St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Not going to let it bother me. The Positive Thinking Bully Brigade have a go at the beginning of each season. They all slip into the shadows as the season unfolds... Errr, no I don't. But hey, let's all think negatively and start cr4p threads just so we can all have a good whine. Won't that be productive and make us happy.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Labels is that all you've got? Seriously tho whats the point? The point of defending myself against abuse (obvious, I thought) or The point of this thread ? I thought I made that clear too
saint_stevo Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 btw, what is a binary opposition? When you oppose something using 1's and 0's?
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Doesnt quite apply to a football team we have no control over tho eh NAIL. ON. HEAD. So we're complaining and *****ing and whining...why?! If you have no control over it, what is getting all depressed and p1ssed off going to achieve? Exactly. Nothing.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Errr, no I don't. But hey, let's all think negatively and start cr4p threads just so we can all have a good whine. Won't that be productive and make us happy. Man, you have some issues....
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 TBH I'd be ****ing negative too if I was half of the people on here.
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 The point of defending myself against abuse (obvious, I thought) or The point of this thread ? I thought I made that clear too You haven't got abuse. You've been told you're being negative and that this thread is pointless. Then you have chosen to abuse people back.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 You haven't got abuse. You've been told you're being negative and that this thread is pointless. Then you have chosen to abuse people back. Missed some of the posts through the intervention of your Positivity Filter, have you ???
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Man, you have some issues.... Err, no, you have issues, you sick, negative, pathetic little man. I'm perfectly sane, and don't get pleasure out of being miserable. Your family must be so unhappy having you at the helm, geez....
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Not going to let it bother me. The Positive Thinking Bully Brigade have a go at the beginning of each season. They all slip into the shadows as the season unfolds... Like you did in one week? Did you not post after the Birmingham game you could go back to Austria knowing we were going in the right direction? We let a goal in injury time and all thats changed? Do you want the positive people to slip into the shadows? seems likely or if we manage to win Saturday will that change again?
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Err, no, you have issues, you sick, negative, pathetic little man. I'm perfectly sane, and don't get pleasure out of being miserable. Your family must be so unhappy having you at the helm, geez.... Calm down and reach for your medication, FFS. If you cant handle reading people being less positive than you, avoid certain threads.
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 didnt go to swindon away then We have played 3 games since then and you have not seen any improvement? Not looking very hard are you.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Like you did in one week? Did you not post after the Birmingham game you could go back to Austria knowing we were going in the right direction? We let a goal in injury time and all thats changed? Do you want the positive people to slip into the shadows? seems likely or if we manage to win Saturday will that change again? Overall, I am still optimistic, but there is still a major issue facing the team - their mental toughness, and it will do serious damage if not addressed.
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Calm down and reach for your medication, FFS. If you cant handle reading people being less positive than you, avoid certain threads. My medication?! If you're not on anti-depressants then I suggest you go to the doctors. You're a bloody lunatic!!
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 We have played 3 games since then and you have not seen any improvement? Not looking very hard are you. And its achieved what, exactly ?
Wes Tender Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I see no particular reason to jump down Alpine's throat for posting a valid subject for debate. He is perfectly entitled to speculate as to whether the mindset of some players in the squad is 100% focussed on playing to the best of their ability, or whether they would rather be elsewhere. I agree that it is possible that because of what they have been told by their International managers, both Schneiderlin and Saga might be inclined to believe that they ought to have moved elsewhere. Unless they are loaned out to higher league teams though, they might well feel that they are here until January, so ought to buckle down and put themselves in the shop window on the back of some outstanding performances. I think that Lallana might have wanted out when other team mates and friends like Surman left for the Premiership and it might have been tempting for the glory and higher pay. But he has in the past few years witnessed other contemporaries being sold to Premiership clubs, only to warm the bench or play in the reserves. Perhaps he feels that he might be back in the Premiership within 4 years or so and develop better as a player via this route, or at least improve as a player to be sold next year or the year after. There might well be one or two of the players in the squad who could feel that their chances under Lowe and the double Dutch nonentities was better than it is now under ML and Pardew. Because of some astute quality signings, some have moved down the pecking order. But if they are proper professionals, they will either fight to gain a place in the 1st team, or move on, or out on loan if they feel hard done by. The only player who isn't going to make it, even if fit to play, but who probably feels quite happy to pick up a pay cheque whether he plays or not, is Pulis. What exactly do we do about him? Perhaps our resident expert Bizzle can suggest a solution.
