alpine_saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Author Posted 19 October, 2009 Yes you can change the IP address with a proxy. One problem is that it'll be slower than you would get as the "signal" needs to go via the proxy so if you have a fast connection it should be OK. I've used this to watch some US TV series ahead of time (and without the ads!). What is strange is that I'm here in the UK atm but cannot view the any video on the beeb as my access is via Switzerland, bizarre! I tried a proxy yesterday to watch the BBC highlights. It no longer tells me I am not in the UK, and I see the UK version of the BBC website, but it now tells me JavaScript is not enabled when it is in reality.
SaintBobby Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 The BBC blocks everything to do with sport. Its bloody annoying. The EU is supposed to be a single market, any ex-pat in Europe should have the right to pay for a UK TV licence and/or a SKY subscription and be able to watch the BBC and other channel's programmes and sports coverage. When is this arcane bullsh*t going to be changed ? We're completely missing some of SFCs finer moments from the last 15 years over here. Unfortunately, the BBC are under no obligation to offer to sell you a licence. And as they aren't governed by the profit motive, I doubt this will change. For those complaining that they can't get BBC stuff on their laptop in e.g. California....unfortuantely, the licence fee is territorial not personal. Your annual fee of c. £135 allows you to watch the BBC in your own home, not on your own personal travels. I think this is all totally mad and the BBC should be sold off entirely.
Doctoroncall Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I tried a proxy yesterday to watch the BBC highlights. It no longer tells me I am not in the UK, and I see the UK version of the BBC website, but it now tells me JavaScript is not enabled when it is in reality. I'll try to remember what application I used, it was a couple of years ago. I got it on a 30 day trial and as it worked well I bought it (just a few quid) for a year.
saint_in_munich Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I tried a proxy yesterday to watch the BBC highlights. It no longer tells me I am not in the UK, and I see the UK version of the BBC website, but it now tells me JavaScript is not enabled when it is in reality. Alpine, drop me a mail on pdms_designer at yahoo dot co dot uk and i will give you a way to access 44 British channels. Same applies to Canada Saint and anyone else.
jam Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 The BBC blocks everything to do with sport. Its bloody annoying. The EU is supposed to be a single market, any ex-pat in Europe should have the right to pay for a UK TV licence and/or a SKY subscription and be able to watch the BBC and other channel's programmes and sports coverage. When is this arcane bullsh*t going to be changed ? We're completely missing some of SFCs finer moments from the last 15 years over here. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it to do with the rights that the BBC have purchased to show highlights? Similar to why Solent goes offline when they are broadcasting evening games. I was under the impression that they only have limited rights to put stuff on the internet so assume that if they made the footy highlights available outside the UK they'd be breaking the terms of their license with the Football League. Not that this helps Alpine or anyone outside the UK who just wants to see the highlights...
mikec Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Blimey, not even heard about this. So, me mum can pop into Argos, buy a Freesat receiver, fly it over here and I can watch UK TV if I re/align my dish from Astra1 to Astra2. That easy ? You won't be able to pick up the Freesat channels in Austria without installing a MASSIVE dish. The beam is tightly focussed on the UK. People in France, Belguim, Holland can pick it up but the signal drops off very quickly as you get further afield. The subscription Sky channels may be a bit easier to get (if you can get a Sky receiver and card) as they are mainly broadcast on a wider beam (but still on the Astra 1 cluster.)
amsterdam Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Why, do you decide where you are going to live solely on the basis of how good the TV channels are ??? Actually Alps one of the (minor) things that swung my decision to accept a move from Lausanne to Amsterdam was the thought of being able to watch some decent TV!! Another 6 months of BBC b*****d Prime, or BBC f*****g World and I would have topped myself!! It cannot be beyond the whit of the BBC to produce a decent package of programmes for the average British ex-pat family surely?
norwaysaint Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 What sort of box ? All the ones I've seen need a card, even for the freebies. And I'd love to know how you get the BBC in Norway. You are well outside the footprint. I think only channel 4 is encrypted and even then you just need an expired sky card, nothing else I get is encrypted. My dish is only 80cm, but I'm looking at getting bigger as I lose some BBC channels in very bad weather. I know loads of people with the same.
Ash Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 Why, do you decide where you are going to live solely on the basis of how good the TV channels are ??? That is exactly what I was getting at; well done you.
spain saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 You won't be able to pick up the Freesat channels in Austria without installing a MASSIVE dish. The beam is tightly focussed on the UK. People in France, Belguim, Holland can pick it up but the signal drops off very quickly as you get further afield. The subscription Sky channels may be a bit easier to get (if you can get a Sky receiver and card) as they are mainly broadcast on a wider beam (but still on the Astra 1 cluster.) We get sky here with a 1.2metre dish and only gets interference in very bad weather!
stkev7 Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 We received BBC1 on normal Austrian TV instead of that Prime rubbish for about two weeks before the start of the football season then they went and changed it back... I was not happy!!! I'm no internet pervert when it comes to the technical side of things so I'm just happy to fork out £40 on the Saints Player to be honest.
