Saints vs Colchester - Post Match Reaction

[Nexstar]

Paterson is awful! Honestly cannot see what Pardew see's in him.

 

He see's that he is classed as a striker, one of the only two we had in our squad today. Would have won 2-0 easily if Saga (and dare i say Papa) had been in his place.

[S-Clarke]

Paterson is awful! Honestly cannot see what Pardew see's in him.

 

He's got ability - but he's not the right player for us now, not quite ready IMO.

 

Would do well for him to have a loan away at a Conf. side, just so he can get some professional goals under his belt.

[lumuah]

How long is it going to be before Markus realises he has bought a pup and pulls out?

 

If I were in his shoes, the thought would have crossed my mind that I can write off the 20 mil or so that i've spent, and just close it down.

 

If we carry on like this, we will end up with

 

And for those people who keep saying "we'll be fine", i've heard that a couple of times before. And it wasn't. If we had started on 0 points, we would still be in the bottom three. Only the deluded would say we are not relegation candidates.

 

I thought that just before Mr Liebherr arrived we had reached rock bottom. Well, we haven't, and we're still falling like a rock.

[Toomer]

The honeymoon is well and truly over Pards and the players need to deliver and fast.

[70's Mike]

How long is it going to be before Markus realises he has bought a pup and pulls out?

 

If I were in his shoes, the thought would have crossed my mind that I can write off the 20 mil or so that i've spent, and just close it down.

 

If we carry on like this, we will end up with

 

And for those people who keep saying "we'll be fine", i've heard that a couple of times before. And it wasn't. If we had started on 0 points, we would still be in the bottom three. Only the deluded would say we are not relegation candidates.

 

I thought that just before Mr Liebherr arrived we had reached rock bottom. Well, we haven't, and we're still falling like a rock.

 

totally disagree AP realised he need to shore up the defence first, do not concede easy goals and you win games.

there are lots of points to be played for

have faith in "your" fellow fans the gates will not go below 10k and after living through the rise of this club in the 60's and the fall since 2003 i really believe that in 5 years we will be back in the premiership.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Glasgow Saint; "If we dont win today I will need to change my avatar"

 

Im waiting with bated breath;)

 

done!

 

Mr Grumpy seems more apt - Saints are **** and mods lock threads (I pay money to start) they also hand out infractions just because they can....

 

all in all a bad day/season so far.

 

Things can surely only get better (we were saying that after relegation from the prem thou)

[niceandfriendly]

Well that was diabolical. Probably the worst game of football we'll see, played by two terrible teams. Colchester were laughable (how they are near the top of the league is a joke) but we didn't even look like beating them.

 

We have no movement upfront (what so ever), we play the ball in the air 99 times out of 100, our crossing is wayward, we have no natural and talented wide players, our players show very little urgency and desire and we can't score. Those are the main problems I can think of.

 

Lambert doesn't look interested - probably due to the fact that all we do is lump it high in the air to him, but even so he looks distinctly average at the moment. Paterson, offside offside offside, the new Bradley Wright? Mellis clearly has potential but no final product or strength or anything useful really. James and Hammond weren't troubled in the middle but didn't produce anything either and Thompson I'm pretty sure isn't a professional footballer. Oh and I hope Mills was just having an off day with his so called crosses.

 

Christ did they even have a shot on target? They were woeful yet we never looked like winning the game apart from a few (almost) lucky own goal chances.

 

Morgan looked good when he came on, he actually tried to pass the ball on the floor which is something we didn't do all game. Pathetic tactics Pardew.

 

Yeah we were bad, very bad. This Papa guy needs to be a miracle worker, but if he's no good with his head then we're in trouble, because balls in the air is all the service he's going to get.

[Causer]

Absoloutely appaling no imagiantion no creativity no spark. Lambert was immobile and could not keep hold of the Ball and Patterson had a worse first touch than Perry our centre back!!!!!!!!! Midfiled seemed incapable of passing the ball to other players and the service from the fullbacks was diabolical. On that performance we will go down to League Two.

[scotty]

lmao, nice one

[Genk]

I guess the only positives we can take are a clean sheet, the fact that we have two new players coming into the team and that Mills is back with Holmes not too far away either

[scotty]

done!

 

Mr Grumpy seems more apt - Saints are **** and mods lock threads (I pay money to start) they also hand out infractions just because they can....

