Hampshire 2009

[John B]

Slightly underwhelming

 

Positives

 

Adams Carberry Lumb (in onedayers) getting in Cork Cup Win

 

 

Pothas reliable as ever

 

 

Disappointments

 

 

The pace attack - Tremlett in particular and the 20/20 team

[manji]

A tinge harsh I reckon and only one game away from the 20/20 finals. Adams my player of the year and a lot of the youngsters stepped up to the plate Griffiths , Briggs , Tomlinson , Dawson as a useful opener.

A couple of additions next season and we should be a force to reckoned with.

Agree about Tremlett though....................

[John B]

A tinge harsh I reckon and only one game away from the 20/20 finals. Adams my player of the year and a lot of the youngsters stepped up to the plate Griffiths , Briggs , Tomlinson , Dawson as a useful opener.

A couple of additions next season and we should be a force to reckoned with.

Agree about Tremlett though....................

 

The 20/20 team seemed to panic and lose games which they should have won.

 

The youngsters were OK but not outstanding I dont think Dawson played as well this season than he had done before.

 

Dimi was in and out of the England side which must have been unsettling

Edited 26 September, 2009 by John B

[chrisobee]

Disappointed we did not do better in CC1 but as pointed out the absence of Dimi at certain times and Tremlett's poor form did not help, In the end we are still in CC1 and winners of one of the 4 trophies on offer. Most teams would prefer our season and even Sussex who did win the 20/20 and probably Pro40 were relegated so all in all I suggest only Durham had a better season.

Dawson is still only 18/19 so his potential is still to be realised and of course we have several good young players who wil only improve.

[saint_stevo]

plus Mendis next year should be faaarkin sweet

[chrisobee]

plus Mendis next year should be faaarkin sweet

 

Indeed and if we get Kabir Ali as well then who knows, maybe time for Tremlett to move on and maybe to Worcester!

[Leicestersaint]

Well we won the cup and have several promising younger players coming through, but I thought we were disappointing in the Pro40 and on occasions in the Championship. I see plenty of hope for the future.:smt041

[John B]

Well we won the cup and have several promising younger players coming through, but I thought we were disappointing in the Pro40 and on occasions in the Championship. I see plenty of hope for the future.:smt041

 

Although hope for the future is a worthy sentiment it is now that matters and we have always had promising youngsters coming through but few make the grade unfortunately.

 

Only Adams of the present team is the really good local lad to be fully deserving of a place in the side although Dawson has played well whenever I have seen him

Edited 27 September, 2009 by John B

[Weston Saint]

Adams was my man of the season. Has become a very good and reliable opener and fielder. Some stunning catches

 

Carberry also had a great season with the bat and but for his injury would have run Adams close.

 

Lumb has had a fantastic one day season but disappointed in the 4 day game. He has, however managed 1,000 runs in first class cricket and another 1,000 in the ListA/T20

 

Dawson has had his first full season in the first team and we must not forget he is still only 19. He and the coaches considers him a batsman and for that reason he has opened (to gain discipline and build an innings) whilst restricting his bowling involvement. A decent season with much promise of more to come as he gains experience.

 

Benham has had a disapointing season and looked like on who might find himself in the wilderness. Of late however he has shown a much more mature approach and the runs have begun to flow.

 

Vince is the new youngster on the block. He has all the makings of a very good and stylish number 3 or 4 batsman in the Vaughan/Gower mould. However he probably needs another year in the seconds to lean his trade. I expect him to only get limited exposure next season in the first team

 

Ervine has had another indiferent season by his early standard but is a very useful all rounder and will continue to feature as a regular

 

Pothas is immense and I would have preferred him as club captain. Not so adventurous as Dimi but a better motivator. Like Carberry, runs Adams close to man of the season.

 

Mascarenhas has had a very disappointing season for me. He is still a player you cannot leave out when fit and available but we have not missed him that much when he has not been around this season.

 

Cork seems to go on and on. A much better season for us than he had for Lancs last season. Definately a plus

 

Tahir has had a good second season with us. Started slow but without his bowling I think we might well have been relegated. He was our leading wicket taker in the longer version of the game.

 

Tremlett had his usual injury problems and you have to feel sorry for him. A move away from Hampshire might suit him but he is still under contract for next season

 

Tomlinson came into the season with a slight injury and has never been able to show the form of last year. He has not been able to get in the side much of late due to the emergance of Griffiths

 

Griffiths has avoided a lot of the injuries that plagued his early career. His speed and form of late had Middlesex & Yorkshire making approaches but he has agreed a new contract with Hampshire.

 

Balcolme is the unlucky one who just cannot get into the side at present. His time will come either for Hampshire or at another 1st class county. Not suggesting he will move at present.

