Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 My point is Alps, that in any walk of life (be it business, sport or otherwise), the best way to generate enthusiasm and good performance is to show unqualified support ! Particularly at the start of a new enterprise, this is absolutely crucial ! If you were in a new job situation and became aware of sniping and personal criticism , do you honestly think that this would be preferable to encouragement and the full backing of your colleagues ?? meanwhile...in the world of football...............................
glkdcdes Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 My point is Alps, that in any walk of life (be it business, sport or otherwise), the best way to generate enthusiasm and good performance is to show unqualified support ! Particularly at the start of a new enterprise, this is absolutely crucial ! If you were in a new job situation and became aware of sniping and personal criticism , do you honestly think that this would be preferable to encouragement and the full backing of your colleagues ?? Very good point eurosaint but as you see from a couple of the responses, you are flogging a dead horse.
eurosaint Posted 17 September, 2009 Author Posted 17 September, 2009 meanwhile...in the world of football...............................[/QUOTE] Do I presume from that, you mean 'everyone else is doing it wrong, therefore so should we' ???
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 meanwhile...in the world of football...............................[/QUOTE] Do I presume from that, you mean 'everyone else is doing it wrong, therefore so should we' ??? lets get back in the real world for a minute...for god knows how long football (for good and bad) has every decision, substitution etc disected by fans and media even if it is not favourable, does not mean we are sticking the knife in... pardew is not daft and would expect this and know the result of failure...as im sure the price of success (for him) will be a massively health bank balance..
Gingeletiss Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Football fans in getting restless after no wins in 8 games shocker. Hold the front page! Some were getting restless after 3 games....some after 4. But the moaners are the same old same!!!!......all on here can see who they are. imho of course.
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Some were getting restless after 3 games....some after 4. But the moaners are the same old same!!!!......all on here can see who they are. imho of course. still cant find these "pardew out" posts.....been looking for about 3 weeks now
eurosaint Posted 17 September, 2009 Author Posted 17 September, 2009 lets get back in the real world for a minute...for god knows how long football (for good and bad) has every decision, substitution etc disected by fans and media even if it is not favourable, does not mean we are sticking the knife in... pardew is not daft and would expect this and know the result of failure...as im sure the price of success (for him) will be a massively health bank balance.. I can't see why good man management should be considered as 'outside the real world' Sure Pardew knows the price of success and failure, my point is only that with total support he has a better chance of the former than the latter !!
Give it to Ron Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 still cant find these "pardew out" posts.....been looking for about 3 weeks now Then look harder.....there are a few....here is a clue search threads by Charlie Wayman!
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Then look harder.....there are a few....here is a clue search threads by Charlie Wayman! so...one, on a message board..maybe
LostBoys Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Just another Echo headline with a threadbare article underneath in a slow week for news. I have seen every game this season except Huddersfield and there have been mistakes in my opinion from both manager and some players and there are at least two players in the team who will not be there much longer. I am happy it will come right - we played Charlton off the park for long periods on Saturday - even theit own website agreed.
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 still cant find these "pardew out" posts.....been looking for about 3 weeks now You won't find any....in the same way that the "people are wanting us to go into admin" posters of yore could never come up with more than one poster whom, given a choice, actually called for the club to go into voluntary admin. But that's human beings for you...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Well do you expect them to actually come out and say it ? I don't....plenty who will load the gun but expect others to fire the bullet on here. I do not expect 3 points on Saturday but still wont be calling for Pardews head yet...I think he has until November to get us sorted - we were in that big a mess.
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Then look harder.....there are a few....here is a clue search threads by Charlie Wayman! so...one, on a message board..maybe But, to be fair, that is 0.026% of active members on here.
OldNick Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 so...one, on a message board..maybeI agree many have not said Pardew out, but quite a few have alluded to it. More subtle and underlying quotes.I myself got the impression you had alluded to the same, but i could be wrong.
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 I think he has until November to get us sorted Devils advocate alert.... Any particular date in November?
