NickG Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Was talking to someone about left backs and we were trying to remember who had held the No3 shirt over the years - thinking that Harding may be a decent LB for a while. Not so much players for odds few games, or even just one season but who made the postion their own. The LB's that stand out for me are; Wayne Bridge Frannie Benali Mick Mills David Peach Who do you think justifies being remembered? Almost like a family tree for the position. RB - Golac, Dodd...etc
dubai_phil Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Mark Dennis, David Peach was more reliable IMHO but Psycho gave us that bit extra
NickG Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Posted 5 October, 2009 forgot Mark Dennis! Did coincide with time I didn't go as much tho due to working away
krissyboy31 Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Not here for long but Gareth Bale wasn't bad. Derek Statham was a decent player for us as well, even if he was slightly past his best by the time he signed.
NickG Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Posted 5 October, 2009 thought about Bale but think he was just passing thro.
krissyboy31 Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 thought about Bale but think he was just passing thro. Yes but only because of the position financially and league wise we were in. The others may well have passed through if we were languishing in the second tier and with bugger all money.
notnowcato Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Agboola, Holmes and Nichol as centre backs. Shilton between the sticks. Steve Williams owning the centre of the park.... I could dream on
Saints4Prem Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Showing my age as a young boy I recall seeing Dennis Hollywood an uncompromising left back. I have a vague recollection that he took out Mike Summerbee who he had been kicking around all game, Summerbee had had enough, lost it and ended up getting sent off. From childhood memories Hollywood made Mark Dennis seem like a pussycat.
The9 Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Is this where a resident pedant points out that Harding wears the number 2 shirt ? Ok, moving on now.
Gis Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Neil Ruddock at the back - although most fond memories are of the way he used to terrorise the penalty area the other end whenever we got a corner. Brian O'Neil - my No. 1 midfield hard man (Case, Hurlock, Williams, just pussies in comparison)
St.Jeweller Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 I remember a spell during i think the early 90's that for some reason Russell Osman started taking free-kicks and it seemed like he scored 5/6 goals in about 10 games a real secret weapon.......move over MLT
rpb Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Showing my age as a young boy I recall seeing Dennis Hollywood an uncompromising left back. I have a vague recollection that he took out Mike Summerbee who he had been kicking around all game, Summerbee had had enough, lost it and ended up getting sent off. From childhood memories Hollywood made Mark Dennis seem like a pussycat. In an article at that time Summerbee rated Hollywood as one of the hardest men playing as he was 'totally mad and kept coming back at me when I kicked him'.
Red Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 Mark Dennis was defo the best ever left back - much much better than Bale or Bridge - absolutely mean that - just his "bad boy" image stopped him from being an England hero. What about Steele and Mark Wright for CB's? Has to be Nick Holmes for RB. MLT, Ball, Keegan and Williams for MF - not sure how balanced that is mind - but I'm sure they will cope. Upfront is tricky - Channon (got to be), McDougall (loved him - no pace, but deadly from 12 yards). Loved Osgood too but not a regular goal getter. Shearer probably had his best years after he left us? Jordan was fun as was Bowyer, George and the Wallace brothers (again, I think their best was after they left us). In goal - Shilton? maybe, but for me it has to be Antti Niemi.
Arizona Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 I don't think the #3 has been a LB since we were in the Prem. Thomas for the last three years, Pele and Kosowski before that. Bale and Bridge were the only two I look back on fondly from my era. Brennan did a decent enough job for a couple of months. Skacel filled the gap well enough, but every time I saw him it was disheartening knowing it was such a waste. Higgy was always a CB, Le Saux was too old and slow. Then at the far end of the spectrum we have O'Halloran, Bernard and Makin.
Red Posted 5 October, 2009 Posted 5 October, 2009 I don't think the #3 has been a LB since we were in the Prem. Thomas for the last three years, Pele and Kosowski before that. Bale and Bridge were the only two I look back on fondly from my era. Brennan did a decent enough job for a couple of months. Skacel filled the gap well enough, but every time I saw him it was disheartening knowing it was such a waste. Higgy was always a CB, Le Saux was too old and slow. bThen at the far end of the spectrum we haveb O'Halloran, Bernard and Makin. Lee Todd???
Toussaint Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 GK - Kat, Wells, Genoe, Shilts, Budgie, Anti, Flowers LB - Dennis, Bridge RB - Golac, Dodd, Kenna CB - Nichol, Watson, Killer, Claus Mid - Williams, Ball, Le Tiss, Mills, Worthington, Peter Reid (Briefly), Ronnie, Eyal Strikers / Wingers - Rodney, Shearer, Beattie, Marian, Mickey Adams (kept us up), Boyer, Joe Jordan Could go on, we have had some bloody good keepers over the years!
