St. Jason Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Surely such a legend, England and the Mighty Red & White should be honoured by us?? Ipswich today open the "Sir Bobby Robson" stand...........The kingsland Stand or The Alan Ball stand???? In fact why not go the whole hog, Matt Le Tissier (Itchen) Bobby Stokes (Chapel) Alan Ball (Kingsland) Terry Paine (Northam) Kill 2 birds in with one stone for the people who hate the "we're the Northam, we're the Northam" chant, "we're the Matthew Le Tissier over here" is a bit of a mouthfull :-) Simple's!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saint_Jonny Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 This has been brought up a few times before, the stands are what they are unfortunately and I cant see them being changed, although I do think your idea is better than the current names. Would help give the ground a bit more character, not least amongst visiting supporters.
saint lard Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Perhaps the 'Pullis End' maybe out of the question. IMO,renaming one if not all the stands in honour of certain individuals is something that should be considered.
rpb Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 In fact why not go the whole hog, Matt Le Tissier (Itchen) Bobby Stokes (Chapel) Alan Ball (Kingsland) Terry Paine (Northam) Kill 2 birds in with one stone for the people who hate the "we're the Northam, we're the Northam" chant, "we're the Matthew Le Tissier over here" is a bit of a mouthfull :-) Simple's!!!!!!!!!!!!! What have you got against Mike Channon? Not so simple!!!!
St. Jason Posted 26 September, 2009 Author Posted 26 September, 2009 would all the seats squeak? Could have orange seats http://www.brendanloy.com/blog/images/neyland-orange.jpg
Saint_Jonny Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 We could name the bogs after Rupes... I lol'd
Pilchards Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 IMHO Alan Ball does not warrant a stand named after him as he achieved so much more elsewhere rather than at Saints. Channon, Mcmenemy, Le Tiss, Paine, Davies & Bates (to name a few) have done such for Saints and we should hold tight for now!
Cricketphilly Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 IMHO Alan Ball does not warrant a stand named after him as he achieved so much more elsewhere rather than at Saints. Channon, Mcmenemy, Le Tiss, Paine, Davies & Bates (to name a few) have done such for Saints and we should hold tight for now! Here Here!
OldNick Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Difficult one for me. Ex Pompey manager , walked out on us and gave quotes of 'I would have crawled over broken glass to get the job' Upseting times.Have heard that the club did no favours then but not a person who would get 90% approval IMO Why not Wayman, Ron Davies or many others who have been great for us?
St. Jason Posted 26 September, 2009 Author Posted 26 September, 2009 Difficult one for me. Ex Pompey manager , walked out on us and gave quotes of 'I would have crawled over broken glass to get the job' Upseting times.Have heard that the club did no favours then but not a person who would get 90% approval IMO Why not Wayman, Ron Davies or many others who have been great for us? Fair comment mate, still feel it would add more character to the stadium if we had, Matt Le Tissier, Payne, Channon and Stokes as opposed to what we have?? mind you knowing how some people are on here we'd have arguments about who goes where and who should be honoured (not you nick) maybe stay as we are!!!!
OldNick Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Fair comment mate, still feel it would add more character to the stadium if we had, Matt Le Tissier, Payne, Channon and Stokes as opposed to what we have?? mind you knowing how some people are on here we'd have arguments about who goes where and who should be honoured (not you nick) maybe stay as we are!!!! Jason , I promise id be the first to arguew who should not be up there. Very few are untarnised IMO.
Yate Saint Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I don't mind the names anymore. At first I didn't like it but as the years have passed it doesn't really bother me. The naming of the suites after players is/was a good idea. They are better then the 'Friends Provident St Mary's Stadium' anyway!!
Thedelldays Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I dont get why we dont have a Matt Le Tissier stand and/or a Mick Channon stand.. do we have to wait for them to peg it..?
benjii Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I agree. An Alan Ball stand would be perfectly apt and sensible. Much better than naming a stand after some ****-hole part of town.
ringwood Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I think the only person who should have a stand named is Ted Bates, the true grandfather of this club. The others yes great players but how would you decide, Ted I believe would be the only one to receive all round support , and really it should be the Itchen renamed as his statue is placed there.
adrian lord Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 We could name the bogs after Rupes... and have an Ali Dia Commemorative Urinal.
