lordswoodsaints Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 A. its not the law, ITS GOVERMENT POLICY! B. All the moaners in the Itchen?? I've had my seat moved 4 times in 3 seasons, I'm a customer ffs, surely I'm entitled to voice my dissatisfaction. C. Why are you so dismissive of your fellow fans rights??? A. Its the rules of st marys,you are fully aware of the rules when you enter the ground and the consequences if you don't obey......you may wish to break those rules (and I am fully behind breaking rules as I hate being told what to do) but don't moan about the consequences. B. One of your main concerns is that you can't have banter with away fans,now I don't know how old you are but anybody over the age of 20 wishing to have a bit of banter is a bit cringey if I'm honest,I hope you are not one of those middle aged arsewipes who stand up on their own,arms stretched wide offering the whole of the away section outside for a ruck or giving it the wa@nker sign when their striker slices it wide......I'm sorry that you have to move your seat but there are more important issues that need to be addressed at the club.I have sat in every part of the ground including the boxes and hospitality and tbf the view is much the same wherever you sit,try a different part of the stadium you might be pleasantly surprised. C. It was slightly Tongue in cheek but it was also dismissive as I don't really give a fook about any of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Lordswood, we all know that sitting down is the rules, but the steward in question is far too much of a tw*t about it. He may be a lovely guy as Nickh has claimed, but there is really no need to irritate/wind people up to the point of starting a full blown arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Bloody silly idea i think and yet another attempt to 'cleanse' the Itchen for the corporates. The corners were closed to save money because nobody wants to sit there when there is anywhere else to go. To open them up now and claim it's to create a better atmosphere is nonsense. I don't anticipate a stampede of fans from block 4/5 moving to the corner. But like other posters have said I resent not being able to buy extra tickets for mates to sit with me. A fact that is already costing the club money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Going on the reaction of some. You could hve been mistaken that the club has asked some to cut their own faces off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Going on the reaction of some. You could hve been mistaken that the club has asked some to cut their own faces off So you would find it totally reasonable if you paid money to go and enjoy a football match, to suddenly find you have a big orange bloke shouting in your ear all game long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Lordswood, we all know that sitting down is the rules, but the steward in question is far too much of a tw*t about it. He may be a lovely guy as Nickh has claimed, but there is really no need to irritate/wind people up to the point of starting a full blown arguement. Can you not see why. He will be dealing with plenty of utter morons every home game who go out of their way to be awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Can you not see why. He will be dealing with plenty of utter morons every home game who go out of their way to be awkward. Trust me, HE is going out of his way to make a situation out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 I am with Jason here. When you consider that the reasons given are focussed on focussing the vocal support, then the club have got this completely arse about face. And not really that clever getting Kelvin involved imo either. If the club want more vehement support, then open the whole of the Itchen North. I personally would like the club to get us (Itchen North) into the Northam East section, being able to see the whites of the away fans eyes in the Itchen. I do however accept that this would upset and alienate some fans, and sad it may sound but I do care about my fellow fans feelings. Where is this leading? Why can not someone within the club be a bit more honest with this? Are you planning on moving the away fans to the Itchen North? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 What the f???? Put my own selfish needs above the needs of the club?? I'm paying my own money to sit in the stadium, how the fook am I being selfish by saying I want to sit in the section that i've paid for, for the last 7 years???? Don't you dare judge me on how I bring my daughter up you sanctimonious tw4t. So if I do as you and the club suggest and move to the more vocal section 'the extended northam' they won't sing 'my old man' etc etc?? Tell you what mooooosh, have your cling filmed club, all nice and clean and sanitised, everyone sat down, no swearing, no banter, no life, you keep it because that is not the game I fell in love with 25 years ago! There was already a thread on this, but you had to start your own little one. Little attention seeker, are we? You can hardly accuse me of being a sanitised, sit down, no swearing, no banter fan, as I have always been block 42 behind the goal in the Northam, so as close as the away fans as it is possible to be. I wouldn't take an 8 year old daughter to the Northam, but if your standards aren't