oldsarum Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 I think the matchday pricing is hindering "casual" attendance. Quite rightly season ticket holders got a good package this season, with the single Adult average of about £15 per game. As someone who can only attend a few games (as Im so lucky to work in retail!) the matchday price of £22 or £25 depending on where you sit is a little steep.It hasnt stopped me attending a couple of games so far, and nor will it, but Im sure its a big reason for others. If it was £19 or £20 I think pschologically more people would find that affordable. Only minor criticism of the new regime so far!! We have over 11,000 and the average no of Saints fans at home games must be around 17,000 so 6,000 per game are paying the £22 or £25. There have been massive queues for tickets on matchdays for most of the games this season so I don't think its putting people off at all, even for the Torquay game; when tickets were £5 more than they were prior to matchday, there were loads of people buying tickets just prior to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Might be right? Id imagine Wimbledon will bring a few fans as its not too far. Cant let that one slip under the radar. AFC Wimbledon are at Crawley Town in the last qualifying round of the FA Cup on Saturday. The Milton Keynes franchise team are at St Marys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 (edited) Cant let that one slip under the radar. AFC Wimbledon are at Crawley Town in the last qualifying round of the FA Cup on Saturday. The Milton Keynes franchise team are at St Marys. Good point, although MK is only 81 miles from Southampton...not that far really. :cool: Although driving distance is actually 112 miles - not sure what that's all about... ****ing internet... Edited 19 October, 2009 by Charlie2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 I think the matchday pricing is hindering "casual" attendance. Quite rightly season ticket holders got a good package this season, with the single Adult average of about £15 per game. As someone who can only attend a few games (as Im so lucky to work in retail!) the matchday price of £22 or £25 depending on where you sit is a little steep.It hasnt stopped me attending a couple of games so far, and nor will it, but Im sure its a big reason for others. If it was £19 or £20 I think pschologically more people would find that affordable. Only minor criticism of the new regime so far!! I dont think prices are hindering our fans anymore than anyone else, £20 a head at L/Orient, £19 (£20 on day) at Oldham, £22 at Southend, at grounds that to be honest are not up to St.Mary's standard. Our prices are really no worse than most teams in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Cant let that one slip under the radar. AFC Wimbledon are at Crawley Town in the last qualifying round of the FA Cup on Saturday. The Milton Keynes franchise team are at St Marys. Am I the only one that thinks Franchise FC should get a fair bit of stick for how their "club" came into being? Few choice songs from the Northam perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 That's what I was thinking Mr Mash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Am I the only one that thinks Franchise FC should get a fair bit of stick for how their "club" came into being? Few choice songs from the Northam perhaps? Don't you think it's a bit late for that? Just because it's our first league game against them (and they have played at St Mary's in the cup), they have been going more than 5 years now (and Wimbledon have been given all of their trophies and memorabilia back). Give them stick by all means but it won't be original. They will have heard it all before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Don't you think it's a bit late for that? Just because it's our first league game against them (and they have played at St Mary's in the cup), they have been going more than 5 years now (and Wimbledon have been given all of their trophies and memorabilia back). Give them stick by all means but it won't be original. They will have heard it all before. who are yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Is it just me that doesn't find the 19k thing that annoying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 I don't know why, but MK Dons have only been given 550 tickets for the match Needless to say, they've sold out Not sure if they will be asking for more Their average away following last season was just 624 so can't see them needing many more than 550 Ours was 1186.8 - pretty poor for the Championship, but it was a dreadful year and we aren't exactly central. It will be interesting to see if that goes up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 We have over 11,000 and the average no of Saints fans at home games must be around 17,000 so 6,000 per game are paying the £22 or £25. There have been massive queues for tickets on matchdays for most of the games this season so I don't think its putting people off at all, even for the Torquay game; when tickets were £5 more than they were prior to matchday, there were loads of people buying tickets just prior to the game. I dont think prices are hindering our fans anymore than anyone else, £20 a head at L/Orient, £19 (£20 on