INFLUENCED.COM Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 . Me personally i would much rather talk to our opponents fans and have a friendly banter with them then kick their heads in. Typo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Does the fella pictured post on here? Also, I bet he didn't think his photo would be on the Beeb website when he woke up this morning. I wonder what his job is, maybe a copper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Ha that's funny! St Marco's typo I mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Ha that's funny! St Marco's typo I mean! It took me ten minutes to realise what was wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I was there, was certainly not involved. I can confirm Yeovil fans started the trouble (verbally and physically) and were told on several ocassions by home supporters and police to walk away. Not saying it is on, but that very grown man who was 38 and took a kicking smacked a Saints fan first. I was there walking up Northam Road and saw it with my very own eyes. This doesn't excuse people to kick him in the head, but he was the main culprit. Therefore, it would be injustice to willy nilly hand out banning orders or jail sentences for this crime against Yeovil alone. If I was to act in that manner (not saying the retaliation is right), but I would expect others whether pub, football, cricket whatever to react. He punched a saints fan in the face walking up the road FFS. Anyway, not getting involved in this. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I think any real Saints fan should not grass on a fellow Saint. So - if you saw someone in a Saints shirt commit a brutal, unprovoked assault you would say nothing! That says everything about the mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 (edited) I expect the Yeovil fan who got a good kicking was the same muppet who was giving it large outside the Alfred - in which case he deserved it. It would be harsh for some Saints fan to get banged up for giving some guy the fight he wanted - and for that reason I agree with Romsey Saint, on this occasion don't tell tales. Edited 21 October, 2009 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Attack Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Fight Fight Fight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 So - if you saw someone in a Saints shirt commit a brutal, unprovoked assault you would say nothing! That says everything about the mentality. See post #78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 See post #78 Fair enough - he succeeded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I dont want to see fans fighting but you have to accept that if the accounts are correct you had fans with the same mentality meeting up. It is ok for the intelligensia on here making judgements but the Yeovil fans may not be that bright to go into a major city give it the big one and not expect a confrontation.I would never walk into a city/town suberbs pub and start giving it large. You will always come off worse. As for we were known as a family club Lol, what a load of bolox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Wasn't it the Human Rights legislation which prevented people being kept behind at the end of games ? Nope, just Football Club personnel not understanding it. There is nothing in the HRA which in any way prevents people being kept in for a while after a match to prevent trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I expect the Yeovil fan who got a good kicking was the same muppet who was giving it large outside the Alfred - in which case he deserved it. It would be harsh for some Saints fan to get banged up for giving some guy the fight he wanted - and for that reason I agree with Romsey Saint, on this occasion don't tell tales. He might have deserved it but that still doesn't excuse violence because we all know that police/media etc over react to any sort of football violence and it affects all of us. It does seem a bit silly to 'tell on' other fans for having a bit of a scrap but they're still idiots and need to be prevented from causing any more trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 It took me ten minutes to realise what was wrong! I still can't figure out which bit is wrong and i wrote it! Grammar is most defiantly not my best attribute. Especially while writing it on a phone! But it could be worse. But not by much So what was wrong? Because if i don't know it will bug me to the point of total buggedness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I still can't figure out which bit is wrong and i wrote it! Grammar is most defiantly not my best attribute. Especially while writing it on a phone! But it could be worse. But not by much So what was wrong? Because if i don't know it will bug me to the point of total buggedness! You should have said "and have a friendly banter with them rather than kick their heads in". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Think 'then' was actually used instead of 'rather thAn' ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 If it was down to me, I'd be dishing out warnings or bans to anyone on this forum who condones any sort of football violence. FWIW I saw pretty much the same as Fitzhugh Fella as I was crossing the road outside the Alfred. One of the Yeovil fans who'd got over the fence was hauled back in by someone who had him on a headlock. I also noticed the policemen who seemed in no hurry to get to the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 May i add, there is no excuse for stamping or kicking a defencless prone body and that is just cowardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Lot of self-righteous types on here today aren't there? If it is self-righteous to think that street fighting doesn't belong to Saints in specific and football and society in general, then I must be big-time self-righteous. I can imagine times when it is time to hit back against those who exploit us badly enough, but that has never in my mind included a couple of blokes from Yeovil (of all the places in the world...) bigging themselves up after losing against us. Join a trade union; demonstrate against society; become a revolutionary socialist to fight a class war; or whatever you feel will will improve life for you, your family, and those in the same situation as yourself. It can all make a lot of sense if you feel an excess of energy and want to do something in some kind of noble cause. I might even consider not grassing on somebody who have done something illegal in such circumstances. But beating up Yeovil fans??? "Slapping" people for supporting the 'wrong' team or for being a bit uppity? How on earth have we ended up here?