Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Kelvin : PLEASE consider changing the direction of play at kick-off. I honestly believe that kicking towards the Northam in the 2nd half will be better for the team. Our defence will be more 'protected' at the quieter Chapel end at a time when usually panic is starting to set-in. Also, I believe it will inspire our players more to be facing the Northam in the 2nd half, especially if the opposing fans are making a lot of noise. We need to grab any advantage we can at home and this is a small but significant idea that could help change our fortunes IMHO.
Didcot Saint Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 That is a very sensible suggestion. Tuesday all the Rovers fans were almost trying to suck the ball in the net! All that noise near the end of a game must affect the players concentration, although being professionals it should'nt!
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 October, 2009 Author Posted 2 October, 2009 Thanks DS - I know it shouldn't make a difference, but something is not right at SMS and this could help calm the nerves a bit.
the saint in winchester Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Again, S F C, you are right. At The Dell we usually played into the Milton End in the 2nd half.
Greedyfly Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Never have got this. Has anyone got a sensible suggstion/reason as to why we don't already? I can't get my head around why we kick towards the 'quiet' end in the crucial minutes of the game.
John B Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Again, S F C, you are right. At The Dell we usually played into the Milton End in the 2nd half. Yes if we won the toss we always defended the Milton Road end I thought in the first half
Junior Mullet Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 As said in another thread, move the home end to the Chapel. A concerted effort could be made via websites and by handing out fliers at the ground before ST renewals and in time the Chapel could be a really good home end. For those that think this is not possible, You're wrong - it can be done. I stood in the Northam for years but have now moved over to the Itchen with my folks. I'm sorry to say that the Northam really doesnt make much noise anymore, at least compared to the away fans. We should have a whole home end to roar the lads on. You do not need to be right next to the away fans - opposite is in fact better because you can get better banter going and the atmosphere would be so much better. Closing the Northam/Kingsland corner and the relocation of the singers in the Itchen North has made things worse.
VectisSaint Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Maybe Kelvin is not a good tosser, and we don't get to choose.
saint_stevo Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 And.....don't run out and sell yourself thus gifting the opposition a goal
mikee Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Move and split up our vocal support, hand out fliers etc????? Wouldn't it be easier to just come out and start warming up at the Northam end and playing towards the Chapel in the first half!! This is what we always used to do and I have no idea why it changed.
trousers Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Move and split up our vocal support, hand out fliers etc????? Wouldn't it be easier to just come out and start warming up at the Northam end and playing towards the Chapel in the first half!! This is what we always used to do and I have no idea why it changed. Someone mentioned many moons ago on here that it was do do with the location of the changing rooms and that Saints 'naturally' came out of the tunnel on the left (as you come out onto the pitch). I mentioned at the time that it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man for the teams to cross over in the corridor before they get to the tunnel. Also, it's not just about kicking towards the 'home end' in the second half that is important I think the players would also benefit psychologically from running out towards the Northam for both the pre-match warm up and just before kick-off.
saintwarwick Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Kelvin : PLEASE consider changing the direction of play at kick-off. I honestly believe that kicking towards the Northam in the 2nd half will be better for the team. Our defence will be more 'protected' at the quieter Chapel end at a time when usually panic is starting to set-in. Also, I believe it will inspire our players more to be facing the Northam in the 2nd half, especially if the opposing fans are making a lot of noise. We need to grab any advantage we can at home and this is a small but significant idea that could help change our fortunes IMHO. Maybe we can fill the ground and all sing thus drowning out the noise of the opposing team, not that most will be singing anyway from the away fans.
Sour Mash Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 As said in another thread, move the home end to the Chapel. A concerted effort could be made via websites and by handing out fliers at the ground before ST renewals and in time the Chapel could be a really good home end. For those that think this is not possible, You're wrong - it can be done. I stood in the Northam for years but have now moved over to the Itchen with my folks. I'm sorry to say that the Northam really doesnt make much noise anymore, at least compared to the away fans. We should have a whole home end to roar the lads on. You do not need to be right next to the away fans - opposite is in fact better because you can get better banter going and the atmosphere would be so much better. Closing the Northam/Kingsland corner and the relocation of the singers in the Itchen North has made things worse. Can't ever see the Northam being persuaded to move to the Chapel. What always annoys me is the amount of people in the Northam who don't sing, never understoof why they come into block 42 and just stand there gormlessly, maybe they enjoy being part of the atmosphere without actually contributing to it.
Rickchannon Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Does it really make a difference as to which way we are kicking,and always thought Home fans were spread around the stadium not just in the Northam.Just because some people like to sit and watch the football quietly(alledgedly in the Chapel end),does it make them any less of a fan.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 October, 2009 Author Posted 2 October, 2009 Does it really make a difference as to which way we are kicking,and always thought Home fans were spread around the stadium not just in the Northam.Just because some people like to sit and watch the football quietly(alledgedly in the Chapel end),does it make them any less of a fan. It's not so much about our fans - its mainly about letting the away team kick towards their fans and also our defenders having a wall of noise from the away fans right in their backs in the closing 10 minutes of a game. I am convinved there is something in this.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 October, 2009 Author Posted 2 October, 2009 Maybe we can fill the ground and all sing thus drowning out the noise of the opposing team, not that most will be singing anyway from the away fans. See my other thread!
Rickchannon Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Agree with drowning out the opposing fans singing and maybe the home crowd would lift the spirit of the team by being noisier. How would swapping ends work though,it would surely just make one end noiser and the other quieter,just as it is now.Where would the family enclosure be moved to. Filling the ground would be excellent,but probally until we climb the league/leagues is not going to happen.
