Northant Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Is this actually going ahead or is it a rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 er... how much are we getting for him?? "undisclosed" per chance? Just a hunch... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Is this actually going ahead or is it a rumour? I think it appears to be a strong rumour Published in the Echo Despite claims that he would have to elave to play at a higher level, Saganoswki is looking increasingly likely to join League 2 Notts County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 "undisclosed" per chance? Just a hunch... :-) Yes I thought that might be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'd say saga joining county indicates all is not good at saints. Once again it seems we are being shackled by restrictive wage caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Don't know why people are giving him such a hard time. If he has decided to sacrifice his international career for cash, that's up to him. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'd say saga joining county indicates all is not good at saints. Once again it seems we are being shackled by restrictive wage caps. woffle imo you don't spend 10k p/w on 1 player in L1 if you're being ''shackled'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'd say saga joining county indicates all is not good at saints. Once again it seems we are being shackled by restrictive wage caps. What an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'd say saga joining county indicates all is not good at saints. Once again it seems we are being shackled by restrictive wage caps. So if Notts County are offering him more than we currently pay, you'd offer him a pay-rise to keep him would you? EDIT: Bungle has put this more succinctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 So if Notts County are offering him more than we currently pay, you'd offer him a pay-rise to keep him would you? EDIT: Bungle has put this more succinctly. Perhaps Notts County are offering him a long contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 What an idiot. Why abuse people bungle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Why abuse people bungle ? He's making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Perhaps Notts County are offering him a long contract Yeah, maybe. Instead of "more money" read "longer terms". In any case, he is a player who is known to want to leave and is also known to be on a wage which is a perfectly good Chanpionship wage. The notion that his departure to a club in a lower league, who are apparently trying to sign the likes of Nedved, Figo and Larrson (!!!!), therefore means there is discontent in our camp because we are being "shackled" by a wage structure is clearly quite outlandish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 So if Notts County are offering him more than we currently pay, you'd offer him a pay-rise to keep him would you? EDIT: Bungle has put this more succinctly. Yes I would,he has played well this season so what's the point in selling an international striker and replace him with somebody else without pedigree? If you wanna get out of this sh1t league quickly then you need to attract the best players and pay the best wages......I suppose this is what notts county are trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 If it is for money, seeing as he's already on near on 10k p/w here, Notts County are heading for disaster if they're offering him alot more. I cannot believe the wages they are dishing out in L2, they are swinging with the future of that club. It's fair enough spending those wages top end of the champ, or in the prem - but surely there's no justification in L2? Makes a farce of that ''supposed'' wage cap too. Did you miss the bit where they were taken over by billionaires? Will take a long time to spend all that money even in the premiership (unless it's my daughter spending the money) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'd say saga joining county indicates all is not good at saints. Once again it seems we are being shackled by restrictive wage caps. Maybe we don't want to pay over the odds for a player who clearly is only in it for the money. As much as I like the player good riddance I say, greed is not welcome at our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Yes I would,he has played well this season so what's the point in selling an international striker and replace him with somebody else without pedigree? If you wanna get out of this sh1t league quickly then you need to attract the best players and pay the best wages......I suppose this is what notts county are trying to achieve. He has said he wants to leave and is probably one of our top three wage earners already (in fact, I expect only Davies earns roughly the same amount?). If we simply give him a wage increase on that basis we are letting players run the club. It would be ridiculous. The fact that we have not entertained the idea speaks nothing about a "restrictive" wage structure. It points to good management. Further, the fact that we signed the League's top scorer would also seem to be irrefutable evidence that our wage structure is not "restrictive". He's a decent player but he doesn't merit being way out ahead as our top earner. I'm sure there are plenty of similar quality replacements available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 What an idiot. Seems a very fair assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 So if he goes there does that make Notts County a bigger team than you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 So if he goes there does that make Notts County a bigger team than you? Campbell left P*mpey to join Notts County. Does that make them a bigger club than you too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 What an idiot. What a wordsmith you really are. Restrictive wage caps and an unwillingness to spend big in the transfer Market playedva massive part in our downfall from the prem. Our record signing being £4m for Rory delap says it all really, if you also couple this with letiss being the highest paid saints player ever,a player that peaked in the 90's then it shows how far behind everybody else we really were in terms of wages and transfers. I'm not suggesting we should go out and spend money like water but being one of the bigger clubs in the league we should be able to compete with most clubs in our league and definately all of the clubs in L2,regardless of their financial backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Campbell left P*mpey to join Notts County. Does that make them a bigger club than you too? Was a free agent so he was not our player unlike Saga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 A couple of things some people need to realise in this thread. 