Gingeletiss Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Calm down and reach for your medication, FFS. If you cant handle reading people being less positive than you, avoid certain threads.[/quote] That is imposible.......as you and you ilk, post your negative crap on every thread.
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 "List the players still at SFC with suspect temperament/commitment" alpine_saint List all the fans who need to hang themselves from the nearest tree.... alpine_saint
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Calm down and reach for your medication, FFS. If you cant handle reading people being less positive than you, avoid certain threads.[/quote] That is imposible.......as you and you ilk, post your negative crap on every thread. Me and my ilk ? what as in those who dont agree with you ? :rolleyes: Btw, of the 30-odd threads on the first page, I have posted in 6. Plenty of others for you to spread your message of universal peace and happy-clappiness on. The reaction of certain people on here has been nothing short of hysterical...
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 "List the players still at SFC with suspect temperament/commitment" alpine_saint List all the fans who need to hang themselves from the nearest tree.... alpine_saint Wow, you really have blown a gasket, havent you ??
emerson massey Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Dont think its a bad thread, i think there are a few issues with players not being fully comitted, however i understand why they may not be. Things haven't been great and for them it is a Job, they are not supporters (mostly not anyway) like we are. Just so you know (and before i get labelled as a 'negative'), i am a positive person, but that does not mean i cannot look and understand negative aspects. If something is posted on a message board by someone i dont even know (or care about - nothing personal) that i dont like the look of, i will ignore it. Especially if it causes me to get as wound up as some people on here. There are more important things in life ffs All in my very humble opinion of course
Wiltshire Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I think we should all have a group hug. Where is the togetherness? We are all Saints fans here. Come on people! (obviously I am excluding St Will because he pretends to be a professional golfer when he has admitted to playing mini golf! Alpine is also excluded as he is a miserable sod. Dibden Purlieu Saint is also excluded because he is tory scum)
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Answer this Alpine........ If supporting Southampton really brings you so much despair, as it obviously does, why don't you find something more fun to do? Being a Saints fan doesn't seem to bring you any happiness whatsoever, and there really isn't any point in doing something you don't enjoy (apart from work and pay taxes), so why don't you do something different? It obviously doesn't give you any joy, being a Saints fan, as all you do is pick negatives out of everything that happens......don't waste your life away. Spend some time with your family and concentrate on making them happy. Go out, and find a new hobby. Anything. What is the point in coming on here and spouting nonsense, just to have a whinge? There are so many other things you could do. And you would **** off far less people.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Answer this Alpine........ If supporting Southampton really brings you so much despair, as it obviously does, why don't you find something more fun to do? Being a Saints fan doesn't seem to bring you any happiness whatsoever, and there really isn't any point in doing something you don't enjoy (apart from work and pay taxes), so why don't you do something different? It obviously doesn't give you any joy, being a Saints fan, as all you do is pick negatives out of everything that happens......don't waste your life away. Spend some time with your family and concentrate on making them happy. Go out, and find a new hobby. Anything. What is the point in coming on here and spouting nonsense, just to have a whinge? There are so many other things you could do. And you would **** off far less people. I dont consider it to be nonsense, and some other contributors also dont, it appears. In addition, how do you know it brings me only despair and no joy ? I wrote on here at length about how I enjoyed the Brentford and Brum games, so stop talking out of your rectal orifice. I find your arrogance at telling me what I should do with my life utterly astounding.