 

Burrows is a very good wicket keeper and did not let himself down in that role when Pothas injured. However his batting lets him down and the team were unbalanced when he was in. He is presently looking for another county. Bates in the academy (picked for England Under 19's for this winter) will likely be the understudy next season although he too needs to work of his batting skills.

 

Riazuddin did reasonably well in the one dayers but has yet to break into the 1st team properly yet. He too is only 19

 

Briggs was the suprise package coming into the side late in the season and he did his future no harm at all

 

As a team we had a disappointing Championship season but with strengthening, Mendis for Tahir and possibly Ali from Worcestershire I can see us competing for the Championship next season.

 

We won the FP Trophy in the 50 over game but in the 40 over league we lost our way in the middle of the season ending mid table. Getting knocked out in the QF of the T20 was very disappointing but again I feel we can win this next season. We are getting better at the shorter game so that is progres this season.

 

Mascarenhas has some games for England IOD side but he is not likely to tour at all this winter. Lumb made the England 30 but not the final party. Carberry is almost over his finger fracture and is eagerly awaiting a call into the Lions tour squad.

 

Earlier this season we had Dawson captaining the England Under 19's and that role was taken over by Riazuddin. Wood Vince and Briggs also played during that tour and later at home. Wood & Riazuddin are now 19 but Vince, Bates and Briggs have received confirmation that they are in the Under 19 party this winter.

 

Roll on next summer.

[chrisobee]

Very good summing up WS. Wouldn't disagree with much of that though Pothas would be player of the season, our batting is just much more solid when he plays.

I feel genuine sympathy for Tremlett, really cannot stay fit which is not his fault. Still think he could be a very good bowler for us IF he could stay fit but he just seems to be one of those players who cannot.

As for Cork a friend of mine who support Lancs has sounded like David Lloyd all season bumbling on as to how he should never have been allowed to leave ! Our gain I'm glad to say !!

I predict next season we'll run Durham close, Mendis I'm really looking forward to joining us as much as I think Tahir is excellent also.

[John B]

Adams was my man of the season. Has become a very good and reliable opener and fielder. Some stunning catches

 

Carberry also had a great season with the bat and but for his injury would have run Adams close.

 

Lumb has had a fantastic one day season but disappointed in the 4 day game. He has, however managed 1,000 runs in first class cricket and another 1,000 in the ListA/T20

 

Dawson has had his first full season in the first team and we must not forget he is still only 19. He and the coaches considers him a batsman and for that reason he has opened (to gain discipline and build an innings) whilst restricting his bowling involvement. A decent season with much promise of more to come as he gains experience.

 

Benham has had a disapointing season and looked like on who might find himself in the wilderness. Of late however he has shown a much more mature approach and the runs have begun to flow.

 

Vince is the new youngster on the block. He has all the makings of a very good and stylish number 3 or 4 batsman in the Vaughan/Gower mould. However he probably needs another year in the seconds to lean his trade. I expect him to only get limited exposure next season in the first team

 

Ervine has had another indiferent season by his early standard but is a very useful all rounder and will continue to feature as a regular

 

Pothas is immense and I would have preferred him as club captain. Not so adventurous as Dimi but a better motivator. Like Carberry, runs Adams close to man of the season.

 

Mascarenhas has had a very disappointing season for me. He is still a player you cannot leave out when fit and available but we have not missed him that much when he has not been around this season.

 

Cork seems to go on and on. A much better season for us than he had for Lancs last season. Definately a plus

 

Tahir has had a good second season with us. Started slow but without his bowling I think we might well have been relegated. He was our leading wicket taker in the longer version of the game.

 

Tremlett had his usual injury problems and you have to feel sorry for him. A move away from Hampshire might suit him but he is still under contract for next season

 

Tomlinson came into the season with a slight injury and has never been able to show the form of last year. He has not been able to get in the side much of late due to the emergance of Griffiths

 

Griffiths has avoided a lot of the injuries that plagued his early career. His speed and form of late had Middlesex & Yorkshire making approaches but he has agreed a new contract with Hampshire.

 

Balcolme is the unlucky one who just cannot get into the side at present. His time will come either for Hampshire or at another 1st class county. Not suggesting he will move at present.

 

Burrows is a very good wicket keeper and did not let himself down in that role when Pothas injured. However his batting lets him down and the team were unbalanced when he was in. He is presently looking for another county. Bates in the academy (picked for England Under 19's for this winter) will likely be the understudy next season although he too needs to work of his batting skills.

 

Riazuddin did reasonably well in the one dayers but has yet to break into the 1st team properly yet. He too is only 19

 

Briggs was the suprise package coming into the side late in the season and he did his future no harm at all

 

As a team we had a disappointing Championship season but with strengthening, Mendis for Tahir and possibly Ali from Worcestershire I can see us competing for the Championship next season.

