Gillett open to Doncaster stay

[Andy_Porter]

Hopefully we can get a decent fee for him. I think he should be valued between 300-500k, he's still got 2 years on his contract too.

 

If we sell Gillett for the same sort of money we paid for Hammond we'd be laughing.

[L1Minus10]

Get rid.... not good enough. 5 ft 7 my ass, he's about 5 ft 3

[NI76]

It all depends what Pardew has in his plans in the January window, or if our new found midfield does not suffer with problems or injuries up to that point. It did not make sense to give Doncaster an extension or sell him on until we have that position covered. For me getting this wrong would be worthy of the sack for Pardew, I cannot see the point in letting someone who has put in the performances for Doncaster, in a position we are light in make any sense. This is stupidity with a capital S, at least hold on to him until we have found a replacement. You only have to look at the reviews from Doncaster fans to see he has been doing a very good job, against very good teams a level higher than ourselves. Took 2 or 3 games to get his fitness fully up to speed but see for yourselves the Donny views

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=184&fid=96&sty=2&act=1&mid=2123814642

If we don't get into the play off's this season it would be a travesty because we had not bothered to hang onto Gillett to cover up to the New Year or find we have someone that can make a difference. I am fully aware he has not impressed when given a chance, but he has never been tried in the one position we have seen him do a job for us and one he is doing well for Doncaster.

 

I just cannot see the logic in letting a player who is putting in these performances go until you have cover, at the cost of what, peanuts! If I was Cortese and saw us miss out on the chance of the play offs because of problems in our fragile midfield, this would be a very expensive mistake that could require squaring.

 

Are you for real? You think letting Gillett leave is worthy of Pardew getting the sack?

 

Even if we don't buy anyone in January (although clearly we will) Hammond and Schneiderlin are infinitely better than Gillett will ever be and Wotton and James are also superior. Even Gobern I reckon would be as good as Gillett in the middle of the park. That's more than enough cover without the inevitable signings.

 

Go to a game and see how we are playing and have a look at our results if you think Pardew should be sacked. He's the best manager in this league by a mile.

[up and away]

Are you for real? You think letting Gillett leave is worthy of Pardew getting the sack?

 

Even if we don't buy anyone in January (although clearly we will) Hammond and Schneiderlin are infinitely better than Gillett will ever be and Wotton and James are also superior. Even Gobern I reckon would be as good as Gillett in the middle of the park. That's more than enough cover without the inevitable signings.

 

Go to a game and see how we are playing and have a look at our results if you think Pardew should be sacked. He's the best manager in this league by a mile.

 

I suggest you actually look at what is happening on the field. If we don't have control of the midfield, we cannot guarantee any sort of result. I thought this would be obvious to even your limited vision. Just recently the midfield has been working with the last two games, but we have all seen it fall apart previously with ease. Wooton is not a starter from previous games when we start with Lallana, Connolly and Lambert. Where are you going to turn if we start to have any sort of problem? The logic in not getting Gillett back is totally dumb, even if you never use him.

 

If we fail to give ourselves maximum chances in getting into the play off's it is totally stupid. We should have got Gillett back and given him a cup game or subs appearance to see if what he has been doing at Donny can be repeated here. It's an absolute no brainer that would cost us nothing and possibly gain us everything. Take another season in this league and have the possibility of losing Lallana and maybe one more decent player? Is it really worth it for the minimal salary of a couple of weeks in December. This is shear stupidity in letting him stay at Doncaster for the sake of a couple of weeks of minimum wage.

 

I am not saying Gillett will make the difference, but it is totally stupid to not find out when it virtually costs nothing to do so!

[Baird of the land]

Some people need to get with the real world. If we pulled Gillett back all we'd get is a sulky angry player. I say good luck to the boy. He's found somewhere he fits to how the manager plays & we can get some money for him. There's 3 or 4 people ahead of him at saints & we're only a month away from the transfer window when there's planned investment in players. It's a no brainer

[St Landrew]

...I am not saying Gillett will make the difference, but it is totally stupid to not find out when it virtually costs nothing to do so!