alpine_saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Author Posted 19 October, 2009 That is exactly what I was getting at; well done you. Sorry, but I found it difficult to believe that anyone could be so shallow. If I NEED to something, I buy a DVD from Amazon.
alpine_saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Author Posted 19 October, 2009 Actually Alps one of the (minor) things that swung my decision to accept a move from Lausanne to Amsterdam was the thought of being able to watch some decent TV!! Another 6 months of BBC b*****d Prime, or BBC f*****g World and I would have topped myself!! It cannot be beyond the whit of the BBC to produce a decent package of programmes for the average British ex-pat family surely? I am sure you had other reasons too. I dont get why the BBC are so bloody-minded towards ex-pats either.
.comsaint Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 We get sky here with a 1.2metre dish and only gets interference in very bad weather! Yes - but whereabouts in Europe are you Spain Saint?
alpine_saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Author Posted 19 October, 2009 We received BBC1 on normal Austrian TV instead of that Prime rubbish for about two weeks before the start of the football season then they went and changed it back... I was not happy!!! I'm no internet pervert when it comes to the technical side of things so I'm just happy to fork out £40 on the Saints Player to be honest. I have been told of a town in the North of Austria that has all the BBC channels on its local cable system. Sounds a bit dodgy to me, to be honest.
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 (edited) For the technically-minded... It looks like the relevant satellite is Astra 2D which is quite a narrow footbrint. I have a mate at Betzdorf who I could contact if we neeed any more detailed answers. http://www.television-world.com/footprints.htm http://sat.beitinger.de/astra_2d_english.html Edited 19 October, 2009 by Whitey Grandad spelling
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I have been told of a town in the North of Austria that has all the BBC channels on its local cable system. Sounds a bit dodgy to me, to be honest. Many years ago in an earlier life I was designing satellite uplink encryption systems for North America. HBO were concerned that people might be watching their services without paying the appropriate subscriptions so they ran competitions which were free to enter and then analysed where the entries came from. If they found that entries were coming from a town where no cable operator had signed up, then they would send someone to investigate. After a couple of nights of channel surfing in a local motel they soon sorted out those who had not paid.
alpine_saint Posted 19 October, 2009 Author Posted 19 October, 2009 For the technically-minded... It looks like the relevant satellite is Astra 2D which is quite a narrow footbrint. I have a mate at Betzdorf who I could contact if we neeed any more detailed answers. http://www.television-world.com/footprints.htm http://sat.beitinger.de/astra_2d_english.html I've done a bit of research on the dish size issue, and your links only serve to confirm my worst fears. I need a dish in excess of 2m where I live, right down on the Slovenian border.
lenwilkins Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I am sure you had other reasons too. I dont get why the BBC are so bloody-minded towards ex-pats either. Maybe it's the way some of them leave the country, moaning that the UK is going to the dogs and that the grass is a lot greener in Austria and that watching football there is so much cheaper.
westofshannonsaint Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I am a paying customer of the BBC - I pay ntl/upc who in return (i presume) pay BBC a fee. it winds me up that they can't even be bothered to put a rain-cloud over Ireland and take it off the odd day when its dry, I don't even expect us to get a mention, we can look around the presenter.
suewhistle Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 When is this arcane bullsh*t going to be changed ? We're completely missing some of SFCs finer moments from the last 15 years over here. Well, if you narrow it down to the last 3 and a bit years that I've been in Italy the finer moments I suspect have been completely absent! From my searches of the internet P2P stuff there really hasn't been much coverage and I don't think the takeover was televised! I can understand families wanting TV but as a grown adult I really don't miss it, there's far too much else to do. If I want to sit in front of a screen there's always this forum... and it IS annoying that even short little video clips can't be shown here. You'd think it would be good publicity and marketing to at least allow If we get to the play-offs I'll hustle a few more private English lessons and fly over to watch us live!
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 October, 2009 Posted 19 October, 2009 I've done a bit of research on the dish size issue, and your links only serve to confirm my worst fears. I need a dish in excess of 2m where I live, right down on the Slovenian border. Even that's no guarantee. My son lives in Chandlers Ford and can't get a satellite signal on account of the trees. You also have to make sure that there are no mountains in the way.
arfurdent Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Even that's no guarantee. My son lives in Chandlers Ford and can't get a satellite signal on account of the trees. You also have to make sure that there are no mountains in the way. I live in Chandlers Ford and have not seen any mountains, so that is why I get a food Sky and Freesat signal. Copper nails will sort the tres out
Boris Karloff Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Its Astra2D for the BBC and Astra2A/B for Sky at 28.2deg E, but if you go to the SES/Astra website, you will see that Astra2D has such a tight footprint on the UK, you need a 1.5m dish to pick up in France and about 2.4m to guarantee picking up the Beeb here in Austria, which is marginally smaller than Jodrell Bank. And you still need a UK subscription address for the SKY card and box, which for the first year has to be connected to a UK phone line. Its nigh-well impossible to do for new subscriptions. I should have brought my old one with me, but decided not to. Big mistake :-( I'm not sure about that. We certainly don't have a 1.5m dish. It's smaller than the one we had in the UK, and we pick it up loud and clear. You have a few more mountains though! Have you looked at Freesat? We use our old skybox and card and we don't pay anything and get the equivalent of Freeview.