 

all in all a bad day/season so far.

 

Things can surely only get better (we were saying that after relegation from the prem thou)

 

see above

[Running Man]

Back from match.

 

Thought a few weeks ago that James and Thomson were a terrible right wing pairing so what do we do second half?

 

Has no-one told them that you need to run down the wing where there were no defenders before you cross? Crosses from near the half way line will be collected by the keeper every time.

 

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:smt021:smt021:smt021:smt021:smt021:smt021:smt021

 

I'm beginning to think that out team and manager don't learn by their mistakes. There is no point buying good strikers if you don't have wingers to provide.

[brianoneils slidingtackle]

inept, clueless, pointless.

[niceandfriendly]

inept, clueless, pointless.

 

Very accurate analysis.

[Running Man]

Anyone fancy a whip around to pay patterson not to turn up any more...

 

I'm up for it.., I've already moaned that it's f*cking obvious that Thomson and James would be better on the bench then the answer to our right wing problem in the second half. I would have thought that Dan Harding would offer a lot more presence up front than Patterson (just joking - I think :confused:).

[Rebel]

Mills Thomson Melis Paterson and James just aren't ready for first team football yet

 

Lambert looked terrible - like he couldn't be arsed

 

we lacked pace power and aggression upfront

 

Hammond and Trotman looked like a step forward

 

still need an attacking right back, a right winger and some pace upfront

[Hopkins]

No creativi

[Northam Girls]

I saw enough today to suggest we will soon start winning games.

 

Defence looked sound, central midfield needs to create more and get forward to support the forwards.

 

Lallana had a good game out wide and showed he can play there effectively. Mills looked good when he came on.

 

Paterson lacks confidence and needs to avoid getting caught offside. He is just not ready yet.

 

We had enough of the game but just could not break down their defence. Very frustrating but not as bad as many early comments on here from those who did not attend (not having a go at their absence just that they cannot get perspective from verbal or written commentary)

 

What a well balanced view for a change with which I agree. No histrionics just plain facts. Paterson had an off day, don't we all at times and unfortunately that caused the problem with only 2 out and out forwards to select. We had width today but no-one in the middle to convert the crosses.

 

Saga or Papa would have been ideal today, but without them there was still progress and it was great to see Fish back in the team.

 

It's coming together, slowly I admit but it is coming together.

[kpturner]

No creativi

 

Quite

[niceandfriendly]

What a well balanced view for a change with which I agree. No histrionics just plain facts. Paterson had an off day, don't we all at times and unfortunately that caused the problem with only 2 out and out forwards to select. We had width today but no-one in the middle to convert the crosses.

 

Saga or Papa would have been ideal today, but without them there was still progress and it was great to see Fish back in the team.

 

It's coming together, slowly I admit but it is coming together.

 

Let's not forget that Colchester were woeful. They had no intention of playing football, everytime they got the ball they hit it long - almost as much as we did. I agree that we never looked threatened at the back but that's not much to write home about. Colchester were/are shocking.

[RedAndWhite91]

Well that was diabolical. Probably the worst game of football we'll see, played by two terrible teams. Colchester were laughable (how they are near the top of the league is a joke) but we didn't even look like beating them.

 

We have no movement upfront (what so ever), we play the ball in the air 99 times out of 100, our crossing is wayward, we have no natural and talented wide players, our players show very little urgency and desire and we can't score. Those are the main problems I can think of.

 

Lambert doesn't look interested - probably due to the fact that all we do is lump it high in the air to him, but even so he looks distinctly average at the moment. Paterson, offside offside offside, the new Bradley Wright? Mellis clearly has potential but no final product or strength or anything useful really. James and Hammond weren't troubled in the middle but didn't produce anything either and Thompson I'm pretty sure isn't a professional footballer. Oh and I hope Mills was just having an off day with his so called crosses.

 

Christ did they even have a shot on target? They were woeful yet we never looked like winning the game apart from a few (almost) lucky own goal chances.

 

Morgan looked good when he came on, he actually tried to pass the ball on the floor which is something we didn't do all game. Pathetic tactics Pardew.

 

Yeah we were bad, very bad. This Papa guy needs to be a miracle worker, but if he's no good with his head then we're in trouble, because balls in the air is all the service he's going to get.

