Viking Warrior Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Nope , not worried at all . AP red and white Army I think AP could well turn out to be the next LM or TB. A manager at the club for many years to come.
eurosaint Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Can't see AP leaving for Boro. We are on the up and they are drifting. AP has been given the chance to resurrect a big club back to where it belongs - the premiership. He's working under a cash rich guy who seems to have his head screwed on the right way and seems to have all faith in AP. He'd be mad to switch to Boro. Have you looked at the CCC league table lately : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/table/default.stm They are 4th and only 1 point from the top ! Although I do take your point about us being on the rise, we are still 2nd bottom of a lower div than them ! Goes to show that football truly is a 'funny old game' !!
Window Cleaner Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Have you looked at the CCC league table lately : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/table/default.stm They are 4th and only 1 point from the top ! ! A really strange decision,decided on before their win over Derby apparently. After supporting Southgate for so long Gibson decides to sack him because of a couple of home defeats although their away form was pretty reasonable. Still we should have sacked Burley and didn't so you just never can tell what goes through these chairmans' minds can you.
wightman35 Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 So far, over 50 people have answered "Yes" to the question, then. Yet another strange management decision in terms of timing. I hope and believe that AP will still be here for the long term. Nigel Pearson would be a good choice for 'Borough, as well as giving MM a headache.
Window Cleaner Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 (edited) So far, over 50 people have answered "Yes" to the question, then. Yet another strange management decision in terms of timing. I hope and believe that AP will still be here for the long term. Nigel Pearson would be a good choice for 'Borough, as well as giving MM a headache. Anyway reading through Gibson's explanation on the BBC it would seem that whoever he wants to get is available now but wouldn't be in a short time or wasn't before.Wouldn't be surprised if he gets Roy Keane in.Could be linked to Newcastle I suppose if Ashley doesn't sell the club and appoint Houghton on a permanent basis whoever the "consortium" had lined up may be on the market again. Nothing to do with Pardew though, there are plenty of candidates with a better resumé than his. Edited 21 October, 2009 by Window Cleaner
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Boro is a depressing toilet of a place - quite why anyone would want to work there is beyond me. Is it that different from parts of Scotland ?
Colinjb Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 They couldn't turn Lambert and they will not turn Pards! COYR'S!!!!
Window Cleaner Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 It's Strachan according to Radio 5 Well I hope that goes well for him then, not his biggest fan myself but hey it's Middlesborough so what do I care.
chrisobee Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 It's Strachan according to Radio 5 Been backed into 1/6 with Skybet though something similar happened when we needed a new manager ! Pardew is not even quoted and frankly I'd be amazed if he ever left for a club like Boro.
teamsaint Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 AP would be barking to go to smog town. With our new owner, and our better support,there is every chance we can be bigger than them in a few years time. Plus AP has the chance at Saints to become a club hero. Up there he risks massive failure. Would have thought Strach could do better for himself too.
John B Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Pards is a Saint. No worries from me. Only when it suits him unlike you and me who are in it for life
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 The Middlesbrough story should be a sobering tale to all those who like to issue lectures on the benefits of never sacking a manager as if this policy came with success guaranteed , you're just as likely to err by opting to 'stick' rather than 'twist' it seems . If their Chairman had acted sooner and axed Gareth nice-but-dim Southgate they may well have avoided relegation and the financial disaster that comes with it . As for worrying that they might came after Alan Pardew it seems to me highly unlikely that AP would get or accept any such offer .
the saint in winchester Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 ...and their vacant managers post. Would they be interested in Pardew and if so would Pards realise he's onto a good thing here although it may take him a bit longer to get back into the Prem? Just noticed my poor spelling in the title (early morning) - MODS help out - why is there not an option for a thread owner to not edit titles anyway?) Not in the slightest concerned. He's under contract, doing a good job, appreciated by the directors, players and fans.
jam Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 If Pardew did go (which I don't expect), it would make his comments about players staying here and winning things look a trifle silly.
mcjwills Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 The Middlesbrough story should be a sobering tale to all those who like to issue lectures on the benefits of never sacking a manager as if this policy came with success guaranteed , you're just as likely to err by opting to 'stick' rather than 'twist' it seems . If their Chairman had acted sooner and axed Gareth nice-but-dim Southgate they may well have avoided relegation and the financial disaster that comes with it . As for worrying that they might came after Alan Pardew it seems to me highly unlikely that AP would get or accept any such offer . And of course would NC even allow permission to speak to AP
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 And of course would NC even allow permission to speak to AP Probably not - but when did that ever stop clubs 'taping up' others clubs managers ?