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2009 Author Posted 20 October, 2009 I'm not sure about that. We certainly don't have a 1.5m dish. It's smaller than the one we had in the UK, and we pick it up loud and clear. You have a few more mountains though! Have you looked at Freesat? We use our old skybox and card and we don't pay anything and get the equivalent of Freeview. I have looked at Freesat now. Indeed, it gets around all the Sky bullsh*t for the Free-To-Air channels, but it still cannot avoid the Astra2D footprint issue. You are in Bordeaux, my understanding that France and Western Switzerland are OK but the signal drops off pretty rapidly as you go further East than that.
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 Have a look here, I know a guy in spain who uses it, he's able to use bbc iplayer and more, £4.99 a month. http://www.watchuktv.co.uk/faqs/ http://www.watchuktv.co.uk/free_trial/
The Kid Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I live in Madrid and currently watch all my british tv live through a little program called "j@ck tv". 40 ish streams direct form someone sky box I think. http://www.myp2pforum.eu/live-tv/44527-j-ck-tv-live-uk-tv.html These streams are live 24-7, and really good quality (1.5Mb/s) See what you think. Changed our lives thats or sure
I remember Paul Rideout! Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I agree with Alpine saint it's weird. I live in Qatar and they show Rai Uno, Rai Due and Media Set 1 (Italian version of BBC1, BBC2 and ITV) + loads of German, Russian, French and Spanish channels (+ some rubbish arabic ones) but the only UK ones are BBC prime and BBC world...both of which are cack!
LVSaint Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 I can download torrents of anything from British TV, including the footy highlights show from uknova.com or thebox.biz, but I wish there were a few more interconnecting satellites up there that'd give me access to those Eurobird and Astra jobbies!
LVSaint Posted 20 October, 2009 Posted 20 October, 2009 (edited) I live in Madrid and currently watch all my british tv live through a little program called "j@ck tv". 40 ish streams direct form someone sky box I think. http://www.myp2pforum.eu/live-tv/44527-j-ck-tv-live-uk-tv.html These streams are live 24-7, and really good quality (1.5Mb/s) See what you think. Changed our lives thats or sure Just downloaded and very easy to use but the streams I've checked are not smooth and the picture freezes. Is it always like this? Edit: I only have WMP 9. Might upgrading to WMP 10 or 11 help with the buffering issue, or is my office bandwidth maybe not strong enough to cope with the HD output? Edited 20 October, 2009 by LVSaint
The Kid Posted 21 October, 2009 Posted 21 October, 2009 Just downloaded and very easy to use but the streams I've checked are not smooth and the picture freezes. Is it always like this? Edit: I only have WMP 9. Might upgrading to WMP 10 or 11 help with the buffering issue, or is my office bandwidth maybe not strong enough to cope with the HD output? The other one i use when J@CK TV get a bit jittery is "BritishTV" http://www.myp2pforum.eu/live-tv/41045-british-tv.html Same thing but uses VLC instead of media player. It also uses mms streams as well. Quality pretty much the same. The picture freezes because the buffer in WMP needs to be increased especially if your bandwidth is less than 10Mb/s, or if there is a dodgy router between you and MrVeryKindtoShareHisSKYBox´s server. The forum has loads of advice about sorting problems out.
st alex Posted 23 October, 2009 Posted 23 October, 2009 I'm living in Ireland at the moment, and we have some sort of TV package which has the five UK terestrial channels as well as the freeveiw ones and and few more. Problem is, is that sometimes I'm not at home on a Saturday night and miss the highlights, I've no means of recording it and it is quite annoying. Must be to do with broadcasting rights and not TV licenses, since the BBC make money through advertising on their international website (through video, and banners). Virgin Media highlights won't work on their website abroad when I lived in Hong Kong either, quite frustrating. Is it possible to get free audio commentary from anywhere yet?
LVSaint Posted 23 October, 2009 Posted 23 October, 2009 The other one i use when J@CK TV get a bit jittery is "BritishTV" http://www.myp2pforum.eu/live-tv/41045-british-tv.html Same thing but uses VLC instead of media player. It also uses mms streams as well. Quality pretty much the same. The picture freezes because the buffer in WMP needs to be increased especially if your bandwidth is less than 10Mb/s, or if there is a dodgy router between you and MrVeryKindtoShareHisSKYBox´s server. The forum has loads of advice about sorting problems out. Yeah, Im using both. Actually British TV seems to be better although not all channels work...luckily Beeb 1 and 2 seem ok.
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