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Answer this Alpine........ If supporting Southampton really brings you so much despair, as it obviously does, why don't you find something more fun to do? Being a Saints fan doesn't seem to bring you any happiness whatsoever, and there really isn't any point in doing something you don't enjoy (apart from work and pay taxes), so why don't you do something different? It obviously doesn't give you any joy, being a Saints fan, as all you do is pick negatives out of everything that happens......don't waste your life away. Spend some time with your family and concentrate on making them happy. Go out, and find a new hobby. Anything. What is the point in coming on here and spouting nonsense, just to have a whinge? There are so many other things you could do. And you would **** off far less people. tbf apline has been pretty positive towards our prospects - read back through some of his posts lately. Not really sure this can be classed as a negative thread either, a valid one in all honesty.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I think we should all have a group hug. Where is the togetherness? We are all Saints fans here. Come on people! (obviously I am excluding St Will because he pretends to be a professional golfer when he has admitted to playing mini golf! Alpine is also excluded as he is a miserable sod. Dibden Purlieu Saint is also excluded because he is tory scum) Hahaha, love it
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I dont consider it to be nonsense, and some other contributors also dont, it appears. In addition, how do you know it brings me only despair and no joy ? I wrote on here at length about how I enjoyed the Brentford and Brum games, so stop talking out of your rectal orifice. Because maybe 1 out of 50 posts you make has something positive in it. There's only one person talking out of their a4se, and that's you. You're so in denial it's ridiculous. It doesn't matter what anyone says about you, you disagree, even if it's blatantly obvious to everyone in this forum that it's true.
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I think we should all have a group hug. Where is the togetherness? We are all Saints fans here. Come on people! (obviously I am excluding St Will because he pretends to be a professional golfer when he has admitted to playing mini golf! Alpine is also excluded as he is a miserable sod. Dibden Purlieu Saint is also excluded because he is tory scum) Yeah, yeah! Mini TOUR golf, how many times?!
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Answer this Alpine........ If supporting Southampton really brings you so much despair, as it obviously does, why don't you find something more fun to do? Being a Saints fan doesn't seem to bring you any happiness whatsoever, and there really isn't any point in doing something you don't enjoy (apart from work and pay taxes), so why don't you do something different? It obviously doesn't give you any joy, being a Saints fan, as all you do is pick negatives out of everything that happens......don't waste your life away. Spend some time with your family and concentrate on making them happy. Go out, and find a new hobby. Anything. What is the point in coming on here and spouting nonsense, just to have a whinge? There are so many other things you could do. And you would **** off far less people. St Will meet Alpine Saint. This kind of reply won't phase him as he has had this kind of thing sent to him really quite often! I really wouldn't bother going head to head with him, it will get odious and annoying.
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 St Will meet Alpine Saint. This kind of reply won't phase him as he has had this kind of thing sent to him really quite often! I really wouldn't bother going head to head with him, it will get odious and annoying. I've noticed that.. Except everyone is wrong and he's right. Funny that isn't it!
derry Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Overall, I am still optimistic, but there is still a major issue facing the team - their mental toughness, and it will do serious damage if not addressed. We go to SMS game after game and we hope each game is going to be the one we really get it together. It doesn't happen, we give away goals and the slumping shoulders appear. We score first and appear bright and breezy and the clock reaches the last quarter of an hour, the team looks bothered defends deep, pulls everybody back is battered and gives away in the end. There is a lack of mental toughness, a positive attempt to wrest the game from the opposition is lacking, instead, a rearguard action with only defence in mind invites the opposition to attack us and more often than not we concede. The only time I have seen this team attacking at the end is when the opposition is hanging on to a lead or a point. Mental toughness will come from the character of the new players coming in, but it has to be developed in the young players as they are very brittle.
DT Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Because negative, miserable and unhappy people all think that rich and successful people have been lucky. Because any success a negative person experiences comes through a "pleasant surprise", so if they see success in another person, they think they got lucky and had a whole heap of pleasant surprises. The truth is, if you believe you'll be successful, there's a much greater chance of it happening. Unscientific twoddle.