day) at Oldham, £22 at Southend, at grounds that to be honest are not up to St.Mary's standard. Our prices are really no worse than most teams in this league. I think you both miss the point.......sure 6k or so are paying but if you want another 4-5k minimum in the stadium I think the club needs to drop the price. As for our prices being worse, again thats not the issue its about attracting more fans into the ground. Its easy to get 10-12k (or whatever the figures are) at Orient, Oldham, Suthend etc, etc but getting 25k plus in League One from a supporter base that needs re-building, the prices need to encourage that. The "base" is now about 15-16k and will grow, how quickly it does that is down to mainly pricing imho. Even "special offers" for the casual supporter would help....e.g. buy 2 games and get one half price...thus meaning an outlay of £55 instead of £66. There are many different ways of marketing the tickets ( and not really effecting the "value" of a season ticket), but we'll see!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrasri Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 In the same way as England is near Scotland, yes. well it is at the top end!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 If we ever do get back to the EPL one day I think the 15-20k fans who have stuck by this club through thick and thin (mostly thin) should have their loyalty recognised in some way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Nice campaign pity it's 12 months to late. No offence but some of our fans have the logic of postal workers. or Adam Crozier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 I think you both miss the point.......sure 6k or so are paying but if you want another 4-5k minimum in the stadium I think the club needs to drop the price. As for our prices being worse, again thats not the issue its about attracting more fans into the ground. Its easy to get 10-12k (or whatever the figures are) at Orient, Oldham, Suthend etc, etc but getting 25k plus in League One from a supporter base that needs re-building, the prices need to encourage that. The "base" is now about 15-16k and will grow, how quickly it does that is down to mainly pricing imho. Even "special offers" for the casual supporter would help....e.g. buy 2 games and get one half price...thus meaning an outlay of £55 instead of £66. There are many different ways of marketing the tickets ( and not really effecting the "value" of a season ticket), but we'll see!! Nothing to do with pricing. People will use it as an excuse but if Saints were top of the league then we would be getting 25,000 +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 football in England is expensive. You have to buy carefully if you want any chance of decent value. Even at full price a ST at SMS represents fair value . Tickets have always been more expensive in the south, and STs at conference clubs are close to ours in price. And a matchday ticket in the Chapel is £19,(£10 for under 21). adult and child the same. Now I like cheap tix as much as the next man, but in truth they have never been better value at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 or Adam Crozier This is a man my wife told me was a Scottish sports presenter when she saw him out walking his dog... I went through every Scottish presenter I know before she finally said: "That was him, Adam Crozier..." Bloody woman! Nice dog though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 ...to boost the gate past that annoying 19 thousand - we keep getting. (I'd come myself if I could, but there must be some others who live closer to SMS than central Stockholm !) May I suggest Ryanair who fly from two airports in the Stockholm area? http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 Is it just me that doesn't find the 19k thing that annoying? Not at all. I think in the past when we were strapped for cash it was important, but its just a number. When we get just over 20000, someone will say, Wanted 1000 fans so we can get over 21000. Don't get me wrong I prefer it when the ground is full or nearly so, but wanting an extra 1000 fans seems a bit odd to me. What we actually need is about another 13000 so the ground is really rocking. Anyway we could easily get another 1000 by giving tickets to kids, or kids for a quid promotions, but quite honestly while I want more kids to come to games, it does bugger all to make the atmosphere better having a load of little nippers running round knowing next to nothing about what is going on with their Manure, Arse, Chelski or Scouse shirts on under their coats If we continue to be successful the crowds will return, I would think 24/25k would be achievable in this division if we are winning regularly or at least playing good exciting football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2009 May I suggest Ryanair who fly from two airports in the Stockholm area? http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/[/url] well thanks for the thought Len, BUT we know about those, too! Västerås and Nyköping Both are around 1½ hours travel time from me, and whatever you may think of Ryanair in the UK..in Sweden they are always getting bad press. Beside they fly to Stansted..and thats a longer journey into London before you get the bus from Victoria