Nineteen Canteen Posted 12 September, 2009 Share Posted 12 September, 2009 So, my hunch last week that Matt (or his publishers) "embellished" the story to get publicity for the book wasn't wide of the mark then? Or he didn't check his facts very diligently, who knows but to the complacent / lazy tag do we add cynical and if it was just a way of beefing up the content of the book why do so by admitting an attempted fraud. Is this an auto-biograghy or a work of fiction based on real events like the Damned United. Hopefully it will remove the need for Police to probe any further but begs the question why run the risk of ruining your his major asset his public persona / character by inventing or pretending to be involved in betting scams. Doesn't make sense especially as the books are not exactly flying off the shelves. Nonetheless Trousers a good call but I still would like to know why he made it up beyond the obvious answer - sales. Things don't stack up Mr Conspiracy Theory and we both know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 12 September, 2009 Share Posted 12 September, 2009 Everyone was at it then. Remeber the West Ham pair (I think it was). It also went on in cricket - first wide etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 So are you saying you're bonkers or just a bit "special"? Considering the dinlo's multiple identities, then I reckon he could claim both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 It sounds like MLT took a puff from the illegal fixing pipe, but did not in hail! A hard rain is gonna fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Considering the dinlo's multiple identities, then I reckon he could claim both. Um Pahars, unlikely to be appearing on Mock the Week anytime soon. You're about as funny as undesirable middle-aged men who holiday on a regular basis in Thailand. Chill out Steve only another 48 weeks until your next experience. In the meantime if you continue to cast asperions on me just because you don't agree with my opinions then expect a little back. Time to play with the big boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Um Pahars, unlikely to be appearing on Mock the Week anytime soon. You're about as funny as undesirable middle-aged men who holiday on a regular basis in Thailand. Chill out Steve only another 48 weeks until your next experience. In the meantime if you continue to cast asperions on me just because you don't agree with my opinions then expect a little back. Time to play with the big boys.[/quote] Ha ha ha, thats about as threatening as being held up by a 8 stone camp mugger with a feather duster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Ha ha ha, thats about as threatening as being held up by a 8 stone camp mugger with a feather duster. Funny you should mention that - as I was walking across Hyde Park last night..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Ha ha ha, thats about as threatening as being held up by a 8 stone camp mugger with a feather duster. And what was I saying earlier about the unexpected joys of people quoting our raving lunatic/resident troll. It's for gems like these that I can forgive people for by-passing the ignore function:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirra Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Man walks into Soton bookies. "What odds for Saints to get a penalty against Notts Forest tomorrow and miss it" Bookie: "Saints ? Matt Le Tiss takes their penalties. He NEVER misses. 50-1" Man: "Here's a hundred"................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Um Pahars, unlikely to be appearing on Mock the Week anytime soon. You're about as funny as undesirable middle-aged men who holiday on a regular basis in Thailand. Chill out Steve only another 48 weeks until your next experience. In the meantime if you continue to cast asperions on me just because you don't agree with my opinions then expect a little back. Time to play with the big boys.[/quote] Ha ha ha, thats about as threatening as being held up by a 8 stone camp mugger with a feather duster. It wasn't a threat and only the ignorant would have seen it that way, more an invitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Time to play with the big boys. Could you give us clue as to how many personalities might turn up as part of the big boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Could you give us clue as to how many personalities might turn up as part of the big boys? I can be whoever you want me to be isn't that the attraction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 I can be whoever you want me to be isn't that the attraction? No that certainly isn't the attraction. I went to see Quadrophienia on friday night ................... you should go and see it. I recommend watching the film, before the play, but very entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 How does a non story get to 9 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 How does a non story get to 9 pages? With some gratuitous 19C baiting laced with a large dose of libellous comments because some people are unable to build their own defence. Is it a non-story though Trousers? Its just a saga with a new plot - why did professional football player make up stories in his book about a betting scam he was involved in? Was his life that boring that he needed to spice it up with lies? Are you expecting anytime soon for MLT to come out and say my publisher told me to do it or Graham Hiley made a load of stuff up because he got bored? Aaah, poor Matty and did you read it before signing it off or was that to much like 'hard work'? (To coin a quote of his ) It's a 'Tale of the Unexpected' if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 With some gratuitous 19C baiting laced with a large dose of libellous comments because some people are unable to build their own defence. Is it a non-story though Trousers? Its just a saga with a new plot - why did professional football player make up stories in his book about a betting scam he was involved in? Was his life that boring that he needed to spice it up with lies? Are you expecting anytime soon for MLT to come out and say my publisher told me to do it or Graham Hiley made a load of stuff up because he got bored? Aaah, poor Matty and did you read it before signing it off or was that to much like 'hard