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 I agree many have not said Pardew out, but quite a few have alluded to it. Correct....c.6 posters at last count, or 0.16% of active SWF members....
Give it to Ron Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Devils advocate alert.... Any particular date in November? 31st ;-)
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Pardew IN..... Poortvliet and Wotte IN! Whoops, sorry, that was the rallying call this time last year....my mistake.... (it's ok....no high horses necessary in response to that one....of course there is no comparison between the credentials of Pardew and the Dynamic Dutch Duo....which only goes to highlight how the 'blind faith' approach can sometimes come unstuck....)
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 31st ;-) I see what you did there....very crafty...and here was me prepared to give him until 29th Feb 2010....
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 i don't believe it's unreasonable for someone to arrive at such an opinion after nearly two months of observation. Whether one agrees with said conclusion is obviously a matter of opinion in itself. Given that Jaidi and Waigo have been available for one game - and neither match fit, and that they are probably the only two better players than members of the squad who were also assembled during the previous seven matches, and that the manager had no pre-season during which to know the existing squad members, I think it is wholly unreasonable. Surely, for at least the first three/four matches the manager is assessing who can and can't play and where? I suspect that any manager worth his salt is actually using substitutions during this period to assess the squad rather than win matches. I would stake my mortgage that a man at the outset of a vision is doing precisely that. Clearly he has an obligation and duty not to sacrifice everything in the pursuit of learning, but how else is he supposed to establish the needs of the team (ie to win games) and then satisfy them either in the market or through squad selection? So yes, observe a manager over seven games and assess the tactical decisions he makes. But factor in ALL aspects of his long-term strategy and also accept that, given the specific circumstances, achieving a draw at the league leaders is probably a good result. In five games time, with the basis of a full and fit squad, there are baffling tactical decisions, I too will be moaning like buggery!
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 LGTC so, every time we sign a ahlf decent player we have to wait 5 games to before we can be worried if our god awful run continues..?
Saint_clark Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Its a good result if you have little ambition when considering the changes on paper that have taken place at this club over the past 2 months......... We should thump Yeovil 4-0, but we will all consider ourselves fortunate if we scrape a 1-0 win, with the eternal optimists like yourselves going on about it being the first win and something to build on ( until we draw or lose the follwoing week, of course...) Why?? We do NOT have a table topping team yet. Charlton do, we held them to a draw at their place, it is a; GOOD. RESULT.
OldNick Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 LGTC so, every time we sign a ahlf decent player we have to wait 5 games to before we can be worried if our god awful run continues..? DD our sole purpose must be staying up this season.I said on numerous occasions we needed a good start or the ans would start to get jittery.We have to cut the gap between us and safety soon I agree but putting up every game is a must win only adds pressure to us.It is patently obvious we need somebody up front alongside Lambert who can put the ball into the net, we need to get a 2 goal lead.I do think that once we have got a win we will then relax more and the best will follow.
Gingeletiss Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Saint Clark...........loosing battle with some, they still think we are a premiership team, they still haven't caught up with the fact, that we are a Div 1 team with ambition now.
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 LGTC so, every time we sign a ahlf decent player we have to wait 5 games to before we can be worried if our god awful run continues..? Not unless we are signing 7 of them, no.
