MK Dons -big test next week

[shurlock]

MK Dons pace and movement might cause a few problems for our not always mobile CBs.

[Thedelldays]

I hope that no-one forgets to give them **** for being the first (and hopefully last) ever official franchised football club in England. It is plainly wronf=g that they even exist in this league.

 

Can you imagine how you would feel if Marcus had bought us and shipped the 'club' along with the '76 triumph up the road to (say) Basingjoke? Well, these arseholes moved the club even further from their real home, and were allowed to change the nmae just to riub salt into the wounds of genuine 'Dons' fans.

 

It must never be allowed to happen again, and if ever the game of football had a bunch of plastic fans, then it is the MK Dons ones without a shadow of doubt.

 

I hope we absolutely smash them, I really do.

 

COYFR's

 

football teams have always changed down the years..

 

arsenal were south london once and called something completely differennt

 

saints were called st marys or something like that before..

 

im sure if you look through the history books that you will find that teams have evolved/relocated many times over the years....

[FarehamRed]

Taking the last 6 performances in the League shows just how far we've come - enjoy!

 

1 Colchester United 6 4 2 0 9 2 7 14 W D W W W D

2 Southampton 6 4 1 1 15 7 8 13 W D L W W W

3 Leeds United 6 3 3 0 8 2 6 12 W D W W D D

4 Milton Keynes Dons 6 4 0 2 6 3 3 12 W L L W W W

5 Millwall 6 3 2 1 13 3 10 11 W L D W D W

6 Norwich City 6 3 2 1 14 6 8 11 L D D W W W

7 Oldham Athletic 6 3 2 1 6 4 2 11 W W W D D L

8 Bristol Rovers 6 3 1 2 10 11 -1 10 W W D W L L

9 Yeovil 6 2 3 1 7 5 2 9 L W D D D W

10 Southend United 6 3 0 3 9 9 0 9 W L L W L W

11 Charlton Athletic 6 2 3 1 6 7 -1 9 D W L D D W

12 Leyton Orient 6 3 0 3 5 8 -3 9 L W L W L W

13 Hartlepool United 6 2 2 2 8 7 1 8 L W D L D W

14 Walsall 6 2 2 2 8 8 0 8 D L W D L W

15 Stockport County 6 2 2 2 5 9 -4 8 W D D L W L

16 Swindon Town 6 1 4 1 7 8 -1 7 D D D W D L

17 Exeter City 6 2 1 3 7 12 -5 7 W L D W L L

18 Tranmere Rovers 6 2 1 3 5 10 -5 7 L D W L L W

19 Brighton and Hove Albion 6 1 2 3 8 9 -1 5 L D L D W L

20 Huddersfield Town 6 1 1 4 7 8 -1 4 L D L L W L

21 Brentford 6 1 1 4 6 11 -5 4 L L W L D L

22 Gillingham 6 1 1 4 6 15 -9 4 L D L W L L

23 Carlisle United 6 0 3 3 5 10 -5 3 L D D D L L

24 Wycombe Wanderers 6 0 2 4 4 8 -4 2 L D L L L D

[Fan The Flames]

football teams have always changed down the years..

 

arsenal were south london once and called something completely differennt

 

saints were called st marys or something like that before..

 

im sure if you look through the history books that you will find that teams have evolved/relocated many times over the years....

 

Relocations have always happened within the city/town where they played ie Arsenal, Man Utd and names changed for wider geographical connections ie St Marys to Southampton. But never has a club been stolen from one set of fans and given to another like the Wimbledon story. I think the authorities changed the rules to stop this happening again, even the 'couldn't give a ****' football authorities thought it was wrong.

 

I too hope we smash up the plastic club, I would like to see them go bust.

[Trumush]

MK Dons pace and movement might cause a few problems for our not always mobile CBs.

 

Just watched MK Dons on the FL Show and agree,they are very quick and direct.

 

Might have to resort to the old tactic of scoring more goals than the opposition,which I think we are capable of: 5-4 anyone ????

[ohwhenthesaints]

It's going to be a cracker of a game, can't wait.

[Legod Third Coming]

It is imperative that WE, the crowd, take confidence into this game.

 

A rousing reception, a strong and loud presence from the off and MK Dons won't know what's hit them.

 

Never mind how they have been playing and their recent results, they simply haven't played a class side like us yet.

 

No more the mousey losers, we are now lions on the prowl.

 

Don't bottle it from the stands!