 

You obviously weren't at Swindon... That was a lot worse than today and it is that that makes me think we are improving. Granted, we didn't finish them off like we should when they got down to 10 men, and we didn't capitalise on our chances, but we did make chances, but we did lack firepower... Paterson was slow and unaware, getting caught offside on numerous occasions... Mellis was not up to it.

 

However. A clean sheet, and for a change, a solid defence of which I have no complaints. Hammond was excellent. And to those who said we lacked width, we did get wide, but unfortunately our crossing and general final ball was awful.

 

So my thoughts are that we are getting there... It's dissapointing not to get a result, we should have got a result, but we are getting there.

[kpturner]

Saga or Papa would have been ideal today

How can you say that when nobody has really seen Papa play. He might be utter dog shyte.

[niceandfriendly]

You obviously weren't at Swindon... That was a lot worse than today and it is that that makes me think we are improving. Granted, we didn't finish them off like we should when they got down to 10 men, and we didn't capitalise on our chances, but we did make chances, but we did lack firepower... Paterson was slow and unaware, getting caught offside on numerous occasions... Mellis was not up to it.

 

However. A clean sheet, and for a change, a solid defence of which I have no complaints. Hammond was excellent. And to those who said we lacked width, we did get wide, but unfortunately our crossing and general final ball was awful.

 

So my thoughts are that we are getting there... It's dissapointing not to get a result, we should have got a result, but we are getting there.

 

I was at Swindon. But that night one team turned up: Swindon. They actually played some nice football, today we watched two pathetic football teams lump the ball in the air.

 

Yes the defence was solid, but I think my Gran would have looked solid against Colchester today and she died 10 years ago.

[Saintandy666]

We didn't play terrible, but we really need to find a way to convert these draws into wins soon or we are in trouble. Colchester were time wasting so much, blatently playing for the draw for alot of that game.

[hoozonside10]

Is there someone else who can take corners? Lallana was hopeless today, ever corner was floated in and either picked out of the air by the keeper or headed away by a defender who had all the time in the world. Same thing every time.

[SuperMikey]

Awful game, we really should've finished Colchester off when they got a man sent off but we just weren't good enough.

 

Davis 6 - Solid, made some good saves. Could be quicker with his distribution though, and the long balls never worked.

Thomas 7 (MoM) - Looked good at RB. Good tackling, overlapped well and supported Mellis/Lallana/Thomson.

Harding 6 - Average. No real pace, did nothing outstanding, decent tackling but was caught out a few times by their No 7 (who was amazing I thought)

Perry 6 - Again, average. Decent tackles, did not much else.

Trotman 7 - Looked like a great prospect. Dominant in the air and made some great tackles. He's the type of defender we've been lacking in recent years since Claus/Killer.

Mellis 5 - Some nice touches and bits of skill, but otherwise ineffective.

Lallana 6 - NOT A WINGER. Pardew needs to realise that. Otherwise, okay. Only creative player in the team tbh.

Hammond 7 - Strong in the tackle, made some nice passes and supported the strikers. Great signing.

James 6 - Decent performance, did nothing special. Was worse when he switched to RB.

Patterson 4 - Just awful. Didn't win a challenge or header, looked lost. Saga instead, please.

Lambert 6 - Isolated, not his fault. Came back into the midfield and did some nice link-up play, but got into a goalscoring position.

 

Subs:

Thomson 6 - Ran at his defender which was great, that's what we needed. But came inside too often to get on the end of crosses and completely abandoned the right wing in the last 20 minutes of the game.

Schneiderlin 6 - Looked okay, good passing. Otherwise, nothing else to say.

Mills 6 - Again, ran at his markers but not that great. Looked quite pacy and could be good on the left, but i'd prefer to see Lee Holmes play instead when he's fit.

 

Their No7 (Ashley Vincent) was great I thought, a really tricky winger with pace and was quite a strong lad too, so he got past defenders. We need a player like this in the next transfer window if Papa is to be played as a striker please.

[AFKA]

Pards time at Charlton was completely different - he was pretty much strangled in what he could do, everyone was being ''laid'' off around him as they were cost cutting and his best players being sold (A. Reid).

 

Don't want to turn this into a Charlton debate, but do want to point out that yes a few of the better players were naturally sold, but he still had the bulk of a premiership squad, and given around £14m to replace those who had to go, a budget any other Championship club would have given their right arm for. We also had the 2nd highest wage bill in the Championship, yet still finished 13th and then bottom. He screwed it up hugely with us, and financially our club is still having to pay every week for players that will never even see our first team.