to So'ton. We've tried all that before. However, what I didn't mention was that I already have other arrangements for Saturday, though i do hope we can do the trip at sometime in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 However, what I didn't mention was that I already have other arrangements for Saturday, though i do hope we can do the trip at sometime in the near future. How can you have 'other arrangements' on a Saturday when Saints are playing? You should be telling the 'other arrangementees' that you have other arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 How can you have 'other arrangements' on a Saturday when Saints are playing? You should be telling the 'other arrangementees' that you have other arrangements. David would have made a good WW1 general - leading from the rear. Only joking David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 I think the matchday pricing is hindering "casual" attendance. Quite rightly season ticket holders got a good package this season, with the single Adult average of about £15 per game. As someone who can only attend a few games (as Im so lucky to work in retail!) the matchday price of £22 or £25 depending on where you sit is a little steep.It hasnt stopped me attending a couple of games so far, and nor will it, but Im sure its a big reason for others. If it was £19 or £20 I think pschologically more people would find that affordable. Only minor criticism of the new regime so far!! Thats a very fair point. As a season ticket holder i got a good deal, but the match day price is too high. As for Saturday i predict a crowd of 20,123. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 19 October, 2009 Share Posted 19 October, 2009 I think the matchday pricing is hindering "casual" attendance. Quite rightly season ticket holders got a good package this season, with the single Adult average of about £15 per game. As someone who can only attend a few games (as Im so lucky to work in retail!) the matchday price of £22 or £25 depending on where you sit is a little steep.It hasnt stopped me attending a couple of games so far, and nor will it, but Im sure its a big reason for others. If it was £19 or £20 I think pschologically more people would find that affordable. Only minor criticism of the new regime so far!! It is only £19 for a ticket in the Chapel, a fact that the club has not really highlighted. I only found out when the dozy girl in the ticket office sold me 2 tickets in there when I asked for tickets in the Itchen, towards the Chapel end. I have been back in there for two other home games already. I prefer the noise of the Northam myself, but my old man has been coming again recently after a little encouragment (he had defected to Aldershot during the Lowe regime). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 October, 2009 David would have made a good WW1 general - leading from the rear. Only joking David. No offence Len, though I can promise you I am there in spirit..and any other on-line facility I can access. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 We are a Division lower and averaging 1,400 more than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 well thanks for the thought Len, BUT we know about those, too! Västerås and Nyköping Both are around 1½ hours travel time from me, and whatever you may think of Ryanair in the UK..in Sweden they are always getting bad press. Beside they fly to Stansted..and thats a longer journey into London before you get the bus from Victoria to So'ton. We've tried all that before. However, what I didn't mention was that I already have other arrangements for Saturday, though i do hope we can do the trip at sometime in the near future. Fortunately for me, Norwegian.com opened a flight from Aalborg to Gatwick with cheap tickets - return tickets on the cheapest days are around £70 all included. From Gatwick to Southampton it's not too bad by train... Now if only I wasn't working on that masters thesis :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 or Adam Crozier or Peter Mandleson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 We are a Division lower and averaging 1,400 more than last season. :smt046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 Hmmm, Flybe Geneva - Southampton... Can't really afford it, but let's see towards the end of the season, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 I know someone who is returning for their 1st time in a year on saturday..... Arnt they? - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 Don't you think it's a bit late for that? Just because it's our first league game against them (and they have played at St Mary's in the cup), they have been going more than 5 years now (and Wimbledon have been given all of their trophies and memorabilia back). Give them stick by all means but it won't be original. They will have heard it all before. Yeah, good point, I hadn't thought of that, as most of the abuse given out by the Northam is usually original and bang up to date isn't it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 20 October, 2009 Share Posted 20 October, 2009 Yeah, good point, I hadn't thought of that, as most of the abuse given out by the Northam is usually original and bang up to date isn't it...... No you're right. Nothing