Pardew's OS Reactions to results

[St. Jason]

What was ever difficult about scoring goals? Even Saints used to knock 'em in by the shovel load back when. Eight games, one win, no goals from open creative play?Pardew is the problem no question. Blame the tools (players) by all means but the Poor Workman (manager) in this case will soon be the Poor Out-of-Work man if this nonsense isn't sorted out soon.

 

No easy games? Will we still be claiming that in the Wessex League.

 

Cortese has more patience than me that's for sure but failure to win both home games this week surely must signal "Time Up" for this incompetent management crew.

 

So that the yard stick from now on is it, 10 games then out????

 

******* hell mate, we are at our lowest ever eb, the club has just come out of Admin, we lost an entire pre-season, we've got a new owner, new manager, new players, time my friend is what is needed!

 

I feel to an extent Pard's is right to blame his tools, come on, we had 16 corners at an away game Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[.comsaint]

I think it's worth mentioning at this point that the season did only start last month lads - and therefore there's a long, long way to go. Just about every other side in this division had a 'settled' pre-season & a manager who'd been there for quite some time...unlike us of course & our well-documented off-the-pitch problems. It's still very early days for everything to click/fall into place - so I (for one) will take a good long look at Pardew/the team/how we've done come the end of January - by which time this squad & how it performs will be completely Alan Pardew's doing.

 

And I still think that - considering everything we've been through - finishing mid-table or just above would be a very acceptable outcome this season.

[alpine_saint]

If they call for Pardew to be sacked in the next few weeks then they are retarded. That is all.

 

In your opinion.

 

Wasnt it you banging on about people stating their opinions as facts this weekend ?

[PokingFun]

You are not the first person to comment on the haunting familiarity of APs comments compared to Burley's.

 

However, Burley is still coming out with the same sh*te for the Sweaties, so I reckon it really is the manager mentality rather than a common ghost-writer.

 

I think the familiarity of comments made by AP when compared to other Saints managers actually goes further than that.

 

If you listen to every post match interview given by a manager whose team have been defeated or have drawn then unless the manager is brutally honest, it is very rare for one to come out and say that his team is poor, should do better etc. They usually give a pretty bland response for the public.

 

I'm pretty sure that won't be the message once the changing room doors are shut.

 

Most managers if they didn't have to do post match interviews would be delighted so we should expect a bland and similar message each time we lose or draw.

[John B]

What was ever difficult about scoring goals? Even Saints used to knock 'em in by the shovel load back when. Eight games, one win, no goals from open creative play?Pardew is the problem no question. Blame the tools (players) by all means but the Poor Workman (manager) in this case will soon be the Poor Out-of-Work man if this nonsense isn't sorted out soon.

 

No easy games? Will we still be claiming that in the Wessex League.

 

Cortese has more patience than me that's for sure but failure to win both home games this week surely must signal "Time Up" for this incompetent management crew.

 

Although Pardew has proved to ineffective with regards to producing reasonable results it would be difficult to sack him.

 

 

Perhaps another approach that could have been adopted by Nicola and Markus was to have kept on Wotte and appointed a director of football who would have worked with him.

 

 

Then if results were not acceptable Wotte could have been moved on and a manager appointed by the DOF so that there would be some continuity in the way football was to be played by SFC.

 

 

But currently Pardew has a free reign and even with poor results and performances there would be little point in removing him and put the team through more turmoil.

 

 

Running a football club is not easy

[alpine_saint]

I think the familiarity of comments made by AP when compared to other Saints managers actually goes further than that.

 

If you listen to every post match interview given by a manager whose team have been defeated or have drawn then unless the manager is brutally honest, it is very rare for one to come out and say that his team is poor, should do better etc. They usually give a pretty bland response for the public.

 

I'm pretty sure that won't be the message once the changing room doors are shut.

 

Most managers if they didn't have to do post match interviews would be delighted so we should expect a bland and similar message each time we lose or draw.

 

Yeah, but Burley seemed to take the banality of the exercise to new heights.

 

But maybe that was more to do with the fact that the interviewer was forbidden from asking anything in the slightest way challenging.

[John B]

Yeah, but Burley seemed to take the banality of the exercise to new heights.

 

But maybe that was more to do with the fact that the interviewer was forbidden from asking anything in the slightest way challenging.

 

Burley was here for longer so AP may become more banal as time goes on if results do not improve.

[Give it to Ron]

Although Pardew has proved to ineffective with regards to producing reasonable results it would be difficult to sack him.