[Genk]

Mills Thomson Melis Paterson and James just aren't ready for first team football yet

 

Lambert looked terrible - like he couldn't be arsed

 

we lacked pace power and aggression upfront

 

Hammond and Trotman looked like a step forward

 

still need an attacking right back, a right winger and some pace upfront

 

To be fair Mills has just come back from injury, and I didn't think he played that bad.

 

James had a decent game for me, his crosses were by far the better ones.

 

Have to agree with the other three players though. Not good at all

[.comsaint]

How long is it going to be before Markus realises he has bought a pup and pulls out?

 

If I were in his shoes, the thought would have crossed my mind that I can write off the 20 mil or so that i've spent, and just close it down.

 

If we carry on like this, we will end up with

 

And for those people who keep saying "we'll be fine", i've heard that a couple of times before. And it wasn't. If we had started on 0 points, we would still be in the bottom three. Only the deluded would say we are not relegation candidates.

 

I thought that just before Mr Liebherr arrived we had reached rock bottom. Well, we haven't, and we're still falling like a rock.

 

Time. Time is the answer. Time is the one thing that will see our fortunes change for the better.

 

We are only in the first weekend of September. Pardew has had a short while now to take a good look at the squad he inherited - and has added some very good players in the positions we were lacking in. Murty [shame about the injury], Trotman, Harding, Hammond, Lambert & Papa. They are all very capable, very good players in this division - and probably a division above.

 

I also have no doubt that Pardew will look to 1 or 2 further additions over the coming week or two through the loan system.

 

And what of Pardew himself? His record at Reading was second-to-none. After his first year as gaffer there (appointed manager in 1999) - he turned them around from relegation candidates when he took over to losing the Div 2 play-off final to Walsall in 2000-01. The following season [2001-02] he took Reading straight up automatically into Div 1. Pardew's first season in the higher division was outstanding, as the club finished 4th and lost in the play-offs once again, this time to Wolves.

 

At West Ham [took over early 2003-04 season]- he took them to the play-off final in his first season there. They lost to Palace. The following season they started badly (ring any bells?) but he still took WHU into the Premier League that year by beating PNE in the play-offs. His first season in the Prem - he took the Hammers to an FA Cup final.

 

I know things went downhill from there - but which manager hasn't had a bad time in their career - for whatever reason/s? Charlton was a complete mess [and I'm sure he'd be the first to say so] but I don't know the financial/boardroom situation at The Valley during his time there that may have contributed.

 

Either way - I'm very happy & grateful that we've got Pardew at the club. We all need to remember that we are a L1 side when all is said & done. He's only been here a matter of a few short weeks & it WILL take more time yet to get the team settled, firing on all cylinders & gain some kind of understanding between them all. You need time to learn how your team-mates play - their game - strengths - weaknesses, etc - and it's not easy when we keep getting new additions to the team...which I'm not complaining about of course!

 

I honestly think that come November/early December - we will be an extremely good side in this division - very hard to beat - and will win far more games than we are currently losing or drawing. Infact - I wouldn't be atall surprised to see us go on a long winning streak & playing some bloody good football in the process!

 

But time. Time is the answer my fellow fans.

[um pahars]

And here's the scores on the doors for today (and before anyone moans, I'm thinking positively and reported rather gushingly on our performance last week against Brum).

 

A good start against a side content with a draw who really battened down the hatches when they had 10 players. A decent first half where we should have gone ahead, followed by a second half where we just did not have the nous to eek out a goal.

 

Some of the youngsters were terrible (so god knows who thought they could do it in the Championship) and we looked pretty lacklustre upfront.

 

Davis - 7 - not much to do, but looked as good as ever

 

Thomas - 7 - I wasn't sure he could fill in for Murty, but have to say he impressed me today, particularly the first half.

 

Perry - 7 - A good display, sometimes left with their centre forward when Trottman should have had him

 

Trottman - 7 - First time I've seen him, but impressed (see the bit above losing their centre forward).

 

Harding - 8 - Definitely like the look of him and think he has much to offer

 

Mellis - 5 - Didn't really offer us anything even in the first half where we had control

 

Hammond - 6 - Not really sure, let's leave it there

 

James - 5 - Did he do anything

 

Lallana - 7 - Maybe he's found his level, as this was another good game. However, I'm looking for gials from him and he does lack a cutting edge

 

Lambert - 7 - Feel a bit sorry for him as the midfield was poor and his strike partner was terrible, which brings me on to......