 

I see the point you're making, and it is a valid one. However, Gillett isn't the only fish in the sea, and Saints no longer have to keep players they don't want. After years of being on the fringes, it's clear [to him] that he's never going to become a regular Saints player, unless something happens in the next few weeks to turn the Southampton footballing world over. Simon has been around the Saints fringes for years now, and the first team just keeps passing him by. If not for anything but for the lad's sake, it's time to let him go, so that he can play some regular football.

 

Incidentally, do people realise he's now 24..? His football life is passing him by, and he plays about 10+ games a year, mostly coming on as a second half, or last minute substitute. If I had the prospect of a club wanting me to play for them regularly, I'd want to go too.

[Huntingdon]

Get rid.... not good enough. 5 ft 7 my ass, he's about 5 ft 3

 

 

I met him in Tesco, Ocean Village recently

 

I'm only 5ft 8 and he was considerably shorter than me

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Simon has been around the Saints fringes for years now, and the first team just keeps passing him by. If not for anything but for the lad's sake, it's time to let him go, so that he can play some regular football.

 

Agree with a reasonable fee

[The9]

I'd agree with all of that. Why Pardew has played Gillett in the most forward of the midfield during pre season and as a sub is beyond me.

 

One thing that sticks in my mind is a home game this season (I think Millwall) when shortly after Gillet was brought on he miscontrolled and then lost posession in a very dangerous area and we were in serious trouble. I think they went on to score from a resulting corner.

 

The thing that stuck in my mind was that every time we brought him on the first pass he got was always facing his own goal in his own half with a midfielder biting at his ankles.

 

I think he's a competent player at the standard he's playing, but Pardew wanted us to have a taller midfield so we'd get the ball occasionally from aerial challenges, rather than losing everything from throw-ins, goal kicks and hoofs like we seemed to last season. (NB Scheiderlin is terrible at heading and only average height). At the time we didn't have any taller players to fit in alongside him, and now he probably wouldn't get in the team. At the start of the season alongside James, James looked the better player - not least because Gillett didn't get to play defensive midfield for us this season.

 

He does have incredible speed though, when we played Blackpool away last season he came on as sub in Lancs and yet was in VIP (ok, upstairs) in 90 Degrees by 10pm that evening.

Edited 8 December, 2009 by The9

[West End Saint]

I think we should sell any sort of fee would do a decent player always gave 100% but too small he isnt in AP's plans so we are better off with some money in & 1 off the wage bill

[St Landrew]

 

I met him in Tesco, Ocean Village recently

 

I'm only 5ft 8 and he was considerably shorter than me

 

2ins shorter. He's 5ft 6ins.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Gillett

[sidthesquid]

I wanted the lad to succeed last season, but I'm not sorry to see him go. We will be above Donny by this time next year anyway. He goes with my blessing & I hope it works out for him, but I don't think we'll ever regret letting him go

[NI76]

I suggest you actually look at what is happening on the field. If we don't have control of the midfield, we cannot guarantee any sort of result. I thought this would be obvious to even your limited vision. Just recently the midfield has been working with the last two games, but we have all seen it fall apart previously with ease. Wooton is not a starter from previous games when we start with Lallana, Connolly and Lambert. Where are you going to turn if we start to have any sort of problem? The logic in not getting Gillett back is totally dumb, even if you never use him.

 

I do, we are winning the vast majority of games we are playing without Gillett within 200 miles. I suggest you have a look at our results since he left.

 

Where are we going to turn if we have problems? As I've already said, we have Wotton, James and Gobern all of whom are as good as or better than Gillett.

 

Some people will find problems even when they don't exist.

[Leicestersaint]

Gillett has a lot mroe ability and motivation than a lot of 'experts' on here seem to realise - I wish him well and will not be at all surprised if he does do very well in the future.

 

There are too many knockers on here!

[krissyboy31]

Sorry, I just don't think he's very good. He's had ample opportunity under half a dozen managers to nail down a first team place. At 24 he is no longer a promising youngster and if he can't get in the team now, then he's never going to get in the team. I won't be losing too much sleep about us selling him on.

