Professor Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 The off-the-field appointments and the rumours about a DoF post, possibly sometime this season, make the club look very much like a top-tier club in waiting. An ex-Prem manager, very experienced coaches, a proper scouting network and possibly another big name as DoF still to come suggest that Leibherr and Cortese were quite serious when they talked about the five-year plan. Add those personnel to the infrastructure of a premiership stadium, first-class training facilities and a potential fan base of 30,000 and there is every reason to expect a rosie future. All that matters this year is not going down another level, and the new signings, plus returning players should be enough. I was very pessimistic when no signings were announced on the day the transfer window closed, but the subsequent news, in the squad and in the backroom team has changed my view. There is now a potential first 11 that does not have to rely on reserves who are not yet quite ready for the step up, or at least, not too many at once.
IamLeGod Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 Why would they lie about the "5 year-plan"? This is not a dig at you personally, but even for someone of the wealth of Markus Libherr, the moeny spent in purchasing the club and subsequently on the team and staff (it seems to be forgetten that he is a big name in himself and probably hasnt come cheap) will represent a significant outlay. Whatever ML's intentions are, it is in his interest for us to be successful, if we are just a billionaire's plaything he's not going to want to see us suffer more relegations costing him millions, or if he see's the clubs as an investment, we will be of significantly more value in the Prem (or at least on the brink of it). I think also, this club was in serious trouble, in terms of finance, boardroom and on the field matters. The rot of poor management and poor decisions over a number of years may not have been known to its full extent, it is probably only coming to the fore now. The new regime deserve plaudits for they way they have gone about everything they have done thus far, from the purchase of the club, the staff they have bought in, and they manner in which they have gone about it. This season was always going to be about consolidation, steadying the ship and building the foundations for a future which will hopefully see us move back up the leagues with the infastructure mentioned above. Posters on here are at times hysterical or delusional, it would appear many seem to think we will be a League One equivalent of Man City, but surely our beloved neighbours down the road show what happens when you try and buy success to quickly without the proper structures in place. Is that really what people want?
Wes Tender Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 I agree with both the first posts. The professionalism of the operation so far has been exemplary. ML and Cortese just get on with things quietly and with dignity, IMO not having put a foot wrong so far. Just when one thinks that the transfer window has slammed shut, leaving us a little short still, along comes the terrific news on Waigo. Just when it seems that the backroom staff had been sorted, along comes the additional welcome news about Wally Downes. When that seemed to be the end for now, along comes the rumour that it is intended to add a Director of football too. Looking at the calibre of the backroom staff, they have all had experience as managers at one time or another. Looking at the players, again, several have been captains of their teams. We are not just appointing ability, but also experience and leadership qualities. It all bodes very well.
70's Mike Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 WE all just need to be patient. strange when i first starting watching in the very early 60's the club had NEVER been in the top flight but Ted build slowly, as the city itself grew, and we got there. the parallels are there now although i not sure if the city is still growing but WE WILL get back within 5 years
Legod Third Coming Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 I do a bit of work with the MoD and they have this phrase 'sustainment' which I personally don't believe is a real word. But if it is, that's what we have to build - sustainment. Not a get back quick and then yo yo around the leagues approach, but an infrastructure and squad that is capable of mounting a challenge this year, next year and beyond. Yes, the players may change, but ideally the manager and coaching staff won't.
Thedelldays Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 everyone please be patient - please as long as we JUST SURVIVE it will be a great achievement..i mean, it matters not that we have an England U21, The leagues top scorer who cost a million quid, a polish international, a million pound keeper who is the best in the league, a million pound defender, a rival captain, players like jaidi and harding, top ten prem facilities, large revenue coming in from nig crowds, premiership proven manager, ex league 1 managers as back room staff... I mean, what else could we possibly expect other than JUST survival...
trousers Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 And to think the majority on here were saying a mere 6 months ago that nothing good would ever come out of going into administration. I bet my son's pocket money that in 5 years time we'll be better off than if we'd managed to avoid administration in April.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 as long as we JUST SURVIVE it will be a great achievement..i mean, it matters not that we have an England U21, The leagues top scorer who cost a million quid, a polish international, a million pound keeper who is the best in the league, a million pound defender, a rival captain, players like jaidi and harding, top ten prem facilities, large revenue coming in from nig crowds, premiership proven manager, ex league 1 managers as back room staff... I mean, what else could we possibly expect other than JUST survival... Delldays....we have AP (who I trust by the way) and ML (who I ****ing love) we also have other people (all of which are like family to me) what we dont have is a pre season.....be realistic PLEASE we will come good just be patient and trust. It will take years and years and years to clean out the evil times. 6 years and we can compete for CCC in 50 we can talk about the prem. ffs
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 And to think the majority on here were saying a mere 6 months ago that nothing good would ever come out of going into administration. I bet my son's pocket money that in 5 years time we'll be better off than if we'd managed to avoid administration in April. At the moment we are worse off. If we had folded we would have 0 points right now....as it stands we have -6. We should have folded.
