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Listening to all the my fellow Saints fans bleat on about some tosser who got what he was asking for, ought to make me re-consider my loyalties. But it doesn't; i still love you all. Even the Daily Mail reading big girls blouses amongst you.

 

As many have said, it's not the fact there was a fight, which Yeovil were looking for, but that some cowardly sh*t thinks it's acceptable to kick someone in the head whilst they are sparked out.

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Got caught? That is so funny.

 

You do know don't you, that last season a Cardiff supporter almost died after an incident outside one of our pubs, in OUR town. Thank God thaat he recovered. Thank the Lord it hadnt' occured outside the King Alfred? IIRC, it was quite a sober time on this forum. We don't want people getting kicked in the head at our football matches. FFS.

 

Even if you don't want to grass on them, at least tell them to stay away in futire, we don't want any more of that ****, do we?

 

The attack of the Cardiff fan had nothing to do with Saints fans though so I don't see your point.

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Again. Funny how those outraged love to have fond memories of the 'good old days' of the 70s and 80s and have posted as such on here in the past

 

Whose outraged?

 

The fact that there was a fight isn't an issue. It seems clear that some lads from Yeovil went looking for trouble and found it. If they want to be all Danny Dyer then that's their lookout.

 

The issue is kicking someone in the head when they are down.

 

It was a cu*ts trick back in the 80s and it's a cun*s trick now.

 

Like you, it's simple.

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Got caught? That is so funny.

 

You do know don't you, that last season a Cardiff supporter almost died after an incident outside one of our pubs, in OUR town. Thank God thaat he recovered. Thank the Lord it hadnt' occured outside the King Alfred? IIRC, it was quite a sober time on this forum. We don't want people getting kicked in the head at our football matches. FFS.

 

Even if you don't want to grass on them, at least tell them to stay away in futire, we don't want any more of that ****, do we?

 

It had nothing to do with them. Im sure he recovered due to the National Health Service attending to his injuries.

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Again. Funny how those outraged love to have fond memories of the 'good old days' of the 70s and 80s and have posted as such on here in the past

 

You are very very dull. I just thought i'd use up one of my three free posts to let you know. General chat about the old days is fine. Better than reading your holier than thouh garbage!!

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I have it on good authority that the victims ( I use the word victims, because it's obviously a smear campaign ) are still on the run.

 

Good work everyone.

 

Thereby increasing the chances that they'll get banged up when they are inevitably caught? Clever boys.

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Anyone who condones physical violence in form is a ****ing inbred mong, obviously hasn't got a brain, and has got no place at football. It's a game for **** sake. Whether we're talking about now or the 70's and 80's, it's still 22 players kicking a ball around a field. What is the point in violence. Pathetic. Get a ****ing life and have a word with yourself.

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Most be true then. :rolleyes:

 

I can assure you the stamping happened, and that the Yeovil guy was on the deck and not moving, he was no threat at that point to anyone. Off course it takes a really brave and hard man to kick and stamp on a guy in that condition. It was sickening to view and I never want to see it again, if it means the assailant gets a jail term then so be it, he made a decision to carry out the attack where as the Yeovil whatever he did before that was in no position to defend himself.

 

The cctv is pretty good at that point ,so they'll be caught and IMHO anyone who witnessed it should do all they can to assist in making sure its dealt with through the courts and that justice is done whatever the outcome in 'forum' court.

 

The age of the guys involved, they were not youngsters amazed me, perhaps the 'chavs' banging on the stadium arn't so bad?

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Admins,

 

isn't it time that the following rule be changed from:

 

DO NOT post any threads inciting football-related violence or other acts of a criminal nature. Your details may be passed onto the police, including (but not limited to) your e-mail and IP address.

 

To:

 

DO NOT post inciting, or in support of, football-related violence or other acts of a criminal nature. Your details may be passed onto the police, including (but not limited to) your e-mail and IP address.

 

For me there is a very thin line between 'inciting' and 'supporting'...

 

Some of the posters on this thread are either in support of football violence (possibly inciting it in the future?) or else they are desperately trolling for a reaction.

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I think any real Saints fan should not grass on a fellow Saint.

 

This single ill-considered and stupid comment from you has tarnished your reputation so much that it is unlikely that any reasonably intelligent member of this forum will ever take your inputs seriously again or bother to read them. I will not for one.

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This single ill-considered and stupid comment from you has tarnished your reputation so much that it is unlikely that any reasonably intelligent member of this forum will ever take your inputs seriously again or bother to read them. I will not for one.

 

What is ill considered, I am showing loyalty to my fellow Saints fans, people like you should be banned from St Marys, we don't need you.

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What is ill considered, I am showing loyalty to my fellow Saints fans, people like you should be banned from St Marys, we don't need you.