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 DD our sole purpose must be staying up this season.I said on numerous occasions we needed a good start or the ans would start to get jittery.We have to cut the gap between us and safety soon I agree but putting up every game is a must win only adds pressure to us.It is patently obvious we need somebody up front alongside Lambert who can put the ball into the net, we need to get a 2 goal lead.I do think that once we have got a win we will then relax more and the best will follow. thing is...i am not a realist apparently for being nervous about or dreadful start..yet those who call me that seem to ASSUME it will come.. what if pardew has lost his touch..? what if lambert is utter crap for us..? what if jaidi is way past his best..? what if papa waigo is another ali dia..? we just dont know..I would rather we had points on the board than tell everyone "dont worry, 1 win and they will come flooding in"... call me unrealistic then fine but to assume the wins will come after what we have seen so far is silly...and IMO we should have had a couple of wins by now...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Given that Jaidi and Waigo have been available for one game - and neither match fit, and that they are probably the only two better players than members of the squad who were also assembled during the previous seven matches, and that the manager had no pre-season during which to know the existing squad members, I think it is wholly unreasonable. Surely, for at least the first three/four matches the manager is assessing who can and can't play and where? I suspect that any manager worth his salt is actually using substitutions during this period to assess the squad rather than win matches. I would stake my mortgage that a man at the outset of a vision is doing precisely that. Clearly he has an obligation and duty not to sacrifice everything in the pursuit of learning, but how else is he supposed to establish the needs of the team (ie to win games) and then satisfy them either in the market or through squad selection? So yes, observe a manager over seven games and assess the tactical decisions he makes. But factor in ALL aspects of his long-term strategy and also accept that, given the specific circumstances, achieving a draw at the league leaders is probably a good result. In five games time, with the basis of a full and fit squad, there are baffling tactical decisions, I too will be moaning like buggery! How do you explain the simple truth that other clubs with problems quite the equal of ours have made much better starts to their seasons than we have - Newcastle Utd & AFC Bournemouth spring to mind . This suggests to me we are underperforming again even taking the disrupted preseason into account . It's always later than you thing , Alan Pardrew and his team need to start winning football matches pretty damn quick - Yeovil Town on Saturday would be a (very) welcome start .
OldNick Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 thing is...i am not a realist apparently for being nervous about or dreadful start..yet those who call me that seem to ASSUME it will come.. what if pardew has lost his touch..? what if lambert is utter crap for us..? what if jaidi is way past his best..? what if papa waigo is another ali dia..? we just dont know..I would rather we had points on the board than tell everyone "dont worry, 1 win and they will come flooding in"... call me unrealistic then fine but to assume the wins will come after what we have seen so far is silly...and IMO we should have had a couple of wins by now... Nothing wrongwith having concerns. My mindset as you well know is support the club and try and unite behind it even if you have some reservations.I doubt there is a manager that any of us would agree with every time. I also would have liked to have had some players in earlier and got us up and running with an early win.It becomes harder each wek as the win doesnt arrive, the players and fans will get twitchy. We are playing not too bad but we must not fall into the trap of 'we are southampton a bigt club and you are little yeovil' We should respect all the opposing teams and not just keep saying we should beat them because they are c### because frankly so are we. We are slowly getting better but few of our players would get into everyteam in this league,probably 3 at most. KD Hammond and Lambert.
Saint_clark Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 thing is...i am not a realist apparently for being nervous about or dreadful start..yet those who call me that seem to ASSUME it will come.. what if pardew has lost his touch..? what if lambert is utter crap for us..? what if jaidi is way past his best..? what if papa waigo is another ali dia..? we just dont know..I would rather we had points on the board than tell everyone "dont worry, 1 win and they will come flooding in"... call me unrealistic then fine but to assume the wins will come after what we have seen so far is silly...and IMO we should have had a couple of wins by now... What HAVE we seen Delldays? Performances that have greatly improved week after week. Why is it then silly to assume that they will CONTINUE to improve and we will get our first win sometime soon?
OldNick Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 How do you explain the simple truth that other clubs with problems quite the equal of ours have made much better starts to their seasons than we have - Newcastle Utd & AFC Bournemouth spring to mind . This suggests to me we are underperforming again even taking the disrupted preseason into account . It's always later than you thing , Alan Pardrew and his team need to start winning football matches pretty damn quick - Yeovil Town on Saturday would be a (very) welcome start .Bournemouth had a fantastic end to last season ,and a great young manager in place.He has had plenty of time but he has done well.Newcastle have a team of top players and a couple of wins was always going to spark them.