Pat from Poole Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Again, S F C, you are right. At The Dell we usually played into the Milton End in the 2nd half. Eh? But the Milton End at the Dell was just as quiet as the Chapel at St. Mary's. The Archers and East Stands were the only stands making any noise at the Dell.
bugenhagen Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Someone mentioned many moons ago on here that it was do do with the location of the changing rooms and that Saints 'naturally' came out of the tunnel on the left (as you come out onto the pitch). I mentioned at the time that it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man for the teams to cross over in the corridor before they get to the tunnel. Also, it's not just about kicking towards the 'home end' in the second half that is important I think the players would also benefit psychologically from running out towards the Northam for both the pre-match warm up and just before kick-off. They cross over in the corridor today. The home dressingroom is on the right side, and they line up on the left side of the corridor. Don't know why, but seems like the club wants to play towards the Northam first half...
golfdelsur Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 I presume that the players warm up at the chapel end because they dont want to get abuse from the away fans while doing it. Could be wide of the mark here but wasnt the position of the sun in the goalies eyes something to do with decision to play towards the chapel in the second half.
Icey Saint Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 i was thinking if we moved the goals to wings we'd get more scoring chances, because we are world beaters at moving the ball from wing to wing just bloody awful at moving forward! i sit in a wing so no preference to which way we kick but think that as professional footballers it should not matter. how do Aston Villa get on as they have home fans behind each goal, are they unbeaten at home ?? not sure of any other stats from other teams
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 Kelvin : PLEASE consider changing the direction of play at kick-off. I honestly believe that kicking towards the Northam in the 2nd half will be better for the team. Our defence will be more 'protected' at the quieter Chapel end at a time when usually panic is starting to set-in. Also, I believe it will inspire our players more to be facing the Northam in the 2nd half, especially if the opposing fans are making a lot of noise. We need to grab any advantage we can at home and this is a small but significant idea that could help change our fortunes IMHO. Maybe the team that wins the toss don't want the sun in their eyes hence chosing to shoot towards Chapel 2nd half! I prefer it that way (as I sit in the Chapel!)
krissyboy31 Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 I prefer it that way (as I sit in the Chapel!) Wouldn't you prefer the inevitable injury time goal going in at the Northam end to be ours, not the oppositions?
vico Posted 2 October, 2009 Posted 2 October, 2009 People will always argue that this is a non -ense and it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. I'm sure statistics would prove this correct. However, the single biggest reason why the away team should never attack toweards the northam in the second half is so that they dont get to celebrate it with their own fans. Time after time after conceeding late at the Northam the away team run straight to to the crowd to celebrate. This means valuable seconds or even minutes are lost in the last few minutes. If we concede late in the chapel the away team will either have less celebrations or run to the away end to celebrate - which is fine as thats wehere they need to be for us to kick off again. To be honest most of us are immune to looking at the away end and seeing wild celebrations with the team who have just scored a late winner.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 October, 2009 Author Posted 3 October, 2009 People will always argue that this is a non -ense and it makes no difference to the outcome of the game. I'm sure statistics would prove this correct. Dunno - I might wager that we've won more games at home kicking towards the Northam in 2nd half. But anyway, the main point I think is to try something to break the cycle of failure.
hackedoff Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 We must be the only team in existance that gives away sides the advantage of attacking towards their fans in the second half.
St Will Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 We must be the only team in existance that gives away sides the advantage of attacking towards their fans in the second half. It happens at every stadium in the country unless it's changed at the coin toss
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 October, 2009 Author Posted 3 October, 2009 We must be the only team in existance that gives away sides the advantage of attacking towards their fans in the second half. Agreed - would like to know how true this is actually.
St Will Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 Agreed - would like to know how true this is actually. It's completely untrue!
Genk Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 Agreed - would like to know how true this is actually. It's probably about half and half. Thinking of this season so far we were shooting towards our fans away at Charlton in the 2nd half but at Swindon we weren't. Wasn't at Stockport or Carlisle so can't say. Thinking of Premiership grounds, at Anfield the away team shoots towards their away fans 2nd half but that obviosuly due to Liverpool shooting towards the Kop! At Arsenal the away team shoots to their fans in the 2nd half aswell as at Old Trafford.
Danny Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 Dunno - I might wager that we've won more games at home kicking towards the Northam in 2nd half. But anyway, the main point I think is to try something to break the cycle of failure. I doubt it seeing as we've played this way since we moved to St Mary's. Also, kicking towards the Northam is kicking towards a vast space of empty seats. Blocks 41 and 42 might be full, but beyond there is nothing at all. I don't even think block 43 is open most games. Besides as previously said, it's mainly to do with the Sun, which is more of an issue throughout the winter months.
SaintRobbie Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 Kelvin : PLEASE consider changing the direction of play at kick-off. I honestly believe that kicking towards the Northam in the 2nd half will be better for the team. Our defence will be more 'protected' at the quieter Chapel end at a time when usually panic is starting to set-in. Also, I believe it will inspire our players more to be facing the Northam in the 2nd half, especially if the opposing fans are making a lot of noise. We need to grab any advantage we can at home and this is a small but significant idea that could help change our fortunes IMHO. Any idea if he did that today?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 October, 2009 Author Posted 3 October, 2009 Any idea if he did that today? No same routine - I'll keep my thoughts to myself!
deadpanmatt Posted 3 October, 2009 Posted 3 October, 2009 Or... the other end of the stadium can make some noise and idiot fans can support the team instead of saving their breath for player abuse. Makes me laugh- at 1-1 today some fool didn't sing a note but had no problem barking defensive 'strategies' until we went 2-1 up.
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