 

Do you know these people from Adam, Stu? Is your loyalty for them just because they might wear a Saints shirt, regardless of the actions they take? That would indeed be an absurd position. Perhaps you defend them because you do recognise them...:confused:

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This took place outside of the ground between two sets of people who happened to support different teams. Other than that it has very little do with football. It did not take place inside the ground. Fights happen in pubs every day of the week for all sorts of different reasons and all too often people do get their heads stamped on. I once had my skull fractured during such an event.

 

IMHO it's about time this thread was locked, it was done to death before it seems in the thread just after the game.

 

Let's get back to talking about football related matters.

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Well that means it did not happen as the general idea is that the echo are full of crap..... Right?

 

 

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The body language of all those decent fans walking by the scene was either one of embarrassment and shame to be wearing the same shirt or ironic and resigned smiles and much head shaking. We don't need these idiots as supporters and if they can use CCTV for number plate recognition they can use it to identify our merry band of mouthy, handbag, wielding louts.

I was one of those guys you're talking about....with headphones on listening to reaction to our first victory.....now minus 2 blah blah blah.....then guy in front of me is on his mobile phone shouting ' its all kicking off, get down ere ' using his one brain cell.

 

As I walked on, another saints fan with huge smile on his face (so excited, saying that the away fan had been given a good kicking' in the head. How nice ! I was gonna ask him how he thought Waigo played, bad time to ask I guess. He was too busy !

 

I then see that fan lying in the road not moving.....He could have been killed by that mob !

 

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Saw a bit of trouble past king alfreds on the stretch of dual carridgeway before the traffic lights. a few yeovil fans (couldn't have been more than 4-5) were being gobby, a punch was thrown and about 20+ of our lot immediately jumped them and it was lambs to the slaughter from then on.

 

One yeovil fan -white shirt, bald head, was left behind and had his head stamped on, serving as kicking practise for passing fans. The OB were nowhere and when they did arrive, dragged some lad who from my vantage point was innocent.

 

All in all, a bit cheap on our part, especially since it was a total mismatch numbers-wise and their lot weren't organised. Just a few strays being gobby which quickly turned into a feeding frenzy. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

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From my point of view as I was walking past the Alfred about 6 yeovil fans already with bloody noses and mouths were climbing over the railing to get away, they then turned and started gobbing off to everyone, especially a young fellow in a green shirt, by this time Saints "fans" had caught up with them and started kicking and punching, one yeovil fan went down and about 3 -4 saints "fans" layed into him kicking his head etc, A couple of the Saints fans ended up cuffed and arrested by the law, the remaining yeovil fans were then escorted by the boys in blue up the road... Why dont they station coppers by the Alfred, it seems to kick of there every game now. is it because the away fans are welcome before the game, and then they go in there after the game when there is a different set of customers looking for the trouble !!

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I saw the trouble up by the crossroads, a guy was being set on by 3 or 4 others, and one fat bloke stamped on his head. The police came up and grabbed the smallest person involved, but let the fat bloke go. A guy in a Saints shirt ran up to the police and pointed out the fat bloke, who was then picked up . I was trying to get my Nipper out of the way, so I may have a few details wrong. The guy did look in a serious condition just laying on the pazement. Later on I spoke to a copper by the Railway Station and he told me there was a lot of trouble all day.

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As I walked outside the ground by the KA I saw around 8 Yeovil fans gesturing and shouting obscenities at the Saints fans from outside the pub. They were being very abusive. When the police turned up(only 2 or 3) by that time the fans outside the pub were raged. I then walked on up Northam Road and I saw one Yeovil fan punch a small Saints fan and at this point the Yeovil fan was jumped and kicked to the ground. Other fans then jumped on his head despite the fact he looked out cold...disgusting. More police then turned up and proceeded to arrest the small Saints fan, despite the fact he was the one who had been punched. I guess something had gone on in the pub before. I thought the KA was a home fans only pub?

 

It was a cheap, c**tish thing to do.

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Here's an idea -

 

Let's set up an arena, behind closed doors, in which all these ****ing idiots can do whatever they like to each other without fear of intervention from the police. Before entering they sign away their rights to NHS treatment or government benefits should they permanently damage themselves.

 

Additionally anyone committing or inciting violence away from this arena is punished severely and chemically castrated. A reward would be tendered to anyone providing information on such transgressions and anyone accusing others of being a "grass" or a "tell-tale" would have their mental age assessed and be given appropriate medical treatment.

 

Modern day evolution.

