chrisobee Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 How's that PC of yours? Hah, see my update in the Lounge, this fool is getting his money back !
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Saw an advert for the program on friday in which Derren Brown talks for a bit, then holds up a plastic snow flake/star. :confused:
benjii Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Saw an advert for the program on friday in which Derren Brown talks for a bit, then holds up a plastic snow flake/star. :confused: Part of the forthcoming fake explanation, no doubt. Or it could be to do with a mathematical equation? Snow flakes are a popular expression of the mathematical concept of fractals, I believe.
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I will be impressed if it is anything other than camera trickery or CGI, basically anything technologically involved as IMO it is pretty easy these days to 'fool' and audience in this way. Whilst watching i was incredibably impressed TBH, i suppose we will see tonight, TBF to the man, DB is usually pretty good, especially compared to the other david blaine
benjii Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I will be impressed if it is anything other than camera trickery or CGI, basically anything technologically involved as IMO it is pretty easy these days to 'fool' and audience in this way. Whilst watching i was incredibably impressed TBH, i suppose we will see tonight, TBF to the man, DB is usually pretty good, especially compared to the other david blaine I'm sure this will be the real explanation but I imagine the explanation tonight will be part of the trick.
Greenridge Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I'm sure this will be the real explanation but I imagine the explanation tonight will be part of the trick. I think you're right there. I really can't see him coming out and saying it was a trick using camera's!
St Marco Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 The Sun (yes i know) Think he had two cameras showing half the screen each http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/2631919/Secret-of-Derrens-Lottery-plottery.html
lettuce Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Maybe he just had that feeling that it was going to be his week!? I'd have been more impressed if DB had shouted out each number literally a second before it rolled out of the machine. The bloke who calls out the numbers as the balls drop into the shute on the regular lottery draw is freaky... sometimes he seems to say the number before the ball has even settled in the hole! :smt119
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 The Sun (yes i know) Think he had two cameras showing half the screen each http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/2631919/Secret-of-Derrens-Lottery-plottery.html Sun columnists reading SWF shocker!! I am genuinely intrigued at how he did it, and will be a little disappointed if it's camera trickery, especially a she clearly stated that 'you might want to have a go yourslef".
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I dont think he's going to reveal exactly how he did it...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 My predictiuon stands, that it will be nothing that anyone on here have come up with. I have my own idea, but am duty bound not share it on public forums, sorry.
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 no matter how he did it...I think Derren Brown is a remarkable talent....I really enjoy watching his stuff
Saintandy666 Posted 11 September, 2009 Author Posted 11 September, 2009 Mathematical you say Derren? LOL. Yer right, let's wait till the end shall we...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 If you are watching right NOW, this will involve a toy mouse imo.
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 This is complete b*llocks. Moderately interesting tricks but f*ck all to do with his lottery trick. Don't forget this is all magic/camera trickery. FACT. Looking forward to picking up my £20 from saint_clark, I have to say.
Colinjb Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I reckon he genuinely believed all this rubbish would result in something that works. Then, when he realised after a few dry runs and a couple of positive results notwithstanding that it was just not repeatable, he brought in a few fake cameras and voila, no breach of contract with Ch4, here's your program.
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 All bs so far then. Come on DB, don't take us for idiots. Well, not all of us anyway.
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 All bs so far then. Come on DB, don't take us for idiots. Well, not all of us anyway. like a toy mouse..
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 This is complete b*llocks. Moderately interesting tricks but f*ck all to do with his lottery trick. Don't forget this is all magic/camera trickery. FACT. Looking forward to picking up my £20 from saint_clark, I have to say. Excuse me? I never agreed to a bet with you :confused: If there is no maths involved in the final prediction, Baj will get £20. No-one else.
Saintandy666 Posted 11 September, 2009 Author Posted 11 September, 2009 See, the average number is interesting but at the end of the day it's still a random number, no better chance than any other number... but it is a formed from a group of random numbers :/ but the coin trick thing is half clever I guess. Predicting the random is oxymoron though.
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 If 24 people chose a random number between 1 and 50 and you took the average, it would be close to (if not) 25, every time...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Even though it was obviously never going to happen, that guy was gutted there was no knife through his foot for a cool £500k.
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 The coin trick has NOTHING to do with "deep maths", they didnt just flick 3 and then end, you can see they were looking for 3 in the sequence of many MANY tosses. you are far more likely to find a mix of H and T than 3 in the row of 1 type. More missdirection
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Even though it was obviously never going to happen, that guy was gutted there was no knife through his foot for a cool £500k. I noticed that.....he really wanted the 500k...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Excuse me? I never agreed to a bet with you :confused: If there is no maths involved in the final prediction, Baj will get £20. No-one else. What a shocking lack of integrity. You don't still think this is a mathematical equation do you?
saint lard Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 (edited) Oh well,David Blaine is on after this. I remember well, laughing at him in a drunken state as he was in his box on the south bank. Now, thats magic/illusion/bollix. Edited 11 September, 2009 by saint lard
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 What a shocking lack of integrity. You don't still think this is a mathematical equation do you? Why? :confused: I told you earlier in the thread that the bet was first come, first serve.
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Excuse me? I never agreed to a bet with you :confused: If there is no maths involved in the final prediction, Baj will get £20. No-one else. He's already robbed you for a fiver, so you only need to draw another 15 out of the hole in the wall tomorrow clarky.
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I noticed that.....he really wanted the 500k... Too right, you ain't gonna lose the ability to walk. £500k is more than worth it.
Colinjb Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 1) The 'helpers' didn't see the maths behind their prediction. 2) They had then bought into the idea and saw statistically it had a chance. Therefore, it's a damned fix.
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Why? :confused: I told you earlier in the thread that the bet was first come, first serve. We had a bona fide bet, remember. Please send £10 of what you owe me to the first witness who can substantiate this.
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Thanks hamster. Come on clarky, pay up.
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I'll be amazed if he doesn't get sued for that. Baj, you'll need to PM me your address so I can send you the £20. Rattlehead, you can f*ck off.
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 well that was an hour of my life ill never get back, still, at least I won £20
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I would also like to take the same bet please. Sorry, first come first serve So go away.
Ponty Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I reckon he genuinely believed all this rubbish would result in something that works. No, he didn't. Then, when he realised after a few dry runs and a couple of positive results notwithstanding that it was just not repeatable, he brought in a few fake cameras and voila, no breach of contract with Ch4, here's your program. He just went straight for the conclusion.
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 So it was camera trickery after all then. I am a wee bit disappointed as he did say that people at home would be able to replicate it. That sort of camera trickery is not really accesible to a normal Joe like us is it.
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 so, how did he do it..? Apparently he fixed the machine (or didn't) but would never admit to it because he never did it. I doubt his cheeky grin will stand up when the lawyers come knocking though.
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I'll be amazed if he doesn't get sued for that. Baj, you'll need to PM me your address so I can send you the £20. Rattlehead, you can f*ck off. You have a PM
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 well that was an hour of my life ill never get back, still, at least I won £20 Ditto, although hamster gets a tenner of my winnings. Cheers clarky.
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 I dont think he's going to reveal exactly how he did it... The only real prediction tonight...
gonzo Posted 11 September, 2009 Posted 11 September, 2009 Thanks hamster. Come on clarky, pay up. Read post #125. He clearly says first come, first serve. Sorry, with clarky on this one.
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