as high as mine, then it's up to you how you bring up your children. No point in the nine o'clock TV watershed in your household is there? And was it the football you fell in love with 25 years ago, or was it the swearing, banter, insanitary environment? Anyway, whatever it was, it seems that having supported the saints for 25 years, you are prepared to give it up just because you can't sit in a certain part of the stadium. Diddums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 "Indonesia's National Disaster Management Agency said 83,712 houses, 200 public buildings and 285 schools were destroyed. Another 100,000 buildings and 20 miles of road were badly damaged. Five bridges collapsed. A full death toll has not yet been calculated. The government at one point said 715 were dead and 3,000 were missing. But Sunday it changed its tally to 603 killed, with another 960 missing and believed dead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Christ on a bike, it's a big red identikit stadium that looks the same from all angles, does it really matter? I've sat in all four stands, as long as I'm at the game, I don't care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Christ on a bike, it's a big red identikit stadium that looks the same from all angles, does it really matter? I've sat in all four stands, as long as I'm at the game, I don't care! "I" and "you" are two completely different entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 At the end of the day the only thing that any football club wants from it's fans is their money,they don't care about us but they do care what's in our purses/wallets. In a perfect world the club would like you to pay £30 per fan per week and then play games behind closed doors. It's harsh and I am sorry that people have to move seats but it's not really the end of the world is it? If clubs were only allowed to live within their means,only be allowed to spend what is generated through the turnstiles then the level of customer service would be second to none but the harsh reality is that clubs don't need their fans,especially premiership clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 "Indonesia's National Disaster Management Agency said 83,712 houses, 200 public buildings and 285 schools were destroyed. Another 100,000 buildings and 20 miles of road were badly damaged. Five bridges collapsed. A full death toll has not yet been calculated. The government at one point said 715 were dead and 3,000 were missing. But Sunday it changed its tally to 603 killed, with another 960 missing and believed dead." How dare you belittle the real argument of the day by introducing such trivial matters to the debate! :mad: :smt021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I have asked David Luker the situation and he is getting clarification which I am awaiting. In the interim, the ticket office have been instructed that season ticket holders in Blocks 4/5 can buy additional tickets for ajacent empty seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Well done Derry. The club were not prepared to sell tickets in block 5 on friday. This is already looking like a U turn. And as for all the people saying it doesn't matter where you sit because the view is the same all round the stadium..... If that were true, why have the club charged more for centre seats since SMS was built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2009 There was already a thread on this, but you had to start your own little one. Little attention seeker, are we? You can hardly accuse me of being a sanitised, sit down, no swearing, no banter fan, as I have always been block 42 behind the goal in the Northam, so as close as the away fans as it is possible to be. I wouldn't take an 8 year old daughter to the Northam, but if your standards aren't as high as mine, then it's up to you how you bring up your children. No point in the nine o'clock TV watershed in your household is there? And was it the football you fell in love with 25 years ago, or was it the swearing, banter, insanitary environment? Anyway, whatever it was, it seems that having supported the saints for 25 years, you are prepared to give it up just because you can't sit in a certain part of the stadium. Diddums. Please read the opening post westender. As for what goes on in my house, my daughter is in bed, washed and read to by 8 o'clock, but on the odd occasion she is treated to stay up till 10 o'clock and take in a game, I hope that is ok by you. You wouldn't take an 8 year old to The Northam, I don't want to either that is pretty much my point mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Dear Sir's, I've read with dismay your intention to restrict the Itchen North stand to season ticket holders only. I feel extremely let down and alienated by this decision. I own 2 no. season tickets, 1 for me and one for my son. Evening games I like to take my 8 year old daughter as I can't on Saturdays as she dances. With your new policy it means I can no longer take her,my wife, nephew or niece as they are only occasional fans. Yet again I'm left here thinking 'am I really respected or wanted as a fan'? So by one swift flick of a pen you have lost 4 occasional paying customers, crazy! Jason I realise there is a couple of threads on this subject and the Mod's may choose to lock this one, but I feel its extremely important