saint lard Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 (edited) http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Vanessa-George-Case-Leads-To-New-Arrest-Woman-Charged-With-Three-Offences-Against-A-Child/Article/200910215404506?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15404506_Vanessa_George_Case_Leads_To_New_Arrest%3A_Woman_Charged_With_Three_Offences_Against_A_Child_ It is claimed she has connections to Colin Blanchard,Georges' fellow defendant,who distributed the images. All according to BBC news and Sky News Edited 12 October, 2009 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 In Portsmouth I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 I think she has seven kids and another one on the way. Its a ****ed up world at times with some ****ed up people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2009 I think she has seven kids and another one on the way. Its a ****ed up world at times with some ****ed up people. Not being pedantic...but,on the news a few moments it said she has 8 kids and another on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2009 On the BBC iplayer at 21.30 they will be showing the inside out programme,the South West version, this shows unseen video footage and recorded police interviews with Vanessa George. From the snippets i have seen, it is..well,i don't know how to describe it really,i just wanted to scream at her,especially when she refuses to name the children she took photos of and the ones she abused, for the families' sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 One of the guys at work had his kids at that nursery in Plymouth. He is utterly devastated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 what really dismays me about this story (and the vanessa george one) is that these are WOMEN, and even worse than that, they are MOTHERS!!!!!..i don't mean that to sound naive or sexist, but child abuse and paedophilia has always been seen as a 'male' dominated crime (if ya know what i mean), and this has really opened my eyes to how downright evil some women can be . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 This is the sort if beyond reasonable doub case that deseres the harshes sentances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2009 One of the guys at work had his kids at that nursery in Plymouth. He is utterly devastated. He deserves to know if his child was one of his victims,if he dosen't already. I was relieved that after speaking to the police that my ex next door nieghbour,who is currently serving his sentance(only 5 months i may add) did not have any images/photos of my little boy.Saying that he did have 112 pics and videos of other parents' children,i cannot imagine what that must be like to know that has happened to your child and what effects it will have later in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 They should release the evidence, and then release the dirty bas+ards to get what comes to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 They should release the evidence, and then release the dirty bas+ards to get what comes to them. i should imagine they are being 'dealt' with in prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 what really dismays me about this story (and the vanessa george one) is that these are WOMEN, and even worse than that, they are MOTHERS!!!!!..i don't mean that to sound naive or sexist, but child abuse and paedophilia has always been seen as a 'male' dominated crime (if ya know what i mean), and this has really opened my eyes to how downright evil some women can be . Myra Hindlay? Evil as Fook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 Myra Hindlay? Evil as Fook! was Myra Hindley a mother??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 what really dismays me about this story (and the vanessa george one) is that these are WOMEN, and even worse than that, they are MOTHERS!!!!!..i don't mean that to sound naive or sexist, but child abuse and paedophilia has always been seen as a 'male' dominated crime (if ya know what i mean), and this has really opened my eyes to how downright evil some women can be . I'm afraid to say that although the majority of paedophiles are men, there is thought to be a significant number of crimes committed by women but they either go unreported or are never discovered. Sad but true. One thing though, why do we put women on a pedestal in regards to their children? Isn't it just as awful that some fathers are also paedophiles? This supposed wonderful bond between a mother and her children is driven by societies expectations of a mother. Look at the horror on peoples faces when it's "acceptable" for a man to walk out on his children but for a mother it's unthinkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I'm afraid to say that although the majority of paedophiles are men, there is thought to be a significant number of crimes committed by women but they either go unreported or are never discovered. Sad but true. One thing though, why do we put women on a pedestal in regards to their children? Isn't it just as awful that some fathers are also paedophiles? This supposed wonderful bond between a mother and her children is driven by societies expectations of a mother. Look at the horror on peoples faces when it's "acceptable" for a man to walk out on his children but for a mother it's unthinkable. you're absolutely right. Women walking out on their husband and kids does seem FAR worse than when a man leaves . Like you say, it's all about societies pre-conceived idea of how a mother is supposed to 'be there' for her children,regardless of the circumstances. i think that what hits home mostly for me (and 99% of women/mothers) is that the 'protective instinct' i have for my kids is so strong that i just cannot comprehend how any mother can betray a child's trust and take their innocence in such a savage and