Hatch Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I reckon he secretly filmed 14,000,000 different versions of the show then they just showed the relevant one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I reckon he secretly filmed 14,000,000 different versions of the show then they just showed the relevant one. Or he's just a really REALLY lucky ****er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I reckon he secretly filmed 14,000,000 different versions of the show then they just showed the relevant one. Lol. Ah but how did they get the right one up in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 i agree with Baj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Most disappointing thing I've seen. When the draws being made, the balls are out of shot. He's got some lacky with balls numbered 1-49 picking out the ones being drawed and arranging them on the stand out of shot. When Brown walks over to the balls they are perfectly arranged in numerical order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Most disappointing thing I've seen. When the draws being made, the balls are out of shot. He's got some lacky with balls numbered 1-49 picking out the ones being drawed and arranging them on the stand out of shot. When Brown walks over to the balls they are perfectly arranged in numerical order. No they weren't (trust me, having watched the footage about 2 dozen times, they werent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 so we're on for that £20 bet then, yeah? Im serious. Ill make it even better. If its a maths solution, if there is a mathematical equation that can repeatably predict the lottery numbers, I will pay you £200, if not, if its any other trick, you pay me the £20, deal? Just a little reminder of what saint_clark has agreed to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Just a little reminder of what saint_clark has agreed to... You have won £20 Baj if it was mathmatical it would be won every week and DB would be the first winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 did saint_clark agree to that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Jolly good. Hope you're a man of your word. Absolutely. Should be interesting to see him worm his way out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 saint_clark is not alone.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ooP6s7PmXk&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 saint_clark is not alone.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ooP6s7PmXk&feature=related formular? i think i got good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 formular? i think i got good idea? sheeeeeet. Best go and get the £200 ready for saint_clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDARMY79 Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Why did I get an infraction for saying he is gay? He is gay. Not many people know this. Mind Bender????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 He didn't predict the bonus ball number as he needed that couple of extra seconds to remember the results of his mathmatical equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Should be interesting to see him worm his way out of it There will be no worming. If you're right (which you probably are, i'm not too fussed) then £20 will be on it's way to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 There will be no worming. If you're right (which you probably are, i'm not too fussed) then £20 will be on it's way to you. Good man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Not that clever, I can always predict with 100% accuracy the numbers that will NOT come up, any I select Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Just a little reminder of what saint_clark has agreed to... Which was :smt102 Means I now have to check back, not happy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Ok, another 30 seconds of my life I'll never get back....... Originally Posted by Saint_clark It will not be something that simple, as they have dedicated a whole show to the explanation on friday. I bet £20 that it is a mathematical equation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 There will be no worming. If you're right (which you probably are, i'm not too fussed) then £20 will be on it's way to you. I would also like to take the same bet please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 There is no way any man could predict the lottery. Its IMPOSSIBLE, anyone who believes that he did is a total mong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I would also like to take the same bet please. Sorry, first come first serve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Sorry, first come first serve Wanna make it £400 v £40 instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Wanna make it £400 v £40 instead? Unfortunately not, just quit my job I can't afford to give away too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 There will be no worming. If you're right (which you probably are, i'm not too fussed) then £20 will be on it's way to you. And me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 saint_clark is not alone.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ooP6s7PmXk&feature=related I hope saint_clark is better at spelling and grammar:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I hope saint_clark is better at spelling and grammar:cool: for a moment i thought I had typed that stuff.Lol Unlucky Saint Clark you are going to be £20 light in the pocket. If I was you I d hedge the bet by putting another 20 on spurs being beaten by Pompey as that is a sure fire bet.HR will do anything for them to be buddies again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 for a moment i thought I had typed that stuff.Lol Unlucky Saint Clark you are going to be £20 light in the pocket. If I was you I d hedge the bet by putting another 20 on spurs being beaten by Pompey as that is a sure fire bet.HR will do anything for them to be buddies again. Doesn't matter to me, I used my formula to predict the lottery yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Doesn't matter to me, I used my formula to predict the lottery yesterday. So you are going to be £21 down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Unfortunately not, just quit my job I can't afford to give away too much. And then you say you used your "formula" to predict the lottery so by Saturday night you should be a millionaire and be able to afford to give us all £20 ! A fool and his money are soon parted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 A fool and his money are soon parted How's that PC of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Has it ever been anything different then? 07921548063 by the way? IT's good but it's wrong. That's a quid each you each owe me by the way. Now I know why Rich Branson was so keen to get his grubby hands on the lottery contract! I have heard people call the lottery a tax on the poor, I'm not saying that I agree, and I have a good friend who did win over a milliion quid a couple of years ago, but personally, I'd rather save the money and waste it on ESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 How's that PC of yours? Lol, shut up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 IT's good but it's wrong. That's a quid each you each owe me by the way. Now I know why Rich Branson was so keen to get his grubby hands on the lottery contract! I have heard people call the lottery