Saint_clark Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I think the only person who should have a stand named is Ted Bates, the true grandfather of this club. The others yes great players but how would you decide, Ted I believe would be the only one to receive all round support , and really it should be the Itchen renamed as his statue is placed there. This.
explorer saint Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Surely such a legend, England and the Mighty Red & White should be honoured by us?? Ipswich today open the "Sir Bobby Robson" stand...........The kingsland Stand or The Alan Ball stand???? In fact why not go the whole hog, Matt Le Tissier (Itchen) Bobby Stokes (Chapel) Alan Ball (Kingsland) Terry Paine (Northam) Kill 2 birds in with one stone for the people who hate the "we're the Northam, we're the Northam" chant, "we're the Matthew Le Tissier over here" is a bit of a mouthfull :-) Simple's!!!!!!!!!!!!! Disagree Ball was an Evertonian rather than a saint, but there should be a Channon stand and one of our stands should be renamed whilst he is still with us. Don't agree with Ipswich if they thought that much of him they should have done this when Robson was alive
krissyboy31 Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Don't agree with Ipswich if they thought that much of him they should have done this when Robson was alive They do have a statue of him, which I believe he unveiled himself!!
krissyboy31 Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I think the only person who should have a stand named is Ted Bates, the true grandfather of this club. The others yes great players but how would you decide, Ted I believe would be the only one to receive all round support , and really it should be the Itchen renamed as his statue is placed there. Disagree with this. If anything there are at least 2 others that merit such a honour. Terry Paine for his never to be beaten 815 appearances and Mick Channon for his unlikely to be beaten 228 goals.
The Farmer Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 IMHO Alan Ball does not warrant a stand named after him as he achieved so much more elsewhere rather than at Saints. Channon, Mcmenemy, Le Tiss, Paine, Davies & Bates (to name a few) have done such for Saints and we should hold tight for now! Ted has his own statue so he is suitably honoured. To try and curtail the number of illuminaries, I'd say stick to players and I'd personally opt for Tiss, Channon, Paine and Holmes. Great servants and the leading players for appearances in the red and white: * Terry Paine 713 * Mick Channon 510 * Nick Holmes 444 * Matt Le Tissier 443 * Tommy Traynor 434 * Jason Dodd 398 * Eric Day 398 * Bert Shelley 392 * Claus Lundekvam 357 * Stan Woodhouse 351 * John Sydenham 342 * Francis Benali 311 * Hugh Fisher 302 * Tommy Mulgrew 293 * Glenn ****erill 287
dronskisaint Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 We could name the bogs after Rupes... Only if the sewer is already taken:D
saintquin Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 The Ted Bates Stadium? Ted Bates (and maybe the present owner) has done more for this club than any body else IMHO.
St Marco Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I like it the way it is to be honest. They all mean something to the city. Some players have done great and deserve some recognition but in all honesty i think they are few. Le Tissier obviously but in many years to come i can see Lawrie getting a statue or something. Sadly probably when he passes on. Love him or hate him he was the one that brought the best years to this club. And obviously Mr Southampton. So those 3 people would be deserving in my view. Alan Ball as good as he was, was just another good player at the club.
Ricky Redstripe Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I would have: The Alan Ball Stand (Chapel) as he was known as a family man. The Ted Bates Stand (Itchen) as he was the main man in club history. The Matt Le Tissier Stand (Northam) as he was the hero of the general Saints supporting public. The Terry Paine Stand (Kingsland) as this stand is closest to the City Centre (The Dell, site of his legendary performances for Saints).
Huntingdon Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 What exactly did Alan Ball achieve with Saints? Not enough to name a stand after him, that's a fact
CB Fry Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 (edited) What exactly did Alan Ball achieve with Saints? Not enough to name a stand after him, that's a fact If he wasn't dead, there is no way people would be going on about naming a stand after him. Good (not great) manager for us, but only did one full season and was off up the M6 for the money as soon as his old chum Franny came calling. Anyway, I like the current names, naming stands after players is lame, naming them after the areas really puts the stadium (a modern building) in the heart of the old city. Edited 26 September, 2009 by CB Fry
NickG Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 don't think Ball should be honoured in that way. to answer op - his record for us isn't in the same league as Robson's for Ipswich.
Ricky Redstripe Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 If he wasn't dead, there is no way people would be going on about naming a stand after him. Good (not great) manager for us, but only did one full season and was off up the M6 for the money as soon as his old chum Franny came calling. Anyway, I like the current names, naming stands after players is lame, naming them after the areas really puts the stadium (a modern building) in the heart of the old city. You never saw him as a player for us then?
CB Fry Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 You never saw him as a player for us then? Nope. Not old enough. Played fewer than 200 games for us, and all of those appearances were during his Indian Summer, not his peak. So in terms of matches played, you'd be better off naming a stand after, say, Matty Oakley. Alan Ball in terms of contribution/affinity to Saints is not Channon, Davies, Le Tissier, Paine or Bates.
