An evening with MLT.....

[Fowllyd]

Can I come for dinner as well please???

 

We could make it a party round 19C's house!!

 

I would like to come to, so long as there are no sour grapes on the cheeseboard.

 

You'll get all the bitter lemon and whisky sours you can drink!

[dubai_phil]

How odd, just had a call from my old mate Sultan Bin Trump, apparently I am ITK about some big new reality TV opportunity.

 

Apparently it's called Survivor - Dinner at 19C's House.

 

Seems the TV rights could be huge and he sees the opportunity for a global networking franchise along the lines of his first big hit "The Hydra Executive" and his upcoming tribute to Spike Milligan - Pompey, My part in their downfall.

 

Anyway word is that the TV rights sale could be enough to cover the Chateau Neuf Du Pape bill for the full 16 weeks of the programme.

 

Now all it needs are 16 volunteers prepared to spend up to 16 weeks at 19C's house

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Now all it needs are 16 volunteers prepared to spend up to 16 weeks at 19C's house

 

Big Bother ?

[Daren W]

Not quite the same context maximising the raising of funds through wider audience appeal and a football match. Mind you if you have ever attended American sporting events you may be on to something.

 

Wes, lighten up there must be 100 irrevent and satirical posts on here that are meant with a large dose of irony. I thought I was being funny by putting up Leicester as having the type of manager to take on Marlon King and you never know if something happens to Fryatt and Mandric has got £35k pw burning a hole in his pocket. Lets face it he signed Pericard on loan for us and that was criminal IMO.

 

I look forward to you challenging every 'off the cuff' comment made by everyone else. What did we do before smileys, eh? Lighten up Wes we're on the same side more and more and you'll soon be in consideration for my Saints forum 'Come Dine With Me' experience. Though you'll need to knock out Daren Wheeler somehow.

 

Come dine with you eh?

Considering your usual form of running and hiding after being well and truly trounced on every thread you "contribute" to I'd suggest you'd have the following menu...

 

Humble pie washed down with sour grapes...

[Tamesaint]

How odd, just had a call from my old mate Sultan Bin Trump, apparently I am ITK about some big new reality TV opportunity.

 

Apparently it's called Survivor - Dinner at 19C's House.

 

Seems the TV rights could be huge and he sees the opportunity for a global networking franchise along the lines of his first big hit "The Hydra Executive" and his upcoming tribute to Spike Milligan - Pompey, My part in their downfall.

 

Anyway word is that the TV rights sale could be enough to cover the Chateau Neuf Du Pape bill for the full 16 weeks of the programme.

 

Now all it needs are 16 volunteers prepared to spend up to 16 weeks at 19C's house

 

 

I reckon that watching a few episodes of Fawlty Towers before we turn up at 19C's house will prepare us well for dealing with our host.

[View From The Top]

I reckon that watching a few episodes of Fawlty Towers before we turn up at 19C's house will prepare us well for dealing with our host.

 

Just watch Rainman.

[Jonnyboy]

No you are mistaken,we have a CEO and that is not him.

 

LM has been the leading fundraising ambassador,now also MLT and is assissted by Claus Lundekvam,Jason Dodd and Shaun Udal.Plus others.

 

Ok but its still totally to be expected that LM turns up to these sort of events

[Nineteen Canteen]

I would like to come to, so long as there are no sour grapes on the cheeseboard.

 

JB you'll be more than welcome provided you park your car round the back. Better still bring your bike we can compare folding mechanisms and get all enthused about things, James May style.

 

DP - the Big Brother house sounds like a great thread (your idea so do the honours if you wish). Which, 16 housemates from this forum or whatever the number is these days would you like to spend a few weeks with?

 

4 for come dine with me would be hard but 16 still isn't easy although I couldn't live with posters who steal others witty one liners about sour grapes.

 

View From The Top would be an ideal person to take on in a friendly game of cards and every BB house needs a resident mug.

 

Daren Wheeler would need to be kept out though as I couldn't stand the alleged humiliation of being 'trounced' in a public debate with him regarding some old issues. Still it would be interesting to see how he could shout someone's arguments down on live TV whilst ignoring some reasonable points and questions.

[dubai_phil]

JB you'll be more than welcome provided you park your car round the back. Better still bring your bike we can compare folding mechanisms and get all enthused about things, James May style.

 

DP - the Big Brother house sounds like a great thread (your idea so do the honours if you wish). Which, 16 housemates from this forum or whatever the number is these days would you like to spend a few weeks with?

 

4 for come dine with me would be hard but 16 still isn't easy although I couldn't live with posters who steal others witty one liners about sour grapes.

 

View From The Top would be an ideal person to take on in a friendly game of cards and every BB house needs a resident mug.