 

 

Perhaps another approach that could have been adopted by Nicola and Markus was to have kept on Wotte and appointed a director of football who would have worked with him.

 

 

Then if results were not acceptable Wotte could have been moved on and a manager appointed by the DOF so that there would be some continuity in the way football was to be played by SFC.

 

 

But currently Pardew has a free reign and even with poor results and performances there would be little point in removing him and put the team through more turmoil.

 

 

Running a football club is not easy

 

So you think Wotte would of done a better job despite getting us relegated?

You think Wotte would of accepted a DOF despite him filling that role and doing bugger all to help JP?

You criticise AP yet think Wotte had good results?

I sometimes wonder if I live on the same planet....you go on about continuity yet talk about Pardew being ineffective who has had 10 games here and lost 2 yet had poor results!

[rick1976.4.38]

lets get a reality check,ap has had 8 games,if im right,havent we a five year plan.some on here dont live in the real world.we are starting from the bottom,we are in this division for a reaon and its giong to take awhile to get it back on track.stability this season and a good crack at getting out of this division next season.i for one am 100% behind ap,coyr

[John B]

So you think Wotte would of done a better job despite getting us relegated?

You think Wotte would of accepted a DOF despite him filling that role and doing bugger all to help JP?

You criticise AP yet think Wotte had good results?

I sometimes wonder if I live on the same planet....you go on about continuity yet talk about Pardew being ineffective who has had 10 games here and lost 2 yet had poor results!

 

I dont think that you have the ability to think very clearly when other ideas are being put forward.

 

I was just suggesting that we are stuck with Pardew even if things go badly

 

 

Football is about playing well and winning games at the moment you can hardly surely say winning one league game is particularly successful.

[egreog]

Whatever happens, this forum will have its fair share of negative whingers...... it has been a very short period of time since Saints were a few days away from total meltdown.......fans talking about where else they will watch football...Eastleigh, Totton etc...........change takes time in any business and football is no different.......IMHO the signs are all positive, the overpaid "passengers" have moved on and there seems the basis of a good balanced side...........it may be yet another draw against Bristol because the project is in its infancy, and if its one point then I would not be negative.........but will wait for the usual bilge from those that expect 3 points from every game...get real!

[Give it to Ron]

I dont think that you have the ability to think very clearly when other ideas are being put forward.

 

I was just suggesting that we are stuck with Pardew even if things go badly

 

 

Football is about playing well and winning games at the moment you can hardly surely say winning one league game is particularly successful.

 

No I see things very clearly - you are totally off your rocker!

Wotte was a complete failure who was here a whole pre-season and then had the season to get things right. He failed abysmally bringing in 7 pathetic loans into the bargain yet you think he should of been kept on!

Thats not ability in thinking clearly that seeing that idea for what it is - mental!

Nowhere have I said we are playing well and am very disappointed with 1 win yet I can clearly see signs of us getting things right.

I believe once we get that -10 monkey off our back things will get better.

Your refusal to see that things have improved since AP took over astounds me but given your post about Wotte I don't know why.

[alpine_saint]

Whatever happens, this forum will have its fair share of negative whingers...... it has been a very short period of time since Saints were a few days away from total meltdown.......fans talking about where else they will watch football...Eastleigh, Totton etc...........change takes time in any business and football is no different.......IMHO the signs are all positive, the overpaid "passengers" have moved on and there seems the basis of a good balanced side...........it may be yet another draw against Bristol because the project is in its infancy, and if its one point then I would not be negative.........but will wait for the usual bilge from those that expect 3 points from every game...get real!

 

You totally undermine any sense you might be making with arguments like that, do you know ?

 

NOT ONE person on here has demanded 3 points per game.

 

Why should your posts be taken any more seriously than the "negative whingers" therefore ?

[jam]

No I see things very clearly - you are totally off your rocker!

Wotte was a complete failure who was here a whole pre-season and then had the season to get things right. He failed abysmally bringing in 7 pathetic loans into the bargain yet you think he should of been kept on!

Thats not ability in thinking clearly that seeing that idea for what it is - mental!

Nowhere have I said we are playing well and am very disappointed with 1 win yet I can clearly see signs of us getting things right.

I believe once we get that -10 monkey off our back things will get better.

Your refusal to see that things have improved since AP took over astounds me but given your post about Wotte I don't know why.

 

John B never said that Wotte was better than Pardew.