disgusting manner. A father abusing his child is ,of course, an equallly disgusting act,yet we as a society seem to be more accustomed to hearing that on the news than hearing about a MOTHER doing it,ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 October, 2009 She,and her family, sound like model Portsmouth citizens;) http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2679960/Mum-held-over-paedo-photos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I know this is a serious subject but: Lyons lived with her bus driver husband Davy and six of her children, aged three to 14, in a run-down four-bedroom council house in the Fratton area of Portsmouth. Yesterday the front garden was strewn with rubbish, abandoned children's toys, black rubbish sacks and overturned flower pots. lol. On the other hand, I do despair at these sort of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyLass Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 She,and her family, sound like model Portsmouth citizens;) http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2679960/Mum-held-over-paedo-photos.html Trust someone like you to bring this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Trust someone like you to bring this up. Explain yourself please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 what really dismays me about this story is that these are WOMEN, and even worse than that, they are MOTHERS!!!!!..i don't mean that to sound naive or sexist, but child abuse and paedophilia has always been seen as a 'male' dominated crime (if ya know what i mean), and this has really opened my eyes to how downright evil some women can be . The amount of Mothers that are complicit in these crimes would probably cause further dismay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 shows how much you can rely on CRB checks, just another government tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 shows how much you can rely on CRB checks' date=' just another government tax[/quote'] exactly......they can only check to see if you have a criminal record. obviously if you have been clever/slippery/lucky enough to avoid getting caught then there IS no record...... what a sad state of affairs that you cannot even trust an Ofsted approved centre,with all it's guidelines/mission statements/regulations etc to protect and take care of your children..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 shows how much you can rely on CRB checks' date=' just another government tax[/quote'] Er, well they are a test for criminal records - everyone knows that is what they are and so everyone knows they are not a guarantee of good behaviour in the future. Do you not think it would be perverse not to check if someone has a record though? (I agree that the charges for things like this though do often seem rather high) exactly......they can only check to see if you have a criminal record. obviously if you have been clever/slippery/lucky enough to avoid getting caught then there IS no record...... what a sad state of affairs that you cannot even trust an Ofsted approved centre,with all it's guidelines/mission statements/regulations etc to protect and take care of your children..... Well, people wanting to abuse children will be attracted to jobs where there are a lot of children around. It has always been so. At the end of the day you have to delegate the responsibility to individuals and obviously they will be deceptive. Sad but true, but it's pretty rare. Obviously our paedo-obssessed media loves to get excited about this sort of thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 October, 2009 You don't have to have a CRB check done for 3 yrs after the initial one was done. So between the time the first check was done someone could commit a crime and then that may not come to light until you re-apply for the CRB. CRB checks don't show any accusations of a crime commited,only if they are found guilty and convicted. So a person could go for an age racking up accusations but if know substantial evidence is found to convict them they are free to do whatever they please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 So a person could go for an age racking up accusations but if know substantial evidence is found to convict them they are free to do whatever they please. That sounds suspiciously like the way it's supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 That sounds suspiciously like the way it's supposed to be. Indeed. I believe it's called "freedom". Apparently it was fashionable once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 14 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 October, 2009 That sounds suspiciously like the way it's supposed to be. Yeah,i know what you mean.Perhaps i didn't explain it correctly. But i'm sure you get my gist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 14 October, 2009 Share Posted 14 October, 2009 what really dismays me about this story (and the vanessa george one) is that these are WOMEN, and even worse than that, they are MOTHERS!!!!!..i don't mean that to sound naive or sexist, but child abuse and paedophilia has always been seen as a 'male' dominated crime (if ya know what i mean), and this has really opened my eyes to how downright evil some women can be . Most women I know are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 14 October, 2009 Share Posted 14 October, 2009 Only a matter of time before a lynch mob starts burning down paediatricians offices in Pompey again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 14 October, 2009 Share Posted 14 October, 2009 Only a matter of time before a lynch mob starts burning down paediatricians offices in Pompey again... Seeing how she lives in Fratton, they'll probably end up setting light to Fratton Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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