[Clifford Nelson]

He was my favourite player from last year, but after a period of being frustrated because he wasn't playing I became clear that his talents weren't wanted in the team AP is putting together. He is a great lad with plenty of bravery and effort, and I wish him the best of luck. He was clearly going to do well in a team playing a different style from AP's.

[silversaint]

Doesn't look like we're going to get much for him!

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Southampton-s-Simon-Gillett-set-for-Doncaster-move-article250741.html?

[Hatch]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2765580/More-of-todays-football-stories.html

 

£50,000 to Donny according to todays Sun. About the same amount as we sponsored him for.

[krissyboy31]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2765580/More-of-todays-football-stories.html

 

£50,000 to Donny according to todays Sun. About the same amount as we sponsored him for.

 

Can we have a refund?

[Bailey]

£50,000 seems very, very cheap. When does his contract expire? In our position, I would expect we'd be able to get a little bit more. Signing Gillett for such a nominal fee will be a great bit of business for Donny.

[doughnutman]

50k does seem very very low to be fair. I was expecting it to be a fee somewhere inbetween 150k-250k but Doncaster really are getting are bargain if that is the case.

[Scudamore]

Be interested to see what his wages are. Not saying i think they'll be high...just curious.

[up and away]

Originally Posted by up and away

...I am not saying Gillett will make the difference, but it is totally stupid to not find out when it virtually costs nothing to do so!

I see the point you're making, and it is a valid one. However, Gillett isn't the only fish in the sea, and Saints no longer have to keep players they don't want. After years of being on the fringes, it's clear [to him] that he's never going to become a regular Saints player, unless something happens in the next few weeks to turn the Southampton footballing world over. Simon has been around the Saints fringes for years now, and the first team just keeps passing him by. If not for anything but for the lad's sake, it's time to let him go, so that he can play some regular football.

 

Incidentally, do people realise he's now 24..? His football life is passing him by, and he plays about 10+ games a year, mostly coming on as a second half, or last minute substitute. If I had the prospect of a club wanting me to play for them regularly, I'd want to go too.

 

I am not sure you fully appreciate the implications, but it is possible you may with the injury to Murty. I am not really worried whether we keep Gillett after the January window, if we can replace him with someone equal or better, Gillett's future is the least of my concerns. What does concern me is the amount of fixtures we have before we can get in a capable replacement and the possible damage that may have on our ability to reach the play off's. Pardew had at last found a solution allowing him to start with Lambert, Connolly and Lallana and still have a midfield that does not fold against the likes of Brighton. That included Murty who is no longer available for this heavy fixture period.

 

We have already given Doncaster an extension, so the option of Gillett maybe remote.

He was my favourite player from last year, but after a period of being frustrated because he wasn't playing I became clear that his talents weren't wanted in the team AP is putting together. He is a great lad with plenty of bravery and effort, and I wish him the best of luck. He was clearly going to do well in a team playing a different style from AP's.

But this is it, Doncaster play a very similar passing game to Saints, with Gillett holding the midfield together. Getting praise from their supporters, at a level higher and against better opposition.

 

We dropped points against Brighton and Norwich which could have been avoided. After the Norwich game which had to be the best entertainment so far this season, I thought someone like Billy Davies would have come away with a nasty 1 goal win. At the time I would far prefer the entertainment to some of the gruesome deliveries served up by Derby under Davies, but in the grand scheme of things, what is the most important? It is vital we give ourselves the maximum opportunity to get out of this league this season. Because of the implication it has on keeping hold of our better players.

 

Pardew has dropped the ball a couple of times in regard to maximising our chances of getting into the play off's, this just looks another example. If we make it into the play off's, all's forgiven and this is just academic. In the grand scheme of things it does not worry if it's Pardew, Davies or Mick McCarthy getting us into the Premier, as long as it's done in the shortest possible time. Others may argue over the time issue, but looking at what McCarthy did with Wolves and Davies is doing with Forest, it does not look that much of a burden to watch. Because at the end of the day if you have the money to keep the team in the Premier, would any of these managers be first choice, irrespective of their ability to get into the Premier?

[Thedelldays]

why are people so mad...Gillet was a ray of light in the worst team we have had for decades....does not make him that good.

 

with the players we have and the results coming I can see why pards will let him go...we now go after better players