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Nothing wrongwith having concerns. My mindset as you well know is support the club and try and unite behind it even if you have some reservations.I doubt there is a manager that any of us would agree with every time. I also would have liked to have had some players in earlier and got us up and running with an early win.It becomes harder each wek as the win doesnt arrive, the players and fans will get twitchy. We are playing not too bad but we must not fall into the trap of 'we are southampton a bigt club and you are little yeovil' We should respect all the opposing teams and not just keep saying we should beat them because they are c### because frankly so are we. We are slowly getting better but few of our players would get into everyteam in this league,probably 3 at most. KD Hammond and Lambert. agree... the echo made a massively brilliant point...we have to start winning from saturday or questions will need to be asked..and that we should not beat yeovil because of our history, rescources and fanbase (compared to theirs) as it utterly dwarfs them...we should beat them as we have a fair few players (most of our starting 11) that would get into the CCC at ease..where as, they will be lucky if they have 1 player like that... should we not win against yeovil that are reallly really poor, then I will be very worried at our preperations and setup for such games..
saint_stevo Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Another thread of people shouting down opinions different to there own? Nice. I have made little secret of the fact i am yet to be convinced about AP, or about a couple of his signings. I am willing to give them time, but it is slowly running down, and we are still adrift, further adrift than we were before we played Millwall. Yet to win a game is also a worry, our pre-season form seems to have carried over. I just hope Waigo is bloody good, cos it seems he needs to be
Saint_clark Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Another thread of people shouting down opinions different to there own? Nice. I have made little secret of the fact i am yet to be convinced about AP, or about a couple of his signings. I am willing to give them time, but it is slowly running down, and we are still adrift, further adrift than we were before we played Millwall. Yet to win a game is also a worry, our pre-season form seems to have carried over. I just hope Waigo is bloody good, cos it seems he needs to be Which ones, out of interest? I'm not having a go.
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 How do you explain the simple truth that other clubs with problems quite the equal of ours have made much better starts to their seasons than we have - Newcastle Utd & AFC Bournemouth spring to mind . This suggests to me we are underperforming again even taking the disrupted preseason into account . It's always later than you thing , Alan Pardrew and his team need to start winning football matches pretty damn quick - Yeovil Town on Saturday would be a (very) welcome start . I cannot comment on those clubs as I have no idea (not supporting them) whether the 11 who started (and lost) against Blackpool contained 50%, 60% or 100% of the team who started the last match last season. All I can tell you is that to judge a manager of any team and find him wanting after seven games is bonkers, totally and utterly bonkers, unless his team have been hammered every week and show no signs of looking like a football team. It is particularly mental to say things are not improving when you go to the league leaders and deserve at least a draw, possibly a win. Conversely, I agree, Saturday's result makes a win against Yeovil imperative, otherwise it would be a regression and not the progression we have seen. I fully expect us to win. NOT because 'we should' - because this is a mythical belief fostered in internet forums (otherwise Liverpool would have beaten Wimbledon, Spurs would have beaten Coventry, United would have beaten Southampton and so on...) BUT we should win because we are playing some good football, look like a half-decent team and now have a strong squad with some excelent players. What will stop us winning, in my opinion, is only self-belief and anxiety. But I fully expect us to win. By how many goals is irrelevant. Three points we need. Goals would help build confidence but not as much as a good performance and a win!!!
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 so LGTC (for arguements sake) what will be your stance if we fail to beat yeovil and draw say..?
saint_stevo Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Which ones, out of interest? I'm not having a go. Lambert and Mellis
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 so LGTC (for arguements sake) what will be your stance if we fail to beat yeovil and draw say..? I would be mightly cheesed off. But it would depend on the specifics. If we were leading 3-0 and they won 4-3, I would be deeply, deeply worried. And personally seek out Pardew for a good kicking... If we were winning 1-0, had had three clear goals ruled out for offside when they were on-side. Had the ref miss two blatant penalties, etc and then they snatch an off-side equaliser. I would be miffed but not blame the manager. There are a lot of people in football (fans) who simply don't accept that sometimes you don't get what you deserve or the rub of the green. You can be unlucky, it is a fact. So my stance would depend on what happens on Saturday. But I don't believe we will be having this conversation after Saturday. Then this place will be full of people saying 'I told you so'.. about Pardew when we win. I believe that we will be unbeaten between now and Xmas. Then I will not only say I Told You So, you will bow down before me and worship me as the God of Football Knowledge!!!!!!