 

He merely suggested that by binning him and bringing in their own man, NC and herr Marcus are pretty much committed to that for he foreseeable, whether he turns things around or not. On the other hand an incumbant (in our case Wotte), would have been much more sackable.

[John B]

John B never said that Wotte was better than Pardew.

 

He merely suggested that by binning him and bringing in their own man, NC and herr Marcus are pretty much committed to that for he foreseeable, whether he turns things around or not. On the other hand an incumbant (in our case Wotte), would have been much more sackable.

 

Yes that was the point I was trying to make

 

Often posters on here complain that managers never have a Plan B if Plan A fails what I am saying is that Nicola and Markhus do not seem to have a Plan B.

 

Pardew may work out I dont know and neither does anyone else I would have thought a couple of wins this week will make things look a bit more rosy

[John B]

You totally undermine any sense you might be making with arguments like that, do you know ?

 

NOT ONE person on here has demanded 3 points per game.

 

Why should your posts be taken any more seriously than the "negative whingers" therefore ?

 

 

 

I agree

 

As a regular poster I just want SFC to play some good football score goals and get a few wins but for the last couple of years that has not always been the case and it is getting very frustrating

[St. Jason]

Yes that was the point I was trying to make

 

Often posters on here complain that managers never have a Plan B if Plan A fails what I am saying is that Nicola and Markhus do not seem to have a Plan B.

 

Pardew may work out I dont know and neither does anyone else I would have thought a couple of wins this week will make things look a bit more rosy

 

I don't mean to be augmentative, but if Marcus and Nicola already had a plan B I would personally be questioning their ability to run the club. They are 3 months into a 5 year plan to put this in perspective that's 8 games out of 230. Everyone needs to take a reality check, give the club a chance. Pardew is a seasoned accomplished manager, things will turn, nobody were expecting anything other than a relegation scrap this year!!!!!!

 

Come on people, on wards and up wards ay??

 

COYR

[Give it to Ron]

John B never said that Wotte was better than Pardew.

 

He merely suggested that by binning him and bringing in their own man, NC and herr Marcus are pretty much committed to that for he foreseeable, whether he turns things around or not. On the other hand an incumbant (in our case Wotte), would have been much more sackable.

 

Nowhere did I post that he did....what he actually said was keeping on Wotte which I find absurd with his record yet complains that AP is not getting results after how many games?

Why and where does it say that AP cannot be sacked - you do not get where they are in business by not taking action.

I find it absurd that people suggest keeping on a proven failure yet haven't given the new guy more than ten games before deciding he is and in the same breath talk about continuity - can you not see that?

How can you talk about Wotte and continuity then state that we cannot sack AP?

[John B]

Nowhere did I post that he did....what he actually said was keeping on Wotte which I find absurd with his record yet complains that AP is not getting results after how many games?

Why and where does it say that AP cannot be sacked - you do not get where they are in business by not taking action.

I find it absurd that people suggest keeping on a proven failure yet haven't given the new guy more than ten games before deciding he is and in the same breath talk about continuity - can you not see that?

How can you talk about Wotte and continuity then state that we cannot sack AP?

 

I think you may find that Wotte's record may have been better than Pardew's record at Charlton where he was a complete failure apparently.

 

But that is not the point as I was just suggesting that we are left with Pardew no matter how good or bad he is and bringing in a DOF is going to be difficult.

 

I would also suggest that after 10 games people were calling for the heads of Wigley Gray and JP.

[Give it to Ron]

But that is not the point as I was just suggesting that we are left with Pardew no matter how good or bad he is and bringing in a DOF is going to be difficult.

 

Why are you ignoring what Cortese and AP have publicly stated they are in favour of?

Both have said in the right circumstances they are in favour.....

 

We also have 2 members of Pardews team that are ex-managers of teams far higher than what JP/Wigley/Gray managed at before taking over so we can get the continuity you want and Pardew gone.

[St. Jason]

I think you may find that Wotte's record may have been better than Pardew's record at Charlton where he was a complete failure apparently.

 

But that is not the point as I was just suggesting that we are left with Pardew no matter how good or bad he is and bringing in a DOF is going to be difficult.

 

I would also suggest that after 10 games people were calling for the heads of Wigley Gray and JP.