work'? (To coin a quote of his ) It's a 'Tale of the Unexpected' if nothing else. I get the feeling you are a liitle dissapointed MLT looks like he is off the hook? I'm still very concerned that i went to the theatre and ended up thinking of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 I get the feeling you are a liitle dissapointed MLT looks like he is off the hook? I'm still very concerned that i went to the theatre and ended up thinking of you. Disappointed MLT feels it is not necessary to explain himself to his adoring public just as he felt it was not necessary to give us an explanation into his decisions with regard to Pinnacle and why he supported the bid to the last minute and to the detriment of the start of the Swiss initiated rebuild . His responses so far could have been written by you and me based on our own limited knowledge and MLT has expressed his displeasure at Lowe for not owning up to his role in the demise of SFC, a view I agree with but one that works both ways and so MLT has still to explain his actions fully IMO and this is just another unanswered question about a strange confession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 I get the feeling you are a liitle dissapointed MLT looks like he is off the hook? I'm still very concerned that i went to the theatre and ended up thinking of you. I'm not so sure about that first bit... He may be off the hook legally and with the FA as it is now said that the game wasn't covered/available for such actions..... But if it could not have happened, then why oh why did he put it into the book? That may have far more ramifications for him in the future than the fact he may have bent a football rule, instead of making a few extra quid (who if they could wouldn't try and beat a system?) suddenly he needs to explain a "tall tale". Personally I don't give a damn about it, and it doesn't affect his standing as a legend for us in any way, but in oh so PC Corporate Britain these days, he may well have dealt himself a bad long term blow to his wallet in terms of future employment/income opportunities which IS stupid. Like I said before - Matt you TWERP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Is it a non-story though Trousers? Its just a saga with a new plot - why did a professional troll go out of his way to wind people up? Was his life that boring that he needed to seek attention on an internet message board? Did you see what i did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 (edited) It wasn't a threat and only the ignorant would have seen it that way, more an invitation. Invitation is just an dysphemism, you act as though you have a vast arsenal of verbal weapons awaiting anyone who dares to 'take you on', but its plain for all to see you are just a very average billy no-mates bully wannabe. Edited 14 September, 2009 by Fan The Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Invitation is just an dysphemism, you act as though you have a vast arsenal of verbal weapons awaiting anyone who dares to 'take you on', but its plain for all to see you are just a very average billy no-mates bully wannabe. Oh the irony - both the missed and the delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 Did you see what i did there? I did indeed see what you did there you avoided the question as normal by trying to undermine the poster's credibility. Keep up the good work as it is your's and indeed MLT's reputation that is suffering without a sound defence on which to pin your non-existent counter argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 I think it is called 'artistic license'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfnPanad Posted 15 September, 2009 Share Posted 15 September, 2009 Doesn't make any difference to me - can't wait to get the book (put off buying it myself as I have a birthday soon!) and the man will always be a hero to me. As a lad he always made watching the Saints worthwhile. You never knew when he'd do something the other 21 players just couldn't and even if we lost I went away talking about THAT pass, THAT shot. I re-watched my "Taking Le Tiss" DVD last night and I recommend anyone who has anything less than total respect for him as a Saints legend do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Any news if the police are taking the matter further? They were planning on meet the FA and then we had the news that the game wasn't live and so the betting scam with the spread firms could not have occured. So where are we now? Are the police pursuing the issue? Did MLT just quote the wrong game by mistake? Did he deliberately invent the story to beef up book sales? Did he make up anymore stories and if so does the book need to be reclassified in the fiction section? Has MLT given a satisfactory explanation to the affair who do we expect some well rehearsed 'straight bat' response as per the answers he has given so far with regard to Pinnacle. Finally, do we know the validity of those 40 pages of well-wisher emails and can we name any other books about the greatest stars living or dead who included 40 pages of ego massage from the general public under the premise of wanting 'to give them a voice'? All in all a bizarre few months for MLT and to top it all his book has fallen out of the top 20 of the book sellers hot bed of sales - the hard back non fiction chart as at 12/09/09. Suffice to say it does not figure anywhere in the overall bestsellers charts. Another serious lack of misjudgement to boost sales of a dull book or a simple error lying about helping to execute a betting scam? In any event I am surprised it's gone quiet and trust that MLT isn't planning on laying low until it all goes away - he owes Saints fans more than that. So please let share if you have any recent news or if you agree or disagree that MLT owes us an explanation if his book ia a work of fiction or non-fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Any news if the police are taking the matter further? They were planning on meet the FA and then we had the news that the game wasn't live and so the betting scam with the spread firms could not have occured. So where are we now? Are the police pursuing the issue? Did MLT just quote the wrong game by mistake? Did he deliberately invent the story to beef up book sales? Did he make up anymore stories and if so does the book need to be reclassified in the