70's Mike Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 Delldays....we have AP (who I trust by the way) and ML (who I ****ing love) we also have other people (all of which are like family to me) what we dont have is a pre season.....be realistic PLEASE we will come good just be patient and trust. It will take years and years and years to clean out the evil times. 6 years and we can compete for CCC in 50 we can talk about the prem. ffs if it is 50 years i might as well pack up now as i will be 105, i really believe we can be back in 5 years because this club is all about momentum once we start winning, the crowds go up , money rolls in, better players come in, we keep winning. we have done it before why not now, yeah there are some moaners , there always have been, only difference is now they moan on the net whereas it used to be in the pubs. one thing stays the same though a bit of success and they will alll want cup tickets etc
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 if it is 50 years i might as well pack up now as i will be 105, i really believe we can be back in 5 years because this club is all about momentum once we start winning, the crowds go up , money rolls in, better players come in, we keep winning. we have done it before why not now, yeah there are some moaners , there always have been, only difference is now they moan on the net whereas it used to be in the pubs. one thing stays the same though a bit of success and they will alll want cup tickets etc We got knocked out of the cup! The rest you're right thou
70's Mike Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 We got knocked out of the cup! The rest you're right thou fa cup Liverpool at home watch the 15000 missing return, with every excuse under the sun why they missed Colchester at home
saint lard Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 If only we could get a win in league one.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 fa cup Liverpool at home watch the 15000 missing return' date=' with every excuse under the sun why they missed Colchester at home[/quote'] Spot. On.
Ford Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 same as last season against ManU in Cup !!!
up and away Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 Why would they lie about the "5 year-plan"? This is not a dig at you personally, but even for someone of the wealth of Markus Libherr, the moeny spent in purchasing the club and subsequently on the team and staff (it seems to be forgetten that he is a big name in himself and probably hasnt come cheap) will represent a significant outlay. Whatever ML's intentions are, it is in his interest for us to be successful, if we are just a billionaire's plaything he's not going to want to see us suffer more relegations costing him millions, or if he see's the clubs as an investment, we will be of significantly more value in the Prem (or at least on the brink of it). I think also, this club was in serious trouble, in terms of finance, boardroom and on the field matters. The rot of poor management and poor decisions over a number of years may not have been known to its full extent, it is probably only coming to the fore now. The new regime deserve plaudits for they way they have gone about everything they have done thus far, from the purchase of the club, the staff they have bought in, and they manner in which they have gone about it. This season was always going to be about consolidation, steadying the ship and building the foundations for a future which will hopefully see us move back up the leagues with the infastructure mentioned above. Posters on here are at times hysterical or delusional, it would appear many seem to think we will be a League One equivalent of Man City, but surely our beloved neighbours down the road show what happens when you try and buy success to quickly without the proper structures in place. Is that really what people want? I believe the original post was underlining the 5 year plan, in no way denigrating the proposal. As for being in serious trouble, we were that close to not even being awarded a place in the Blue Square. But what we are seeing now, I really doubt will be good enough for the Premier, with big changes being required if we aspire that high. Take someone like Mick Macarthy and co, have done an excellent job to this point. But I would not hesitate in getting rid of them if I was serious about staying in the Premier and advancing. Liebherr may have a different attitude to life, but I am not so sure about Cortese who is pulling all the strings.
Doctoroncall Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 fa cup Liverpool at home watch the 15000 missing return' date=' with every excuse under the sun why they missed Colchester at home[/quote'] That's assuming we make it to the third round or beyond!
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 fa cup Liverpool at home watch the 15000 missing return' date=' with every excuse under the sun why they missed Colchester at home[/quote'] ....I wish I had had an excuse to miss colchester at home!!!!..... but by Tuesday the gloom of the frustration at not being able to defeat colchester has lifted somewhat, and I am looking forward to us turning Charlton over on Saturday to get our first win and inflict their first defeat!!!.... hows that for being positive!
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