Squad photo and Marcus Liebherr

[Toadhall Saint]

Do you really think we can compete in the Premiership if and when we return with the club in its current state without a huge amount of investment both on and off the field

 

Not today but in 5 years with steady investment - yes. That has started don't you think?

[mikee]

I don't think that Markus just flies in on game day and then straight back home.

 

The reason I say this is that I was having a lunch meeting at Oxfords on Thursday (before the Yeovil game) and both Nicola and Markus were a couple of tables away and seemed to be locked in deep discussion.

 

Now they could have been assessing the Swiss / Italian chances for the downhill world cup this winter but I suspect they have much Saints related business to sort out and it was good to see Markus spending more time in this neck of the woods.

 

Just before they left, nicola made a quick call and 30 seconds later a blacked out van arrived to whisk them away.

 

It was also interesting that there was no fanfare or fussing either on arrival or departure - in fact you almost felt that the staff at Oxfords had no idea who these foreigners were.

[once_bitterne]

Another thinly veiled attack on the new owners from the Club's Hysterian. I cannot for the life of me think why Duncan never misses an opportunity to get a dig in at ML. From one of the most prominant anti-Lowe brigade I thought he would have been jumping for joy once Lowe was gone but in reality the opposite seems to be the case.

 

The crux of the problem Duncan has with ML which he never tires of telling us is that the club is 'his' and not 'ours' anymore. This would be fine if before ML we were owned by a fan's collective a la Barcelona but is utter b ollox as we were a plc controlled by several large % shareholders. If Duncan really believes that the 0.0000000000000000000000000001% shareholding that some fans held made the club 'theirs' then he is deluded. Before ML it was controlled by Lowe and a couple of others and now it is controlled by one person, in effect no more or no more 'ours' than it ever was.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the only was Duncan will ever be happy with SFC is if we build him a Delorian and set him off back to 1981.......

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Another thinly veiled attack on the new owners from the Club's Hysterian. I cannot for the life of me think why Duncan never misses an opportunity to get a dig in at ML.

 

An attack so thinly veiled I still am unable to see it, if indeed it is an attack it kinda backfired as evidence has been produced of ML's attendance etc....he then goes on to praise AO and I quote "It was good to be able to start to trust the people now running our club tbh" doesn't sound like someone on the attack, or am I missing something ?

[StInky]

An attack so thinly veiled I still am unable to see it

 

 

+ 1

[SW11_Saint]

Last time we had a chairman in the squad photo, everyone on here claimed that the chairman should not be involved in such things. Is it now acceptable?

I'm still not a fan of Chairman or owners appearing in squad pictures, but the BIG difference is that ML has put his money where his mouth is and has 'earned' the right to appear in the picture. L*** never did - it was just an ego trip on his part.

[Brussels Saint]

I'm still not a fan of Chairman or owners appearing in squad pictures, but the BIG difference is that ML has put his money where his mouth is and has 'earned' the right to appear in the picture. L*** never did - it was just an ego trip on his part.

 

I tend to agree with this, as I'm not a huge fan of the chairman being in the squad photo's, but with Markus I really like it. He just looks always so damn jolly.

[skintsaint]

He just looks always so damn jolly.

 

Fat people always tend to be...

[krissyboy31]

Fat people always tend to be...

 

Especially ones with £2bn in the bank.

[Ed Rooney]

Who's the lady behind him ?

[John Boy Saint]

I don't think that Markus just flies in on game day and then straight back home.

 

The reason I say this is that I was having a lunch meeting at Oxfords on Thursday (before the Yeovil game) and both Nicola and Markus were a couple of tables away and seemed to be locked in deep discussion.

 

Now they could have been assessing the Swiss / Italian chances for the downhill world cup this winter but I suspect they have much Saints related business to sort out and it was good to see Markus spending more time in this neck of the woods.

 

Just before they left, nicola made a quick call and 30 seconds later a blacked out van arrived to whisk them away.

 

It was also interesting that there was no fanfare or fussing either on arrival or departure - in fact you almost felt that the staff at Oxfords had no idea who these foreigners were.

