St. Jason Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Initially yes, but i believe this is just phase 1. In the summer the away fans will be hutched around into the corner/itchen wing. I'm in favour of this happening. See post above. And why dont they give priority on the seats behind the goal? Cleatly it's preferable to put away fans out the way. I too used to prefer the Archers Road end, but prior to this being a home end it was for away fans. This was changed because it was a stand that gave a good atmosphere and it was nonsense for away fans to benefit from it. For the same reason away fans should be moved into the Itchen corner and should not have the benefit of occupying a bank of seats behind the goal. I'm in favour because it means less atmosphere from the away fans and therefore gives our team more of a "home advantage". I believe that over the course of a season the atmospheric advantage could be quite a few extra points. Look mate we all know why certain people like the Itchen North, and it's not for the view of the game. Basically it's to watch/abuse the away fans and/or to pick a fight for after the match. You'll still be able to get your fix from the Northam because away fans will be round the corner in full view. A. I have not insulted you by calling you a 'muppet' or 'scarfer' so please do not label me a hooligan looking for my 'fix'! B. Please explain how the away fans are to be moved to the Itchen North with all the executive boxes behind said section, surely this is a recipe for violence, and how go we give them their full 15% for cup games, move the directors or again move us long suffereing home fans????? C. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh can't be arsed anymore, you win. I'll stop taking friends for the rest of this season then reconsider my own support next year. Well done one and all, The Itchen is dead, long live the prawn sandwiches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Look mate we all know why certain people like the Itchen North, and it's not for the view of the game. Basically it's to watch/abuse the away fans and/or to pick a fight for after the match. You'll still be able to get your fix from the Northam because away fans will be round the corner in full view. Whatever plans are for next season there is no reason to stop people being able to buy tickets in the Itchen North now. If I had forked out for a season ticket and was now told my friends can't sit with me I would tell the club to shove their ST up their ass. Some fans enjoy sitting in the Itchen North, forcing them to have a less enjoyable matchday experience is not going to encourage them to buy tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Imagine you wanted to go to the cinema to catch a film only to be told by Odeon or the likes that the only way you can sit in one part of the cinema is if you buy tickets for every other film that year..........bloody ludicrous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 A. I have not insulted you by calling you a 'muppet' or 'scarfer' so please do not label me a hooligan looking for my 'fix'! B. Please explain how the away fans are to be moved to the Itchen North with all the executive boxes behind said section, surely this is a recipe for violence, and how go we give them their full 15% for cup games, move the directors or again move us long suffereing home fans????? In respect of point A i'm saying it how i see it. I've sat in the Itchen North a few times and the crux of the stand is how i described. Don't take offence as it's not intended. I'm simply saying it how i see it: "Basically it's to watch/abuse the away fans and/or to pick a fight for after the match." B. There have been occasions when away fans have hired out boxes and this has caused potential trouble. It makes business sense and security sense for away boxes to be provided and for these boxes to be "in the away end". We have many empty boxes so it'd be prudent to offer provision for away corporate hospitality. We may have Mr Liebherr bankrolling us at present, but we should be looking at maximise revenue streams. As for providing extra capacity for cup games you are losing the plot with your ranting. Of course some home fans will have to move to make room. Your point is completely irrelevent to your grievance. Whatever plans are for next season there is no reason to stop people being able to buy tickets in the Itchen North now. I completely agree with you. This decision is disgusting. It's a canniving and sneaky plot. Those in the Itchin are effectively being blackmailed to leave with an ultimatem "Move and a find a new seat with your mates/family or stay and sit on your own in a half empty stand before we evict you in the summer anyway." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 It would be total madness to try and move away fans into blocks 2 and 3. There would be serious crowd disorder due to the lack of seperation and at some point. Home fans in the exec boxes goading and jumping up when goals scored etc. In fact that trouble has already happened the other way around on a number of occasions. I also fail to see how the police would allow such a move which would pitch rival fans right next to each other on the main concourse. As it stands at the moment they have very good control on exiting away fans. It just sounds to me that some pen pusher in the boardroom who needs to justify his wages has come up with this pathetic idea. No doubt taking on board views from so called fans groups who dont represent anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 Sorry if already done: Looking at the map above i reckon block 46 and 45 would be no different for Itchen Corner people. There's still going to be the banter with the away fans because the angle between will be the same, but we get the atmospheric advantage by creating a huge kop like Milton Road was. Blocks 47 and 48 could be the buffer zone while we get non capacity gates, but they can be reopened as and when. Give away fans blocks 1,2,3,4,5 (including away corporate boxes). Everyones a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 October, 2009 Share Posted 4 October, 2009 St Jason was advocating illegal activities at games last season so I don't think the powers that be at SMS should pay much attention to his views. Good move Mr Cortese, hope you pursue all your plans in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 So what happens when we get back in the prem and all the exec boxes are be taken by home fans as before. You cannot tell me that they will not sell approx 