 

Daren Wheeler would need to be kept out though as I couldn't stand the alleged humiliation of being 'trounced' in a public debate with him regarding some old issues. Still it would be interesting to see how he could shout someone's arguments down on live TV whilst ignoring some reasonable points and questions.

 

There you go, see it just proves there's no point trying to have sensible debate on here, NOBODY reads your posts properly before responding :mad:

 

WTF is a Big Brother?

 

I was talking about Survivor, the whole two tribes thing, the pro's and the anti's who eventually have to team up together, not the Brit rip off of a Dutch idea, that nobody else on the planet has ever heard of.

 

[View From The Top]

We could make hand made xmas cards. That way 19C would still feel as if he's at his day care centre.

[Daren W]

JB you'll be more than welcome provided you park your car round the back. Better still bring your bike we can compare folding mechanisms and get all enthused about things, James May style.

 

DP - the Big Brother house sounds like a great thread (your idea so do the honours if you wish). Which, 16 housemates from this forum or whatever the number is these days would you like to spend a few weeks with?

 

4 for come dine with me would be hard but 16 still isn't easy although I couldn't live with posters who steal others witty one liners about sour grapes.

 

View From The Top would be an ideal person to take on in a friendly game of cards and every BB house needs a resident mug.

 

Daren Wheeler would need to be kept out though as I couldn't stand the alleged humiliation of being 'trounced' in a public debate with him regarding some old issues. Still it would be interesting to see how he could shout someone's arguments down on live TV whilst ignoring some reasonable points and questions.

 

And where are those reasonable points Rainman?

 

I'm all or reasonable debate but all we get from you is the same tired old "Let's slag off anyone who was seen as opposing Lowe. ie Crouch/McMenemy/LeTissier/Pearson

If it had ever crossed your slightly disturbed, yet apparently vast, mind you'd see that I've debated your points ad infinitum, I've often posted on here the failings of all of the above.... the problem is Rainman, that you don't want to take in the salient points and just bang on with the same old tired drivel.

 

To somehow turn a debate about Marlon flaming King and turn it it into a LeTissier bashing session just shows how utterly pathetic you are. Anyone who can even mention King and LeTissier (in regards to "breaking the law") in the same breath is not a Saints fan in my opinion.

 

The fact that Lowe has gone and so have the above protagonists is lost on you, you're stuck in a frigging time warp, you're not even Don Quixote, at least he had windmills to joust at, you're jousting at thin air.

 

In the meantime you keep on thinking you're some sort of nemesis, keep thinking you provide any kind of debate, you keep on thinking you're some figure of importance here. You're not, you're just a sad little attention seeking freak.

 

Give my regards to Charlie Babbit...

[INFLUENCED.COM]

"I'm definitely not wearing my underwear."

[Nineteen Canteen]

And where are those reasonable points Rainman?

 

I'm all or reasonable debate but all we get from you is the same tired old "Let's slag off anyone who was seen as opposing Lowe. ie Crouch/McMenemy/LeTissier/Pearson

If it had ever crossed your slightly disturbed, yet apparently vast, mind you'd see that I've debated your points ad infinitum, I've often posted on here the failings of all of the above.... the problem is Rainman, that you don't want to take in the salient points and just bang on with the same old tired drivel.

 

To somehow turn a debate about Marlon flaming King and turn it it into a LeTissier bashing session just shows how utterly pathetic you are. Anyone who can even mention King and LeTissier (in regards to "breaking the law") in the same breath is not a Saints fan in my opinion.

 

The fact that Lowe has gone and so have the above protagonists is lost on you, you're stuck in a frigging time warp, you're not even Don Quixote, at least he had windmills to joust at, you're jousting at thin air.

 

In the meantime you keep on thinking you're some sort of nemesis, keep thinking you provide any kind of debate, you keep on thinking you're some figure of importance here. You're not, you're just a sad little attention seeking freak.

 

Give my regards to Charlie Babbit...

 

Daren, the King vs MLT debate is relevant as I was merely asking at what point does a crime become severe enough to turn on your heroes. Things have come to light about MLT recently that has made me question his integrity and role of sporting hero but I am in the minority so I thought it would be interesting to ask hypothetically what crime would have to be committed for the majority to turn against MLT or any other sporting hero.

 

BWP and Dyer were accused of much lesser charges but I think it's fair to say many wanted them kicked out of the club but if it had been MLT would they have dismissed it as a moment of stupidity? King obviously, doesn't have any strong ties with a particular fanbase and argubly neither did Dyer and BWP but should loyalty and reverence overlook misdemeanours and if so up to what level of seriousness?

 

You don't debate my points Daren you merely spit back your incredulous 'disgusted from Southampton' replies. The King case raises questions about what can and can be forgiven and we take our recent but lesser examples of slipped halos - MLT, Dyer and BWP into account don't you think it's interesting how posters on the forum have dealt with those situations? What god forbid would happen had they committed very serious crimes that required sentencing and public revulsion such as King's? I think I know what would happen to BWP and Dyer but MLT?