 

They weren't playing kidnap again!!

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Another thinly veiled attack on the new owners from the Club's Hysterian. I cannot for the life of me think why Duncan never misses an opportunity to get a dig in at ML. From one of the most prominant anti-Lowe brigade I thought he would have been jumping for joy once Lowe was gone but in reality the opposite seems to be the case.

 

The crux of the problem Duncan has with ML which he never tires of telling us is that the club is 'his' and not 'ours' anymore. This would be fine if before ML we were owned by a fan's collective a la Barcelona but is utter b ollox as we were a plc controlled by several large % shareholders. If Duncan really believes that the 0.0000000000000000000000000001% shareholding that some fans held made the club 'theirs' then he is deluded. Before ML it was controlled by Lowe and a couple of others and now it is controlled by one person, in effect no more or no more 'ours' than it ever was.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the only was Duncan will ever be happy with SFC is if we build him a Delorian and set him off back to 1981.......

 

Sorry you are 100% wrong - I am 100% in full support.

Seems I can't say anything without it being totally misconstrued.

Just because I have quite correctly pointed out the club is 100% his is just a fact.

 

I would really appreciate a retraction here because your post is totally wrong.

[Fowllyd]

Another thinly veiled attack on the new owners from the Club's Hysterian. I cannot for the life of me think why Duncan never misses an opportunity to get a dig in at ML. From one of the most prominant anti-Lowe brigade I thought he would have been jumping for joy once Lowe was gone but in reality the opposite seems to be the case.

 

The crux of the problem Duncan has with ML which he never tires of telling us is that the club is 'his' and not 'ours' anymore. This would be fine if before ML we were owned by a fan's collective a la Barcelona but is utter b ollox as we were a plc controlled by several large % shareholders. If Duncan really believes that the 0.0000000000000000000000000001% shareholding that some fans held made the club 'theirs' then he is deluded. Before ML it was controlled by Lowe and a couple of others and now it is controlled by one person, in effect no more or no more 'ours' than it ever was.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the only was Duncan will ever be happy with SFC is if we build him a Delorian and set him off back to 1981.......

 

I can only assume that you didn't bother to actually read Duncan's original post, preferring to jump to your own conclusion about what it may have said. Either way, your post says far more about your dislike of Duncan than it does about his views on Liebherr et al.

[hypochondriac]

Sorry you are 100% wrong - I am 100% in full support.

Seems I can't say anything without it being totally misconstrued.

Just because I have quite correctly pointed out the club is 100% his is just a fact.

I would really appreciate a retraction here because your post is totally wrong.

 

I think it is more the fact that you have brought it up many many many times. Once Bitterne is totally correct in that the ownership has not actually changed much from what it was before.

[hypochondriac]

I can see how once bitterne could come to the conclusion that he did based on previous posts. Not the original post on this thread though it has to be said.

[MrMojoRisin]

Ive asked the club if a copy could be uploaded to the OS or sent out for distribution for those of use that werent there or didnt buy a programme.

 

You can but them in the megastore for 50p

[Pancake]

You can but them in the megastore for 50p

 

No use if I want it for a desktop background!

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I think it is more the fact that you have brought it up many many many times. Once Bitterne is totally correct in that the ownership has not actually changed much from what it was before.

 

Can I refer you to post 28 in this thread hypo when I said this of AO and the new regime

 

"Actually I was very impressed with his enthusiasm for the future and he was very clued up as to the 125th anniversary next year. He was a lot more relaxed/positive than when he was here last year and he seems to be genuinely keen to be part of our success story.

It was good to be able to start to trust the people now running our club tbh."

 

So,

I don't think you will find me saying one negative thing about the new ownership - for the record I think a single wealthy owner was our only solution and our salvation. What I have pointed out on many occasions when some on here have said "are the club still in debt" is that it is not like it was in the old days when books had to be balanced and boards of directors took decisions with minutes kept. That does not mean it is a bad thing and indeed, I do not think it is a bad thing - its just people like you and Once Bitterne are presuming or putting words in my mouth and that I resent. Surely OB can't have even bothered to have read the whole thread, which at least you have.