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Then this place will be full of people saying 'I told you so'.. about Pardew when we win. why though..? if 1 win equate "i told you so"...then why cant we be displeased (without being told off) at the form so far..?
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 why though..? if 1 win equate "i told you so"...then why cant we be displeased (without being told off) at the form so far..? That was my point - those people will be wrong!!!
trousers Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 If we were leading 3-0 and they won 4-3, I would be deeply, deeply worried. And personally seek out Pardew for a good kicking... If we were winning 1-0, had had three clear goals ruled out for offside when they were on-side. Had the ref miss two blatant penalties, etc and then they snatch an off-side equaliser. I would be miffed but not blame the manager. What if we are winning 1 - 0 but struggling to push on and Yeovil end up snatching a draw due to a (perceived) sequence of poor substitution decisions? For arguments sake....
paris Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 I couldn't of said it better.. Given that Jaidi and Waigo have been available for one game - and neither match fit, and that they are probably the only two better players than members of the squad who were also assembled during the previous seven matches, and that the manager had no pre-season during which to know the existing squad members, I think it is wholly unreasonable. Surely, for at least the first three/four matches the manager is assessing who can and can't play and where? I suspect that any manager worth his salt is actually using substitutions during this period to assess the squad rather than win matches. I would stake my mortgage that a man at the outset of a vision is doing precisely that. Clearly he has an obligation and duty not to sacrifice everything in the pursuit of learning, but how else is he supposed to establish the needs of the team (ie to win games) and then satisfy them either in the market or through squad selection? So yes, observe a manager over seven games and assess the tactical decisions he makes. But factor in ALL aspects of his long-term strategy and also accept that, given the specific circumstances, achieving a draw at the league leaders is probably a good result. In five games time, with the basis of a full and fit squad, there are baffling tactical decisions, I too will be moaning like buggery!
david in sweden Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Can't really disagree with this . If we ultimately improve enough to finish in your safe mid-table prediction (or even anywhere above the bottom four) then most reasonable fans on here would be content enough for this initial season . But let's be absolutely clear on this - that is the bare minimal result required from Alan Pardrew and his team . Until we start to perform like a team that's capable of achieving that aim then it has to be said the jury's still out on Mr Pardrew - you can rest assured he's been in this game long enough to realise that . As for the benefits of patience it all rather depends on the level of responsibility the job entails does it not ? An airline pilot who crashes his jet twice during his first six weeks on the job might well be considered a fair choice for redundancy ! Perhaps...if they fly AEROFLOT, but two of the most promising new signings haven't had a full outing yet, and most people seem to consider that most of the others; Murty, Harding, Hammond, Lambert and Trotman are worth their places... so we haven't actually played our " strongest side " as yet. It needs time, especially when you remember that our opponents are also trying to win and not laying down in the road waiting to be run over.
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Perhaps...if they fly AEROFLOT, but two of the most promising new signings haven't had a full outing yet, and most people seem to consider that most of the others; Murty, Harding, Hammond, Lambert and Trotman are worth their places...so we haven't actually played our " strongest side " as yet. It needs time, especially when you remember that our opponents are also trying to win and not laying down waiting to be run over. teams change all the team, in every league...many teams probably have hardly played their "best team on paper"...
david in sweden Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 31st ;-) Mmm, I'm often told I have an unusual sense of humour ..but looking at my calendar I see it's a LONG wait until .....November 31st !
