Saint Charlie Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I don't think an official bid was made, more so a phone call between clubs and agents, which stalled something which was going to happen (and subsequently stopped it happening at all) again, all that i've been told - not saying it's 100%, just thought i'd share. Did you hear anything about players coming in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Anyone else getting really bored of seeing 'Poke Rejoins Torquay United'? Yes, exactly. I saw that earlier and thought to myself 'I've seen that story 15 times in the last 2 seasons.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I don't think an official bid was made, more so a phone call between clubs and agents, which stalled something which was going to happen (and subsequently stopped it happening at all) again, all that I've been told - not saying it's 100%, just thought i'd share. make sense! if saga was on his way out maybe AP had some lined up but as saga staying no need. we can build from what we have and maybe loane's may come in if needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 St Will - you're a 'glass half full' man, arent you. I am too, so, cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Did you hear anything about players coming in? The Gradel deal was apparently the one which stalled, as Saga was off to Leicester in some kind of swap - that would have prompted another signing to go through too (a striker - not sure who though tbf). It's weird how transfers can work like that - 1 move can cause a cascade effect. That could still resurrect it's self when the loan window opens though i guess. No idea on the Boro link that came up towards the end of the day. ..ignore all the stories about the beckford/jackson bids though, just normal transfer day stories. Also no official bids for Adam or Morgan. The only other one is common knowledge really - Jaidi, almost a done deal, pending work permit (should be ok now - still not 100% sure what the issue was with it in the first place tbf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'm sure i will be shouted down but i really don't like the fact we are having to rely on loans. Loans are not commited to the club or the cause.We have,due to financial restraints,had to rely heavily on loan signings the past few years,the number of loanees amongst our ranks has swelled considerably. I personally think this fact has also contributed to our dramatic fall from grace. All Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 The Gradel deal was apparently the one which stalled, as Saga was off to Leicester in some kind of swap - that would have prompted another signing to go through too (a striker - not sure who though tbf). It's weird how transfers can work like that - 1 move can cause a cascade effect. That could still resurrect it's self when the loan window opens though i guess. No idea on the Boro link that came up towards the end of the day. ..ignore all the stories about the beckford/jackson bids though, just normal transfer day stories. Also no official bids for Adam or Morgan. The only other one is common knowledge really - Jaidi, almost a done deal, pending work permit (should be ok now - still not 100% sure what the issue was with it in the first place tbf) If Leicester don't want Gradel and we do, then surely they could have come to some arrangement. If deals were that complicated then no business would get done on deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 If Leicester don't want Gradel and we do, then surely they could have come to some arrangement. If deals were that complicated then no business would get done on deadline day. im guessing...it is not as easy as that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'm sure i will be shouted down but i really don't like the fact we are having to rely on loans. Loans are not commited to the club or the cause.We have,due to financial restraints,had to rely heavily on loan signings the past few years,the number of loanees amongst our ranks has swelled considerably. I personally think this fact has also contributed to our dramatic fall from grace. All Imo. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 im guessing...it is not as easy as that... If only it was, i think you'll find alot of moves (Especially on deadline day) work like this. Clubs don't want to lose without bringing in a replacement first etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 News has just come up on Sportinglife (sorry if I have missed it elsewhere) that Aaron Davies has signed on loan at Brighton until the end of December. I am gutted that we missed out on him. However, I will feel better about it if we do bring Gradel in on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I'm sure i will be shouted down but i really don't like the fact we are having to rely on loans. Loans are not commited to the club or the cause.We have,due to financial restraints,had to rely heavily on loan signings the past few years,the number of loanees amongst our ranks has swelled considerably. I personally think this fact has also contributed to our dramatic fall from grace. All Imo. Thats your opinion and fair enough but I think without Lucketti, Wright, Cork, Guthrie, Potter and recently Trotman we would of been worse off. Leicester loaned in several players last season and it didn't do them any harm. Its who the loans are that have caused us a couple of probs...Peckhardt, Robertson, Gasmi and of course Pericard all failed to step up to the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Thats your opinion and fair enough but I think without Lucketti, Wright, Cork, Guthrie, Potter and recently Trotman we would of been worse off. Leicester loaned in several players last season and it didn't do them any harm. Its who the loans are that have caused us a couple of probs...Peckhardt, Robertson, Gasmi and of course Pericard all failed to step up to the mark. Just how worse off would we have been? Bottom of division 3? Oh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 relegated a seaon earlier d'oh!!! Without bringing in Lucketti, Perry and Wright we would of been sunk long before the last game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Thats your opinion and fair enough but I think without Lucketti, Wright, Cork, Guthrie, Potter and recently Trotman we would of been worse off. Leicester loaned in several players last season and it didn't do them any harm. Its who the loans are that have caused us a couple of probs...Peckhardt, Robertson, Gasmi and of course Pericard all failed to step up to the mark. Wright was a great aquisition i will agree. But were they not all part of a squad that ultimately 'failed'. I am not meaning to be confrontational in anyway but cobbling a squad together with loanees is not,imo,progressive and just gives me the impression that the attitude of ' i'm not that bothered aint my club' so i can bog off and go missing in games when the going gets tough. All imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeismyname Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 from officialsaints on Twitter: "officialsaintsHow's this to get tongues wagging - we are still hard at work at St Marys finalising a deal.Unlikely to be announced until 2morrow #saintsfc" COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Wright was a great aquisition i will agree. But were they not all part of a squad that ultimately 'failed'. I am not meaning to be confrontational in anyway but cobbling a squad together with loanees is not,imo,progressive and just gives me the impression that the attitude of ' i'm not that bothered aint my club' so i can bog off and go missing in games when the going gets tough. All