 

Phil, worrying use of the smiley but I've never heard of Survivor. Amazing coincidence you never hearing of Big Brother as well and 'the house' what with all that jetting around you do.

 

View From The Top - as usual deeply offensive remarks not just to me but others who may use any sort of 'care in the community' from drop in centres to hospices. Offensive remarks as always from you couched as fact, designed to hurt but only serving to deflect your own shortcomings and inability to communicate your own opinion. Have you ever had to care for a parent with early on set Alzheimers for example? Keep the insults at Daren's level they are a little more generic and acceptable instead of trying to give a more personal dig that probably insults more people on here indirectly than just myself.

 

VFTT, Crouch was just as culpable for the demise of this club as the rest IMO so please try and deal with it as I am not the only one who has that opinion. We must discuss your views on the disabled people in our society be they mentally or physically handicapped in some way, as serious illness seems fair game be it directed at me or indirectly at others who use the help available in the community and through the NHS.

 

Regards all

 

Just another sad attention seeking little freak, oddball, loon and the libellous insults designed to offend and bully from View From The Top as usual.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Just watch Rainman.

 

And where are those reasonable points Rainman?

 

 

 

Forgot to mention but can I just say these are not the classiest of insults to use on a thread discussing a charity fund raising event for people living with autisim.

[leehoudini]

Any chance of a review of the evening.......???

[Daren W]

Daren, the King vs MLT debate is relevant as I was merely asking at what point does a crime become severe enough to turn on your heroes. Things have come to light about MLT recently that has made me question his integrity and role of sporting hero but I am in the minority so I thought it would be interesting to ask hypothetically what crime would have to be committed for the majority to turn against MLT or any other sporting hero.

 

BWP and Dyer were accused of much lesser charges but I think it's fair to say many wanted them kicked out of the club but if it had been MLT would they have dismissed it as a moment of stupidity? King obviously, doesn't have any strong ties with a particular fanbase and argubly neither did Dyer and BWP but should loyalty and reverence overlook misdemeanours and if so up to what level of seriousness?

 

You don't debate my points Daren you merely spit back your incredulous 'disgusted from Southampton' replies. The King case raises questions about what can and can be forgiven and we take our recent but lesser examples of slipped halos - MLT, Dyer and BWP into account don't you think it's interesting how posters on the forum have dealt with those situations? What god forbid would happen had they committed very serious crimes that required sentencing and public revulsion such as King's? I think I know what would happen to BWP and Dyer but MLT?

 

Phil, worrying use of the smiley but I've never heard of Survivor. Amazing coincidence you never hearing of Big Brother as well and 'the house' what with all that jetting around you do.

 

View From The Top - as usual deeply offensive remarks not just to me but others who may use any sort of 'care in the community' from drop in centres to hospices. Offensive remarks as always from you couched as fact, designed to hurt but only serving to deflect your own shortcomings and inability to communicate your own opinion. Have you ever had to care for a parent with early on set Alzheimers for example? Keep the insults at Daren's level they are a little more generic and acceptable instead of trying to give a more personal dig that probably insults more people on here indirectly than just myself.

 

VFTT, Crouch was just as culpable for the demise of this club as the rest IMO so please try and deal with it as I am not the only one who has that opinion. We must discuss your views on the disabled people in our society be they mentally or physically handicapped in some way, as serious illness seems fair game be it directed at me or indirectly at others who use the help available in the community and through the NHS.

 

Regards all

 

Just another sad attention seeking little freak, oddball, loon and the libellous insults designed to offend and bully from View From The Top as usual.

 

And this comes from the poster who came up with "What happened to Daren Wheeler? I hope his absence doesn't mean his Mum has passed away?" My mother reads this messageboard, she was less than impressed with that bonne note. But of course you weren't really bothered about the effects of your posts, you were just "expressing a genuine concern." Well for your information that comment upset her. Happy?

 

You don't debate anything you idiot. You talk about crimes and at what level of crime do we associate the same sort of spite aimed at Marlon King. Perhaps you could explain what makes Matthew LeTissier any sort of criminal? The police don't view him as a criminal so what gives you the right to make that sort of assumption? Nothing other than LeTissier was a critic of Lowe and we all know how you treat anyone who dares criticise Lowe

..

You talk about Crouch's role in our demise, perhaps you could point out any point where I've defended Crouch there? What I would point out is the complete and utter lack of indignation aimed at Lowe on your behalf? You completely and utterly pummel Crouch/McMenemy here and yet Lowe escapes unscathed? And you wonder why people accuse you of blinkered bias??