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Now i'm not exactly well versed in fighting etiquette, but I do find it disturbing that people can not see the line, even when someone is 'looking for it.' Surely knocking these lads to the ground was enough? No? So where is the line then? Self defense excuses the use of reasonable force. Is anyone here really arguing that a group of saints fans stamping on the heads of some 'up for it' Yeovil fans who were laying on the ground, already in a pretty bad way, is reasonable in response to them giving it large in a pub?

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What is ill considered, I am showing loyalty to my fellow Saints fans, people like you should be banned from St Marys, we don't need you.

 

I would back up anyone who supports the Saints, no matter what they did. I don't need to know anything else about them other than that they were born in the catchment area for my favourite football team. They could be head-stampers, drug dealers, students, mass-murderers, granny-rapers, child abusers - I wouldn't grass them up. Everyone who supports my football team is great.

 

However, if you disagree with me on an internet forum then you've crossed the line and we don't need you at St Marys.

 

Spade-faced simpleton.

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I would back up anyone who supports the Saints, no matter what they did. I don't need to know anything else about them other than that they were born in the catchment area for my favourite football team. They could be head-stampers, drug dealers, students, mass-murderers, granny-rapers, child abusers - I wouldn't grass them up. Everyone who supports my football team is great.

 

However, if you disagree with me on an internet forum then you've crossed the line and we don't need you at St Marys.

 

Spade-faced simpleton.

 

As long as they aren't students and don't wear face paint. ;)

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It is not an opinion, it is a code of conduct that ought to be followed by any sensible, intelligent citizen that wishes to live in a well-ordered and civilised society.

 

If caught, those so-called fans, (who I would prefer to call yobs) will get everything they deserve. If they end up in the nick, lose their jobs and are banned from football, it bloody well serves them right. If banned, we'll be well rid of them too.

 

I have never had a fight in a pub, but the way that you speak, I feel sure that you have.

 

With luck, these people who you are attempting to defend, are actually not really proper Saints fans, but are using us as an excuse for a punch-up. There seems to be a growing trend towards this currently and it needs to be nipped in the bud before it spreads. I would have not the slightest qualms about "shopping" anybody who acts in this way. They certainly wouldn't be friends of mine, so quite why I should have any sympathy or compassion for them just because they might be wearing a Saints shirt is beyond me.

Brilliant post Wes and echos my thoughts entirely. What constitutes 'a bit of a slap ' is debatable but it surely is not viciously beaten and kicked and stamped repeatedly whilst laying on the ground. Shocking and shows that in places football has only papered over the cracks of the 70 's and 80's.

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Unless that's their actual faces' date=' then it'd be preeettttyyy easy.[/quote']

 

No it wouldn't because they would be the only two men in the world with actual silly putty/ Microsoft Paint faces and would be easily recognisable as the only two men in the world with silly putty/ Microsoft Paint faces!!

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I have it on good authority that the victims ( I use the word victims, because it's obviously a smear campaign ) are still on the run.

 

Good work everyone.

 

That's really good news. I hope they're scared spitless and that they remember forever what that feels like.

 

Perhaps the next bunch of gutless morons will think twice before kicking people in the head while they're on the ground.

 

It blows me away that some people would be happy to look the other way and leave the reputation of our club in the hands of such neanderthal halfwits.

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That's really good news. I hope they're scared spitless and that they remember forever what that feels like.

 

Perhaps the next bunch of gutless morons will think twice before kicking people in the head while they're on the ground.

 

It blows me away that some people would be happy to look the other way and leave the reputation of our club in the hands of such neanderthal halfwits.

if the police have not got aty least 1 of these by now they must be inept....
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Not sure if the original Echo article included this (as the article doesnt seem to be available anymore?!) but just noticed this line in the article on the yeovil news site;

 

This has left the victims terrified at the severity of this unprovoked attack.

 

This was found here http://www.yeovilexpress.co.uk/news/yeovil_news/4696987.Football_hooligans_sought_following_Yeovil_Town_match_at_Southampton/

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Here's an idea -

 

Let's set up an arena, behind closed doors, in which all these ****ing idiots can do whatever they like to each other without fear of intervention from the police.

 

But isn't that what those 'organised' football hooligans try and do but the police do intervene and use taxpayers money on intelligence to prevent the very thing from happening.

I accept that innocents can get caught up subject to location but if they were allowed to go to a said field and smash each other what is the problem ?

I remember watching a video clip(eastern europe ?) where 2 sets of rival fans met up for this very thing and present were security that would pull those away that had been knocked out etc....so in the absence of success in ridding our game of this element could this be the way forward ?

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...but if they were allowed to go to a said field and smash each other what is the problem ?

I remember watching a video clip(eastern europe ?) where 2 sets of rival fans met up for this very thing and present were security that would pull those away that had been knocked out etc....so in the absence of success in ridding our game of this element could this be the way forward ?