Deanovski Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 sad as a young saint players i remember are skacel,walcott, rasiak etc... sad really but obviously le tiss
ericofarabia Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 The No 9 Shirt = Ron Davies. The No 7 Shirt = Matty, but very good supporting cast of Terry Paine, Alan Ball and a cameo role from Keegan.
Nutwood2 Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Best left back. Steve Mills. Would have gone on to captain England without a doubt. R.I.P. Stevie boy.
dubai_phil Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Mark Dennis was defo the best ever left back - much much better than Bale or Bridge - absolutely mean that - just his "bad boy" image stopped him from being an England hero. What about Steele and Mark Wright for CB's? Has to be Nick Holmes for RB. MLT, Ball, Keegan and Williams for MF - not sure how balanced that is mind - but I'm sure they will cope. Upfront is tricky - Channon (got to be), McDougall (loved him - no pace, but deadly from 12 yards). Loved Osgood too but not a regular goal getter. Shearer probably had his best years after he left us? Jordan was fun as was Bowyer, George and the Wallace brothers (again, I think their best was after they left us). In goal - Shilton? maybe, but for me it has to be Antti Niemi. Showing my age here but Holmes was as totally one footed as Armstrong - his left - the few times I remember him on the right were not his better days. How about our best ever Sweeper - Reuben Agboola - system never worked before or after and he wasn't the greatest footballer in the world, but it worked while he was there
John B Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Harding somehow reminds me of Dennis Hollywood in the way that he runs around the pitch Dennis was one of the hardest players I ever saw playing for Saints Tommy Traynor the Irish International Left Backs was one of my favorite players a left back who helped us to gain promotion from Div 3
John B Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 The No 9 Shirt = Ron Davies. The No 7 Shirt = Matty, but very good supporting cast of Terry Paine, Alan Ball and a cameo role from Keegan. No 7 would definitely be Paine the best allround footballer I ever saw playing for SFC like MLT keeping us in the Premiership it was probably Paine that got us to Div 1 in the first place. We then got relegated when he got older and became a less er player
skinner Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 John McGrath leaving Kenny Hibbett flat out in the penalty area as he walked off at half time.
John Smith Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 I must be the only one then that thinks Harding plays the left back role in a similar fashion to another England possible (I think he got a couple of caps though) and that is Derek Statham. Del Boy received player of the year I believe, somewhere around 88, 89, 90. He was dependable and secure, largely faultless in his play. Harding reminds me of him in that same secure, no nonsense way. Does what is required, no messing. Certainly, Psycho Mark D, was a better 'player' and I would have him in, in an instant. But, as far as picking a left back that you can rely on and trust, Statham and Harding must fall into these categories. Do a difficult job, very well!
NickG Posted 6 October, 2009 Author Posted 6 October, 2009 Yes but only because of the position financially and league wise we were in. The others may well have passed through if we were languishing in the second tier and with bugger all money. its not a criticism of him, just he wasn't here long enough.
NickG Posted 6 October, 2009 Author Posted 6 October, 2009 some good names to remember! I was thinking, not so much the best - but almost a family tree for the position - proper custodians of the shirt not people passing through - even if they were better!
Gemmel Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Micky Adams played left back for a while ( I think)
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 GK= Shilton, Flowers, Niemi CB= Nichol, Wright, Ruddock, Svensson, RB= Golac, Dodd LB= Holmes, Dennis(for entertainment purposes) Benali, Bridge MF= Baker, Keegan, Case, Williams, MLT, Marsden UF= Channon, Worthington, Moran, D Wallace, Shearer, R Wallace(No, not Raymond !!!) Beattie
Winnersaint Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 GK - Eric Martin possibly due to his resemblance to Harpo Marx than for his goalkeeping prowess. RB - Ivan Golac, Joe Kirkup, because he always seemed to marking the penalty spot. LB - Dennis Hollywood, David Peach, Mark Dennis, Mick Mills Midfield - Steve Williams, Bally, David Armstrong Wingers - Paine, Sydenham Forwards - Davies, Channon, Le Tiss, Boyer, Worthington, plus two others both of whom contributed greatly by scoring in promotion seasons. Norman Dean 1966 and Tony Funnell 1978.