1) To the person claiming Notts County chairman is acting like a billionaire more than ours is. We have spent more money this window the Notts County. Fact. Wages maybe not but transfer fee's we have. 2) Claiming it is against the rules/spirit of the agreement etc. No it is not. Get your facts right. Donations to the club go towards the turnover of any club. Money the owner wishes to pump into the club, will increase the turnover of the club, therefore the wage budget goes up. Fact. Its clever. It means people with money can spend it. Its legal. Nobody cares except you by the sounds of it. The people that matter, eg The FA, The Football League, Lawyers etc, know it is perfectly legal. Get over it you idiots. Until we put our name to it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Is this a joke ?? HTF is Notts County a step-up ? A step up in wages. I'm sure his agent would describe it as an ambitious move. As if! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Their billionaire likes to actually spend money? Our billionare paid off our debts.........Christ you really are a wind up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 and people sung his name.He was always a mercenary and overrated at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I lol'd at this - on a Notts County forum... Schneiderlin from Soton mentioned on Twitter http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=402&fid=17&sty=2&act=1&mid=2124735298 (post 51) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Remeber the season he scored ten in ten was rewarded with a contract and has been lets face it very poor ever since. How can a player of clear ability show such a lack of effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 (edited) What a wordsmith you really are. Restrictive wage caps and an unwillingness to spend big in the transfer Market playedva massive part in our downfall from the prem. Our record signing being £4m for Rory delap says it all really, if you also couple this with letiss being the highest paid saints player ever,a player that peaked in the 90's then it shows how far behind everybody else we really were in terms of wages and transfers. I'm not suggesting we should go out and spend money like water but being one of the bigger clubs in the league we should be able to compete with most clubs in our league and definately all of the clubs in L2,regardless of their financial backing. Ricky Lambert, the joint highest goalscorer in the league last season, signed for us for just over £1million (all told), and according to Bristol Rovers we "more than doubled his wages". We clearly made an attractive offer to the captain of Colchester Utd, a team near the top of the league. It just goes to show we are spending more money than most of the division, and you simply don't have a clue. Edited 1 September, 2009 by bungle Idiocy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 1 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I lol'd at this - on a Notts County forum... http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=402&fid=17&sty=2&act=1&mid=2124735298 (post 51) No chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Remeber the season he scored ten in ten was rewarded with a contract and has been lets face it very poor ever since. How can a player of clear ability show such a lack of effort? Thats the bit that gets me - someone on here will know his goal tally for us and IMHO for an International "striker" he does not score enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eesti matty Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 What a wordsmith you really are. Restrictive wage caps and an unwillingness to spend big in the transfer Market playedva massive part in our downfall from the prem. Our record signing being £4m for Rory delap says it all really, if you also couple this with letiss being the highest paid saints player ever,a player that peaked in the 90's then it shows how far behind everybody else we really were in terms of wages and transfers. I'm not suggesting we should go out and spend money like water but being one of the bigger clubs in the league we should be able to compete with most clubs in our league and definately all of the clubs in L2,regardless of their financial backing. In terms of a basic wage, in his autobiography, Le Tissier claims that he never earned more than 4000 quid a week. I think we've had many players earning more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Our billionare paid off our debts.........Christ you really are a wind up!!! He did not pay off our debts. He settled them to acquire the club lock stock and barrel for a bargain 12 million pounds. The club may well be debt free but it no longer is ours. People seem to think ML is a knight in shining armour but that is an illusion. He is a sound businessman with an eye to make SFC into a profit making entity. Without him we could well and truly have been toast, so his arrival can be welcomed but lets not endow him with godlike status just yet. The thought of just having Paterson and Lambert left as forwards is a real worry too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 He did not pay off our debts. He settled them to acquire the club lock stock and barrel for a bargain 12 million pounds. The club may well be debt free but it no longer is ours. People seem to think ML is a knight in shining armour but that is an illusion. He is a sound businessman with an eye to make SFC into a profit making entity. Without him we could well and truly have been toast, so his arrival can be welcomed but lets not endow him with godlike status just yet. The thought of just having Paterson and Lambert left as forwards is a real worry too! Totally agree Duncan if Saga goes I would have thought we need another two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Luke Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'd say saga joining county indicates all is not good at saints. Once again it seems we are being shackled by restrictive wage caps. I'd rather be in the position we're in now with AP & Marcus, than the one we we in last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 oh dear ML needs to put his hand in his pocket (not even that deep btw) and spend a few quid. I bet Fialka woulda.