 

Paterson - 1 (ONE as the videprinter would say) - I'm sure I'll have to eat my words when he goes on to play for England, but he was absolutely diabolical. Did nothing.

 

SUBS:

 

Mills - 4 - Had a good run when he first came on, but that was it.

 

Thomson - 4 - Never gave us anything

 

Schneiderlin - 4 - Propaganda stuff as WGS would say. Some nice passes when under no pressure, but nothing clinical and nothing match changing.

 

 

 

For me the problems are upfront, so fingers crossed Papa and Saga can turn it on.

 

A very disappointing performance despite Colchester doing everything to break up the game.

[RedAndWhite91]

I was at Swindon. But that night one team turned up: Swindon. They actually played some nice football, today we watched two pathetic football teams lump the ball in the air.

 

Yes the defence was solid, but I think my Gran would have looked solid against Colchester today and she died 10 years ago.

 

Exactly. We played better this evening than we did againts Swindon. A solid defence is a start, now we need a final ball from our attack and we need to take chances.

 

In other news. The 17,000 crowd were generally noisy in the first half when we were playing the game in their half, but it quietened when the game looked as if it was heading for a 'bore draw'.

 

Bit dissapointed we sung 'when I was a little boy...' four times in the first 10 minutes... Where's the creativity!?!?

[hamster]

We weren't too bad against their set-play's today I thought, which is progresss surely. I ain't even had a drink yet and I'm starting to see a few +'s.

 

It may not have been nice to watch, we got way too excited at the sending off. It was a good day to have a bad day if you know what I mean.

 

It was there for the taking, the the ref and linesman on the Itchen side were poor. Even the chap who 'commentates' behind me got a few wrong, and he's usually very good.

[Bristol_Benji]

Poor. Unlike some on here though, I thought Lambert played well. He did some good flick-ons. Unfortunately though Paterson has the anticipation of a drunk driver, working his ipod, whilst texting. He also has worse finishing that a guy with premature ejaculation. He does make a lot of effort though, so i hope he improves.

 

Our crossing was woeful. Mills' final ball was awful and James had an off game on crossing - he is much better in the middle of the park. Lallana was ok, but why Pardew put him upfront i'll never know. I think i've only ever saw him shoot a decent shot once in all the games ive ever seen him. He can't head the ball though, so it would have more sense to put Gobern up front given how much we were intent on crossing it (to be honest though, i cant remember if Gobern was on the bench). Saying that, even if BFG were up front our crosses would have still missed him.

 

I also didnt like the amount the ball was in the air. I dont know if this is a Pardew thing but i dont remember us being like that that much last year. I hope this changes as it looks rubbish.

 

On a positive note, Thomas at right-back looked good, and Kelvin, as always played well, making some good catches. He seems to have really improved in this area over the past 2 years.

[RedAndWhite91]

I also thought we were too scared to shoot. Hammond was the only one not scared to have a go... There was too many "one touch too many's" if you get me.

[hamster]

Exactly. We played better this evening than we did againts Swindon. A solid defence is a start, now we need a final ball from our attack and we need to take chances.

 

In other news. The 17,000 crowd were generally noisy in the first half when we were playing the game in their half, but it quietened when the game looked as if it was heading for a 'bore draw'.

 

Bit dissapointed we sung 'when I was a little boy...' four times in the first 10 minutes... Where's the creativity!?!?

 

Never read a sensible answer as to why we always play the second half attacking the Chapel End. Anyone know why we do this? I think it should be changed, I really do.

[Running Man]

And here's the scores on the doors for today (and before anyone moans, I'm thinking positively and reported rather gushingly on our performance last week against Brum).

 

A good start against a side content with a draw who really battened down the hatches when they had 10 players. A decent first half where we should have gone ahead, followed by a second half where we just did not have the nous to eek out a goal.

 

Some of the youngsters were terrible (so god knows who thought they could do it in the Championship) and we looked pretty lacklustre upfront.

 

Davis - 7 - not much to do, but looked as good as ever

 

Thomas - 7 - I wasn't sure he could fill in for Murty, but have to say he impressed me today, particularly the first half.