[farawaysaint]

Relocations have always happened within the city/town where they played ie Arsenal, Man Utd and names changed for wider geographical connections ie St Marys to Southampton. But never has a club been stolen from one set of fans and given to another like the Wimbledon story. I think the authorities changed the rules to stop this happening again, even the 'couldn't give a ****' football authorities thought it was wrong.

 

I too hope we smash up the plastic club, I would like to see them go bust.

 

They did indeed make sure this could never happen again.

[hypochondriac]

I was enjoying your last 2 post's until your needless slant on Lawrie!

 

You were talking sense, positive, all about football and no politics then 'BANG' lets slate Lawrie. Lawrie never classed himself as one of the post war best top 20 managers, it was a independent publication from Guinness, come on 19c, keep it real mate, the futures bright, the futures red and white!

 

Yep and that is my entire problem with it. Weston, if you are reading this can you see why it is difficult to treat this poster with respect.

[Saint_John]

Althought they have won 3 league games in a row I'm not sure their results are as impressive as ours.

 

IMO I think League 1 has leagues within leagues. Anyhow there last 6 league games are as follows :-

Gillingham (H) W 2-O (1-O until 9O min).

Walsall... (H) W 1-O

Brighton.. (a) W 1-O (5 Booked, playing against 1O men from 26mins)

Oldham.... (a) L 2-1 (5 Booked, 2-O down until the 87 min.)

Leeds..... (H) L 1-O (5 Booked, 1 s/o)

Wycombe... (a) W 1-O

 

Their 4 away wins this season have been at Brighton, Wycombe, Tranmere and Exeter, who imo are in the "bottom league" within L1.

 

A more important fact is that they have had 5 players booked on 4 occasions this season usually when they are not getting things there own way in matches.

[Legod Third Coming]

Althought they have won 3 league games in a row I'm not sure their results are as impressive as ours.

 

IMO I think League 1 has leagues within leagues. Anyhow there last 6 league games are as follows :-

Gillingham (H) W 2-O (1-O until 9O min).

Walsall... (H) W 1-O

Brighton.. (a) W 1-O (5 Booked, playing against 1O men from 26mins)

Oldham.... (a) L 2-1 (5 Booked, 2-O down until the 87 min.)

Leeds..... (H) L 1-O (5 Booked, 1 s/o)

Wycombe... (a) W 1-O

 

Their 4 away wins this season have been at Brighton, Wycombe, Tranmere and Exeter, who imo are in the "bottom league" within L1.

 

A more important fact is that they have had 5 players booked on 4 occasions this season usually when they are not getting things there own way in matches.

 

 

Good work friend. I think we could cane them - no arrogance, no expectancy. But we have a superb team now, far superior to MK Dons, and we need to make it show. We have looked untroubled in the last three games, scoring and missing at will.

 

To improve, we must bury the chances we are creating and remain tight at the back, ideally tighter.

 

An early goal would really set up this game. I can't wait.

[St Marco]

Basically we are neck and neck with them so really will be a good indicator for us of how the season could go from here. Think they have the 2nd best away record or something.

 

It has the potential to be a classic.

 

The next 4 games could be massive for us, 3 of those games are at home.

[docker-p]

I hope that no-one forgets to give them **** for being the first (and hopefully last) ever official franchised football club in England. It is plainly wronf=g that they even exist in this league.

 

Can you imagine how you would feel if Marcus had bought us and shipped the 'club' along with the '76 triumph up the road to (say) Basingjoke? Well, these arseholes moved the club even further from their real home, and were allowed to change the nmae just to riub salt into the wounds of genuine 'Dons' fans.

 

It must never be allowed to happen again, and if ever the game of football had a bunch of plastic fans, then it is the MK Dons ones without a shadow of doubt.

 

I hope we absolutely smash them, I really do.

 

COYFR's

 

Well said Hamster I couldn't agree more.

[SNSUN]

7th favorites to be promoted with betfair -actual promotion rather than just play offs or automatic

 

Automatic Promotion is promotion, unless I'm mistaken!

 

Unless we're bribing the FA...

[Gigersaint]

Is Gobern still on loan with them?

 

I'd imagine he would be sat in the stands as an observer if he is.

[krissyboy31]

Is Gobern still on loan with them?

 

I'd imagine he would be sat in the stands as an observer if he is.

 

Expired at the weekend but Ince wants to extend his loan.

 

http://www.mkdons.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10420~1828463,00.html

[S-Clarke]

Expired at the weekend but Ince wants to extend his loan.

 

http://www.mkdons.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10420~1828463,00.html

 

Sounds to me like they want to try and do a perm.

