saint lard Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 (edited) All down to opinions,but that's what counts,who is the greatest..... I will get the ball rolling by naming a couple of greats.In no particular order... Hendrix Steve Vai Joe Bonamassa Slash (met him,nice bloke too) Micheal Schenker Gary Moore Jimmy Page James Hetfield Kirk Hammett Dave Gilmore The list goes on and on... Steve Vai is technically gifted but lacks a certain 'soul' for the want of a better expression. Going to see Bonamassa at the Guildhall,really cant wait. One of the greatest solo's imo is on Comfortably Numb,so much feeling and emotion,probably not the most intricate but jeez it gets me every time. If only i could replicate that on my Uke. This is pretty nifty....... Bonamassa strolls into his record store and... And doing his stuff in the studio... Edited 18 October, 2009 by saint lard
Rattlehead Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 Good shout with Kossoff. However, the correct answer is James Hetfield. Notable mentions for Dave Mustaine, Jerry Cantrell and Mark Tremonti. Vai does nothing for me.
saint_bert Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 There is also the Satch man! Kirk Hemmit for me though. For obvious reasons really
badgerx16 Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 Richard Brandon..... Who he ? ( Most likely that he is the one who lopped off King Charles the First's head ) Or to keep this on track, may I suggest Richie Blackmore, Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana, Tommy Iommi Adrian Smith.
saint boggy Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 i saw the thread title and thought "ooo,it's gotta be Jason Vorhees".......was rather confused.com when i saw the actual posts..... sorry to sound like a dinlo, but what does "axeman " mean if not 'a man wielding an axe'??? :confused:
badgerx16 Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 If we are talking about 'AXE' men, then maybe the man who plays this ? [
Rattlehead Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 There is also the Satch man! Kirk Hemmit for me though. For obvious reasons really Satch, like Vai, doesn't do anything much for me. Technically superb, of course, but rather boring IMO. Hetfield pwns Hammett.
Block 5 Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 An interesting thread that is sure to spark some debate. I would strike Jimmy Page's name from the list. Ever since I realised that the so-called 'best guitar solo ever' (Stairway to Heaven) was a fraud, I never saw him in the same light again. My nomination for best electric would be Steve Hillage. But what about those REAL guitarists who prefer not to plug their instrument into an amp and hide their flaws behind feedback and distortion????? Surely John Renbourn is the most technically accomplished British guitarist ever! And what about Bert Jansch...... his version of Davey Graham's 'Angie' makes wannabe guitarists dribble and drool. If you don't believe me......have a listen Incidentally, Davey Graham should be on the list too.
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 Good shout with Kossoff. However, the correct answer is James Hetfield. Notable mentions for Dave Mustaine, Jerry Cantrell and Mark Tremonti. Vai does nothing for me. Got to be Kirk if we are going down the metallica route ?? Hendrix was just unbelievable And i have to mention mark Knopfler,
RonManager Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 An interesting thread that is sure to spark some debate. I would strike Jimmy Page's name from the list. Ever since I realised that the so-called 'best guitar solo ever' (Stairway to Heaven) was a fraud, I never saw him in the same light again. Tell me more - I've never heard of this before.
hamster Posted 18 October, 2009 Posted 18 October, 2009 I'd say that the term 'axeman' must mean a heavy metal guitarist, no? Some lovely stuff linked above but not all what I'd consider 'axemen'. For me it has to be someone who gets the crowd going mental and purely from personal memories of 'Monsters of Rock' and 'Heavy Metal Holocaust' and Sabbath's 'Mob Rules' tour to name but threee would lead me towards a bit of mesmerising by Angus Young or praps Iommi's genius. For Those About To Rock (we salute you): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua0xlqfR6gg Ultimately it has to be Tony Iommi - (enjoy, and apologies for using a clip with that knob Phil Collins in it): ...and he's only got TWO fingers, even more amazing. I should add that I discarded my cut off denim jacket way back, so my opinions really count for diddly squat probably.
Pancake Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Keef - he is the human riff after all. Forgot all your noodley nonses, riffing is where its at (says the firmly rhythm guitar player)
Rattlehead Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Got to be Kirk if we are going down the metallica route ?? Disagree. Just because Hammett is the lead guitarist doesn't make him the best. Papa Het created most of the great Metallica riffs and his rhythm playing is second to none. No slouch on the few solos that he does either. Hetfield really does pwn Hammett IMO, although Hammett is cool as well (probably wouldn't be in my top 10 though). I should also declare that I am firmly a rhythm guitarist and find myself in utter awe of Hetfield's technique, creativity and attitude.
jeff leopard Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Kevin Shields or Brian Gibson from Ligtning Bolt, he can do more with a bass guitar than all heavy metal 'axemen' combined and squared. I WIN!
Rattlehead Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 The top 10 is something like: 1. Hetfield 2. Kossoff 3. Hendrix 4. Mustaine 5. Cantrell 6. Tremonti 7. Iommi 8. Page 9. Angus Young 10. Neil Young There or thereabouts include Morello, Gilmour, Knopfler (even if he did play a a g*y Fender), Stevie Ray, Blackmore and Thayil. Slash and Hammett some way behind these, although I like both.
the stain Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Do they have to be metal, or can it be anyone? John McLaughlin John Fahey Johnny Marr John Martyn plus some others not called John. Jim O'Rourke Loren Mazzacane Connors Prince
Trader Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Rory Gallagher knocked 'em all into a ****ed hat.
sotonjoe Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Sid Vicious for bass player. Don't be silly ... he couldn't play the bass ... that was the point. Sid Vicious as best anti-bass player maybe.
saint_bert Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I love AC/DC but dont rate AY too highly. Great showman fo sho, but its all pretty similar And this coming from a bloke who actively cheered for him to strip at Wembely this year.