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 You should have said "and have a friendly banter with them rather than kick their heads in". Ah i seeee Maybe i meant have a chat with them, then kick their heads in Get them into a false sense of security! Of course i don't really mean that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 If it was down to me, I'd be dishing out warnings or bans to anyone on this forum who condones any sort of football violence. Thankfully it's not but I'm sure you'll be writing a strongly worded letter to The Telegraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 May i add, there is no excuse for stamping or kicking a defencless prone body and that is just cowardly. I'm glad that you chose to add that Nick. That was apparently the line that was crossed with one of those Yeovil fans and as you say, there really is no excuse that justifies that behaviour. The repercussions could have been very severe both for the victim and his attacker, in that the victim might have died or suffered brain damage and the perpetrator could have therefore justifiably been imprisoned, with the resultant grief that would have ensued for both of their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 The repercussions could have been very severe both for the victim and his attacker, in that the victim might have died or suffered brain damage and the perpetrator could have therefore justifiably been imprisoned, with the resultant grief that would have ensued for both of their families. tbf Wes this can be the end result of any act of violence, I accept the likely hood will increase when stomping and kicking but a single blow can create the same, if only we all had the mindset to consider that before the rush of blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon 84 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Well people are allowed their opinions, mine is not to grass on a Saints fan who gave a couple of gobby Yeovil fans a slap... These Saints fans could be looking at jail if convicted as I am pretty sure everyone will agree that a few months in prison, loss of job and banned from football for 3 years is pretty harsh for dishing out a slap to someone on the way home from football. No different to having a fight in a pub, I am sure many of you model citizens have done it before... difference is the punishments are massively different. Once again, don't grass on Saints fans. Listen stu, don't get these happy clappers started ffs, they aint got a clue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Listen stu, don't get these happy clappers started ffs, they aint got a clue.. So let's hear what you have to say on the subject then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Just remove Britains stupid gun laws..that'll solve the problem overnight. Amazing how much the desire to "give some one a slap" is reduced when that 'someone could well be packing a 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Half these c**ts who go around slapping loudmouth bumpkins from minor football teams suffer from pompey envy which is not too different from penis envy. In their world, they live in the shadow of a firm that's bigger and 'arder than them. Surprised if any of them were quite so vocal when Millwall came down or will act the big men for the impending visit of Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Just remove Britains stupid gun laws..that'll solve the problem overnight. Amazing how much the desire to "give some one a slap" is reduced when that 'someone could well be packing a 9mm You really couldn't be more of a moron if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Just remove Britains stupid gun laws..that'll solve the problem overnight. Amazing how much the desire to "give some one a slap" is reduced when that 'someone could well be packing a 9mm Brilliant, give someone the power to end someone else's life with one squeeze of a finger from yards away. You don't solve a problem by escalating it's consequences! Could you imagine what it would be like if you had hoolies 'tooled up' i'm sure that mockney geezer Guy Richie would be able to make another crap film out of that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I think any real Saints fan should not grass on a fellow Saint. Been scraping them knuckles again Stuey!:smt023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Been scraping them knuckles again Stuey!:smt023 no chance - he's (they're) not that evolved yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 No he's right, the USA has almost no violent crime and innocent people never get shot. St George is a genius, USA is heaven on Earth, that's why it's recognised by the UN as the best country in the world to live in. Oh no, wait a minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 You really couldn't be more of a moron if you tried. yeah yeah yeah ....You got a B side to that broken record of yours? Heh.....dishing out insults on teh internets, sooo spotty juvenile.......Bet you stand behind the Old Bill at SMS and scream insults at the away fans too, dontcha Silly Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 yeah yeah yeah ....You got a B side to that broken record of yours? Heh.....dishing out insults on teh internets, sooo spotty juvenile.......Bet you stand behind the Old Bill at SMS and scream insults at the away fans too, dontcha Silly Boy Old record, but a good one. You're a moron. A complete and utter loon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 It seems some people think that stamping on another person's head is acceptable as long as the attacker is a Saints fan and the victim is a bit of a ****. I'll happily be labelled a do-gooder/happy clapper/self-righteous/pussy/wimp or whatever by the interent tough guys on here for finding that shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Thankfully it's not but I'm sure you'll be writing a strongly worded letter to The Telegraph. Is there a connection between finding football related violence distasteful and the Telegraph then? I don't see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Firstly - Ive NEVER been in a fight, im too much of a weed for that sort of shananigans. but.... 1) "Police say a gang kicked and punched the victims to the ground, where they were then repeatedly kicked and stamped on." Did they just stand by and watch. If they were there to see it unfold, why didnt they step in? 2) Ill help do the Police's job for them.....if they come and help me do my job