 

Something like this happens perfectly legitimately.

 

It's called Rugby. ;)

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It is not an opinion, it is a code of conduct that ought to be followed by any sensible, intelligent citizen that wishes to live in a well-ordered and civilised society.

 

If caught, those so-called fans, (who I would prefer to call yobs) will get everything they deserve. If they end up in the nick, lose their jobs and are banned from football, it bloody well serves them right. If banned, we'll be well rid of them too.

 

I have never had a fight in a pub, but the way that you speak, I feel sure that you have.

 

With luck, these people who you are attempting to defend, are actually not really proper Saints fans, but are using us as an excuse for a punch-up. There seems to be a growing trend towards this currently and it needs to be nipped in the bud before it spreads. I would have not the slightest qualms about "shopping" anybody who acts in this way. They certainly wouldn't be friends of mine, so quite why I should have any sympathy or compassion for them just because they might be wearing a Saints shirt is beyond me.

 

Well thought out post

 

Anybody that thinks it is acceptable to defend a mindless thug that has kicked another human being in the head just because he wears a Saints shirt is just ludicrous, as has been said by others where does it stop. Where do they draw the line. Is it acceptable for this so called saints fan to nick your wallet, nick your car, rob your house, knife your mate, rape your girlfriend, fiddle with your children, Have I reached the line yet well they are saints fans, ok let go for gold how about when they turn up with a gun and shoot the opposition fans because they are real hard, come on they were a bit gobby and they did deserve it. But we wont grass the murderer because he is a saints fan, have i reached the line YET.

 

I'm sorry it is not giving a "slap", I was given a so called "slap" a few years ago because some mindless thug thought I had looked at him in the pub, and in his inebriated state he thought it was ok, he didn't care that i had just got out of hospital after having major heart surgery 3 weeks earlier, but SRS it was OK I must have deserved it because he was a saints fan and the tw*ts on here would not have grassed him up. Any thug that gives another human being a slap just because supports another team deserves his jail sentence football banning order, loss of job and all the associated problems that happens with the jail sentence be he a saints fan, yeovil fan or fan of any club.

 

I hope they catch the thugs involved and put them away for a long time. I certainly do not want togo back to the days when people were afraid of taking their children to football, I am looking in a few years time to taking my grandson to football, and do not want us to go back to having a reputation of a "good club for a scrap with" and so bringing the undesirables that think it acceptable to give a "slap" to any person wearing a football shirt that does not match theirs.

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I know some people on here are on a wind-up and I shouldn't encourage tham but, in case anyone is seriously thinking we shouldn't 'grass' on these people, here's my 2 cents worth.

 

If I had witnessed an assault and could identify any of those involved I would go to the police with that information. If the people accused of the assault can demonstrate to the police, or failing that to the court, that what they did was self-defence then good luck to them. The point is that the police should be helped to compile any evidence, the PCS should decide whether there is enough evidence to prosecute and the courts should decide whether or not the suspects are guilty.

 

And, if so, they should lockthem up!

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I have it on good authority that the victims ( I use the word victims, because it's obviously a smear campaign ) are still on the run.

 

Good work everyone.

 

Given the fact that the plod were using recognition cameras beforethe Gillingham game and pulling quite a few because of the Yeovil incident.

To be honest the old bill know exactly who the fella is and he will be pulled on Sat if not before.

Rather them than me.

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Brilliant post Wes and echos my thoughts entirely. What constitutes 'a bit of a slap ' is debatable but it surely is not viciously beaten and kicked and stamped repeatedly whilst laying on the ground. Shocking and shows that in places football has only papered over the cracks of the 70 's and 80's.

 

agree 100%

 

makes me wonder where this "dont grass on a fellow saints fan" would end. A stabbing maybe? What if a saints fan had done something to someone close to you? Opinion would drastically change me thinks.

 

(not you 19c, more those that have the belief that you should grass on a saints fan)

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I've little sympathy for the Yeovil fans that went looking for trouble and found it.

 

I do, however, believe only a class 1 c*** would kick a man when he's down.

I have never understood this belief of gentlemanly fighting.

If you go into battle with an opponent then the job is to immobilise him as quick as you can and with any means in which to do it BEFORE your opponent does the same to you????

Am I not right?

There is no honour to be gained in fighting the Marquis of Queensbury rules outside the King Alfred.

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I have never understood this belief of gentlemanly fighting.

If you go into battle with an opponent then the job is to immobilise him as quick as you can and with any means in which to do it BEFORE your opponent does the same to you????

Am I not right?

There is no honour to be gained in fighting the Marquis of Queensbury rules outside the King Alfred.

 

 

you sir, are a scoundrel

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