 

And as for your self righteous indignation at charity? Please spare us! What was it you described me as? "A tin rattler?" It's rather ironic that as soon as someone makes digs at a charity or affliction close to your heart then you get all prissy and defensive. Perhaps those posters who, quite rightly, felt I was taking his comments about cancer and cancer charities too personally might just look at Numpteen's comments here and see that both sides of the vitriol take things personally. The difference here is I'm not a hypocrite.

 

"Forgot to mention but can I just say these are not the classiest of topics to use on a thread discussing a charity fund raising event for people living with autisim."

Perhaps you should dwell on that whilst using it to peddle your pathetic agenda...

[Wes Tender]

Any chance of a review of the evening.......???

Well said, Lee.

 

I would have liked to have attended, but couldn't. I would love to hear a report on the evening from anybody who attended, as I'm sure others would too.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

I'm not going to "tell" all on here of the things the both MLT & LM spoke about, as it may stop people going to future events, after all its for a good cause.

 

Well said, Lee.

 

I would have liked to have attended, but couldn't. I would love to hear a report on the evening from anybody who attended, as I'm sure others would too.

 

Seems to be the position, unfortunately

[Nineteen Canteen]

And this comes from the poster who came up with "What happened to Daren Wheeler? I hope his absence doesn't mean his Mum has passed away?" My mother reads this messageboard, she was less than impressed with that bonne note. But of course you weren't really bothered about the effects of your posts, you were just "expressing a genuine concern." Well for your information that comment upset her. Happy?

 

You don't debate anything you idiot. You talk about crimes and at what level of crime do we associate the same sort of spite aimed at Marlon King. Perhaps you could explain what makes Matthew LeTissier any sort of criminal? The police don't view him as a criminal so what gives you the right to make that sort of assumption? Nothing other than LeTissier was a critic of Lowe and we all know how you treat anyone who dares criticise Lowe

..

You talk about Crouch's role in our demise, perhaps you could point out any point where I've defended Crouch there? What I would point out is the complete and utter lack of indignation aimed at Lowe on your behalf? You completely and utterly pummel Crouch/McMenemy here and yet Lowe escapes unscathed? And you wonder why people accuse you of blinkered bias??

 

And as for your self righteous indignation at charity? Please spare us! What was it you described me as? "A tin rattler?" It's rather ironic that as soon as someone makes digs at a charity or affliction close to your heart then you get all prissy and defensive. Perhaps those posters who, quite rightly, felt I was taking his comments about cancer and cancer charities too personally might just look at Numpteen's comments here and see that both sides of the vitriol take things personally. The difference here is I'm not a hypocrite.

 

"Forgot to mention but can I just say these are not the classiest of topics to use on a thread discussing a charity fund raising event for people living with autisim."

Perhaps you should dwell on that whilst using it to peddle your pathetic agenda...

 

Daren as unusual you take things out of context and I remain supportive of the club's methods of supporting charitable causes and what really rattled you was the fact you were prevented by their acceptable policy of doing your bit although. You didn't like me supporting them over your good intentions but you could have gone somewhere else as a registered collecter and you may well have done. My offer of a donation for your next collection / event still stands and I remain a keen supporter of Breast Cancer charities having attended events all over the UK over the past 3 years to do my bit and like you in recognition of the fact you really apprecaite the work of the cancer charities when you are most affected by it.

 

My questions about your Mum were well intentioned and if you think otherwise then I'm afraid you don't me very well, which you don't of course. The thread was discussing missing posters and as you had not been around for a while I was genuinely concerned and so asked the question. In hindsight perhaps I could have asked the question simply as 'Where is Daren Wheeler, he hasn't posted for a while' but we can't get it right all the time so I apologise if i caused any offence, it was certainly not intended.

 

As regards my less critical views on Lowe it's simple really. People have vilified him whilst IMO ignoring some less then glorious actions by the likes of Crouch, MLT and McMenemy that would largely go ignored or unrecognised by the majority and I think it's important to share a different opinion. Adding to the hate Lowe comments would not serve any purpose in trying to understand the recent history of this club but it does not mean I don't agree with a lot of gets said.

 

Sometimes Daren you need to read what isn't written.

[Verbal]

Sometimes Daren you need to read what isn't written.

 

OK Obi Wan.

[beatlesaint]

Sometimes Daren you need to read what isn't written.

 

Thats rich considering your Post count is standing at 2,584......its about time you didnt bother to write so much then we could all come on here and enjoy what you haven't written !

[hypochondriac]

Daren as unusual you take things out of context and I remain supportive of the club's methods of supporting charitable causes and what really rattled you was the fact you were prevented by their acceptable policy of doing your bit although. You didn't like me supporting them over your good intentions but you could have gone somewhere else as a registered collecter and you may well have done. My offer of a donation for your next collection / event still stands and I remain a keen supporter of Breast Cancer charities having attended events all over the UK over the past 3 years to do my bit and like you in recognition of the fact you really apprecaite the work of the cancer charities when you are most affected by it.