 

Thats simply because Wigley, Gray and Jan should of been nowhere near the managers job in the first place. Gray & Wigley were way out of their depth, Grays just been sacked from Northampton and Wigley has never managed since. As for Jan, he had no reputation, he took over from a popular manager because said manager was appointed by Crouch which didn't sit right with Lowe. Pardew has won promotion with 2 teams, he's got to the FA cup final, he has a pedigree. Your right things went wrong for him at Charlton, pretty sure there was a lot going on behind the scenes, don't forget, WGS got relegated with Coventry yet was probably one and still is one of most popular managers!

[St Marco]

Yes that was the point I was trying to make

 

Often posters on here complain that managers never have a Plan B if Plan A fails what I am saying is that Nicola and Markhus do not seem to have a Plan B.

 

Pardew may work out I dont know and neither does anyone else I would have thought a couple of wins this week will make things look a bit more rosy

 

Yeah i imagine their plan B is to sack Pardew and get Fergie in then hand him £50m so we can get out of league one.

 

Come on guy's seriously, listen to yourselves. You wonder why people laugh at you and don't take you seriously is because of stuff like this.

 

No club has a plan b going, they do not have things in the wing waiting to happen when someone get's fired etc.. Imagine if a manager found out the board had signed up xyz to takeover his job if it went wrong. If your job had that would you be happy? Obviously not.

 

Right now our club has just come out of admin almost 2 months ago. With almost zero coaching staff left at the club. A huge exodus of players and bugger all scouts. It was just a name nothing more. ML has paid however much he has paid to buy the club and is taking it one step at a time. Anyone who listened to Nicola at the fans forum would of understood how busy he is and what his plans are. He is not going to risk having the same thing happen again and im sure 99% of people believe that is the way it should be.

Look at Portsmouth and what happens when you spend un-wisely.

 

The stats and figures show the club is improving, pointed out that a win tommorow would mean for the month of the september we would be 3rd best team in that month. Meaning if the season started in September and we did not have -10 we would be 3rd. Would you people being saying what you are now about plan b's and what not?

 

Nobody is saying your not entitled to your opinions because you are but surely for what your saying to hold any weight or to be respected must mean it has to go the other way too. Meaning if your having doubts after 9 games and treading on the negative side of things you must then become vocal about being supportive when it is going right? And "if" we did win against Bristol as mentioned for the month of September we could be 3rd. A huge improvement from the previous month.

 

I think this is what most people expect from you. When the team is doing not so well your very vocal about how the world is falling apart but when it is going well you seem to vanish. People obviously have different definitions of what supporting is.

 

Last season i was very vocal about Wotte but prior to that i supported JP until xmas even though we all knew he would fook up. We knew to avoid relegation you must win games. But in a way it was not his fault. He came in and was just a puppet for the old regime. We had no money so they tried to draw it out as long as possible by doing everything cheap. There was no plans there for the future. So when it went wrong there was nothing we could do but continue on that course, we had no other options.

Now is totally different. We have people in charge who are obviously not here for money or for wanting to be a media mogal/celebtrity. As far as im aware ML has said pretty much bugger all since he has been here after the first few weeks. Nicola has only really said anything at the fans forum. They are keeping us involved in what is happening but doing it in a way that does not try and make them look good. They are not after publicity.

 

The plan is a longterm plan. It is not a put everything in one basket plan like last season. We no longer need to gamble and this is the mentality people need to get away from. It is not an everything now or i will cry thing. A step forwards will always take you somewhere forwards. The speed of those steps is obviously not as fast as some expect but the principle is the same, they are going forwards.

So surely being a Saints fan you must be happy for the first time in god knows when we finally are able to plan for the following seasons rather then hoping the one were in turns out for the best by pure luck?

 

This season is not about promotion. It never was. It is about getting the club both outside and in back on it's feet. Giving it the best possible chance to succeed in the future. Quick fix decisions lead us to where we were. Why are some so eagre to return to that?

 

rant over

[jam]

Nowhere did I post that he did....

 

Well that's the impression you gave when you wrote this:

 

So you think Wotte would of done a better job despite getting us relegated?

 

Why and where does it say that AP cannot be sacked - you do not get where they are in business by not taking action.

I find it absurd that people suggest keeping on a proven failure yet haven't given the new guy more than ten games before deciding he is and in the same breath talk about continuity - can you not see that?

How can you talk about Wotte and continuity then state that we cannot sack AP?

 

Where have I talked about Wotte and continuity? Where have I stated that we CANNOT sack AP? And for that matter, who on this board has decided that he is a failure after 10 games?

 

I simply tried to clarify a poster's comment for you. IF Pardew fails then it will be HARDER for NC to sack the man he brought in than someone who was already here. It will give ammunition to people who want to portray him as trigger happy or unqualified to run a football club. For example, anyone who wants to sell a newspaper.