Minsk Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I see no particular reason to jump down Alpine's throat for posting a valid subject for debate. He is perfectly entitled to speculate as to whether the mindset of some players in the squad is 100% focussed on playing to the best of their ability, or whether they would rather be elsewhere. I agree that it is possible that because of what they have been told by their International managers, both Schneiderlin and Saga might be inclined to believe that they ought to have moved elsewhere. Unless they are loaned out to higher league teams though, they might well feel that they are here until January, so ought to buckle down and put themselves in the shop window on the back of some outstanding performances. I think that Lallana might have wanted out when other team mates and friends like Surman left for the Premiership and it might have been tempting for the glory and higher pay. But he has in the past few years witnessed other contemporaries being sold to Premiership clubs, only to warm the bench or play in the reserves. Perhaps he feels that he might be back in the Premiership within 4 years or so and develop better as a player via this route, or at least improve as a player to be sold next year or the year after. There might well be one or two of the players in the squad who could feel that their chances under Lowe and the double Dutch nonentities was better than it is now under ML and Pardew. Because of some astute quality signings, some have moved down the pecking order. But if they are proper professionals, they will either fight to gain a place in the 1st team, or move on, or out on loan if they feel hard done by. The only player who isn't going to make it, even if fit to play, but who probably feels quite happy to pick up a pay cheque whether he plays or not, is Pulis. What exactly do we do about him? Perhaps our resident expert Bizzle can suggest a solution. Good post Wes. In answer to your question at the end: Kit man? Cone puter outer? Ball boy? Tea Lady? Stock the shelves in the club shop? or maybe even use him as a sweeper (to sweep the concourse after the matches that is)?
Brussels Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Saga Lallana Schneiderlin Anyone else ? I'm a fully paid up member of the happy clappy club and am a relentlessly positive, but I thought this was a fair enough question from Alps for this forum. Anyway, back to the original question, Pardew states Saga does not have a bad attitude and his performances this year show that. In fact during his whole spell at the club I struggle to remember him ever having a bad attitude, he just wants to be sure he gets in the national team which is fair enough............does not mean he does not give his all everytime he trains and plays. My guess is that the only unsettled one is spider due to him being a young kid, constantly told he's amazing by the FFF and wondering if he's not throwing his career away in L1
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Because maybe 1 out of 50 posts you make has something positive in it. There's only one person talking out of their a4se, and that's you. You're so in denial it's ridiculous. It doesn't matter what anyone says about you, you disagree, even if it's blatantly obvious to everyone in this forum that it's true. Do you have ANY points to make about the subject matter here, or are you just going to keep on abusing me ? I love the one about it being me in denial - that's really superb..
kpturner Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 I must be missing the point (I confess I have not read every post). What is this list for exactly? Is it so we know who to boo or what? Any input gratefully received.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 I must be missing the point (I confess I have not read every post). What is this list for exactly? Is it so we know who to boo or what? Any input gratefully received. Those that Pardew must focus on getting into the right mindset and level of performance, or ship out on loan and bring replacements in for.
Wes Tender Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 We go to SMS game after game and we hope each game is going to be the one we really get it together. It doesn't happen, we give away goals and the slumping shoulders appear. We score first and appear bright and breezy and the clock reaches the last quarter of an hour, the team looks bothered defends deep, pulls everybody back is battered and gives away in the end. There is a lack of mental toughness, a positive attempt to wrest the game from the opposition is lacking, instead, a rearguard action with only defence in mind invites the opposition to attack us and more often than not we concede. The only time I have seen this team attacking at the end is when the opposition is hanging on to a lead or a point. Mental toughness will come from the character of the new players coming in, but it has to be developed in the young players as they are very brittle. Exactly, Derry, spot on. For all those having a good old whinge at Alpine having the audacity to post a thread that they perceive to be a b*tching, negative piece, read this and argue against it if you feel that Derry is incorrect in his POV, as this is effectively the crux of the OP. Otherwise, keep your personal insults based on personalities to yourselves.