 

would be a shame, i rate oscar...

[krissyboy31]

Sounds to me like they want to try and do a perm.

 

would be a shame, i rate oscar...

I don't think they'll get him. I think he is in AP's long-term plans.

[Gorgiesaint]

Good work friend. I think we could cane them - no arrogance, no expectancy. But we have a superb team now, far superior to MK Dons, and we need to make it show. We have looked untroubled in the last three games, scoring and missing at will.

 

To improve, we must bury the chances we are creating and remain tight at the back, ideally tighter.

 

An early goal would really set up this game. I can't wait.

 

I believe we are now into phase 2 of AP's plans - he has managed to gel the squad and get it winning, certainly away wins at Southend & Oldham are impressive (both in the top half of the form table despite losing to us). He now needs to keep heads & attitudes in the right place to ensure we keep our run going - something that historically we've not been good at. But history is there to be broken....

[Danbert]

Automatic Promotion is promotion, unless I'm mistaken!

 

Unless we're bribing the FA...

 

What he means you pillock is that these are the odds on actual promotion rather than automatic promotion on the one hand or the playoffs on the other. The odds on being promoted are obviously not the same as the odds on achieving promotion automatically.

[Legod Third Coming]

What he means you pillock is that these are the odds on actual promotion rather than automatic promotion on the one hand or the playoffs on the other. The odds on being promoted are obviously not the same as the odds on achieving promotion automatically.

 

That is correct. I took 18/1 promotion and 150/1 Champions.

 

Boy, will I get excited if the latter ever becomes a posssibility!!!!

[SNSUN]

What he means you pillock is that these are the odds on actual promotion rather than automatic promotion on the one hand or the playoffs on the other. The odds on being promoted are obviously not the same as the odds on achieving promotion automatically.

 

Whoa easy, put the handbag down love. Some people can't take jokes...

[NickG]

That is correct. I took 18/1 promotion and 150/1 Champions.Boy, will I get excited if the latter ever becomes a posssibility!!!!

 

 

 

worth a fiver?

[Legod Third Coming]

worth a fiver?

 

Lol - I had a touch more than that on...

[NickG]

I **** people off on here with my optimism but even I can't see that one!

[Legod Third Coming]

I **** people off on here with my optimism but even I can't see that one!

 

hahahahah. to be honest, I had a good day on the horses and thought it was oneof those 'impossible' bets that just occassionally come in...

 

My 18/1 about promotion I am genuinely hopeful of collecting on!

[CB Fry]

I hope that no-one forgets to give them **** for being the first (and hopefully last) ever official franchised football club in England. It is plainly wronf=g that they even exist in this league.

 

Can you imagine how you would feel if Marcus had bought us and shipped the 'club' along with the '76 triumph up the road to (say) Basingjoke? Well, these arseholes moved the club even further from their real home, and were allowed to change the nmae just to riub salt into the wounds of genuine 'Dons' fans.

 

It must never be allowed to happen again, and if ever the game of football had a bunch of plastic fans, then it is the MK Dons ones without a shadow of doubt.

 

I hope we absolutely smash them, I really do.

 

COYFR's

 

 

I've forgiven them. Wimbledon had a pitiful fanbase for a top flight club and would have gone out of business anyway.

 

It wouldn't ever have happened to Saints so all this "it could be you next" garbage is meaningless.

 

I like MK Dons because they **** off the When Saturday Comes po-faced Chorley-ites of this world. Winkleman has done a superb job building a successful club in the face of a lot of adversity and they have a decent and growing fanbase.

 

I'd love it if they got promoted this season (but not at our expense of course).

[hypochondriac]

I wouldn't. I hate MK dons. I hope they go bust.

[voteforpedro]

I wouldn't. I hate MK dons. I hope they go bust.

 

I second that

[westofshannonsaint]

the first real test for AP's settled squad, if we in this I will believe we can go on and reach the playoffs.

 

a post above suggest mkdons can be a bit dirty so it will be a physical game & one I would love to watch. When was the last time Saints won 4 in a row?

 

I think we can play them off the park.

[the saint in winchester]

I wonder if any of the original Wimbledon fans still follow them or if they all now follow AFC Wimbledon instead. It must have been really difficult as a fan to see their club go through that.

 

I have a mate who was Wimbledon FC through and through, being a Wimbledon lad. When they were de-frocked and emerged as MK Dons, he immediately supported the embryonic AFC Wimbledon. He still travels up from Winchester to Wimbledon for their home games and any away games in the south. He hates MK Dons with a passion and hopes we stuff them royally.