and also feel the that club are scoring an own goal here and should be told now, before its to late! Reply from David Luker Hi Jason I would need to seek clarification on this point, but until this occurs I would suggest that we allow season ticket holders in this area to buy extra tickets as/when required. The ticket office staff have been instructed accordingly Best wishes David David Luker Head of Supporter Services ************************ Thank you David for your quick response to our query. It does seem that this decision was made without any real thought for existing season ticket holders and their guests and or family. Hope to hear clarification soon, Kind regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 To be frank I think this is a situation where the club haven't been open and honest with us from day 1. I have on several occasions gone to get a ticket on match day to be told Itchen North Corner is sold out, only to go in the Kingsland and see loads of empty seats in that very corner. The club have messed up here. IMO the ground generated a much better atmosphere the season before the itchen corner 1, 2 & 3 was closed. People want to be next to the away supporters for the banter and to drown them out singing wise. I remember the game against Bristol City, the year they were really gunning for promotion and we had to win desperately...we drowned them out with noise from both Northam and Itchen stands and I believe this to be a massive factor in us winning the game. The logistics of the seats on offer now don't give us the opportunity to do this....we didn't drown out Bristol Rovers did we!!? why I wonder? Just look at our results at home since we have closed the corner....I am not saying this is entirely to blame but i'm afraid St Marys is so much quiter now these days. I have since given up my season ticket the year the corner was closed and I know quite a few others that have too. Decisions bening made by the high all mighty people that don't understand the true value of the 12th man supporter. Rant over.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 thats that sorted then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Please read the opening post westender. As for what goes on in my house, my daughter is in bed, washed and read to by 8 o'clock, but on the odd occasion she is treated to stay up till 10 o'clock and take in a game, I hope that is ok by you. You wouldn't take an 8 year old to The Northam, I don't want to either that is pretty much my point mate! OK, Jason, fair enough - peace. It seems clear to me that if some substantial changes are to be made to the siting of the away fans, it ought to be made after the end of the season, following consultation with the fans displaced, so that a resolution of the problems can be made with the support of as many fans as possible. I agree with the principle that both ends should be filled with home fans and that the away fans should be placed in a corner, to marginalise their influence. As to which corner that should be, is hampered by considerations of Policing and the position of the exits. From those perspectives, it is understandable that the Itchen/Northam corner is considered, although having the Corporate boxes behind that corner is a consideration. As far as I can see, the Chapel/Kingsland corner would have been the obvious place to have them had this been thought through properly when the stadium first opened for business.There would have been no problems of access to the Industrial Estate, away from the route taken by most home fans. The coaches could also park there, so that we would not have this ridiculous closure of the car park behind the Northam. http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&ss=southampton%20football%20club&cp=sghxh3gwhmtv&style=o&lvl=1&scene=4321377 The trouble with bringing about this change now, would be that effectively I could see the need for a complete swap between the Northam and Chapel, as the main reason that the Northam is popular, the Itchen corner too, is because of the proximity to the away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 thats that sorted then it seems so, but there has been two threads on this, emails from David Luker, a news item on the OS website and yet I still don't have a clue why the club are not selling tickets for this section. Was this discussed at all at the recent Fans meeting? If not why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Reply from David Luker Hi Jason I would need to seek clarification on this point, but until this occurs I would suggest that we allow season ticket holders in this area to buy extra tickets as/when required. The ticket office staff have been instructed accordingly Best wishes David David Luker Head of Supporter Services ************************ Thank you David for your quick response to our query. It does seem that this decision was made without any real thought for existing season ticket holders and their guests and or family. Hope to hear clarification soon, Kind regards, Jason It would also be nice if they could actually explain why normal fans cannot buy tickets there. the club are still employing catering staff and more than enough stewards, with seats ready to be filled why not sell them. A bit of honesty and an explanation as there is still no logic to this decision from what I