 

We won the FP Trophy in the 50 over game but in the 40 over league we lost our way in the middle of the season ending mid table. Getting knocked out in the QF of the T20 was very disappointing but again I feel we can win this next season. We are getting better at the shorter game so that is progres this season.

 

Mascarenhas has some games for England IOD side but he is not likely to tour at all this winter. Lumb made the England 30 but not the final party. Carberry is almost over his finger fracture and is eagerly awaiting a call into the Lions tour squad.

 

Earlier this season we had Dawson captaining the England Under 19's and that role was taken over by Riazuddin. Wood Vince and Briggs also played during that tour and later at home. Wood & Riazuddin are now 19 but Vince, Bates and Briggs have received confirmation that they are in the Under 19 party this winter.

 

Roll on next summer.

 

Yes very good summation

 

 

but

 

 

How is this explained

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/averages/6908070.stm

 

 

 

ERVINE MVP

[Weston Saint]

Most valued player is calculated over all types of the game.

 

For instance in the Championship our highest rated player is Tahir at 16, Adams at 20, Carberry at 26 and then Ervine at 44. Pothas is not even in the top 100.

 

In the Friends Provident Cork is our best at 9 with Lumb at 17 and Ervine at 20. Benham is 21 and Carberry 24 followed by Dawson at 36, Adams at 57, Taylor at 58, Mascarenhas at 63 and Pothas is at 88

 

In the T20 Lumb is our highest at 8 with Ervine at 10, Mascarenhas 23 Carberry at 55 Cork at 74, Tahir at 90

 

In the Pro40 Ervine comes in at 22, Lumb 26, Vince 43, Mascarenhas 44, Adams 53, Dawson 62 and Tahir 77

 

http://www.thepca.co.uk/mvp-09.html

 

Many people knock Ervine and I have said has not come up to the standard of his pre injury 1st season with us but the stats show his overall worth to the team.

 

Michael Carberry said to me at the begining of the season when I asked him if he had set a runs target for the season that he did not set such targets. His target is to make a difference in each game. If he made 150 and that contributed to a win, fine but the team lost what help was that! But if he made little runs but did something in the fields to contribute to a win that was what was important. Ervine seems to be doing just that.

[SO5 4BW]

Agree with most of the above - Adams player of the season, but a close run thing with Pothas. I think when NP finally retires (hopefully not for a while yet) we'll see him as one of HCCC's all-time greats.

Anybody know about Mendis's availability next year? A poster on BBC's 606 said that we only had him for 4 weeks at the start of the year and 4 weeks at the end, with Tahir perhaps filling in the gap?

Also - the BBC are reporting Simon Jones as a done deal - great if we can actually get him on the field. But does this now rule out a move for Kabir Ali? Anybody itk?

[Weston Saint]

Agree with most of the above - Adams player of the season, but a close run thing with Pothas. I think when NP finally retires (hopefully not for a while yet) we'll see him as one of HCCC's all-time greats.

Anybody know about Mendis's availability next year? A poster on BBC's 606 said that we only had him for 4 weeks at the start of the year and 4 weeks at the end, with Tahir perhaps filling in the gap?

Also - the BBC are reporting Simon Jones as a done deal - great if we can actually get him on the field. But does this now rule out a move for Kabir Ali? Anybody itk?

Kabir Ali is the one Hampshire want if he can sort out his contractural issues with Worcestershire. If Jones comes it will be on a pay as you play basis.

 

Glamorgan Chairman was keen on giving Jones a proper contract but I believe there may be opposition or concerns from other members of the Glamorgan Board.

 

Edit: Just looked at the BBC report. Jones looks a done deal.

Edited 28 September, 2009 by Weston Saint

[keithd]

I'd be delighted to have a fit and firing Simon Jones in our squad next season. OF course the key word here is fit. Whether he can ever reach his form of 2004/2005 is open for question.

 

Kabir Ali would be an extremely welcome member of the squad, nay the team, too.

 

Carberry would be in my top 3 players this season, Lumb for his one day form. Rightly acknowldged by England naming him in the 30 man squad (and blimey, England have found a bit of form!)

 

But as mentioned on more than one post, Adams for player of the season for me

[Weston Saint]

Adams won the best player of the year award

 

Carberry won best batsman of the year award

 

Cork won best bowler of the year award

 

Briggs best Academy player of the year award

 

Vince most promising uncapped player of the year award

[chrisobee]

Proof once again, not that it was needed, that Cork was one of the signings of the season. Don't have any problem at all with the awards though I still would have made Pothas my player of the season in spite of what the MVP stats might suggest! That said Adams is a very deserved winner and finally realising his full potential.