Micky Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 To be fair - I think it's a decent question. Without doubt transfer deadline week does nothing to focus players to the job in hand. Let's be honest, if our professions were subject to such activity, would the majority of us not be looking at our phones, waiting for a call or bugging our agent to 'get me a better deal'. It has to have an effect on most (if not all) players. Coupled with all of that - there is then the knock on effect as well, 'yes you can have your move, but only if 'player x' comes this way'. However, now that it is done and dusted, those players who perhaps hankered away should be putting thier head down and doing some hard graft, a. To prove themselfs again and b. To put themselves back in the shop window for the next window. (That probably doesn't make good English - but I think you know what I mean). What we should not and cannot tolerate now - are players that outwardly show a lack of desire and commitment within what is meant to (now) be a settled squad.
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 We go to SMS game after game and we hope each game is going to be the one we really get it together. It doesn't happen, we give away goals and the slumping shoulders appear. We score first and appear bright and breezy and the clock reaches the last quarter of an hour, the team looks bothered defends deep, pulls everybody back is battered and gives away in the end. There is a lack of mental toughness, a positive attempt to wrest the game from the opposition is lacking, instead, a rearguard action with only defence in mind invites the opposition to attack us and more often than not we concede. The only time I have seen this team attacking at the end is when the opposition is hanging on to a lead or a point. Mental toughness will come from the character of the new players coming in, but it has to be developed in the young players as they are very brittle. Good post, D.
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 The point of defending myself against abuse (obvious, I thought) or The point of this thread ? I thought I made that clear too Sorry Alps, I mean't the point of labels? Got no probs re the OP.
Thedelldays Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 You say it how you CHOOSE to see it. You could quite easily decide to find something positive to talk about, and concentrate on that. You'd feel better for it, and it'd be a hell of a lot more constructive. at the start of last season I remember vividly, Alpine predicting relegations and administration..he was laughed at so much on here it was embarassing.. he was right on the money...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Those that Pardew must focus on getting into the right mindset and level of performance, or ship out on loan and bring replacements in for. Does Pardew look on here then? Thank God your here to bring attention to potential issues for him, as I'm sure this one hasn't registered yet.
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 And its achieved what, exactly ? An away draw where previously we had lost both away games!
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 at the start of last season I remember vividly, Alpine predicting relegations and administration..he was laughed at so much on here it was embarassing.. he was right on the money... You posted we would survive under Wote....I know who I should listen to.
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Do you have ANY points to make about the subject matter here, or are you just going to keep on abusing me ? I love the one about it being me in denial - that's really superb.. If you have something constructive to talk about, and you make a thread about it, I will respond accordingly. And you ARE in denial. It doesn't matter what anybody says, if it is something that criticises you in any way, you jump on it, deny it and then do you best to offend that person. Even if that person was right. And I'm not just talking about me.
Thedelldays Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 You posted we would survive under Wote....I know who I should listen to. Alpine... but this is not my opinion in the OP
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 Does Pardew look on here then? Thank God your here to bring attention to potential issues for him, as I'm sure this one hasn't registered yet. Well, if you extend that thinking, there is no point in this site at all. Why dont you drop the sneering-for-the-sake-of-it-cos-its-Alps ?
St Will Posted 2 September, 2009 Posted 2 September, 2009 Does Pardew look on here then? Thank God your here to bring attention to potential issues for him, as I'm sure this one hasn't registered yet. Yeah Pardew must have no knowledge of which players are committed or not.....I'm so glad a weasel from a mountain in Austria who's seen 2 games in god knows how long has such an insight....
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2009 Author Posted 2 September, 2009 If you have something constructive to talk about, and you make a thread about it, I will respond accordingly. And you ARE in denial. It doesn't matter what anybody says, if it is something that criticises you in any way, you jump on it, deny it and then do you best to offend that person. Even if that person was right. And I'm not just talking about me. Oh, so you only respond civilly to things you find constructive ? Riiiigght... The rest of your post is foaming-at-the-mouth b*ll*cks
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