can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 The good people of Southampton that sit in blocks 4 and 5 and who bought season tickets to do so are now being 'encouraged' to move to the furthest possible corner from the corporates as possible. Our money is good enough, but nothing else. Two months after the new German/Italian regime has taken control and social cleansing has begun. All very sinister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 The good people of Southampton that sit in blocks 4 and 5 and who bought season tickets to do so are now being 'encouraged' to move to the furthest possible corner from the corporates as possible. Our money is good enough, but nothing else. Two months after the new German/Italian regime has taken control and social cleansing has begun. All very sinister. Is this a Godwins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Is this a Godwins? ??? Sorry i must have missed a meeting. Godwins? Is that to do with Social engineeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 from my standpoint i assume the club are not allowing non s/t holders to buy tickets to try and slowly reduce the fans wishing to sit there and so next season it will be easier to relocate the away fans. The Itchen corner seem determined to stand by the away fans for the banter.That is fine but they would get just the same banter by getting tickets alongside them in the northam? Surely their voices would be better served egging on the team from an end where they are likely to be heard by the team. I doubt the Chapel or the rest of the itchen can hear them. I myself dont understand why the concept of having 1 end full of vocal fans cannot be a great bonus to the days enjoyment rather than it being a disadvantage. When buying tickets for the semi final at Villa park did they demand to have tickets away from the saints end and alongside the away fans.Can you not see what a nonsense this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2009 It would also be nice if they could actually explain why normal fans cannot buy tickets there. the club are still employing catering staff and more than enough stewards, with seats ready to be filled why not sell them. A bit of honesty and an explanation as there is still no logic to this decision from what I can see I can only suggest that other fans wanting to buy tickets for this section or fans that are simply interested to know why the club are restricting sale's to e-mail Mr. Luker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down and Out Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 from my standpoint i assume the club are not allowing non s/t holders to buy tickets to try and slowly reduce the fans wishing to sit there and so next season it will be easier to relocate the away fans. The Itchen corner seem determined to stand by the away fans for the banter.That is fine but they would get just the same banter by getting tickets alongside them in the northam? Surely their voices would be better served egging on the team from an end where they are likely to be heard by the team. I doubt the Chapel or the rest of the itchen can hear them. I myself dont understand why the concept of having 1 end full of vocal fans cannot be a great bonus to the days enjoyment rather than it being a disadvantage. When buying tickets for the semi final at Villa park did they demand to have tickets away from the saints end and alongside the away fans.Can you not see what a nonsense this is? Just throwing an idea in, but why not just the Itchen corner and Northam move to The Chapel and then have the whole of one end...now surely 4,000 singing would create a pretty good sound!! And counter 2,000 away fans pretty well. At the end of the day, we are not going to get the Itchen North like it was say 2 years ago...so move on! Nearly every team whether Premiership, CCC or Div 2 has a home end.....we don't!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I myself dont understand why the concept of having 1 end full of vocal fans cannot be a great bonus to the days enjoyment rather than it being a disadvantage. When buying tickets for the semi final at Villa park did they demand to have tickets away from the saints end and alongside the away fans.Can you not see what a nonsense this is? It's not 'one end' though its a corner, that was closed originaly because no bugger wanted to sit there. And it is just being dressed up as getting the vocal support together. What it's really about is getting the great unwashed awaty from the corporates, after taking their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Lordswood, we all know that sitting down is the rules, but the steward in question is far too much of a tw*t about it. He may be a lovely guy as Nickh has claimed, but there is really no need to irritate/wind people up to the point of starting a full blown arguement. I myself believe the stewards do well to keep their cool under stressful circumstances.I get tired of them having to get fans to sit down.many are obviously defiant and that makes the job harder.I have decided to move next season, as it is annoying getting up and down constantly. The fans behind us stand all game and as soon as we have sat down you get stand up if you love the saints etc. Funny if you are already standing but irritating 20 times a game. As for the arguement v B rovers ,i