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 What if we are winning 1 - 0 but struggling to push on and Yeovil end up snatching a draw due to a (perceived) sequence of poor substitution decisions? For arguments sake.... hahahaha Nice one!!! Look, here is my view for what it's worth. When my daughter first sat astride her bike I was seriously worried - of course I was. She could fall off and hurt herself. Now, I could run along behind holding on with a grimace and let her see my fear and then that would only make her more nervous and the whole thing would end in disaster... Or I could put on a brave face and do the only thing I could that might, might make that slightest bit of difference, and that was to be confident, appear relaxed and offer as much active encouragement as possible. In the end, I can't ride the bike. I can't control whether she succeeds or fails. But I can dictate how I feel about the outcome. Call it old fashioned, call it ill-informed, I don't care. I think I am as worried as the next man that we have not won yet. But the more I show it and try to find a reason to believe that it won't change, the more likely it becomes that what little positive impact I can have is dminished. What's more, I genuinely believe that good things will happen. We have two people running the club who have thus far taken great decisions. This is no guarantee of success. Nor is changing manager, nor is whinging about anything. I genuinely believe that if you keep doing the right things, you get the right result. Our problem is no-one has been given an opportunity yet to do the right things long enough to see a result!!! And I can't condone Alpine moaning about substitutions under the veil of under-performance when what he actually means is 'I don't want Lallana and Morgan in the team, they should have been taken off!'...
GenevaSaint Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 Devils advocate alert.... Any particular date in November? It has to be a Friday
Wes Tender Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 We are slowly getting better but few of our players would get into everyteam in this league,probably 3 at most. KD Hammond and Lambert. I'd put it much higher than that. As well as KD, Hammond and Lambert, I'd say that Harding has consistently performed well, often as man of the match. Jaidi was in the Birmingham squad in the Premiership and Waigo was playing for Fiorentina, so both are arguably much better players than most at this level. Lallana was approached by Premiership teams, so obviously also deemed to be capable of playing at that level too. Murty is another, captain of Reading while they were in the Premiership. Loanees from a club like Chelsea ought also to be at a higher standing than 3rd division players, even if they have not broken into the first team yet. You also seem to have forgotten Saganowski too. Granted that some of these players like Murty have had problems with injuries, but overall, I'd say that most of our players would walk into most of the 3rd division teams and that our squad is the envy of most. When Pardew can get them all to play to the maximum extent of their capabilities as a team, we will be very hard to beat. The bold bit is the crucial part and really what any debate about Pardew is all about. Beyond a reasonable period allowing for the newer players to bed in and gel with their team mates, the excuses will begin to wear a little thin given the quality that we have in this squad at this level.
OldNick Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 I'd put it much higher than that. As well as KD, Hammond and Lambert, I'd say that Harding has consistently performed well, often as man of the match. Jaidi was in the Birmingham squad in the Premiership and Waigo was playing for Fiorentina, so both are arguably much better players than most at this level. Lallana was approached by Premiership teams, so obviously also deemed to be capable of playing at that level too. Murty is another, captain of Reading while they were in the Premiership. Loanees from a club like Chelsea ought also to be at a higher standing than 3rd division players, even if they have not broken into the first team yet. You also seem to have forgotten Saganowski too. Granted that some of these players like Murty have had problems with injuries, but overall, I'd say that most of our players would walk into most of the 3rd division teams and that our squad is the envy of most. When Pardew can get them all to play to the maximum extent of their capabilities as a team, we will be very hard to beat. The bold bit is the crucial part and really what any debate about Pardew is all about. Beyond a reasonable period allowing for the newer players to bed in and gel with their team mates, the excuses will begin to wear a little thin given the quality that we have in this squad at this level.why are they excuses, they are as it is at this moment.I myself can see some real problems in the goalscoring department.He needs to address that quickly.I cant see natural goals scorers there and so he needs to be backed in getting at least 1 in.
West End Saint Posted 17 September, 2009 Posted 17 September, 2009 I think we can start to see what is what with the squad & Pardew over the next 4 games. We have had August as our pre season & this month bedding in new players & now I think we should see Pardews team play Pardews way. I do think we have made progress & are heading the right direction I also think he is the man for the job & will get it right. The time is now for the progress to transfer into points on the board if our rehabilitation takes much longer we could get further & further away from saftey. I would like to think over our next 4 games we will be into a + points position and our season will at last be up & running.
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