 

It's a pretty obvious point and frankly not worth all the posts (especially two of my three ) as pretty much everyone expect Pardew to turn it around and deliver us a solid, if not better, season.

 

Even more so after we stuff Rovers tomorrow night

[Give it to Ron]

Well that's the impression you gave when you wrote this:

 

 

 

 

 

Where have I talked about Wotte and continuity? Where have I stated that we CANNOT sack AP? And for that matter, who on this board has decided that he is a failure after 10 games?

 

I simply tried to clarify a poster's comment for you. IF Pardew fails then it will be HARDER for NC to sack the man he brought in than someone who was already here. It will give ammunition to people who want to portray him as trigger happy or unqualified to run a football club. For example, anyone who wants to sell a newspaper.

 

 

You didn't but John B did and thats where you are getting confused....if you read back through you will see al those points made.

As for who has decided on this board ...go back to 46# case proved.

[John B]

You didn't but John B did and thats where you are getting confused....if you read back through you will see al those points made.

As for who has decided on this board ...go back to 46# case proved.

 

You do get confused easily

 

 

Football is a game of Opinions - you think Pardew is going to be a good manager for SFC others do not - I dont know

 

He may well become great and get us to the Premiership but at the moment that is not certain so I was suggesting another alternative plan that could have been adopted which you disagree with thats all

[RedAndWhite91]

I think you may find that Wotte's record may have been better than Pardew's record at Charlton where he was a complete failure apparently.

 

But that is not the point as I was just suggesting that we are left with Pardew no matter how good or bad he is and bringing in a DOF is going to be difficult.

 

I would also suggest that after 10 games people were calling for the heads of Wigley Gray and JP.

 

You make it sound like Pardew was last chance saloon, the only one left and our only option. This wasn't the case. Pardew has managed in an FA Cup final. Won promotion twice with two different times. It is not a case of 'we are left with him', more 'we have him'. Cortese decided that Pardew would be the best man for the job out of a shortlist of many. I bet there are many teams in League One who would love to have Pardew as a manager (excluding Charlton).

[John B]

You make it sound like Pardew was last chance saloon, the only one left and our only option. This wasn't the case. Pardew has managed in an FA Cup final. Won promotion twice with two different times. It is not a case of 'we are left with him', more 'we have him'. Cortese decided that Pardew would be the best man for the job out of a shortlist of many. I bet there are many teams in League One who would love to have Pardew as a manager (excluding Charlton).

 

This is a forum to discuss SFC not a place to blindly agree with everything Pardew and Cortese do.

 

There are always other alternatives

[RedAndWhite91]

This is a forum to discuss SFC not a place to blindly agree with everything Pardew and Cortese do.

 

There are always other alternatives

 

Am I, or am I not, discussing SFC? Maybe my opinions fall into the category of supporting our current manager, what of it? I don't blindly agree with everything Pardew and Cortese do for the record, but part of opinion is debate, and perhaps you could debate what I said instead of telling me what I can or can't discuss.

[Give it to Ron]

You do get confused easily

 

 

Football is a game of Opinions - you think Pardew is going to be a good manager for SFC others do not - I dont know

 

He may well become great and get us to the Premiership but at the moment that is not certain so I was suggesting another alternative plan that could have been adopted which you disagree with thats all

 

Why do you keep saying I am this and am that....its complete ******** its that I don't agree with you and that you cannot handle a different opinion.

Stop telling me what I am and discuss the issue.....you think AP is crap after 10 games....I think he has shown vast improvement on what we had and the situation he had to take over in.

 

You did not answer the question...why is it going to be difficult to bring in a DOF given that both have agreed in principle.

[John B]

Why do you keep saying I am this and am that....its complete ******** its that I don't agree with you and that you cannot handle a different opinion.

Stop telling me what I am and discuss the issue.....you think AP is crap after 10 games....I think he has shown vast improvement on what we had and the situation he had to take over in.

 

You did not answer the question...why is it going to be difficult to bring in a DOF given that both have agreed in principle.

 

I dont think you can grasp the fact that Pardew may not be the answer to SFC but he may well be the answer only time will tell.

 

The problem I am discussing is what happens if he does not manage to get the team playing well in the next month or two.

 

At the moment surely the results are not that good .

 

I am not saying he is crap I am not saying he is doing a very good job either.