have much sympathy for the lads who had the arguement as they rightly pointed to the away fans all standing and us being inconvienienced. The steward was just doing as he was instructed by the main steward and of course the law of the land.I dont know what the answer is though to stop this problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Just throwing an idea in, but why not just the Itchen corner and Northam move to The Chapel and then have the whole of one end...now surely 4,000 singing would create a pretty good sound!! And counter 2,000 away fans pretty well. At the end of the day, we are not going to get the Itchen North like it was say 2 years ago...so move on! Nearly every team whether Premiership, CCC or Div 2 has a home end.....we don't!!!!! If there was a consensus that the Chapel was going to be a kop end then Id happily move.I want SMS to be intimidating for the away teams...for the away fans not so worried as we are not Millwall or leeds, or even Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2009 from my standpoint i assume the club are not allowing non s/t holders to buy tickets to try and slowly reduce the fans wishing to sit there and so next season it will be easier to relocate the away fans. The Itchen corner seem determined to stand by the away fans for the banter.That is fine but they would get just the same banter by getting tickets alongside them in the northam? Surely their voices would be better served egging on the team from an end where they are likely to be heard by the team. I doubt the Chapel or the rest of the itchen can hear them. I myself dont understand why the concept of having 1 end full of vocal fans cannot be a great bonus to the days enjoyment rather than it being a disadvantage. When buying tickets for the semi final at Villa park did they demand to have tickets away from the saints end and alongside the away fans.Can you not see what a nonsense this is? Nick my friend its a nonsense because there is no logic or honesty regarding the restriction of match day sales. Just to go through your post. 1. Please explain how the away fans are to be moved into the Itchen stand? The logistics are impossible, how do you segregate between away fans and corporate? How do you segregate between the away fans and the 15 (?) executive boxes directly behind that section? How do you increase away capacity for cup games? 2. No problem at all with having one whole end dedicated to the vocal support, still does not explain why they are restricting sales to the Itchen. We all want as many fans in the stadium as possible, sell them to where ever people want to sit and if the club are going to make changes next season the fine. At that point I and fellow season ticket holders can decide where we want to sit and not be confronted with this restriction and friends and family joining us on match days. 3. Don't be silly mate, it doesn't matter which away game you go to you sit where your sat, the point of a season ticket is you buy your seat for the season!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 2. No problem at all with having one whole end dedicated to the vocal support, still does not explain why they are restricting sales to the Itchen. We all want as many fans in the stadium as possible, sell them to where ever people want to sit and if the club are going to make changes next season the fine. Exactly. This policy is so shot through with holes it's beyond reason. A mate of mine who can't get to every game gets tickets when he can and sits with us. He could have gone Saturday but didn't bother because he didn't fancy sitting by himself in Block 9. Thats the club down £25. How many more times is that going to be repeated this season. I'm not moving to sit in the Northam/Kingsland corner. I picked my seat at the start of the season because thats where I want to sit. And I expect the same rights and previllages as any other Season ticket holder in other parts of the ground. Anything less is mis-selling by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 from my standpoint i assume the club are not allowing non s/t holders to buy tickets to try and slowly reduce the fans wishing to sit there and so next season it will be easier to relocate the away fans. The Itchen corner seem determined to stand by the away fans for the banter.That is fine but they would get just the same banter by getting tickets alongside them in the northam? Surely their voices would be better served egging on the team from an end where they are likely to be heard by the team. I doubt the Chapel or the rest of the itchen can hear them. I myself dont understand why the concept of having 1 end full of vocal fans cannot be a great bonus to the days enjoyment rather than it being a disadvantage. When buying tickets for the semi final at Villa park did they demand to have tickets away from the saints end and alongside the away fans.Can you not see what a nonsense this is? The point still flies right over your head doesn't it? It shouldn't matter why they choose to sit in the Itchen North. The point is that is where they want to sit, this is the area of the ground that they enjoy being in, it doesn't matter if it doesn't appeal to you, they paid out their hard earned cash on the basis that mates would be able to come and sit near them on a game by game basis. This has been takem away by the club