[hamster]

I've forgiven them. Wimbledon had a pitiful fanbase for a top flight club and would have gone out of business anyway.

 

It wouldn't ever have happened to Saints so all this "it could be you next" garbage is meaningless.

 

I like MK Dons because they **** off the When Saturday Comes po-faced Chorley-ites of this world. Winkleman has done a superb job building a successful club in the face of a lot of adversity and they have a decent and growing fanbase.

 

I'd love it if they got promoted this season (but not at our expense of course).

 

It's not really case of forgiving them for me though CB. If any plaudits are to be dealt out they are for the team and club and supporters and players that rose from non-league to the very pinnacle of the English game - winning the FA Cup, the most famous club tournament in the world.

 

The Wimblebon story is what every fan of non league football dreams of. That has absolutely nothing to do with MK Dons, they should not have been allowed to do what they did. I rmemeber (iirc) when Ipswich applied to change their name to Talbot Ipswich or something similar and were rigthly told where to go.

 

This is an interesting debate actually as there are some pretty big towns that could support a league team if someone fancied moving a club lock stocck and barrel (intentional Vinnie Jones reference) to their doorstep, it could even be argued that Southampton and Pompey could sustain another team that traded on the geographical no-mansland between our two cities. All they'd need would be a stadium near to Segensworth and a top flight team from outside the area, a team just like Wimbledon FC used to be. It could work, but that doesn't make it right or fair.

 

By the way, it will evoke great memories if anyone looked up who the President of AFC Wimbledon is nowadays, I smiled.

 

I hope the Itchen give them ****, I really do, worse than plastic Mancs imo.

 

Rant over.

 

hamster

Edited 19 October, 2009 by hamster

[westofshannonsaint]

mkdons forum (saints thread)

 

http://www.moocamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34037

 

I didn't realise Connolly played for them, whats the odds on him to score?

 

COYR

[CB Fry]

It's not really case of forgiving them for me though CB. If any plaudits are to be dealt out they are for the team and club and supporters and players that rose from non-league to the very pinnacle of the English game - winning the FA Cup, the most famous club tournament in the world.

 

The Wimblebon story is what every fan of non league football dreams of. That has absolutely nothing to do with MK Dons, they should not have been allowed to do what they did. I rmemeber (iirc) when Ipswich applied to change their name to Talbot Ipswich or something similar and were rigthly told where to go.

 

This is an interesting debate actually as there are some pretty big towns that could support a league team if someone fancied moving a club lock stocck and barrel (intentional Vinnie Jones reference) to their doorstep, it could even be argued that Southampton and Pompey could sustain another team that traded on the geographical no-mansland between our two cities. All they'd need would be a stadium near to Segensworth and a top flight team from outside the area, a team just like Wimbledon FC used to be. It could work, but that doesn't make it right or fair.

 

By the way, it will evoke great memories if anyone looked up who the President of AFC Wimbledon is nowadays, I smiled.

 

I hope the Itchen give them ****, I really do, worse than plastic Mancs imo.

 

Rant over.

 

hamster

 

 

 

MK Dons don't want any of the history of Wimbledon and make no claim on it, in fact they waived all holding over it a couple of years back.

 

The fans of the original Wimbledon deserted their club in droves and droves and droves even before the Dublin stuff was mooted. They would have gone bust anyway. They spent far too long whining about how far away their home ground was, but it was about five miles away from Plough Lane. It's like Saints losing 15,000 fans because Leibherr builds a new stadium in Totton.

 

Milton Keynes is sustaining a football club and with average gates of 10,000 you could say they deserve a league football club more than, say, Stockport or Hartlepool, neither of which have ever been promoted into the league, they were just let in. Much like the vast majority of English football clubs.

 

This idea that every club have strived through the pyramid is total fallacy, barely any have, Saints included. Almost every pro club in existance has been invited to join the league.

 

Fair play to Winkleman and MK Dons for breaking down the closed shop. More power to them.

Edited 20 October, 2009 by CB Fry

[Charlie2008]

football teams have always changed down the years..

 

arsenal were south london once

 

Wasn't it Woolwich Arsenal?

 

Mind you, at least they stayed in the same city. London to Milton Keynes is a bit of a random move. :confused:

[Sour Mash]

I've forgiven them. Wimbledon had a pitiful fanbase for a top flight club and would have gone out of business anyway.