imo. Sorry how did they fail...we stayed up that season they came in. I understand your point of view but feel loaness can be useful as they can come with a point to prove like Trotman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry how did they fail...we stayed up that season they came in. I understand your point of view but feel loaness can be useful as they can come with a point to prove like Trotman. And like Saga.....oh,whatever happened to him Trotman thus far appears a good aquisition,we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 You wont win anything with a team of kids and you wont win nowt with a team full of loans - teams that will win things are the ones that act fast, act decisively and the ones that show some ambition. Teams that start on -10, pick up 3 points from 15 and act slowly in the transfer market will do nothing.....except maybe a cheeky relegation fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 The Gradel deal was apparently the one which stalled, as Saga was off to Leicester in some kind of swap - that would have prompted another signing to go through too (a striker - not sure who though tbf). It's weird how transfers can work like that - 1 move can cause a cascade effect. That could still resurrect it's self when the loan window opens though i guess. No idea on the Boro link that came up towards the end of the day. ..ignore all the stories about the beckford/jackson bids though, just normal transfer day stories. Also no official bids for Adam or Morgan. The only other one is common knowledge really - Jaidi, almost a done deal, pending work permit (should be ok now - still not 100% sure what the issue was with it in the first place tbf) Sickener - Gradel would have ensured we won some games as he is seriously quick and had League 1 defences in all sorts of trouble last year. He was superb for Bournemouth on loan as well. Hope Pardew can bring in 4 or 5 really good fringe PL or CCC loans by the time the loan window opens next Monday to give us a chance of staying up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 You wont win anything with a team of kids and you wont win nowt with a team full of loans - teams that will win things are the ones that act fast, act decisively and the ones that show some ambition. Teams that start on -10, pick up 3 points from 15 and act slowly in the transfer market will do nothing.....except maybe a cheeky relegation fight. Show some ambition like paying a million for a last seasons top goalscorer in the division? Bringing in 6 new squad members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Show some ambition like paying a million for a last seasons top goalscorer in the division? Bringing in 6 new squad members? Having a tall forward who thrives on crosses but having nobody to supply said crosses just about sums us up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Having a tall forward who thrives on crosses but having nobody to supply said crosses just about sums us up..... I think we'll be looking better once Mills/Holmes is back though Holmes should be playing a reserve game this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think we'll be looking better once Mills/Holmes is back though Holmes should be playing a reserve game this week. If true then good news - how long he manages to stay fit is a different matter thou I feel. fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 just another note, off topic just on SSN - Colchester expect to announce their new manager tomorrow, possibly Boothroyd. As per usual, right in time for us. Great stuff. Im sure they do it on purpose. ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Thats your opinion and fair enough but I think without Lucketti, Wright, Cork, Guthrie, Potter and recently Trotman we would of been worse off. Leicester loaned in several players last season and it didn't do them any harm. Its who the loans are that have caused us a couple of probs...Peckhardt, Robertson, Gasmi and of course Pericard all failed to step up to the mark. They must have been crap as I can only remember Robertson ever playing for us ! No wonder Stoke released Pericard and Bristol City ( I think) didn't want him after a trial ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Yep. Same old lack of ambition. Yes I suppose you could look at it like that (if your were a morose manic depressive). Or you could look at Pardew's statement saying he was hoping to bring in three players and use your brain to work out that perhaps, for whatever reasons, those deals could not be done today. You could also stop and think about the players we have already brought in recently. But then that wouldn't fit in with your agenda would it? I wondered how long it would be before you started on the new management set up, not long was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think we'll be looking better once Mills/Holmes is back though Holmes should be playing a reserve game this week. If we can get Mills and Mclaggon on the wings we will have the supply to Lambert that is missing....where that leaves Lallana though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 They must have been crap as I can only remember Robertson ever playing for us ! No wonder Stoke released Pericard and Bristol City ( I think) didn't want him after a trial ! Pekhart was the guy from Spurs, tall gangly striker who scored a goal on his debut v Ipswich - not a bad player, but for some reason we never played him. Pericard had trials at Cardiff and Barnsley this pre-season too, i bet he'll end up down in the lower leagues somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 If we can get Mills and Mclaggon on the wings we will have the supply to Lambert that is missing....where that leaves Lallana though... just behind Lambert, or if not - on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 If we can get Mills and Mclaggon on the wings we will have the supply to Lambert that is missing....where that leaves Lallana though... Playing off of lambert IMO, I agree mclaggon and mills have pace, but can they deliver a telling cross ?? TBF, i know mills looked good in the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Lack of ambition and intent IMO,apart from the obvious things off of the field we are no further advanced from last season. It is nice to be free of debt and lowe but I havnt witnessed one single thing that has shown me we mean business in this league tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Lack of ambition and intent IMO,apart from the obvious things off of the field we are no further advanced from last season. It is nice to be free of debt and lowe but I havnt witnessed one single thing that has shown me we mean business in this league tbh. Spending 1.1m on last seasons top scorer, and doubling his wages? Signing the captain of a L1 club (for 400k) that will most likely be challenging for promotion (or would have been, i might add)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 just behind Lambert, or if not - on the bench. That is the best place for him for me....as long as he can read that Lambert wins nearly everything in the air and reacts a bit quicker as his lack of pace is a hindrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Playing off of lambert IMO, I agree mclaggon and mills have pace, but can they deliver a telling cross ?? TBF, i know mills looked good in the preseason From what I have seen of McLaggon in reserves and the couple of games he played before getting injured. He was far better than Row Z Dyer and could actually pick out a fellow Saint. I just hope his injury will not affect his pace and skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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