with no real reason or logic and we're just being bulls***ted by the club, but you don't seem to mind. If the club want to "encourage" people to go in the Northam, then that's fine, but don't treat loyal, passionate fans like s**t in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I have read the arguments and I still liked the Itchen North as it was before Lowe closed it. It was brilliant. Loved singing across to the Northam and then surrounding the opposition fans with noise. Itchen North rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 David Luker in his email to me confirmed that the club have no plans to force any season ticket holder to move from their existing seat and they can buy tickets for friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I have read the arguments and I still liked the Itchen North as it was before Lowe closed it. It was brilliant. Loved singing across to the Northam and then surrounding the opposition fans with noise. Itchen North rocked. Agree 100% as i said on the other thread, i'm with jason on this. loosing my blk3 seat was a factor in not renewing my st's (along with lowe, relegation etc etc..) having sat in most areas of the ground i must say i really miss itchen north, it developed into a little community over the years. that is now lost. oh - some on hear seem to think banter is violence related, it is not, it's just a laugh and part football. whats wrong with having away fans behind the goal, away fans are integral to the atmosphere at games, i like the buzz they create - sticking them out of the way (a la newcastle) will remove that part of the game as well. sms is getting quite boring now, sing in the chapel or kingsland and people stare at you like you have just beaten a baby seal to death. oh - delldays - you sound like a right grade A tw*t, i'ld rather go to fratton park than go to a game/pint with somebody like you. don't bother responding, i don't care what you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Away fans are allowed to make too much noise because of the Itchen North being closed, when it was open hardly no set of away supporters could make noise because they were boxed in by two vocal sets of fans. Since the Itchen North got shut, the atmosphere has been average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Be honest. The atmosphere from the Iitchen north is pretty quiet no matter what you all say. Singing "were the itchen overe here" is cringe worthy at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Be honest. The atmosphere from the Iitchen north is pretty quiet no matter what you all say. Singing "were the itchen overe here" is cringe worthy at best That is from 'Nu Itchen North', the Itchen North in the 06/07 and 07/08 season was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 The point still flies right over your head doesn't it? It shouldn't matter why they choose to sit in the Itchen North. The point is that is where they want to sit, this is the area of the ground that they enjoy being in, it doesn't matter if it doesn't appeal to you, they paid out their hard earned cash on the basis that mates would be able to come and sit near them on a game by game basis. This has been takem away by the club with no real reason or logic and we're just being bulls***ted by the club, but you don't seem to mind. If the club want to "encourage" people to go in the Northam, then that's fine, but don't treat loyal, passionate fans like s**t in the meantime.so if you want to sit in with the away fans you have a right to do so? No you have been moved along once and the club if it wishes can do the sameagain. It wont in my opinion but hope the fans see sense. I have no info that the club wish to move the Itchen for the away fans , but it makes sense to push them around a couple of blocks and make the home presence in the Northam greater.Looking at the ground plan you can still give the away fans a corner of the Northam and a couple of blocks of the Itchen for the majority of games. That could mean the Northam will have a greater effect on the noise generated for the home team, whilst diminishing the away fans effect for their team. The Itchen will become less populated in the area near to the away fans as the ticket holders there will only be able to get tickets for freinds etc and so the casual supporters will get their tickets elsewhere.It will become less of a focus and fans will want to move to the more noisy areas. I am sorry that the Itchen corner is likely to diminish but if we get an end where the fans can make a difference it is a price worth paying for us all. Of course there may be other reasons and the club has no intention of moving the away fans, it is all guesswork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Exactly. This policy is so shot through with holes it's beyond reason. A mate of mine who can't get to every game gets tickets when he can and sits with us. He could have gone Saturday but didn't bother because he didn't fancy sitting by himself in Block 9. Thats the club down £25. How many more times is that going to be repeated this season. I'm not moving to sit in the Northam/Kingsland corner. I picked my seat at the start of the season because thats where I want to sit. And I expect the same rights and previllages as any other Season ticket holder in other parts of the ground. Anything