 

OB also accuses me of veiling my criticism - I think you have known me on here long enough Hypo to recognise I am not one to normally "veil" my criticism - far from it.

 

I hope the above makes my views very clear.

[Thedelldays]

anyone who thought we ever owned the club in the last 20 years and beyond is a bit simple...

[70's Mike]

Sorry you are 100% wrong - I am 100% in full support.

Seems I can't say anything without it being totally misconstrued.

Just because I have quite correctly pointed out the club is 100% his is just a fact.

 

I would really appreciate a retraction here because your post is totally wrong.

 

do not hold your breath

[corsacar saint]

Markus Liebherr can be in as many photographs as he likes.[ Incase some on here have forgotten, he saved our great club from extinction] .He will also love this club more and

more, as time goes by.[As a fan and not with his owner hat on].

Also can some on here lay of Duncan, he cares alot more than most.

[Ponty]

Sorry you are 100% wrong - I am 100% in full support.

Seems I can't say anything without it being totally misconstrued.

Just because I have quite correctly pointed out the club is 100% his is just a fact.

 

I would really appreciate a retraction here because your post is totally wrong.

 

Even the DeLorean bit?

[hypochondriac]

Can I refer you to post 28 in this thread hypo when I said this of AO and the new regime

 

"Actually I was very impressed with his enthusiasm for the future and he was very clued up as to the 125th anniversary next year. He was a lot more relaxed/positive than when he was here last year and he seems to be genuinely keen to be part of our success story.

It was good to be able to start to trust the people now running our club tbh."

 

So,

I don't think you will find me saying one negative thing about the new ownership - for the record I think a single wealthy owner was our only solution and our salvation. What I have pointed out on many occasions when some on here have said "are the club still in debt" is that it is not like it was in the old days when books had to be balanced and boards of directors took decisions with minutes kept. That does not mean it is a bad thing and indeed, I do not think it is a bad thing - its just people like you and Once Bitterne are presuming or putting words in my mouth and that I resent. Surely OB can't have even bothered to have read the whole thread, which at least you have.

 

OB also accuses me of veiling my criticism - I think you have known me on here long enough Hypo to recognise I am not one to normally "veil" my criticism - far from it.

 

I hope the above makes my views very clear.

 

Fair enough but I think in the past you have been guilty of not getting your views accross particularly well. The way you have repeated that point has made it look like you are not supportive of the new regime. I can accept though that this is not how you meant it.

 

I don't want to be associated with OB either. I don't agree with his views generally and I don't think there is any problem with this thread.

[ulstersaint]

for a rich bloke his suits are awful!

 

And is that Nicole on the left with a striped suit and striped shirt (and perhaps a striped tie)?

 

Striped shirt with plain suit or plain suit with striped shirt - but only one striped item in an outfit.

[ulstersaint]

Last time we had a chairman in the squad photo, everyone on here claimed that the chairman should not be involved in such things. Is it now acceptable?

 

A few differences between Lowe and Marcus. Lowe ruined our club and Marcus is rescuing us; Rupert took money out of the club and Marcus has put his own money into the club - and is even buying his own ticket. Marcus can do as he pleases as it is his club. For that I'm truly thankful.

[MorningtonCrescent]

I've also been vocal about 'the chairman' being in the team photo in the past, but ML paid good money to invest in Saints, confirmed last night as being totally debt free (currently!) - so it's his 'toy' and he can do what he pleases!

 

FWIW - he does come across as being a positive influence on those around him and very pleasant towards anyone who has spoken to him!

 

One very interesting comment from NC last night - they (ML & NC) have quickly come to realise the strength of feeling and passion the fans have for the club and they consider themselves 'custodians' rather than 'owners'!! Such a different angle towards the fans and so refreshing!!

[Clifford Nelson]

I would still love to know how/why Cortese became interested.

 

If you're already wealthy and have some integrity - yes, I know it is a very rare combination - then you might be attracted to neither making, nor losing money, but to set a decent example that success doesn't equate horrifying overdrafts or rich semi-gangsters?