 

It wouldn't ever have happened to Saints so all this "it could be you next" garbage is meaningless.

 

I like MK Dons because they **** off the When Saturday Comes po-faced Chorley-ites of this world. Winkleman has done a superb job building a successful club in the face of a lot of adversity and they have a decent and growing fanbase.

 

I'd love it if they got promoted this season (but not at our expense of course).

 

What utter rubbish. "Wimbledon had a pitiful fanbase" - can you let us know how much a team's average home attendance needs to be before it would be an issue for you? The original Wimbledon did brilliantly coming up through the leagues to give the glamour teams a run for their money, they were f*****d over by their local council and then succesive owners.

 

"I like MK Dons because they **** off the When Saturday Comes po-faced Chorley-ites of this world." You "like" them because they annoy people who think that football is more than two random teams running around kicking a ball and the money they can or cannot generate?

[Professor]

I wouldn't. I hate MK dons. I hope they go bust.

 

If you hate them, its best not to see them go bust, as they might get the benefit Saints have got from being debt-free!

[hasper57saint]

Gotta be very careful what I say here as 19C might 'misread' it. My seven years old grandson and I were reading the results last Saturday and when he got to MK Dons he said 'Mc Donalds'. Needless to say I thought it really funny. MK Dons could be an abbreiviation of McDonalds. When we had a word immediately after he said 'Grandad. Saints will gobble them up'. Hurrah for seven year olds!

COYR

[for_heaven's_Saint]

mkdons forum (saints thread)

 

http://www.moocamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34037

 

I didn't realise Connolly played for them, whats the odds on him to score?

 

COYR

 

Funny that they think 1,000 away fans is a lot, considering we're probably taking 3,100 next week.

[RonManager]

Funny that they think 1' date='000 away fans is a lot, considering we're probably taking 3,100 next week.[/quote']

 

They do seem suitably nervous about their chances in this game though.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

They do seem suitably nervous about their chances in this game though.

 

Yeah, I like the bit about their centrebacks maybe struggling, hopefully we can really test them.

[The Flying Finn]

They have Darren 'china legs' Powell in their defence.

 

We have a great chance to win.

[RedWillie]

Lets do a professional job, no over confidence yet please

[RedAndWhite91]

mkdons forum (saints thread)

 

http://www.moocamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34037

 

I didn't realise Connolly played for them, whats the odds on him to score?

 

COYR

 

15 point deduction? Elvis Hammond? 1000 fans? What is he talking about?!?!

[Fan The Flames]

I've forgiven them. Wimbledon had a pitiful fanbase for a top flight club and would have gone out of business anyway.

 

It wouldn't ever have happened to Saints so all this "it could be you next" garbage is meaningless.

 

I like MK Dons because they **** off the When Saturday Comes po-faced Chorley-ites of this world. Winkleman has done a superb job building a successful club in the face of a lot of adversity and they have a decent and growing fanbase.

 

I'd love it if they got promoted this season (but not at our expense of course).

 

Heaven forbid that a small club should be allowed to exisit in the top flight. Should we hound them out and save the Prem for the gigantic clubs with massive asian fan clubs, Wigan had better watch out or Milton Keynes for that matter if they ever get in to the top flight. Yes it won't ever happen to the Saints because it won't be allowed again, that's how wrong it was. I would have applauded Winkleman if he had taken the non-league MK team all the way through the league, like the people of Wimbleden did, but that was too much hard work better to steal another club. Wimbledon fans were distraught at what went on, but that doesn't matter does it as long at it sticks two fingers up at people you don't like.

[hamster]

MK Dons don't want any of the history of Wimbledon and make no claim on it, in fact they waived all holding over it a couple of years back.

 

The fans of the original Wimbledon deserted their club in droves and droves and droves even before the Dublin stuff was mooted. They would have gone bust anyway. They spent far too long whining about how far away their home ground was, but it was about five miles away from Plough Lane. It's like Saints losing 15,000 fans because Leibherr builds a new stadium in Totton.

 

Milton Keynes is sustaining a football club and with average gates of 10,000 you could say they deserve a league football club more than, say, Stockport or Hartlepool, neither of which have ever been promoted into the league, they were just let in. Much like the vast majority of English football clubs.

 

This idea that every club have strived through the pyramid is total fallacy, barely any have, Saints included. Almost every pro club in existance has been invited to join the league.

 

Fair play to Winkleman and MK Dons for breaking down the closed shop. More power to them.

 

After reading your reply I am almost convinced that you are joking now, almost.