less is mis-selling by the club. I suspect if the club are wishing to change things they would have factored in the loss of revenue. I expect the policing and stewarding of fans in that area is more costly than it is elsewhere , not Northam of course but generally. The Itchen corner did generate a lot of noise towards the away supporters but not so much to the team.I stood there against Pompey and Norwich PL and it was awesome but they were certain games, this season it has not been such a force IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 so if you want to sit in with the away fans you have a right to do so? No you have been moved along once and the club if it wishes can do the sameagain. It wont in my opinion but hope the fans see sense. I have no info that the club wish to move the Itchen for the away fans , but it makes sense to push them around a couple of blocks and make the home presence in the Northam greater.Looking at the ground plan you can still give the away fans a corner of the Northam and a couple of blocks of the Itchen for the majority of games. That could mean the Northam will have a greater effect on the noise generated for the home team, whilst diminishing the away fans effect for their team. The Itchen will become less populated in the area near to the away fans as the ticket holders there will only be able to get tickets for freinds etc and so the casual supporters will get their tickets elsewhere.It will become less of a focus and fans will want to move to the more noisy areas. I am sorry that the Itchen corner is likely to diminish but if we get an end where the fans can make a difference it is a price worth paying for us all. Of course there may be other reasons and the club has no intention of moving the away fans, it is all guesswork Nick it can't happen that way because they won't let the away fans have blocks 1-6 as they would come in at the front of the stadium through concourse A, that would mean right up to the Directors box on the north Itchen. Obviously they couldn't mix the fans through concourse A. I think they have identified match day ticket holders as their problem in Block 4 and are moving the problem to 36/39. The fact that they are willing to let season ticket holders buy extra tickets for me is pretty conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 (edited) Nick it can't happen that way because they won't let the away fans have blocks 1-6 as they would come in at the front of the stadium through concourse A, that would mean right up to the Directors box on the north Itchen. Obviously they couldn't mix the fans through concourse A. I think they have identified match day ticket holders as their problem in Block 4 and are moving the problem to 36/39. The fact that they are willing to let season ticket holders buy extra tickets for me is pretty conclusive. Also hardly a great marketing tool when trying to sell corporate boxes keep winning games and the problem solves itself the Northam/Kingsland fills naturally win a lot more and Itchen Corner re opens down to AP Edited 5 October, 2009 by 70's Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Also hardly a great marketing tool when trying to sell corporate boxes Or more season tickets in the Itchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Or more season tickets in the Itchen. You maybe right there mate. After all if they are truly trying to generate atmosphere in the 'extended northam' why not close all match day tickets for everywhere except the 'extended Northam' when that stand is full then fill the kingsland etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 You maybe right there mate. After all if they are truly trying to generate atmosphere in the 'extended northam' why not close all match day tickets for everywhere except the 'extended Northam' when that stand is full then fill the kingsland etc The view is the same all over. If the club want you to move. Well not you as you have a season ticket then there is no drama really Saints fans consantly whinge about non football matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 October, 2009 The view is the same all over. If the club want you to move. Well not you as you have a season ticket then there is no drama really Saints fans consantly whinge about non football matters Why are you so argumentative Mr. Delldays, I've explained why I'm upset about the policy, I'm a season ticket holder for the Itchen North which I've had since the Stadium opened, all I'm asking for are the same rights as any other season ticket holder in the stadium. It's great that Mr. Luker has done a U turn and is allowing us season ticket holders to purchase seats next to us but I still do not understand the restrictions anyway. Ps. I don't really call this whinging, I'm not complaining that the coffee is to cold, pie's are too hot, beer is flat or the seats are too hard, all I was/am looking for was the same right as any other fan/customer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Dell Days, you are right - the atmosphere is pretty quiet, but was it really before they shut the Itchen Corner? we had a ground to be proud of atmosphere wise when two ends pretty full were vocally getting behind the team. The atmosphere now is sterile to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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