10 boxes just in case away fans want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 So what happens when we get back in the prem and all the exec boxes are be taken by home fans as before. You cannot tell me that they will not sell approx 10 boxes just in case away fans want them. Suggest we cross that bridge when the time comes. Can be filed away in "nice problem to have" tray IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I misread it too, but think think this is probably phase 1 of a two phase plan. To me it's clear that away fans WILL be moved into the Northam/Itchen corner next season. That's why they're trying to evict ST holders by making their stand like a morgue. Do you not bothering reading anything before you post? Away fans aren't getting moved to the Itchen/Northam corner and there is clearly nothing to suggest that this will happen any time in the near future. This is just a clamp down on those who go in the Itchen North, nothing more, nothing less or are you just on here as a wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Looking at the map above i reckon block 46 and 45 would be no different for Itchen Corner people. There's still going to be the banter with the away fans because the angle between will be the same, but we get the atmospheric advantage by creating a huge kop like Milton Road was. Blocks 47 and 48 could be the buffer zone while we get non capacity gates, but they can be reopened as and when. Give away fans blocks 1,2,3,4,5 (including away corporate boxes). Everyones a winner. Now I definitely think you're just on a wind-up. The whole point is that the Northam and the Itchen North aren't the same, that's why for the last 7 years many saints fans have chosen to sit in the Itchen and not the Northam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 I have contacted David Luker and he is awaiting clarification. In the interim the ticket office have been instructed to sell additional tickets in ajacent empty seats to season ticket holders in Blocks 4/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 To be honest, it would be helpful if the club could give a bit more information on what exactly they are trying to achieve here. What they've done seems a bit half-arsed, you either close the section or you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 To be honest, it would be helpful if the club could give a bit more information on what exactly they are trying to achieve here. What they've done seems a bit half-arsed, you either close the section or you don't. I personally think the club have a problem with the back of block 4. They have already closed the back four rows off in block4 and 5. There is a standing problem plus people who have bought tickets in block5/6 are moving over to block 4 and occupying spare seats and from reading on here reserved seats. Season ticket holders usually occupy their own seat, so restricting Block4/5 to season tickets only solves this problem. They probably have included block 5 to stop the problem just migrating across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 A. I have not insulted you by calling you a 'muppet' or 'scarfer' so please do not label me a hooligan looking for my 'fix'! B. Please explain how the away fans are to be moved to the Itchen North with all the executive boxes behind said section, surely this is a recipe for violence, and how go we give them their full 15% for cup games, move the directors or again move us long suffereing home fans????? C. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh can't be arsed anymore, you win. I'll stop taking friends for the rest of this season then reconsider my own support next year. Well done one and all, The Itchen is dead, long live the prawn sandwiches! No reason why, beginning next season, section 4 can't be accessed for away supporters by knocking down a wall or two and shortening Itchen North. Much as I like the stand I would be prepared to forsake some of it if it means squeezing the away fans into the corner of the stadium. So what if we have to get early bird seasons to secure our Itchen seats? It amazes me that fans think where their ass is plonked is more important than what is best for results - and for the club. Make no mistake, away fans have had too big an influence on results, and this could have made a significant difference to our current position. Sideline 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 No reason why, beginning next season, section 4 can't be accessed for away supporters by knocking down a wall or two and shortening Itchen North. Much as I like the stand I would be prepared to forsake some of it if it means squeezing the away fans into the corner of the stadium. So what if we have to get early bird seasons to secure our Itchen seats? It amazes me that fans think where their ass is plonked is more important than what is best for results - and for the club. Make no mistake, away fans have had too big an influence on results, and this could have made a significant difference to our current position. Sideline 'em. As for the Directors Boxes, why not move them down a section towards Itchen South. Not every club has them smack middle in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 Has anyone else spotted the slight flaw in Kelvin Davis' comments: Strangely, I remember Richard Wright playing in front of a full house at that game... He was on the bench. That's good enough for me. Everyone who was there for that game can recall how great the atmosphere was. Despite the tenseness of the match I always felt we would win and beleived that the players could raise their game at any point, especially with our backing which was first rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 As for the Directors Boxes, why not move them down a section towards Itchen South. Not every club has them smack middle in the stadium. Yeah, we should just pick em up and move em. Wouldnt take much in terms of reconstruction or anything. Ermmmmmmm......... Have you seen the boxes at Spuds? I think how lucky we are at Saints every time I see White Hart Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 October, 2009 Share Posted 5 October, 2009 As for the Directors Boxes, why not move them down a section towards Itchen South. Not every club has them smack middle in the stadium. Currently section 6 is pretty moribund. As quiet as the Chapel. So populating the more vocal supporters into this area can only be good for atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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