Ricky Redstripe Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Nope. Not old enough. Played fewer than 200 games for us, and all of those appearances were during his Indian Summer, not his peak. So in terms of matches played, you'd be better off naming a stand after, say, Matty Oakley. Alan Ball in terms of contribution/affinity to Saints is not Channon, Davies, Le Tissier, Paine or Bates. Well believe me, he was fantastic, and note that I did list Le Tiss, Paine and Bates as well. Davies and Channon I agree weregreat for the club, but hasn't Channon already got a Suite named after him? I'm not sure. Don't honestly think Matt Oakley could be classed in the same league as the others quoted.
Arizona Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 There are just too many legends to try and pick 4 stand out players. I think we should rename the blocks instead of the stands. Then we could honour 40-odd players. Ball, Le Tiss, Channon, Stokes, Moran, Mills, Pahars, Davies and Mark Draper.
docker-p Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Why the constant threads about renaming the stands. I like the stand names as they are. And if we were to re-name the stands I can think of a dozen names more worthy than Alan Ball.
Master Bates Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 IMHO Alan Ball does not warrant a stand named after him as he achieved so much more elsewhere rather than at Saints. Channon, Mcmenemy, Le Tiss, Paine, Davies & Bates (to name a few) have done such for Saints and we should hold tight for now! Here here, it's about time I was recognised.
dickyhale Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 we can call the stadium rupert lowe and name the thunder box after sh!tguyaskham!
BallBoy Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 As much as I love the little man I do not agree that he would be one of the top 4 servants to this club. If we are to name stands after our most treasured players or managers then they would need to be either: 1) Home grown 2) One club players or 3) A very special manager Bobby Robson was a geordie who started his managerial career at Ipswich and turned the club completely around. He was exceptional. Bally was special to me but I could never argue that he was one of our "own".
Junction 9 Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 I would buy a ticket in the Widdrington stand without hesitation.
70's Mike Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Ted has his own statue so he is suitably honoured. To try and curtail the number of illuminaries, I'd say stick to players and I'd personally opt for Tiss, Channon, Paine and Holmes. Great servants and the leading players for appearances in the red and white: * Terry Paine 713 * Mick Channon 510 * Nick Holmes 444 * Matt Le Tissier 443 * Tommy Traynor 434 * Jason Dodd 398 * Eric Day 398 * Bert Shelley 392 * Claus Lundekvam 357 * Stan Woodhouse 351 * John Sydenham 342 * Francis Benali 311 * Hugh Fisher 302 * Tommy Mulgrew 293 * Glenn ****erill 287 much as i loved what Ball did for the club the above post sums up why i do NOT think we should ever consider naming a stand after him.
hamster Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 Alf ramsey went on to do quite well after playing for us. Plus we nicked him from Pompey so would be nice.
adrian lord Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 What exactly did Alan Ball achieve with Saints? Not enough to name a stand after him, that's a fact His incredible performace in the evening League Cup match at the Dell, V Man City in '78 when we won 2-1 deserved a stand naming after him alone.
Colinjb Posted 26 September, 2009 Posted 26 September, 2009 No, Ted Bates is the only man worthy of naming a stand after.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 27 September, 2009 Posted 27 September, 2009 No, Ted Bates is the only man worthy of naming a stand after. Agreed although in recognition of their efforts we could have the Le Tissier, Crouch, Lynam and Fialka stand. Rename the Kingsland to Bates and the Itchen to Liebherr and if anyone else devotes their entire life to the club or saves it from extinction with many millions of their own pounds then the Chapel or Northam can be renamed but that may be a while yet.
hamster Posted 27 September, 2009 Posted 27 September, 2009 It's a hornet's nest. No, you are getting confused with this place: How about The Ted Bates Stadium?
St. Jason Posted 27 September, 2009 Author Posted 27 September, 2009 I think the only person who should have a stand named is Ted Bates, the true grandfather of this club. The others yes great players but how would you decide, Ted I believe would be the only one to receive all round support , and really it should be the Itchen renamed as his statue is placed there. I agree mate, the 'Ted Bates' stand instead of the Itchen. Don't think you'd get many people argue if a stand was named after Matt Le Tiss or Channon either though??
St. Jason Posted 27 September, 2009 Author Posted 27 September, 2009 No, Ted Bates is the only man worthy of naming a stand after. Why only Ted???? Surely as listed above, Le Tiss, Channon and Payne also merit a mention???
Huntingdon Posted 27 September, 2009 Posted 27 September, 2009 If you asked Saints fans to name their top 6 all-time club legends, I'm fairly certain the list would be Bates, Lawrie Mac, Le Tiss, Paine, Channon & Davies Therefore, only 1 of those deserve stands being named after them, not Alan Ball
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