 

Perry - 7 - A good display, sometimes left with their centre forward when Trottman should have had him

 

Trottman - 7 - First time I've seen him, but impressed (see the bit above losing their centre forward).

 

Harding - 8 - Definitely like the look of him and think he has much to offer

 

Mellis - 5 - Didn't really offer us anything even in the first half where we had control

 

Hammond - 6 - Not really sure, let's leave it there

 

James - 5 - Did he do anything

 

Lallana - 7 - Maybe he's found his level, as this was another good game. However, I'm looking for gials from him and he does lack a cutting edge

 

Lambert - 7 - Feel a bit sorry for him as the midfield was poor and his strike partner was terrible, which brings me on to......

 

Paterson - 1 (ONE as the videprinter would say) - I'm sure I'll have to eat my words when he goes on to play for England, but he was absolutely diabolical. Did nothing.

 

SUBS:

 

Mills - 4 - Had a good run when he first came on, but that was it.

 

Thomson - 4 - Never gave us anything

 

Schneiderlin - 4 - Propaganda stuff as WGS would say. Some nice passes when under no pressure, but nothing clinical and nothing match changing.

 

 

 

For me the problems are upfront, so fingers crossed Papa and Saga can turn it on.

 

A very disappointing performance despite Colchester doing everything to break up the game.

 

Pretty much agree with that. Hammond had a good match although he should have one of his digits chopped off every time he shoots outside the final third and wastes a good build up. Mellis was the opp side to me and came off at half time but I think he does a decent job and deserves a chance.

[RedAndWhite91]

Never read a sensible answer as to why we always play the second half attacking the Chapel End. Anyone know why we do this? I think it should be changed, I really do.

 

Is it something to do with one team winning the toss and choosing either kick off or what end to start from??? But yes, I do agree with you.

[hamster]

Is it something to do with one team winning the toss and choosing either kick off or what end to start from??? But yes, I do agree with you.

 

Someone MUST know the way it works and why we would choose to kick off rather than choose to ends.

[S-Clarke]

And here's the scores on the doors for today (and before anyone moans, I'm thinking positively and reported rather gushingly on our performance last week against Brum).

 

A good start against a side content with a draw who really battened down the hatches when they had 10 players. A decent first half where we should have gone ahead, followed by a second half where we just did not have the nous to eek out a goal.

 

Some of the youngsters were terrible (so god knows who thought they could do it in the Championship) and we looked pretty lacklustre upfront.

 

Davis - 7 - not much to do, but looked as good as ever

 

Thomas - 7 - I wasn't sure he could fill in for Murty, but have to say he impressed me today, particularly the first half.

 

Perry - 7 - A good display, sometimes left with their centre forward when Trottman should have had him

 

Trottman - 7 - First time I've seen him, but impressed (see the bit above losing their centre forward).

 

Harding - 8 - Definitely like the look of him and think he has much to offer

 

Mellis - 5 - Didn't really offer us anything even in the first half where we had control

 

Hammond - 6 - Not really sure, let's leave it there

 

James - 5 - Did he do anything

 

Lallana - 7 - Maybe he's found his level, as this was another good game. However, I'm looking for gials from him and he does lack a cutting edge

 

Lambert - 7 - Feel a bit sorry for him as the midfield was poor and his strike partner was terrible, which brings me on to......

 

Paterson - 1 (ONE as the videprinter would say) - I'm sure I'll have to eat my words when he goes on to play for England, but he was absolutely diabolical. Did nothing.

 

SUBS:

 

Mills - 4 - Had a good run when he first came on, but that was it.

 

Thomson - 4 - Never gave us anything

 

Schneiderlin - 4 - Propaganda stuff as WGS would say. Some nice passes when under no pressure, but nothing clinical and nothing match changing.

 

 

 

For me the problems are upfront, so fingers crossed Papa and Saga can turn it on.

 

A very disappointing performance despite Colchester doing everything to break up the game.

 

Great assessment Um. The attack was abysmal today and probably led to the constant hoofing as there was no other option. There was no movement at all....

[um pahars]

why we would choose to kick off rather than choose to ends.

 

Maybe there are all in to some spread betting lark on the first throw in, so we always choose to kick off

[Red&White]

Went to the game today not good , we have too many lightweights for this division.

Most of our players are pushed off the ball far too easily then moan to the ref expecting a free kick. Not impressed at the mo hopefully when we get a win ( ? ) it will boost confidence.