 

My questions about your Mum were well intentioned and if you think otherwise then I'm afraid you don't me very well, which you don't of course. The thread was discussing missing posters and as you had not been around for a while I was genuinely concerned and so asked the question. In hindsight perhaps I could have asked the question simply as 'Where is Daren Wheeler, he hasn't posted for a while' but we can't get it right all the time so I apologise if i caused any offence, it was certainly not intended.

 

As regards my less critical views on Lowe it's simple really. People have vilified him whilst IMO ignoring some less then glorious actions by the likes of Crouch, MLT and McMenemy that would largely go ignored or unrecognised by the majority and I think it's important to share a different opinion. Adding to the hate Lowe comments would not serve any purpose in trying to understand the recent history of this club but it does not mean I don't agree with a lot of gets said.

 

Sometimes Daren you need to read what isn't written.

 

You say in hindsight but when I pointed it out to you both on the thread and via pm you were having none of it. You knew exactly what you were doing

[saint lard]

This has deteriorated into something i find really quite disgusting.I don't mean to be trying to take the moral highground i can assure you.

I started this thread thinking there is no way that this could do anything than.

A) Help a good cause.

B)Highlight the efforts made by past and present SFC staff/management to assist the aforementioned cause.

C) and put this 'out there' on the forum for people to have the oppotunity to attend.

 

Yet instead it has turned into points scoring,sniping and in general crap behaviour on a well intended thread.

 

And do you know what, i was waiting for the 'Rainman' insults...and i didn't take long did it really.

Bye the way 'Rainman' was one of the worst things done to portray someone with Autism.

Well done people,you know who you are,you must be so proud.

Just lock it.

[Wes Tender]

I've spent the past couple of hours reading what isn't written and I must say that I'm a wiser and better person as a result. The thing is though, if we're not to write anything and people will read what we haven't written, can we expect them to cough up a fiver for the privilege?

[Wes Tender]

This has deteriorated into something i find really quite disgusting.I don't mean to be trying to take the moral highground i can assure you.

I started this thread thinking there is no way that this could do anything than.

A) Help a good cause.

B)Highlight the efforts made by past and present SFC staff/management to assist the aforementioned cause.

C) and put this 'out there' on the forum for people to have the oppotunity to attend.

 

Yet instead it has turned into points scoring,sniping and in general crap behaviour on a well intended thread.

 

And do you know what, i was waiting for the 'Rainman' insults...and i didn't take long did it really.

Bye the way 'Rainman' was one of the worst things done to portray someone with Autism.

Well done people,you know who you are,you must be so proud.

Just lock it.

 

Excuse my levity, Saint Lard. You're absolutely right about how the thread has been hijacked.

[hypochondriac]

I would argue saint lard that it all stemmed from one particular poster though...

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Bye the way 'Rainman' was one of the worst things done to portray someone with Autism.

 

Did it really ? I would of thought the film brought about mass awareness of the condition, I accept for dramatic purposes it had to have something more about it but to be one of the worst things genuinely suprises me, can you explain why ?

[saint lard]

I would argue saint lard that it all stemmed from one particular poster though...

I concur,even i raised to the bait.

[saint lard]

Did it really ? I would of thought the film brought about mass awareness of the condition, I accept for dramatic purposes it had to have something more about it but to be one of the worst things genuinely suprises me, can you explain why ?

I will endevour to do so,i would not however claim to be an expert.

 

Rainman,coupled with various documentarys recently,one on BBC3,and i will even go as far as some GMTV,ITV Meridien News often run storys focusing on People within the Autistic Spectrum including Aspergers.

 

More often than not the people that are singled out are higher functioning or display various 'gifts' such as the boy who drew the landscape of London completely correct in every detail just from rote memory,clever indeed,but there are one heck of alot more that cannot function at such a level and have such behavioural traits that would astound you.

Yet these people are rarely focused upon yet these are the ones that need constant support.

 

If you notice on this thread, mention Autism you get to rainman.

Invariably alot of people think dustin Hoffmans' portrayal and think they know what Autism is about,and use that as the example.

They could'nt be further from the truth.

All IMO.

[Johnny Bognor]

I will endevour to do so,i would not however claim to be an expert.

 

Rainman,coupled with various documentarys recently,one on BBC3,and i will even go as far as some GMTV,ITV Meridien News often run storys focusing on People within the Autistic Spectrum including Aspergers.

 

More often than not the people that are singled out are higher functioning or display various 'gifts' such as the boy who drew the landscape of London completely correct in every detail just from rote memory,clever indeed,but there are one heck of alot more that cannot function at such a level and have such behavioural traits that would astound you.

Yet these people are rarely focused upon yet these are the ones that need constant support.

 

If you notice on this thread, mention Autism you get to rainman.

Invariably alot of people think dustin Hoffmans' portrayal and think they know what Autism is about,and use that as the example.