Hamilton Saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Richard Thompson - because he's a great acoustic guitarist AND electric guitarist. Not only that, he's also a great songwriter too!
St Landrew Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 (edited) Keef - he is the human riff after all. Forgot all your noodley nonses, riffing is where its at (says the firmly rhythm guitar player) Err.... no. Electric lead guitarists need only apply. Loads of great ones named out there [NOT Keef], but no mention of Rory Gallagher. I've amended that now. EDIT: Oops, just spotted him in post 27 by Trader [sounds like a band name]. Well seconded, anyhow. Edited 20 October, 2009 by St Landrew
Pancake Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Err.... no. Electric lead guitarists need only apply. Why?
Rattlehead Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Electric lead guitarists need only apply. Lead guitar fascist.
the stain Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Lead guitar fascist. I'd go for Mussolini, with Franco on bass, Mosley on rhythm and Adolf on the traps. Not sure who would be frontman material. Flamboyance wasn't really their thing.
Deppo Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I see I got infracted for posting 'Boj' on this thread. Guess who by... What price a sense of humour? We don't need this fascist groove thing.
the stain Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I see I got infracted for posting 'Boj' on this thread. Guess who by... What price a sense of humour? We don't need this fascist groove thing. It's possible you've just solved my dilemma...
norwaysaint Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 bojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojboj I vote for Johnny Marr bojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojbojboj
Rattlehead Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I see I got infracted for posting 'Boj' on this thread. Guess who by... What price a sense of humour? We don't need this fascist groove thing. The smart money is on Arizona.
badgerx16 Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I'd go for Mussolini, with Franco on bass, Mosley on rhythm and Adolf on the traps. Not sure who would be frontman material. Flamboyance wasn't really their thing. I'd put General Galtieri on drums and put Adolf up front - they could then do a cover of 'I never loved Eva Braun' by the Boomtown Rats.
RonManager Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 And looking very relaxed...............Adolf Hitler on vibes..............Nice Bonzo Dog Band - Intro
Block 5 Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Tell me more - I've never heard of this before. The solo on the album is not 'one take' but rather, a series of edits. Listen carefully and you'll hear them punch in. I had always thought that it was one take and Jimmy had practised/sold his soul etc until it was perfect.
Block 5 Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Do they have to be metal, or can it be anyone? John McLaughlin John Fahey Johnny Marr John Martyn plus some others not called John. Jim O'Rourke Loren Mazzacane Connors Prince YES! Of course.......what a good call. His work with Shakti is incredible.......and of course, he played with Miles.
Stanley Saint Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Johnny Marr for me. Why can't he dig out his melodic jangle again, when the world needs him most?
Deppo Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Johnny Marr for me. Why can't he dig out his melodic jangle again, when the world needs him most? He's joined The Cribs.
the stain Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 He's joined The Cribs. Like so many of his generation...
Pancake Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 The solo on the album is not 'one take' but rather, a series of edits. Listen carefully and you'll hear them punch in. I had always thought that it was one take and Jimmy had practised/sold his soul etc until it was perfect. Not really that shocking. I would assume 90+% of solos committed to record are done this way. As are 99% of vocals, drums, bass, keyboards, strings... When you consider that the tones from the solo are also obviously from different guitars and set ups, then its a given.
amsterdam Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Billy Gibbons Robert Cray Already been mentioned but also class: Clapton Hendrix Gary Moore Also would add George Harrison - much under-rated as a guitarist...
Hamilton Saint Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Billy Gibbons Robert Cray Already been mentioned but also class: Clapton Hendrix Gary Moore Also would add George Harrison - much under-rated as a guitarist... He was not a naturally-talented guitarist. If you read Geoff Emerick's book about the Beatles Here, There and Everywhere (he was the chief engineer on Revolver, Sgt. Pepper ..., and Magical Mystery Tour), George often had a difficult time working out and perfecting many of his guitar solos. Geoff remembers several occasions in the studio when George would keep the others waiting for ages whilst he struggled with a particular solo. Paul sometimes played the lead instead, often nailing it on the first take. BTW, I don't think anyone mentioned Jeff Beck - an amazingly versatile guitarist - I love his jazzy stuff.
Block 5 Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Not really that shocking. I would assume 90+% of solos committed to record are done this way. As are 99% of vocals, drums, bass, keyboards, strings... When you consider that the tones from the solo are also obviously from different guitars and set ups, then its a given. Sad but true. Conclusion: there are no good guitarists.
RonManager Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 The solo on the album is not 'one take' but rather, a series of edits. Listen carefully and you'll hear them punch in. I had always thought that it was one take and Jimmy had practised/sold his soul etc until it was perfect. I saw him do it live twice in a week at Knebworth in '79, sounded pretty amazing to me then though.
Block 5 Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 I saw him do it live twice in a week at Knebworth in '79, sounded pretty amazing to me then though. You are one lucky guy! I am totally jealous.
Elmore Posted 27 October, 2009 Posted 27 October, 2009 Do they have to be metal, or can it be anyone? John McLaughlin John Fahey Johnny Marr John Martyn plus some others not called John. Jim O'Rourke Loren Mazzacane Connors Prince And perhaps the best of the lot (imo) the late great John McGeoch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICGMPBMTSqQ
hamster Posted 27 October, 2009 Posted 27 October, 2009 And perhaps the best of the lot (imo) the late great John McGeoch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICGMPBMTSqQ Did you just do a random search pof youtube for "****e Music"?
Saint in Paradise Posted 28 October, 2009 Posted 28 October, 2009 (edited) How about these two ?? What about this "GIRL" ?? And this chap ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9jrBg4Lwc&feature=fvw Finally what about this Master ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaXr1AjQb8&feature=related Edited 28 October, 2009 by Saint in Paradise
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