speak and didn't shout him down. Just a couple of idiots who shouted at him and called him a disgrace without actually asking anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I was just relieved that in the main they allowed Nick to speak and didn't shout him down. Just a couple of idiots who shouted at him and called him a disgrace without actually asking anything. He certainly got a fair crack of the whip. Glad he was on. I guess people will make up their own minds about the views of the BNP. I find myself agreeing with a little of what they say - but well done to the BBC anyway for sticking to their guns & not bowing to pressure from other Lords/MP's who said he shouldn't appear whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Causer Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Baroness Warsi and Bonnie Greer superb, straw good on attacking the BNP but poor immigration and the Huhne was completely irrlevant and was sidelined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 By and large christianity teaches tolerance and acceptance of others. Whether you believe in the bible of think it's a load of a*se, thats the key difference between the religions. Agreed, but IMO his point about the "vicious nature" of Islam can be nullified by using the same logic. It can be argued that the reason followers of Islam come to the West is because they disagree with the stonings, the beatings - in essence, the vicious nature he referred to. How many honour killings have there been in the UK in the last 10 years? I'm not entirely sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if there hadn't been a single one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 He certainly got a fair crack of the whip. Glad he was on. I guess people will make up their own minds about the views of the BNP. I find myself agreeing with a little of what they say - but well done to the BBC anyway for sticking to their guns & not bowing to pressure from other Lords/MP's who said he shouldn't appear whatever. Couldnt agree more. It's fantastic that the BBC ignored the idiots, a real triumph for democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Loved that last line by greer by the way. It's refreshing to see someone giving the British public credit for once and allowing them to make up their own minds rather than being told what to think and any controversial views airbrushed out as if they don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 How many honour killings have there been in the UK in the last 10 years? I'm not entirely sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if there hadn't been a single one. According to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/honourcrimes/crimesofhonour_2.shtml about twelve a year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 According to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/honourcrimes/crimesofhonour_2.shtml about twelve a year! Fair enough, i've been proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Fair enough, i've been proven wrong. Such a shame that there isn't a party who aren't afraid to air the good points that the BNP have without all the racist rubbish. I'd vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 According to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/honourcrimes/crimesofhonour_2.shtml about twelve a year! Not forgetting this current on-going case of course: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8318370.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 This Week was the usual good bit of knock-about fun, and serious issues, in political chat. Haven't watched in months, but I came back to it this evening as though I'd never been away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Fair enough, i've been proven wrong. In that bit maybe - I suspect that many Muslims came to the UK to get away from a strict following of Islamic law but also quite a few fled from liberal Islamic states because they were being required to conform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I thought Nick handled it quite well. I'll be voting for them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I thought Nick handled it quite well. I'll be voting for them again. You mean he does worse than that usually..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I thought Nick handled it quite well. I'll be voting for them again. You can't be serious?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I thought Nick handled it quite well. I'll be voting for them again. He's a racist, a holocaust denier, an ethnic minority dispiser. Everything about him and his supporters disgusts me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 October, 2009 Share Posted 23 October, 2009 (edited) I thought Nick handled it quite well. I'll be voting for them again. lol! I was surprised that he didn't even seem to be able to convince himself with his answers! He looked so awkward and intimidated by others arguements (sure his hand was really shaking when he took a drink!). -by Bonnie Greer who surely "just walks like a monkey"??? lol of him being told off like a child about his lack of history knowledge by the head of the Bristish Museum (who said she had brought some books along to help him!). Unintelligent racists will still support him - but he would have lost a lot of support. Edited 23 October, 2009 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 October, 2009 Share Posted 23 October, 2009 comments in nationals Adolf Brent ducking questions and greeting discussion of Nazi atrocities with a perfectly punchable half-smile. And of course, Griffin had no answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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