They could'nt be further from the truth.

All IMO.

 

I can see your point, however I have to disagree. I have an older autistic brother who is now in his 40's. Autism was not always in the public domain, as it is now, and when growing up in the late 80's, Rainman proved useful in explaining my brothers condition.

 

People would ask what was 'wrong' (not my choice of word) with my brother and Rainman enabled me to explain his condition to some extent.

 

If anything, the film put autism on the map and made things seem more 'normal' and 'acceptable' to the wider society and contibuted to the overall awareness of the condition.

 

As for VFTT throwing Rainman in as an insult, I find that ****ing disgusting and offensive. It is far worse than 19C's political point scoring and shows a severe lack of respect and sensitivity.

 

VFTT you should apologise!

 

If you belittle someone for the colour of their skin, you are racist scum. Belittle those who are some of the most vunerable in society and can't fend for themselves, this is OK? Serious hypocracy on this forum sometimes.

Edited 5 November, 2009 by Johnny Bognor

[View From The Top]

 

As for VFTT throwing Rainman in as an insult, I find that ****ing disgusting and offensive. It is far worse than 19C's political point scoring and shows a severe lack of respect and sensitivity.

 

VFTT you should apologise!

 

 

I did actually, via PM, not to 19C, but to St Lard.

 

I still maintain that 19C has many autistic tendencies, but using the Rainman tag on this thread was out of order.

[Johnny Bognor]

I did actually, via PM, not to 19C, but to St Lard..

 

Well that's a good start.

 

I still maintain that 19C has many autistic tendencies, but using the Rainman tag on this thread was out of order.

 

There you go again. 19C may be many things but to use the condition again as an insult is offensive.

 

Here let me help:

http://fmfeat.tripod.com/autismissues.htm

http://www.neurologychannel.com/autism/symptoms.shtml

 

I fail to see the link between 19C(an internet persona)'s forum behaviour and the tendencies of autism.

 

I thought you were just a teacher - and a prejudiced one at that - but now you're a Doctor? That's the problem with teachers, they think they know it all. Glad you're not teaching my kids.

Edited 5 November, 2009 by Johnny Bognor

[View From The Top]

glad you're not teaching my kids.

 

 

I'm more shocked that you've actually found someone to mate with.

 

I'm also glad that I don't teach kids.

[Johnny Bognor]

I'm more shocked that you've actually found someone to mate with.

 

 

I will teach my kids to respect and look out for those that cannot fend for themselves. Something your parents clearly failed to do.

Edited 5 November, 2009 by Johnny Bognor

[Redondo Saint]

Holy crap!

 

On Saturday I posted a note to ask how the evening went. I was hoping to get an idea of the numbers of people, money raised and any comments from the guest speakers that would be of interest to us fans.

 

It's now Thursday and this thread is embroiled in argument!!

 

If I was back in Blighty I would have happily spent money to attend this evening. If my wife did not want to come with me I would ask a mate - no problem.

 

The point of this type of evening is to raise funds for the charity. Choosing local 'celebs' related to SFC to host/speak is always going to be popular and therefore successful for the charity.

 

An "Evening with Sally Taylor" may be attractive to some, but I would guess not to as many as MLT or with a SFC theme. Therefore, the charity will pick a theme most likely to generate the most funds. It's not rocket science.

 

Any chance of some info' from the evening?

[saintbletch]

I did actually, via PM, not to 19C, but to St Lard.

 

I still maintain that 19C has many autistic tendencies, but using the Rainman tag on this thread was out of order.

 

You're not a French MP are you?

[Daren W]

Daren as unusual you take things out of context and I remain supportive of the club's methods of supporting charitable causes and what really rattled you was the fact you were prevented by their acceptable policy of doing your bit although. You didn't like me supporting them over your good intentions but you could have gone somewhere else as a registered collecter and you may well have done. My offer of a donation for your next collection / event still stands and I remain a keen supporter of Breast Cancer charities having attended events all over the UK over the past 3 years to do my bit and like you in recognition of the fact you really apprecaite the work of the cancer charities when you are most affected by it.

 

My questions about your Mum were well intentioned and if you think otherwise then I'm afraid you don't me very well, which you don't of course. The thread was discussing missing posters and as you had not been around for a while I was genuinely concerned and so asked the question. In hindsight perhaps I could have asked the question simply as 'Where is Daren Wheeler, he hasn't posted for a while' but we can't get it right all the time so I apologise if i caused any offence, it was certainly not intended.

 

As regards my less critical views on Lowe it's simple really. People have vilified him whilst IMO ignoring some less then glorious actions by the likes of Crouch, MLT and McMenemy that would largely go ignored or unrecognised by the majority and I think it's important to share a different opinion. Adding to the hate Lowe comments would not serve any purpose in trying to understand the recent history of this club but it does not mean I don't agree with a lot of gets said.