a tax on the poor, I'm not saying that I agree, and I have a good friend who did win over a milliion quid a couple of years ago, but personally, I'd rather save the money and waste it on ESB. Well I stopped doing the lottery in 2005 when a friend of mine was sacked by Camelot after finding a major fault in their system. He eventually got a very nice pay off but on condition he did not reveal what the fault was. So I have no faith in it all never mind the odds are too bad to be true, you only have a 54/1 chance of having a winning ticket and mostly the wins will be £10 which is actually of course £9 since you don't get your stake back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I think it's done with two cameras, or two feeds to the same camera, somehow I'm amazed it took someone till post #102 to work it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Well I stopped doing the lottery in 2005 when a friend of mine was sacked by Camelot after finding a major fault in their system. He eventually got a very nice pay off but on condition he did not reveal what the fault was. So I have no faith in it all never mind the odds are too bad to be true, you only have a 54/1 chance of having a winning ticket and mostly the wins will be £10 which is actually of course £9 since you don't get your stake back. Am I the only one who has never played the lottery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Am I the only one who has never played the lottery? I had the first 4 numbers that came out once, I was papping it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I'm amazed it took someone till post #102 to work it out Did you mean Post 98 Greenridge? Baj stealing my thunder eh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 The process behind it all. He said he spent a YEAR of his life doing it, not hard to believe that he figured out an actual way of predicting it. lol. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Did you mean Post 98 Greenridge? Baj stealing my thunder eh.... Sorry fella didn't read the whole thread. I believe it's done by splitting the tv shot we were watching in 2 so that you see the real time view on the right with the live draw etc but the left hand side where his predicted balls were on show was actually a 'still' which enabled someone to swap the balls over in the time it took the draw to take place and for him to write the numbers down which is just a ploy to buy them a few seconds for the switch to take place. Just IMO of course...simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Next week I will predict the lottery numbers, well in advance of the draw taking place. I do not wish to be thrust into the limelight as I am a shy type, but at some point during the coming week, I will insert my prediction into one of my posts. Look out for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Sorry fella didn't read the whole thread. I believe it's done by splitting the tv shot we were watching in 2 so that you see the real time view on the right with the live draw etc but the left hand side where his predicted balls were on show was actually a 'still' which enabled someone to swap the balls over in the time it took the draw to take place and for him to write the numbers down which is just a ploy to buy them a few seconds for the switch to take place. Just IMO of course...simples Which is exactly what I said in my post... ...except it wasnt a still, it was recorded footage, you'd be able to spot a still easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 The second camera imo is only for playback purposes, he wants us to go down that route of thinking but it's a red herring, as is this post, or is it? Derren Brown is much cleverer than we are giving him credit for on here, most illusion is very simple when you practice it often enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Which is exactly what I said in my post... ...except it wasnt a still, it was recorded footage, you'd be able to spot a still easily. I use the word 'still' losely - I'm no multimedia expert lol. It was just like in the movies when they swap the cctv footage for a rolling footage of the empty room while the heist is taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Derren Brown is much cleverer than we are giving him credit for on here, most illusion is very simple when you practice it often enough. He can't be that clever , he can't even spell his own name properly. Everyone knows it should be with an A. As in Darren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Am I the only one who has never played the lottery? I imagine a few billion around the world never have TBH ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 I had the first 4 numbers that came out once, I was papping it... So did I ( the regular numbers I played) but had forgotten to do it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Considering DB likes to provide clues to how he does things, and having watched it back a few times now, good quotes are "Lottery numbers all up over the wall" "ive been a little bit sick" "ive done nothing illegal, ive done nothing illegal" "you might want to try the same thing TOO" (emphasis on too...2?) "This weeks glamorous assistant is O J Board" The slip up on reading the total jackpot im sure is also a clue Right.... I've watched the end bit in close detail.... they swap the balls. If anyone here has a recording of it, go forward to where he is writing out the numbers on the board, between 23 and 28 the camera freezes position, totally and solidly, it does not move a millimetre, despite being handheld and moving the whole time. So this is when the switch occurs. Secondly, go back to where he shows the balls in the holder at the start and explains the prediction is here but he cant show the numbers, you will notice that all the ball are perfectly in line height wise, now fast forward to a split second before he picks the balls up and turns around the little holder, 39 is clearly raised. The balls are switched, and they are switched when he writes out the numbers 23 and 28 on the card. Its camera trickery. I think it's done with two cameras, or two feeds to the same camera, somehow hscbaj@hotmail.com This person on youtube has deduced the same thing Exact Explanation: A handheld camera follows him into thes studio, as we all see, however once the show really kicks off it is placed on a mount and the movent of the camera is added as an effect afterwards, notice how the movement is never forward or back. With the camera now (effectively) in a static position, its a trivial task to run footage on the left hand side of the screen that was recorded earlier, by the same camera, in the same position. The freeze of movement we see is moement before the cameraman picks up the camera from its mount and returns to holding it in his hands/shoulder. Sadly, the whole thing is blown by a) the freeze being too long, proving the camera is on a mount and the movement is added as an effect and b) the different position of the balls. yep the end ball being slightly raised is what i noticed right away too. once watched again its obvious then this (the change) happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 Good work Baj and the fact there is another camera at a different angle, which is only used right at the start of the program. This i'm sure will provide the evidence tomorrow of how it was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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