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 http://twitter.com/SportSpeech Said here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 He did not pay off our debts. He settled them to acquire the club lock stock and barrel for a bargain 12 million pounds. The club may well be debt free but it no longer is ours. FF, I think that's just playing with words. The point is he did stump up 12m quid to buy the club and the debts are cleared/settled, delete as appropriate. I did have an interesting conversation with an ex colleague in Geneva though, when ML bought the club the exchange rate was at a historic low. If it goes back to the £1 = 2.2CHF historic level's he'll have made a couple of million £ on the exchange rate alone. Small change for a man of his level of wealth, but £2m is not to be sniffed at. When we reach the prem (uh hum!) the figures will be very very large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 ML does not "need" to do anything. He is his own boss, he owes us nothing and Paterson and Lambert leading our forward line this winter won't undy phase him. No, all eyes should be on Cortese for it is he in charge. Lets hope he knows what he doing. I sincererly hope contingency plans for Saga's departure have at least been hatched if not yet implanted because Paterson is no way ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 saga to boro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 So if he goes there does that make Notts County a bigger team than you? It's probably got something to do with earning more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 FF, I think that's just playing with words. The point is he did stump up 12m quid to buy the club and the debts are cleared/settled, delete as appropriate. I did have an interesting conversation with an ex colleague in Geneva though, when ML bought the club the exchange rate was at a historic low. If it goes back to the £1 = 2.2CHF historic level's he'll have made a couple of million £ on the exchange rate alone. Small change for a man of his level of wealth, but £2m is not to be sniffed at. When we reach the prem (uh hum!) the figures will be very very large. Fair point GS but at the end of the day ML is a wealthy investor not a wealthy benefactor and the sooner we all realise that the better. Now of course if he was a lifelong fan like all of us then it might be different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think with these thengs it is like buying a house.You need your buyers to complete so your solicitor to complete on your deal. I expect there will be a chain in line all reliant on the deals at the top to feed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Fair point GS but at the end of the day ML is a wealthy investor not a wealthy benefactor and the sooner we all realise that the better. Now of course if he was a lifelong fan like all of us then it might be different! I was shouted down when I said he was RL with a kinder and more fan friendly face. So far he has acted well and you have to learn to walk before you run. It cant be easwy convincing players to join us when they are facing a relegation battle. had we knocked off more points by now I suspect AP's job would have been easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Hate to interupt this mud slinging fest, but has it actually been confirmed anywhere that he's going to Notts Co? I can't find anything official anywhere and it would seem a strange move if true. Yes I know they could offer decent money, but they'd probably have to offer him £20k a week for him to give up his international career. Still, it will be great if he does go. Having no striker at all is way better than having one who isn't scoring. Sure it's just a matter of time before we start winning with Jamie White up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think it is laughable how many people on here have taken this rumour as Gospel and are slagging off someone who may well still be in our starting 11 this weekend. (Although I doubt that he will be.) Personally, I would rather wait until there has been official anouncement as to who has gone where and who has come in before I will start crying over milk which could still well be sat in the fridge (even if the top is a bit loose). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I was shouted down when I said he was RL with a kinder and more fan friendly face. . Apart from their nationality differences, the fact that one comes from an Engineering background, the other a Financial one, their ages, one being many, many times more wealthy than the other and their entirely different personalities, other than those aspects, you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 what a pointless thread considering no direct quote from any source. cant believe it has had nearly 3000 views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I was shouted down when I said he was RL with a kinder and more fan friendly face. So far he has acted well and you have to learn to walk before you run. It cant be easwy convincing players to join us when they are facing a relegation battle. had we knocked off more points by now I suspect AP's job would have been easier. Hmmm, last season (in a higher division) RL gave us the likes of Forecast, Molyneux, Gasmi, Smith and the world class Anthony Pulis. So far this season ML has given us Lambert, Hammond, Harding, and Murty, as well as couple of decent young loan players. Oh, and of course he gave Kelvin a new contract. Yes, I can the similarities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Lloyd James strangles baby kittens. Just seen on SSN. Absolutely shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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