chrisobee Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 How's that PC of yours? Hah, see my update in the Lounge, this fool is getting his money back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Saw an advert for the program on friday in which Derren Brown talks for a bit, then holds up a plastic snow flake/star. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Saw an advert for the program on friday in which Derren Brown talks for a bit, then holds up a plastic snow flake/star. :confused: Part of the forthcoming fake explanation, no doubt. Or it could be to do with a mathematical equation? Snow flakes are a popular expression of the mathematical concept of fractals, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I will be impressed if it is anything other than camera trickery or CGI, basically anything technologically involved as IMO it is pretty easy these days to 'fool' and audience in this way. Whilst watching i was incredibably impressed TBH, i suppose we will see tonight, TBF to the man, DB is usually pretty good, especially compared to the other david blaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I will be impressed if it is anything other than camera trickery or CGI, basically anything technologically involved as IMO it is pretty easy these days to 'fool' and audience in this way. Whilst watching i was incredibably impressed TBH, i suppose we will see tonight, TBF to the man, DB is usually pretty good, especially compared to the other david blaine I'm sure this will be the real explanation but I imagine the explanation tonight will be part of the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I'm sure this will be the real explanation but I imagine the explanation tonight will be part of the trick. I think you're right there. I really can't see him coming out and saying it was a trick using camera's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 The Sun (yes i know) Think he had two cameras showing half the screen each http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/2631919/Secret-of-Derrens-Lottery-plottery.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Maybe he just had that feeling that it was going to be his week!? I'd have been more impressed if DB had shouted out each number literally a second before it rolled out of the machine. The bloke who calls out the numbers as the balls drop into the shute on the regular lottery draw is freaky... sometimes he seems to say the number before the ball has even settled in the hole! :smt119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 The Sun (yes i know) Think he had two cameras showing half the screen each http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/2631919/Secret-of-Derrens-Lottery-plottery.html Sun columnists reading SWF shocker!! I am genuinely intrigued at how he did it, and will be a little disappointed if it's camera trickery, especially a she clearly stated that 'you might want to have a go yourslef". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I dont think he's going to reveal exactly how he did it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 My predictiuon stands, that it will be nothing that anyone on here have come up with. I have my own idea, but am duty bound not share it on public forums, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Here comes the 'prestige'.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 no matter how he did it...I think Derren Brown is a remarkable talent....I really enjoy watching his stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Mathematical you say Derren? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Mathematical you say Derren? LOL. Yer right, let's wait till the end shall we... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 If you are watching right NOW, this will involve a toy mouse imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 /\ My mistake, soz, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 No mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 This is complete b*llocks. Moderately interesting tricks but f*ck all to do with his lottery trick. Don't forget this is all magic/camera trickery. FACT. Looking forward to picking up my £20 from saint_clark, I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I reckon he genuinely believed all this rubbish would result in something that works. Then, when he realised after a few dry runs and a couple of positive results notwithstanding that it was just not repeatable, he brought in a few fake cameras and voila, no breach of contract with Ch4, here's your program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 All bs so far then. Come on DB, don't take us for idiots. Well, not all of us anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 All bs so far then. Come on DB, don't take us for idiots. Well, not all of us anyway. like a toy mouse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 This is complete b*llocks. Moderately interesting tricks but f*ck all to do with his lottery trick. Don't forget this is all magic/camera trickery. FACT. Looking forward to picking up my £20 from saint_clark, I have to say. Excuse me? I never agreed to a bet with you :confused: If there is no maths involved in the final prediction, Baj will get £20. No-one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2009 See, the average number is interesting but at the end of the day it's still a random number, no better chance than any other number... but it is a formed from a group of random numbers :/ but the coin trick thing is half clever I guess. Predicting the random is oxymoron though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 If 24 people chose a random number between 1 and 50 and you took the average, it would be close to (if not) 25, every time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Even though it was obviously never going to happen, that guy was gutted there was no knife through his foot for a cool £500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 The coin trick has NOTHING to do with "deep maths", they didnt just flick 3 and then end, you can see they were looking for 3 in the sequence of many MANY tosses. you are far more likely to find a mix of H and T than 3 in the row of 1 type. More missdirection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Even though it was obviously never going to happen, that guy was gutted there was no knife through his foot for a cool £500k. I noticed that.....he really wanted the 500k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Excuse me? I never agreed to a bet with you :confused: If there is no maths involved in the final prediction, Baj will get £20. No-one else. What a shocking lack of integrity. You don't still think this is a mathematical equation do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 (edited) Oh well,David Blaine is on after this. I remember well, laughing at him in a drunken state as he was in his box on the south bank. Now, thats magic/illusion/bollix. Edited 11 September, 2009 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 What a shocking lack of integrity. You don't still think this is a mathematical equation do you? Why? :confused: I told you earlier in the thread that the bet was first come, first serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Excuse me? I never agreed to a bet with you :confused: If there is no maths involved in the final prediction, Baj will get £20. No-one else. He's already robbed you for a fiver, so you only need to draw another 15 out of the hole in the wall tomorrow clarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I noticed that.....he really wanted the 500k... Too right, you ain't gonna lose the ability to walk. £500k is more than worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Please let there be more, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 1) The 'helpers' didn't see the maths behind their prediction. 2) They had then bought into the idea and saw statistically it had a chance. Therefore, it's a damned fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Why? :confused: I told you earlier in the thread that the bet was first come, first serve. We had a bona fide bet, remember. Please send £10 of what you owe me to the first witness who can substantiate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 /\ I witnessed it Rattlehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Thanks hamster. Come on clarky, pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I'll be amazed if he doesn't get sued for that. Baj, you'll need to PM me your address so I can send you the £20. Rattlehead, you can f*ck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 well that was an hour of my life ill never get back, still, at least I won £20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Anti-climax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 so, how did he do it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I would also like to take the same bet please. Sorry, first come first serve So go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I reckon he genuinely believed all this rubbish would result in something that works. No, he didn't. Then, when he realised after a few dry runs and a couple of positive results notwithstanding that it was just not repeatable, he brought in a few fake cameras and voila, no breach of contract with Ch4, here's your program. He just went straight for the conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 So it was camera trickery after all then. I am a wee bit disappointed as he did say that people at home would be able to replicate it. That sort of camera trickery is not really accesible to a normal Joe like us is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 so, how did he do it..? Apparently he fixed the machine (or didn't) but would never admit to it because he never did it. I doubt his cheeky grin will stand up when the lawyers come knocking though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I'll be amazed if he doesn't get sued for that. Baj, you'll need to PM me your address so I can send you the £20. Rattlehead, you can f*ck off. You have a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 well that was an hour of my life ill never get back, still, at least I won £20 Ditto, although hamster gets a tenner of my winnings. Cheers clarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 I dont think he's going to reveal exactly how he did it... The only real prediction tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Thanks hamster. Come on clarky, pay up. Read post #125. He clearly says first come, first serve. Sorry, with clarky on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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