Fowllyd Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Probably not - but when did that ever stop clubs 'taping up' others clubs managers ? This sounds like a pretty vile practice, especially if they use gaffer tape as that's a real bugger to remove from anything.
saintwarwick Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Can't believe some on here would suggest he could be a choice, probably well down in the pecking order which is good news for us. A good topic of discussion though.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 This sounds like a pretty vile practice, especially if they use gaffer tape as that's a real bugger to remove from anything. Are you taking the 'P' out of me
wightman35 Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Are you taking the 'P' out of me Only a small p!
saint lard Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 As of 07.30 this morning i was led to believe Strachan will be installed within 48 hrs as the new manager at Boro.
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Not worried - AP has an opportunity here that not many managers get. Funds, Facilities and that doesn't even start to go down the path of being the manager that got Saints back to the Prem......he could become a Saints legend the same as LM.......but that is a long way away at the mo'. ;-)
Fowllyd Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Are you taking the 'P' out of me I should say not - far be it from me to insult a man with such a fine avatar! (It is Hank, isn't it?)
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 I should say not - far be it from me to insult a man with such a fine avatar! (It is Hank, isn't it?) It sure is .
oggiee Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 I'm not worried about it in the slightest, this is now completely pardews team, the board is happy with him and he is happy with them. While on the subject though, this has to be one of the most ridiculous sackings ever! Lowe would of been proud of that one, low morale after relegation losing key players in Tuncay, Huth, and Downing, and yet they're 4th in the league only 1 point off the champions! Unbelievable, feel very sorry for Southgate.
Fowllyd Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 It sure is . Top stuff. Nobody ever did it quite like Hank, and I doubt anybody ever will.
Professor Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Nothing against WGS who was an excellent appointment by Lowe when people were unsure about him, but who did a good job at Saints and raised the club's profile, but whoever is lined up for the Boro job, I'd like to see them miss promotion, just to show another chairman that changing the manager is not the answer. There are only 3 promotion places and even if all the managers in the CCC are brilliant, only three of them can get promotion.
VectisSaint Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Just wondering if it is some kind of record for a club to have 3 ex-Saints managers on their list of 3 managers favourite to take the job (and none of them the current manager) - WGS, NP and Souness. No mention in the BBC article that any of the 3 are ex-Saints. God, we're good at supplying the League with experienced managers http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/8318553.stm
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Nothing against WGS who was an excellent appointment by Lowe when people were unsure about him, but who did a good job at Saints and raised the club's profile, but whoever is lined up for the Boro job, I'd like to see them miss promotion, just to show another chairman that changing the manager is not the answer. There are only 3 promotion places and even if all the managers in the CCC are brilliant, only three of them can get promotion. Lol so if they do now go up that will mean that change IS the answer to a problem
krissyboy31 Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Nothing against WGS who was an excellent appointment by Lowe when people were unsure about him, but who did a good job at Saints and raised the club's profile, but whoever is lined up for the Boro job, I'd like to see them miss promotion, just to show another chairman that changing the manager is not the answer. There are only 3 promotion places and even if all the managers in the CCC are brilliant, only three of them can get promotion. TBF, Gibson doesn't have a reputation for sacking managers willy-nilly. All of his managers have certainly been given time and money.
doggface Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 (edited) They decided to sack southgate 3 weeks ago, I think wgs is a good shout. They have clearly been interviewing for ages. Very confident pardew is not on the list, if we keep up recent form I'm sure there will be more speculation as jobs come up. Edited 21 October, 2009 by doggface
saintbletch Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 Boro set to name Strachan as boss from the BBC. I thought Southgate's treatment was a bit harsh especially by Steve Gibson's normal standards - who was is danger of losing his über-chairman tag. OK he got them relegated but the decision seems more to do with appeasing the fans who are no longer turning out to watch their team. The BBC mentioned some of the conditions Southgate was working under this morning. Last year, when they were still a Premiership side, he lowered the wage bill by £7M and brought in £25M in transfer revenue. This year he further lowered the wage bill by £10M and still had the team one point from top spot in the Championship. I suppose it's academic if the fans had given up on their team but it does seem a bit harsh. Either way I think Strachan will thrive under a chairman like Gibson. Good luck to him.
greg_hill Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 I do feel a little concerned but I imagine there are several candidates that 'borough would be after and I doubt Pards is one of them. Still, in one sense it's good that we are a little concerned about it - after all, we wouldn't be having this conversation if the Dutch duo were still here would we? :-)
John B Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 ...and their vacant managers post. Would they be interested in Pardew and if so would Pards realise he's onto a good thing here although it may take him a bit longer to get back into the Prem? Just noticed my poor spelling in the title (early morning) - MODS help out - why is there not an option for a thread owner to not edit titles anyway?) Just because Pardew and Saints have won three games on the trot and may that continue it does not mean every Championship club will be after him
sandwichsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 Just wondering if it is some kind of record for a club to have 3 ex-Saints managers on their list of 3 managers favourite to take the job (and none of them the current manager) - WGS, NP and Souness. No mention in the BBC article that any of the 3 are ex-Saints. God, we're good at supplying the League with experienced managers http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/8318553.stm TBF it's probably more a case of monkeys and typewriters, how many ex-Saints managers are there are out there? There must be a dozen either managing elsewhere, or somewhere on the periphary.