[aintforever]

Not good enough, Pardew needs to start earning his crust if he wants to keep his job IMO.

[um pahars]

Great assessment Um. The attack was abysmal today and probably led to the constant hoofing as there was no other option. There was no movement at all....

 

I should have probably said that for me the problems are going forward as the support and provision from midfield was poor, even before you got to the woeful Paterson.

[ooohTerryHurlock]

Same old predicatable Saints. Whenever we have a man sent off we go on to lose, When the opposing team have a man sent off, we don't win. Mentality is all wrong at the club, and this needs to be addressed asap otherwise we will be in a relegation battle again.

 

We are in one already!!! I hope they are all back in for extra training tomorrow at 07.00hrs!!! They need a right kick up the arsehole...

 

no urgency

no effort

no vision

no cohesion

no idea

no leadership

 

and most importantly NO ****ING WIDTH!

 

 

it needs sorting asap!

[Saint_clark]

There were no excuses for not winning today.

 

Positives;

We TRIED to play with width. When Mills came on he looked very good IMO.

Lallana was fantastic, anyone who questions his commitment really doesn't have a clue.

The defence looked extremely solid. Once Jaidi comes in and Murty is fit again, it will be exceptional. Pardew has done what I and many others always say you should do; he has built from the back.

The three CMs who played a part - Hammond, James and Schneiderlin - looked very sharp, and their passing was accurate for the majority of the game.

 

Negatives;

With regards to width, Lallana is not a winger, Thomson is useless and Mellis is too weak/inexperienced. Until we get decent wingers (it may well be Mills on the left and Waigo on the right), we will never be able to play well with width.

Paterson looked lost, he really should have scored.

We are wasting Lambert by having him play with his back to goal.

[Whitey Grandad]

Someone MUST know the way it works and why we would choose to kick off rather than choose to ends.

Whoever wins the toss has choice of ends only (and will kick-off the second half). It's a club choice and by convention visiting teams will go along with the home team's wishes. Normally the away team kicks towards its fans in the second half.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Give it time FFS, it isn't going to happen overnight.

 

Charlton seemed to have turned things around overnight?

[Block 5]

I thought today was an improvement.

We looked pretty tight at the back, even at set pieces, which have been our undoing for far too long.

When we used the width we looked threatening, but the hoofball just isn't working.

It may do if someone can build a good understanding with Lambert.

 

I thought AP's substitutions were astute today; Mills on for Mellis (who hadn't done much), Thomson for Patterson (who never looked like scoring) was a good move, with Lallana moving upfront, but by far the best sub was Morgan for Perry, with Lloyd dropping to RB, Thomas to CB and Schneiderlin in MF. Unfortunately MS didn't quite cut it..... the whole point of bringing him on was to add an attacking edge, but his first touch was to turn round and pass back into our defence. This set the tone for the rest of the game and he simply wasn't attacking enough.

Mills gave their RB some problems when he came on, but didn't manage to provide the killer ball into the box.

 

I think we will turn the corner when we start utilising the width of the pitch and getting down the wings with pace...... but of course for that to work you need a fast forward to get on the receiving end of the ball..... which is where Papa will be used (IMHO) because Lambert, Pogo Patterson and Saga have no pace.

 

Overall I am encouraged enough to go to Charlton next week rather than stay at home like far too many (regular) posters on this forum who seem to revel in their doom-mongering and nay-saying.

 

I agree with St Marco and Weston Saint that we are improving and wins are coming our way soon.

[Saint_clark]

Charlton seemed to have turned things around overnight?

 

From what, exactly? They weren't in admin.

[Joesaint]

We are in one already!!! I hope they are all back in for extra training tomorrow at 07.00hrs!!! They need a right kick up the arsehole...

 

no urgency

no effort

no vision

no cohesion

no idea

no leadership

 

and most importantly NO ****ING WIDTH!

 

 

it needs sorting asap!

 

I felt that there hs been alot of improvement mate, esp with width we just lacked the final touch. AP had alot of work to do and every time I see saints (at home) I see improvement.

 

Not sure if you agree mate the only thing I felt we lacked was the finishing and this is something else that I'm sure will be worked on, as well as the new players coming in.

 

It was really hard walking home today but if I were a neutral Id feel saints can still make the play-off with the larger squad, confidence and time.

 

UTS