fiction section? Has MLT given a satisfactory explanation to the affair who do we expect some well rehearsed 'straight bat' response as per the answers he has given so far with regard to Pinnacle. Finally, do we know the validity of those 40 pages of well-wisher emails and can we name any other books about the greatest stars living or dead who included 40 pages of ego massage from the general public under the premise of wanting 'to give them a voice'? All in all a bizarre few months for MLT and to top it all his book has fallen out of the top 20 of the book sellers hot bed of sales - the hard back non fiction chart as at 12/09/09. Suffice to say it does not figure anywhere in the overall bestsellers charts. Another serious lack of misjudgement to boost sales of a dull book or a simple error lying about helping to execute a betting scam? In any event I am surprised it's gone quiet and trust that MLT isn't planning on laying low until it all goes away - he owes Saints fans more than that. So please let share if you have any recent news or if you agree or disagree that MLT owes us an explanation if his book ia a work of fiction or non-fiction. disagree who cares except for ruperts love child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Just read his "explanation" re Pinnacle. Not sure he was telling us everything. He's either in denial or chosing to wallpaper over cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Just read his "explanation" re Pinnacle. Not sure he was telling us everything. He's either in denial or chosing to wallpaper over cracks. His explantion to questions on Pinnacle in his recent radio interviews could have benn written by anyone of us and he was fortunate not to face a more inquisitive and knowledgeable interviewer as his answers were a statement of events we already knew but no explanation as to why decisions were made and the bid allowed to run well past its respectability date. Perhaps, the most telling response from MLT was in the Mayo interview when he gave a very audible sigh at the mention of Pinnacle and Mayo had to check it was ok to discuss - not that they did as Mayo simply accepted his paper thin response. The betting scam is another can of worms altogether and based on recent twists, is this book a work of fact or fiction and is MLT's strategy to lay low until the dust settles? If so, not good enough and we deserve an explanation minus the paste and scissors this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 disagree who cares except for ruperts love child I care so I guess that's two of us, whoever Rupert's love child is? Do you know he has one for a fact? Misleading at best if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 I care so I guess that's two of us, whoever Rupert's love child is? Do you know he has one for a fact? Misleading at best if you don't. No, relax, it's not you. Mike's talking about Sundance Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 No, relax, it's not you. Mike's talking about Sundance Beast. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Who? Sundance Beast ??? He was a real nutter. Its a good job you didn't know him. He was Rupert's love child. Flashman at the Charge ?? The rumour was that he slept with Rupert. It was only a rumour but you know what they say ... no smoke without fire. The Fourth Bear .... he was a real gent. As nutty as a fruitcake but a true gent. Its a pity you didn't get to know them. They had a lot in common with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Sundance Beast ??? He was a real nutter. Its a good job you didn't know him. He was Rupert's love child. Flashman at the Charge ?? The rumour was that he slept with Rupert. It was only a rumour but you know what they say ... no smoke without fire. The Fourth Bear .... he was a real gent. As nutty as a fruitcake but a true gent. Its a pity you didn't get to know them. They had a lot in common with you. :smt023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Any news if the police are taking the matter further? They were planning on meet the FA and then we had the news that the game wasn't live and so the betting scam with the spread firms could not have occured. So where are we now? Are the police pursuing the issue? Did MLT just quote the wrong game by mistake? Did he deliberately invent the story to beef up book sales? Did he make up anymore stories and if so does the book need to be reclassified in the fiction section? Has MLT given a satisfactory explanation to the affair who do we expect some well rehearsed 'straight bat' response as per the answers he has given so far with regard to Pinnacle. Finally, do we know the validity of those 40 pages of well-wisher emails and can we name any other books about the greatest stars living or dead who included 40 pages of ego massage from the general public under the premise of wanting 'to give them a voice'? All in all a bizarre few months for MLT and to top it all his book has fallen out of the top 20 of the book sellers hot bed of sales - the hard back non fiction chart as at 12/09/09. Suffice to say it does not figure anywhere in the overall bestsellers charts. Another serious lack of misjudgement to boost sales of a dull book or a simple error lying about helping to execute a betting scam? In any event I am surprised it's gone quiet and trust that MLT isn't planning on laying low until it all goes away - he owes Saints fans more than that. So please let share if you have any recent news or if you agree or disagree that MLT owes us an explanation if his book ia a work of fiction or non-fiction. I've just got in and have drunk lots of beer, nineteen canteen you are without doubt the biggest sraehoole that posts on here. i''ve onlt scar read your post but its the same useual crap, get a life your patheitic mate. grow up you saf little man. goddnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 I've just got in and have drunk lots of beer, nineteen canteen you are without doubt the biggest sraehoole that posts on here. i''ve onlt scar read your post but its the same useual crap, get a life your patheitic mate. grow up you saf little man. goddnight. I'll let my pathetic mate know in the morning. Did you say you had a skinful of beer - can't say it noticed. Sleep well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Interesting. MLT's book is on sale at Heathrow in T5, so it isn't just a local special. Had a bog display and picture as well, and was on special offer at 12.99 Tough call but afraid Dan Brown won, better cure for jet lag here in Florida, youch 15 hours time difference since Sunday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 18 September, 2009 Share Posted 18 September, 2009 Interesting. MLT's book is on sale at Heathrow in T5, so it isn't just a local special. Had a bog display and picture as well, and was on special offer at 12.99 Tough call but afraid Dan Brown won, better cure for jet lag here in Florida, youch 15 hours time difference since Sunday.... On sale in P*mpey too? Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishSaint Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 This may have been talked about already on here and apologies if it has, but has MLT been dropped for Soccer Saturday for the time being? He hasn't been on it since this betting stuff came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 Who gives a flying f*ck about matty failing to whack a ball out of play. Now if we were talking about roy keanes admission of assault in his crappy book, "Oi went in haard, oi tink de baall was dere somewhair" we'd be in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 I've just got in and have drunk lots of beer, nineteen canteen you are without doubt the biggest sraehoole that posts on here. i''ve onlt scar read your post but its the same useual crap, get a life your patheitic mate. grow up you saf little man. goddnight. Oh the irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 I've just got in and have drunk lots of beer, nineteen canteen you are without doubt the biggest sraehoole that posts on here. i''ve onlt scar read your post but its the same useual crap, get a life your patheitic mate. grow up you saf little man. goddnight. No, really, I would never have guessed. This is the most slurred post I have ever seen here..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversaint Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 Has Matty been given the boot by SkySports? Just noticed he's not on Soccer Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 Has Matty been given the boot by SkySports? Just noticed he's not on Soccer Saturday. He was not on last week either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 Who gives a flying f*ck about matty failing to whack a ball out of play. Now if we were talking about roy keanes admission of assault in his crappy book, "Oi went in haard, oi tink de baall was dere somewhair" we'd be in business. Allegedly his current employers may have an issue with it assuming he is not ill or is allowed to take two Saturdays off during the season. Of course if MLT or his representatives made an official and detailed statement explaining his actions then all the speculation could be buried. Perhaps he is still happy to carry on taking le tiss out of all of us. His silence IMO is deafening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 I've just got in and have drunk lots of beer, nineteen canteen you are without doubt the biggest sraehoole that posts on here. i''ve onlt scar read your post but its the same useual crap, get a life your patheitic mate. grow up you saf little man. goddnight. Dune are you up yet and eaten the rest of that kebab for breakfast or is your Mum making you wash your bedding again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 hmmmm dont like that hes not on SSN..worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 hmmmm dont like that hes not on SSN..worrying. Who for? MLT has to reap what he sow's just like the rest of us. IMO what ever the outcome he stretched his 'easy going and hugely popular personality' to a point that things become less easy to forgive and forget. In short he thought he was above the normal rules without a thought to what people may actually think. Poor poor judgement but that is just my opinion but some frank answers and an apology would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 Who for? MLT has to reap what he sow's just like the rest of us. IMO what ever the outcome he stretched his 'easy going and hugely popular personality' to a point that things become less easy to forgive and forget. In short he thought he was above the normal rules without a thought to what people may actually think. Poor poor judgement but that is just my opinion but some frank answers and an apology would be a start.# Im not ganna have a go at you like everyone else NC but you really are going over the top on your MLT betting reaction, imo. I'd have done the same in his posistion, the 90's were a different time (this is OBVIOUS if you read his book). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 Who for? MLT has to reap what he sow's just like the rest of us. IMO what ever the outcome he stretched his 'easy going and hugely popular personality' to a point that things become less easy to forgive and forget. In short he thought he was above the normal rules without a thought to what people may actually think. Poor poor judgement but that is just my opinion but some frank answers and an apology would be a start. ****ing Troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 19 September, 2009 Share Posted 19 September, 2009 # Im not ganna have a go at you like everyone else NC but you really are going over the top on your MLT betting reaction, imo. I'd have done the same in his posistion, the 90's were a different time (this is OBVIOUS if you read his book). Jonny but hasn't it been proven that the game in question was not televised live and so the spread firms would not have offered that bet as they only did it at the time on live televised games. So why lie about a betting scam? To ramp up sales? Failed IMO. To make the book more 'interesting'? Failed IMO. To play up the whole Taking Le Tiss' angle? Probably achieved but not as intended IMO. I'm as over the top as MLT has gone to ground about the whole affair and I think a frank explanation and apology in either event truth or lie is required. An auto-biography is not supposed to be a work of fiction whereas events can be embellished with the mists of time this you must admit is some embellishment if not true as alleged by the fact the game was not live on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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