tomorow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 yeah yeah yeah ....You got a B side to that broken record of yours? Heh.....dishing out insults on teh internets, sooo spotty juvenile.......Bet you stand behind the Old Bill at SMS and scream insults at the away fans too, dontcha Silly Boy It is you that is the silly irresponsible person I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 It is you that is the silly irresponsible person I would have thought No, no, no. Pulling a 9mm and shooting someone is perfectly acceptable in the rather strange world that St George inhabits. He also belives that the current presidents of the USofA is a commie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I sit in block 42 and go to every away game and I love the banter between fans during the game, it's always a good laugh and harmless when in the stadium. The problem with these people is they seem unable to seperate this banter within football grounds from squaring up to a bloke in the street. In my opinion banter and shouting 'abuse' at the opposition fans within the stadium is fine in itself, it doesn't hurt anyone. It's just these mindless idiots who continue it when they get out of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 A number of these fans deserve to get nicked for simply starting on away fans for no reason. Rumour has it that they have around 40 banning orders lined up and have simply been gaining evidence. Where did you hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 You haven't seen me.....right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Matey in the middle should have worn a mask made on Microsoft Paint like the other two, then he won't be caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 "From the sound of it..." So you seriously think a group of 30/40 somethings decided to batter 2 lone innocent Yoevil fans quietly making their way home yeah? They were part of a group of 8-10 Yoevil fans in the King Alfred who goaded Saints fans with insults and got the trouble they were looking for, the fight spilled onto the street and the 2 injured were constantly told to walk away but they (bravely or stupidly) kept coming back for more trouble. Check your facts first. The Facts are Saints won the football match.... thats all we should be talking about! you need to grow up son and go to football for the enjoyment and love of the game. All this childish drival regarding being goaded and such forth. Go to Football for the love of the game - not for the afters. I think i would find it easier to excuse the antics if they had been carried out by some mis lead youth but I would though one of them was certainly old enough to know a lot better - we need these people to be banned for a minimum of three years if not longer. We need theclub to be strong on this issue as we are only storing up trouble for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA77 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I am the best dressed lad in Southampton thankyou very much. I am having half a season off the football actually, so it wasnt me, although I do need a haircut. By the way, Burberry is sooooo like out of fashion, get with it... tsk Part of the proper casual scene is to wear new gear. "fashion" is not part of that. Fashion is another word for sheep that copy eachother. You have to laugh at the idiots that think they look cool in their ill fitting stone island rubbish. some of the trainers these so called "casuals" of today wear are awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 He might have deserved it but that still doesn't excuse violence because we all know that police/media etc over react to any sort of football violence and it affects all of us. It does seem a bit silly to 'tell on' other fans for having a bit of a scrap but they're still idiots and need to be prevented from causing any more trouble. I agree they are brainless morons, but so were the Yeovil thugs who got their heads kicked in so it's a bit of a non issue for me. It's a bit hypocritical of the old bill to just stand there watching outside the Alfred, then do nothing to stop it kicking off further up the road (which was quite obvious what was going to happen) and now act like it's a big deal from the safety of their office. A bunch of inept cowards IMO. I've followed Saints and England home and away for years and it is so so easy to avoid trouble, those Yeovil fans were just idiots and would have got a kicking acting like that anywhere in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Well people are allowed their opinions, mine is not to grass on a Saints fan who gave a couple of gobby Yeovil fans a slap... These Saints fans could be looking at jail if convicted as I am pretty sure everyone will agree that a few months in prison, loss of job and banned from football for 3 years is pretty harsh for dishing out a slap to someone on the way home from football. No different to having a fight in a pub, I am sure many of you model citizens have done it before... difference is the punishments are massively different. Once again, don't grass on Saints fans. maybe it is a harsh punishment but the choice is simple; don;t behave like a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 There was a thread about the behaviour of, and the 'slapping' of, the Yeovil fans posted on here after the said game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 saints support in general is full of soft weedy geography teacher types so I for one am grateful we at least have a few fans who can stand up for themselves when away teams come to town and throw their weight around. From what I heard on the day the Yeovil group were the ones who kicked off in the pub and once outside kept coming back for more, it sounds like a couple got caught and that is unfortunate, but this should not be made out to be a completely unprovoked bullying attack Don't try to justify it, try dealing with the facts, not rumur, it is a simple case of 8 tw*ts picking a fight with 2 lads. Umm the odds seem slightly stacked against the victims don't you think...by the way don't bother to answer that last part as it was a rhetorical question (look it up) as you clearly don't..think that is. I for one will be taking a picture of that fat twa* in the blue tight fitting shirt and pray I spot him first as i'll have no hesitation in reporting him to the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 How it was at the time: http://saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16744&highlight=Yeovil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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