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 I am concerned but not by Midlesboro'. West Ham are certain to dispense with Signor Zola in the next week or two as he can't turn it round and the excitement factor of his coming has now waned. He'll go to Chelski as a coach and who will replace him.... ? One, Alan Pardew of course a ****ney lad who will run at the slightest ding of the old Bow Bells. He'll "be flattered" of course to be asked by such a famous old club and their desire for him to return, he will "always have had deep respect and affection for Hammer's fans" and so on and for sure will have "loved his time at Southampton" and "be sad to leave" but "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do..... Realistically for a guy of his age and experience this is a one day one-way ticket back to the Premiership, not a five-year renewable option which he has at the moment. No Brainer!
teamsaint Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 I am concerned but not by Midlesboro'. West Ham are certain to dispense with Signor Zola in the next week or two as he can't turn it round and the excitement factor of his coming has now waned. He'll go to Chelski as a coach and who will replace him.... ? One, Alan Pardew of course a ****ney lad who will run at the slightest ding of the old Bow Bells. He'll "be flattered" of course to be asked by such a famous old club and their desire for him to return, he will "always have had deep respect and affection for Hammer's fans" and so on and for sure will have "loved his time at Southampton" and "be sad to leave" but "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do..... Realistically for a guy of his age and experience this is a one day one-way ticket back to the Premiership, not a five-year renewable option which he has at the moment. No Brainer! er, except that WHU could well melt down financially, and he could well get them relegated. Whereas he can stay here, will have money to spend and will , with any kind of luck, be a hero here in 18 months time. No brainer.
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 Nothing against WGS who was an excellent appointment by Lowe when people were unsure about him, but who did a good job at Saints and raised the club's profile, but whoever is lined up for the Boro job, I'd like to see them miss promotion, just to show another chairman that changing the manager is not the answer. There are only 3 promotion places and even if all the managers in the CCC are brilliant, only three of them can get promotion. What a load of old rubbish. I think appointing Souness instead of Merrington, Ball instead of Branfoot, Strachan instead of Gray show that changing the manager is absolutely the answer. Southgate has had more than a fair crack of the whip and has turned a solid mid-table Prem team into a second tier team. Fantastic. Give him a ten year contract. Changing the manager was the answer for Southampton FC. Or are you one of the "give Marc Wotte three years and he'll turn into Ted Bates" lunatics?
St_Tel49 Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 What a load of old rubbish. I think appointing Souness instead of Merrington, Ball instead of Branfoot, Strachan instead of Gray show that changing the manager is absolutely the answer. Southgate has had more than a fair crack of the whip and has turned a solid mid-table Prem team into a second tier team. Fantastic. Give him a ten year contract. Changing the manager was the answer for Southampton FC. Or are you one of the "give Marc Wotte three years and he'll turn into Ted Bates" lunatics? H'mmm - Souness did no better than Merrington - the team only just survived in the premiership under both and Souness had more resources - so that one does not stand up. Anyone would have been better than Branfoot, ditto Gray. As to the numerous other changes, they were all really successful - weren't they?
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 H'mmm - Souness did no better than Merrington - the team only just survived in the premiership under both and Souness had more resources - so that one does not stand up. Anyone would have been better than Branfoot, ditto Gray. As to the numerous other changes, they were all really successful - weren't they? Anyone would be better than Gareth Southgate. You still pining after Marc Wotte, then?
John B Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 I am concerned but not by Midlesboro'. West Ham are certain to dispense with Signor Zola in the next week or two as he can't turn it round and the excitement factor of his coming has now waned. He'll go to Chelski as a coach and who will replace him.... ? One, Alan Pardew of course a ****ney lad who will run at the slightest ding of the old Bow Bells. He'll "be flattered" of course to be asked by such a famous old club and their desire for him to return, he will "always have had deep respect and affection for Hammer's fans" and so on and for sure will have "loved his time at Southampton" and "be sad to leave" but "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do..... Realistically for a guy of his age and experience this is a one day one-way ticket back to the Premiership, not a five-year renewable option which he has at the moment. No Brainer! But Pardew is not a very good Premiership manager I would have thought
St_Tel49 Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 Anyone would be better than Gareth Southgate. You still pining after Marc Wotte, then? Sorry - your leap in logic has lost me!
captainchris Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 More worried about Liverpool tbf.... No value for him in Boro, his roots are more southern anyway and would expect the Boro job to go to someone more "northern" in outlook... But Benitez's job comes up? hmmm any manager on the planet would look at that one even WITH their offfield troubles Liverpool - Alan Pardew...............come on, that's very funny indeed.....
Jonnyboy Posted 22 October, 2009 Posted 22 October, 2009 Still feel like WGS belongs to us and shouldnt be allowed to manage another team :-(
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