 

Sometimes Daren you need to read what isn't written.

 

Well Einstein, it's what you do write that annoys me and many, many other posters. Don't try and avoid the issue. You deliberately seek to annoy people with your never ending agenda against the anti Lowe protagonists. To claim some balance to the anti Lowe posts is just ridiculous. All parties concerned have gone, it's just you gnawing at the same titred old bone... Get over it.

 

What part of "Leave my personal issues out of it" did you not understand? Why mention my mother at all? Why not simply say "We haven't heard from Daren in a while, I hope is mother is ok?" or "I hope all is ok" Did it not cross your tiny mind that your sentence was was at best, ill thought out, at worst deliberately provocative and quite evil.

 

 

As for the autism refences, Saint Lard, my deepest apologies, I got so caught in the usual nonsense that i never once thought about what I posted and the implications. I'm so sorry.

[Weston Saint]

Well Einstein, it's what you do write that annoys me and many, many other posters. Don't try and avoid the issue. You deliberately seek to annoy people with your never ending agenda against the anti Lowe protagonists. To claim some balance to the anti Lowe posts is just ridiculous. All parties concerned have gone, it's just you gnawing at the same titred old bone... Get over it.

 

What part of "Leave my personal issues out of it" did you not understand? Why mention my mother at all? Why not simply say "We haven't heard from Daren in a while, I hope is mother is ok?" or "I hope all is ok" Did it not cross your tiny mind that your sentence was was at best, ill thought out, at worst deliberately provocative and quite evil.

 

 

As for the autism refences, Saint Lard, my deepest apologies, I got so caught in the usual nonsense that i never once thought about what I posted and the implications. I'm so sorry.

Blimey, you took a long time to write that.

[SaintRobbie]

Well Einstein, it's what you do write that annoys me and many, many other posters. Don't try and avoid the issue. You deliberately seek to annoy people with your never ending agenda against the anti Lowe protagonists. To claim some balance to the anti Lowe posts is just ridiculous. All parties concerned have gone, it's just you gnawing at the same titred old bone... Get over it.

 

Agreed. Would be nice to see 19 C can it and become a supporter of Southampton FC rather than Lowe's plc FC, leave or go away forever without coming back under another alias.

[hypochondriac]

Blimey, you took a long time to write that.

 

Weston, do you believe that 19C's reference to Darren's mum was a cheap shot? And if you don't can you see how it could so easily have been interpreted that way given past posting history?

[Weston Saint]

Weston, do you believe that 19C's reference to Darren's mum was a cheap shot? And if you don't can you see how it could so easily have been interpreted that way given past posting history?

You have my PM in reply to yours. Let us leave it at that shall we.

[Nineteen Canteen]

You say in hindsight but when I pointed it out to you both on the thread and via pm you were having none of it. You knew exactly what you were doing

 

Or I simply didn't agree with your advice Hypo? Are you always right about everything?

[hypochondriac]

Or I simply didn't agree with your advice Hypo? Are you always right about everything?

 

Of course not but judging by your apology, clearly I was right in this case. Maybe you should listen to my advice more often?

[Nineteen Canteen]

Of course not but judging by your apology, clearly I was right in this case. Maybe you should listen to my advice more often?

 

Hypo I will always listen to your advice and anybody else who I respect based on their posts. On this occassion I chose not to follow it which in hindsight was maybe wrong in this instance but if I just followed your advice all the time I would have to change my username to Hypochondriac 2 and some of my opinions would never see the light of day!

 

FWIW I think Daren is a touch hypocritical about my suggested lack of sensitivity when he has been playing up on my problems to such an extent that it now far exceeds any wrong doing he feels I have meted out on him.

[Gemmel]

FWIW I think Daren is a touch hypocritical about my suggested lack of sensitivity when he has been playing up on my problems to such an extent that it now far exceeds any wrong doing he feels I have meted out on him.

 

 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Daren W]

Hypo I will always listen to your advice and anybody else who I respect based on their posts. On this occassion I chose not to follow it which in hindsight was maybe wrong in this instance but if I just followed your advice all the time I would have to change my username to Hypochondriac 2 and some of my opinions would never see the light of day!

 

FWIW I think Daren is a touch hypocritical about my suggested lack of sensitivity when he has been playing up on my problems to such an extent that it now far exceeds any wrong doing he feels I have meted out on him.

 

Does it now? Allow me to draw a line under this particular argument by telling you what my mother's reaction was. To me it far exceeds any faux indignation you post on here.

 

When she read your "I hope his mother hasn't passed away" She asked, "What a horrible man, why would anyone say something like that? What does my condition have to do with him? It was bad enough what was being said before. He must be a very sick man."

