stevegrant Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/administration/news/newsid=1097777.html Chelsea have been banned from signing anyone until 2011 after they were found guilty of inducement to breach a contract when they poached Gael Kakuta from Lens. Oops
Saint_clark Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 Quite funny, only thing that annoys me is that it's always English clubs that are used to make an example. Although - was the Juventus relegation a few years ago FIFA or the Italian FA?
Saint Martini Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 Italian FA. Besides that I don't think English clubs are being made an example of. Give me a similar example where the punishment was less severe. Sometimes players sign several contracts and get punished, in this case the responsibility lies entirely with Chelsea because they knew he had a legitimate contract.
saint_stevo Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 (edited) a swiss club had the same thing a while back dint they? think they appealed and can still sign players until the appeal is heard, expect chelsea to drag feet on this one in the hope the hearing comes after january.... Edited 4 September, 2009 by saint_stevo
chrisobee Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 Oh dear, how on earth will they cope! They'll be postponing games soon on the basis they only have 17 fit internationals !
saint_stevo Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 they will be fine. ish. Essien, Kalou, Mikkel and Drogba, anyone else be off to the A.C.O.N? Can still play 4 of ballack, lampard, Malouda, Joe Cole by then, Deco in the midfield, and Anelka and sturridge up top, recall a few of the fringe players, Di Santo, sinclair etc and they will be fine
Thedelldays Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 we used to swipe other teams best youngsters not so long ago....
saint_stevo Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 we used to swipe other teams best youngsters not so long ago.... Who? Mark Paul?
Thedelldays Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 Who? Mark Paul? walcott mcgoldrick blackstock what is funny about this.....is the fact this ban came out after the transfer window is shut....lol
Andy_Porter Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 Quite funny really. I reckon on appeal they will bring it down to just one window though which is a shame because that really won't affect Chelsea at all. No suprise that so many Chelsea players have signed contract extensions recently.
J Bizzle Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 walcott mcgoldrick blackstock what is funny about this.....is the fact this ban came out after the transfer window is shut....lol We paid a fee for Mcgoldrick and Blackstock. Walcott joined us from his youth team.
Marky-G Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 what is more worrying,I think is platini's unswerving hatred of anything english,just because bryan robson scored after 28 seconds in the world cup in 82
Um Bongo Posted 3 September, 2009 Posted 3 September, 2009 walcott mcgoldrick blackstock what is funny about this.....is the fact this ban came out after the transfer window is shut....lol They are banned until 2011. So next January and June-September.
stevegrant Posted 4 September, 2009 Author Posted 4 September, 2009 We paid a fee for Mcgoldrick and Blackstock. Walcott joined us from his youth team. We also paid a fee for Walcott.
Thedelldays Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 We also paid a fee for Walcott. about 2k or something wasnt it..?
the stain Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 about 2k or something wasnt it..? Something like that. Thing is, although they were pretty derisory sums and the whole thing leaves you feeling a bit dirty, the selling clubs agreed to the deal; it's not the same as just talking a player into walking away from his contract.
Thedelldays Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 Something like that. Thing is, although they were pretty derisory sums and the whole thing leaves you feeling a bit dirty, the selling clubs agreed to the deal; it's not the same as just talking a player into walking away from his contract. I know what you mean...the whole thing is an ass.. UEFA want to stop transfers for anyone under 18...seems pretty sensible...but then that would have stopped theo coming to us and progressing at that time... its a toughie
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 I know what you mean...the whole thing is an ass.. UEFA want to stop transfers for anyone under 18...seems pretty sensible...but then that would have stopped theo coming to us and progressing at that time... its a toughie I also think it will stifle some young talent, better clubs have better acadamies, coaches and facilities. Perhaps a Quota system on the amount of non-local youth players a club is allowed ?? But also a Quota of the amount of foreign players in each squad would help, but it would have to be a blanket worldwide thing.
Mase Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 Chelsea aren’t the first club to do this and they certainly won’t be the last. It’s a decisive decision by FIFA, they just need to be consistent. But I can’t see that happening… I wonder what English club will be made an example of next?
Saint_clark Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 I also think it will stifle some young talent, better clubs have better acadamies, coaches and facilities. Perhaps a Quota system on the amount of non-local youth players a club is allowed ?? But also a Quota of the amount of foreign players in each squad would help, but it would have to be a blanket worldwide thing. To be honest I think the best way would be to introduce a drafting system like they have for NFL in America. Obviously massive amounts of money would need to be poured into the colleges that the young players play for.
Saint_clark Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 Chelsea aren’t the first club to do this and they certainly won’t be the last. It’s a decisive decision by FIFA, they just need to be consistent. But I can’t see that happening… I wonder what English club will be made an example of next? Us, for breaching some rule or other to do with Jaidis work permit.
Saint Martini Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 Manu are the next victims for a similar offense.
Andy_Porter Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 I know what you mean...the whole thing is an ass.. UEFA want to stop transfers for anyone under 18...seems pretty sensible...but then that would have stopped theo coming to us and progressing at that time... its a toughie It doesn't seem to effect the Brazilian youngsters. Far too many players move too early in there careers and end up regressing at a big club before moving back down the leagues.
the stain Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 Good article in the Grauniad about the precedent for this decision. Chelsea may not have as much luck fighting it as initially thought... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/sep/04/chelsea-fifa-contracts-transfer-ban
saint_stevo Posted 4 September, 2009 Posted 4 September, 2009 a swiss club had the same thing a while back dint they? think they appealed and can still sign players until the appeal is heard, expect chelsea to drag feet on this one in the hope the hearing comes after january.... It seems they are doing exactly that, or considering it according to SSN
chrisobee Posted 5 September, 2009 Posted 5 September, 2009 Good article in the Grauniad about the precedent for this decision. Chelsea may not have as much luck fighting it as initially thought... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/sep/04/chelsea-fifa-contracts-transfer-ban Good!
stevegrant Posted 5 September, 2009 Author Posted 5 September, 2009 UEFA want to stop transfers for anyone under 18...seems pretty sensible...but then that would have stopped theo coming to us and progressing at that time... UEFA only want to stop international transfers for under-18s. They would find it very difficult to prevent domestic transfers, IMO.
jeff leopard Posted 8 September, 2009 Posted 8 September, 2009 if Man City get banned from buying players for 18 months i'll be laughing the whole time
the stain Posted 9 September, 2009 Posted 9 September, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/sep/09/chelsea-fifa-premier-league-academies More good stuff from David Conn on this issue. Very interesting to see some of the 'wastage' stats.
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