 

We need to ask where that history is now though. Was it throan away? No it is there in the history books and it was there before these cowboys rode into town, where is that piece of footballing history? If I ever wanted a team other than saints (and The Mighty Gills of course) to win the FA Cup, really wanted them to win it, it would be AFC Wimbleodn. I would celbrate with them actually as it would be a great day for football and a great day for their President Mr Dickie Guy, I won't insult your intelligence by adding a link to his wiki page.

[S-Clarke]

After reading your reply I am almost convinced that you are joking now, almost.

 

We need to ask where that history is now though. Was it throan away? No it is there in the history books and it was there before these cowboys rode into town, where is that piece of footballing history? If I ever wanted a team other than saints (and The Mighty Gills of course) to win the FA Cup, really wanted them to win it, it would be AFC Wimbleodn. I would celbrate with them actually as it would be a great day for football and a great day for their President Mr Dickie Guy, I won't insult your intelligence by adding a link to his wiki page.

 

I'm almost 100% sure, after listening to a piece on AFC Wimbledon a few weeks ago, that they hold the honors of the ''old'' Wimbledon.

 

 

''In October 2006, an agreement was reached between Milton Keynes Dons F.C., the MK Dons Supporters Association, the Wimbledon Independent Supporters Association and the Football Supporters Federation. The replica of the FA Cup plus all club patrimony gathered under the name of Wimbledon F.C. would be returned to the London Borough of Merton. Ownership of trademarks and website domain names related to Wimbledon F.C. would also be transferred to the Borough. It was also agreed that any reference made to Milton Keynes Dons F.C. should refer only to events after 7 August 2004,''

Edited 20 October, 2009 by S-Clarke

[CB Fry]

What utter rubbish. "Wimbledon had a pitiful fanbase" - can you let us know how much a team's average home attendance needs to be before it would be an issue for you?

 

Heaven forbid that a small club should be allowed to exisit in the top flight. Should we hound them out and save the Prem for the gigantic clubs with massive asian fan clubs, Wigan had better watch out or Milton Keynes for that matter if they ever get in to the top flight.

 

 

My comment about their pitiful fanbase was followed up (in the same sentence) with the line "they would have gone out of business anyway". It's not a personal judgment about how small I think their fanbase is, its economics.

 

So AFC Wimbledon would have had to have been formed anyway.

 

Milton Keynes deserves a mid ranking second-third tier football club and "deserve" to be in the league as much as Everton, Arsenal, Burnley, Southampton and pretty much every other club in the country who never ever got promoted into the football league, just selected by greasing the right palms or slapping the right backs in the smoke filled rooms at the turn of the century.

 

But do I like them because the amount of po-faced holier than thou preaching I read and hear against them. Oh yes, Oh yes I do.

 

10,000 fans, a great chairman investing in the team and backing his managers, a promotion and a trophy win - one more promotion than Arsenal have ever ever achieved - and a community united behind a football club. Isn't that what football is supposed to be about?

[krissyboy31]

15 point deduction? Elvis Hammond? 1000 fans? What is he talking about?!?!

 

I read that earlier and Lol'd but re-reading it he calls himself Winchester Don. Must be the only person in Winchester that knows bugger all about the Saints.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

MK Dons don't want any of the history of Wimbledon and make no claim on it, in fact they waived all holding over it a couple of years back.

The fans of the original Wimbledon deserted their club in droves and droves and droves even before the Dublin stuff was mooted. They would have gone bust anyway. They spent far too long whining about how far away their home ground was, but it was about five miles away from Plough Lane. It's like Saints losing 15,000 fans because Leibherr builds a new stadium in Totton.

 

Milton Keynes is sustaining a football club and with average gates of 10,000 you could say they deserve a league football club more than, say, Stockport or Hartlepool, neither of which have ever been promoted into the league, they were just let in. Much like the vast majority of English football clubs.

 

This idea that every club have strived through the pyramid is total fallacy, barely any have, Saints included. Almost every pro club in existance has been invited to join the league.

 

Fair play to Winkleman and MK Dons for breaking down the closed shop. More power to them.

 

The only reason they agreed to waive their claim to Wimbledon FC's history and trophies etc is because the MK Dons Supporters Association were refused entry to the Football Supporters Federation until they did so. Until this was forced upon them, Winkleman basically tried to claim this history just with a name, kit and badge that he'd chosen himself.

I'm all for success for smaller clubs, and it's not a problem with Milton Keynes having a succesful team, just the fact that they (or at least their chairman) practically stole the team from another town.