 

Her words, not mine. She views this board quite a bit. My mother is seriously ill and I take very seriously and very personally anyone who uses that to score points. Your constant ignoring of my real issues in regards to charities being the point at hand. How many times times have I stated my gripe was the fact that the club couldn't be bothered to reply that annoyed me; how many times have you droned on about "The club can't help everyone?" Completely ignoring that help and a polite refusal are two very different things.

 

You show your very obvious lack of knowledge of the history of this club by completely forgetting Steve Mills and Austin Hayes. This club has a very real link to leukemia/cancer charities and for the club to just ignore a charity request, from anyone, for those particular charities without a even a polite, photo copied reply, just highlights how out of touch with the people the old regime was. I wonder if I emailled/phoned/sent a letter to Nicola Cortese, what my reply would be? I'd hazard a guess and say I might receive some sort of reply, even it it was a stock, photo copied reply.

 

It's not asking much is it? And when you finally receive a letter from the club and it's a season ticket renewal form, it's pretty annoying. It say "We don't really care about charity but is there any chance you can pay for all your games at once?" It's even more galling when you consider how much the old regime would play the loyalty card to get us to fill the ground/renew our tickets. Ask them to give something back, even if it is a photocopied bit of paper, and it's a different matter...

 

My gripe with you is the way you make the above personal, how my gripe with the club is personal and that I somehow wouldn't be involved with cancer research if it wasn't for my mum. I've raised money for all manner of charities over the years. I won't even mention the crass tin rattling comments you made on Essru's board.

 

For the record I agree with Hypo on this, no normal person would comment on a posters absence by saying "Oh I hope his mother's not dead." You knew exactly what you you doing/saying. I'm heartily sick of you winding people up here and then running off claiming we've all misinterpreted you. I'm not sure if it's that or the way you seem to think we're all stupid that annoys me the most.

 

I won't waste my time complaining to the mods about you. Three times I have complained to the mods about it and three times they've ignored me without so much as a reply. It seems to be a theme, ignore it, hope it goes away.

 

To draw a final line under all of this, do not ever, ever, comment about about me or my family. Put me on ignore, as I will you, and just **** off.

[St Will]

19C, you are sick. I've read this thread in full and I find what you have said disgusting. I have a go at certain members because of their negativity, really because I want people to put things into perspective a bit more. I may not always go the right way about it, but my reasons are innocent enough. You, on the other hand, post some truly outrageous things, some uncomprehendable, some wacky, but also some sick posts, and some bordering on evil.

 

Daren W, as much as what 19C has said will hurt, please don't take it personally. He obviously has very serious issues, and I would go as far to say as the things he says he's overcome are, well, still there. He obviously cannot control himself. As someone who has a family member with mental health issues, and as someone who ha a family member who works in he mental health sector, I can only advise you that the best thing to do is keep him on your ignore list, as I think it's safer not only for you, but for him.

[Daren W]

19C, you are sick. I've read this thread in full and I find what you have said disgusting. I have a go at certain members because of their negativity, really because I want people to put things into perspective a bit more. I may not always go the right way about it, but my reasons are innocent enough. You, on the other hand, post some truly outrageous things, some uncomprehendable, some wacky, but also some sick posts, and some bordering on evil.

 

Daren W, as much as what 19C has said will hurt, please don't take it personally. He obviously has very serious issues, and I would go as far to say as the things he says he's overcome are, well, still there. He obviously cannot control himself. As someone who has a family member with mental health issues, and as someone who ha a family member who works in he mental health sector, I can only advise you that the best thing to do is keep him on your ignore list, as I think it's safer not only for you, but for him.

 

Thanks for that Will but the truth is as this thread has descended into farce I've probably done to Saint Lard what 19c has done to me and proabably upset him whilst flinging around insults around.

 

Saint Lard for what it's worth I was so wrapped in my own petty argument that I never thought about the insults I was slinging around or the consequences. For that my sincerest apologies mate.

[saint lard]

Thanks for that Will but the truth is as this thread has descended into farce I've probably done to Saint Lard what 19c has done to me and proabably upset him whilst flinging around insults around.

 

Saint Lard for what it's worth I was so wrapped in my own petty argument that I never thought about the insults I was slinging around or the consequences. For that my sincerest apologies mate.

 

No probs,you, like view from the Top, acknowledge the fact it has got a bit 'silly' to say the least.And i appreciate your recognition for this.

 

For what it is worth i am currently awaiting an email from head office to give a brief of how the evening went,if and when i do i will post it.Ufortunately i suspect it will soon follow the same route as this one,so you will have to hold fire a little longer 19c to commence another 'campaign'.

But not on this thread,this thread belongs in the bin.

Once again mods,lock it.been given far too much 'air time' IMO.

[The Majestic Channon]

Weston, do you believe that 19C's reference to Darren's mum was a cheap shot? And if you don't can you see how it could so easily have been interpreted that way given past posting history?

Blantantly,he's clearly sick.