 

 

I just think if a DOF is to be appointed he should have been appointed first as nobody really like people being appointed over their heads.

 

You probably have a view and think that Pardew is going to deliver the goods which of course I would like to happen but what if he does not.

[monosaint]

If you check out the League Tables from Division 1 over the last two seasons and work out where we would need to be without the -10 to avoid relegation then you would find that the 13th and 14th would be enough to keep us there. Not an onerous task in my opinion. Anywhere in the top half and we are way clear. Look at the stats. and you might take a more positive view of our chances.

[John B]

Am I, or am I not, discussing SFC? Maybe my opinions fall into the category of supporting our current manager, what of it? I don't blindly agree with everything Pardew and Cortese do for the record, but part of opinion is debate, and perhaps you could debate what I said instead of telling me what I can or can't discuss.

 

I think we are in agreement I did not say that you were blindly supporting Pardew / Cortese I was really suggesting that it should be possible discuss things and put forward different ideas as oppossed to agreeing every thing that Cortese and Pardew do is right.

[up and away]

I dont think you can grasp the fact that Pardew may not be the answer to SFC but he may well be the answer only time will tell.

 

The problem I am discussing is what happens if he does not manage to get the team playing well in the next month or two.

 

At the moment surely the results are not that good .

 

I am not saying he is crap I am not saying he is doing a very good job either.

 

 

I just think if a DOF is to be appointed he should have been appointed first as nobody really like people being appointed over their heads.

 

You probably have a view and think that Pardew is going to deliver the goods which of course I would like to happen but what if he does not.

 

A DOF is only really needed prior to going into the Premier, where all the big money and decisions will be made. Can you get someone of real value with that criteria considering the position the club is in now?

 

As for Pardew, I think he will deliver the goods though I will not hide my disappointment at the progress so far. I find his comments particularly lame in comparison to reality and the situation in hand, almost a sense of mild panic. He seems slow in recognising problems but without a doubt is getting there. The players he has brought in all look pretty good to say the least. I can easily see Pardew doing the job, just frustrated at the progress and the hopes of getting out of this leaue this season.

[Give it to Ron]

I dont think you can grasp the fact that Pardew may not be the answer to SFC but he may well be the answer only time will tell.

 

The problem I am discussing is what happens if he does not manage to get the team playing well in the next month or two.

 

At the moment surely the results are not that good .

 

I am not saying he is crap I am not saying he is doing a very good job either.

 

 

I just think if a DOF is to be appointed he should have been appointed first as nobody really like people being appointed over their heads.

 

You probably have a view and think that Pardew is going to deliver the goods which of course I would like to happen but what if he does not.

 

Here you go again I can't grasp the fact....yet you are the one who is ignoring the fact that I suggested 2 alternatives to Pardew if it doesn't work out!!!

 

Yes I do believe that Pardew will deliver the goods because quite frankly he hasn't been given enough time yet to think anything else and anyone who thinks he has is a complete moron!

[sadoldgit]

Yeah, but Burley seemed to take the banality of the exercise to new heights.

 

But maybe that was more to do with the fact that the interviewer was forbidden from asking anything in the slightest way challenging.

 

So tell me Alpine, what do you expect football managers (not the most erudite of men by and large) to come out with when they have a microphone shoved under their nose the minute the final whistle goes and they have just lost the game? A bit of Shakespeare perhaps?

 

You still seem oblivious to the fact that stat-wise he won every other game, but, hey, let's just concentrate of his after game interviews shall we?

[RedAndWhite91]

I think we are in agreement I did not say that you were blindly supporting Pardew / Cortese I was really suggesting that it should be possible discuss things and put forward different ideas as oppossed to agreeing every thing that Cortese and Pardew do is right.

 

I think you did say that though:

 

This is a forum to discuss SFC not a place to blindly agree with everything Pardew and Cortese do.

 

There are always other alternatives

[ghq]

Well done St Marco,(post #72), a voice of reason amongst some peculiar points of view.

I would, like most, prefer to be flying high instead of our present position, but really am happy to be where we are, rather than more of the joke administration we've had for the past years. More than happy.

[alpine_saint]

So tell me Alpine, what do you expect football managers (not the most erudite of men by and large) to come out with when they have a microphone shoved under their nose the minute the final whistle goes and they have just lost the game? A bit of Shakespeare perhaps?

 

You still seem oblivious to the fact that stat-wise he won every other game, but, hey, let's just concentrate of his after game interviews shall we?

 

Oh dear..