original, nothing current, nothing witty. In fact nothing much of value at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 October, 2009 Nothing to do with pricing. People will use it as an excuse but if Saints were top of the league then we would be getting 25,000 +. There's always an element of that. In our Div.1 ( later Prem.) days BEFORE the all-seater Dell, we struggled a lot but whenever we had a good run, these " strangers " would suddenly turn up on the terraces with their red/white scarves and get names wrong, shout at the wrong players and moan at the team - as if they were the manager. Still...We live in hopes of a revival of the fan base..after all... there are 32,000 places to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 I know someone who is returning for their 1st time in a year on saturday..... Arnt they? - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! Shocking!!! Bet they've still been to more games than you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 When I got my tickets this afternoon (Wednesday) they reckoned we were up to about 17k for Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 October, 2009 Share Posted 21 October, 2009 There's always an element of that. In our Div.1 ( later Prem.) days BEFORE the all-seater Dell, we struggled a lot but whenever we had a good run, these " strangers " would suddenly turn up on the terraces with their red/white scarves and get names wrong, shout at the wrong players and moan at the team - as if they were the manager. Still...We live in hopes of a revival of the fan base..after all... there are 32,000 places to fill. David I don't think you meant it like this, but never a truer word spoken in jest!!! It sums up years of the managers I've been watching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 MK Dons have sold their allocation and have been given another 500 tickets by Saints. I know someone who works for the club & they are expecting to bring between 2000-2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 23,000 expected according to the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Shocking!!! Bet they've still been to more games than you! Rapidly catching up though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 I'll be annoyed if we can't get the average crowd over 20,000 this season, so we need to start getting more in starting with Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Thinking of taking my 2 kids to their first Saints game this weekend - Chapel the best stand for them? My son's only 3 and I'm worried that if I take him into the Northam he'll beat the **** out of someone :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Thinking of taking my 2 kids to their first Saints game this weekend - Chapel the best stand for them? My son's only 3 and I'm worried that if I take him into the Northam he'll beat the **** out of someone :-) Kingsland north, they'll get the atmosphere but still get to sit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 22 October, 2009 Share Posted 22 October, 2009 Kingsland north, they'll get the atmosphere but still get to sit down. Why, have they got seats in the Kingsland North - cor, posh b*ggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 October, 2009 Share Posted 23 October, 2009 According to the Echo this morning, tomorrow's attendance is expected to exceed 23,000, and attendances have risen 20% compared to the same period last season. So much for the fans being lost forever and there being no Lowe factor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 23 October, 2009 Share Posted 23 October, 2009 According to the Echo this morning, tomorrow's attendance is expected to exceed 23,000, and attendances have risen 20% compared to the same period last season. So much for the fans being lost forever and there being no Lowe factor... To be fair Alps, there was no Lowe factor when Manchester United rolled into town... Gates are up because we have a new owner with money and with that, genuine hope. We also have a fine manager and some excellent players. And we're winning! (This is not to suggest that Lowe was in anyway not the root cause of all the above not being in place!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 October, 2009 Share Posted 23 October, 2009 The only reason we had a bug crowd vs man utd is because people wanted to watch them. There is a difference with supporting saints against lower teams. Loads if people boycotted under lowe. Me and six of my family included. Loving having a season ticket again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir woody Posted 23 October, 2009 Share Posted 23 October, 2009 I'm going on saturday, this is my first game in 3 years. Hopefully i can go a bit more often from now on. Prior to this i had a season ticket for 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 October, 2009 (edited) 23,000 expected according to the Echo. Great news everyone ..and we still have 9,000 seats left ! COYR !!!!!!!!! Edited 24 October, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 October, 2009 23,000 expected according to the Echo. well done you lot ...(almost right Echo ) 21387 today.how many next time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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