krissyboy31 Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Nick Holmes was much more of a Left or Central midfield player than a full-back.
dronskisaint Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 'I must be the only one then that thinks Harding plays the left back role in a similar fashion to another England possible (I think he got a couple of caps though) and that is Derek Statham.' Good comparison...from the little I've seen he has the same calmness & positional sense & desire to go forward....not seen evidence yet of the shot Statham had in his repertoire.
saintquin Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Best left back. Steve Mills. Would have gone on to captain England without a doubt. R.I.P. Stevie boy. Agreed Nutwood2, Steve Mills could have probably been one off the best backs in England ever (imho). Played almost like the wing backs we see now. But, I seem to remember him flying down the right.
unionhotel Posted 6 October, 2009 Posted 6 October, 2009 Nobody's mentioned Docker Walker and the famous "Ale House Footballers"
The9 Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 I don't think the #3 has been a LB since we were in the Prem. Thomas for the last three years, Pele and Kosowski before that. Oooh, Kosowski, good knowledge, I'd completely forgotten he existed. I think you're right on the "left back not #3" thing too.
Clifford Nelson Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 Was talking to someone about left backs and we were trying to remember who had held the No3 shirt over the years - thinking that Harding may be a decent LB for a while. Not so much players for odds few games, or even just one season but who made the postion their own. The LB's that stand out for me are; Wayne Bridge Frannie Benali Mick Mills David Peach Who do you think justifies being remembered? Almost like a family tree for the position. RB - Golac, Dodd...etc Did you forget Mickey Adams? We also mostly missed out on one who was always played on the right although he was left footed, Jeff Kenna. Him and Benali kept Dodds in the reserves. Both of them were better players than Franny, who could never pass to one of his own, but they lacked his aura, whatever that was.
Arizona Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 Gregory Vignal on his day! Oh yes! I was at the Leicester cup game when he turned his game around from an indifferent start. Made some absolute monster tackles and was getting booed by the Fox fans by the end of it. Fair tackles too, didn't get booked until he got a bit over-zealous and left a player needing CPR. Best penalty taker since Beatts and Marian left too.
Kingsland Codger Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 GK - Kat, Wells, Genoe, Shilts, Budgie, Anti, Flowers LB - Dennis, Bridge RB - Golac, Dodd, Kenna CB - Nichol, Watson, Killer, Claus Mid - Williams, Ball, Le Tiss, Mills, Worthington, Peter Reid (Briefly), Ronnie, Eyal Strikers / Wingers - Rodney, Shearer, Beattie, Marian, Mickey Adams (kept us up), Boyer, Joe Jordan Could go on, we have had some bloody good keepers over the years! Amongst them ... Dexter Blackstock
Gemmel Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 Where did Patrick Colleter play? Wasn't he a full back as well
Deano6 Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 Neil Heaney, Shayne Bradley, Matt Robinson, Berry Venison, Neil Maddison, Craig Maskell, Ulrich Van Gobbel, Patrick Colleter, Alexei Cherednik, Nicky Banger
david in sweden Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 Was talking to someone about left backs and we were trying to remember who had held the No3 shirt over the years - thinking that Harding may be a decent LB for a while. Not so much players for odds few games, or even just one season but who made the postion their own. The LB's that stand out for me are; Wayne Bridge Frannie Benali Mick Mills David Peach Who do you think justifies being remembered? Almost like a family tree for the position. ...but let's not forget Tommy Traynor at left back played almost 500 games between 1952 -1966, and 8 caps for Eire, too A Great club man
Rattlehead Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 sad as a young saint players i remember are skacel,walcott, rasiak etc... sad really but obviously le tiss Ehhhhhhhhh?????
SFC Forever Posted 7 October, 2009 Posted 7 October, 2009 John McGrath leaving Kenny Hibbett flat out in the penalty area as he walked off at half time. Big John left many so called hard men flat and not all lucky enough to be on their back. Brian O'niell and Dennis Hollywood would have made our defence just a little more fearsome as well.
sarum saint Posted 8 October, 2009 Posted 8 October, 2009 Was talking to someone about left backs and we were trying to remember who had held the No3 shirt over the years - thinking that Harding may be a decent LB for a while. Not so much players for odds few games, or even just one season but who made the postion their own. The LB's that stand out for me are; Wayne Bridge Frannie Benali Mick Mills David Peach Who do you think justifies being remembered? Almost like a family tree for the position. RB - Golac, Dodd...etc Dereck Statham only here for short time but a class player in my opinion
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