Back from the game!

[Lazlo78]

I still feel sick though. Just barked at the kids for no reason and bit them missus' head off for offering me a cup of tea at the wrong time. Miserable git for 48 hours - that's me.

 

I almost did the same thing. Problem is, that my wife and kids are not aware of Saints' results and their importance towards my general mood. That's the downside of being a far flung fan - there is noone to share the joy and frustration with...

 

Lots of positives from this thread - makes me count to ten and go back to the original "our season starts in september"-mindset, difficult as it is...

[shurlock]

Went to the game. Just knew that the ref would attempt to even things up and he dutifully obliged. It was definitely ball to hand/arm. The ball was hit at such close-range that little could be done.

 

Trottman was easily MOM. Not the most polished of players but he's an absolute rock and has a presence and composure that spreads through the team.

 

Thought James had another very good game and with Hammond has tightened things up in the middle. I would still like him pass and move more but he's tidy and disciplined. Even sprayed some cross-field balls a la Schneiderlin.

 

Like Tuesday, Lallana also had a vey good game though too early to say if he's discovering some of last year's early form. Above all, I was impressed by his strength on the ball - opponents found it much more difficult to dispossess him today. With Harding, much of our threat came down the left. By contrast, I'm a bit concerned about our right - Thomas won't get forward as much as Murty and Mellis looks a bit lightweight.

 

Lambert hasn't really shown his true colours yet. Was winning everything in the air, especially after their CB was subbed and was convinced his free-kick had gone in but often dropped too deep. Possibly stems from the fact that, in the absence of decent delivery, he's looking for the ball too much. Ultimately he won't come good until we get more to him, especially down the flanks.

 

Although we settled down second half, we still played things too long - all too often results in players getting isolated and having no options around them. Also too few players are willing to step up to the plate, to take a shot when in space (and the last person you should be urging to shoot is Thomas - as he was the only one to try his luck today or tighten the stranglehold (instead of slow things down or go sideways) when the game is shifting in our favour.

 

For those who are worried about relegation, get real. Today reminded me just how **** poor the league is and that it doesn't take much to be competitive- apart from Huddersfield and a crazy second half period against Millwall, i can't remember us being really stretched or overrun in any game. Yes we haven't been particularly fluent but we've never been uncomfortable. Maybe that means we should expect more, that we should be walking this league; but for me it means that we'll be OK and survive and shouldn't panic as we use this season as a season of transition. It won't get any worse.

Edited 29 August, 2009 by shurlock

[NN2 Saint]

Played fairly well possibly the best league performance by the lads. But the thing is it was 2 points dropped against a useless side. I thought James had an excellent game in CM and the sooner we can replace Saga the better I get the feeling he thinks he is too good for this level. He isn't, we definitely need 2 wingers to hit the by-line and another striker. The game today should of been wrapped up just after half time

[Micky]

1000 saints fans eh, and yet others are saying that the ref was intimidated by what 3200 or so Stockport fans, must be real baskerville hounds then, and to think that some refs aren't intimidated by 90000 Barca fans insulting them, their mums and about every other close relative.I think a veil of illusion is being drawn over our absolute ineptitude by some happy clappy fans who just can't see that Liebherr hasn't got the job done any more than some unknown punter with a couple of million obtain from a start up enterprise.The bloke at peterborough put up about 8 mill last year, but they got promoted, our guy is supposed to be worth about 2.5 billion yet we've got 3 points from 5 games,even though he's had nigh on 4 million in ST sales and sold players for another 2.9 million.

 

If there was a prize for mong post of the day, (in fact year even), this would win - hands down...!

[John B]

If there was a prize for mong post of the day, (in fact year even), this would win - hands down...!

 

Seems quite a reasonable post to me this lot appear to talk a good story but results do not happen.

 

 

I hope it changes soon

[Micky]

Seems quite a reasonable post to me this lot appear to talk a good story but results do not happen.

 

 

I hope it changes soon

 

I see - so we are all once again labelled as 'happy clappy' and the obvious solution to our problems is to throw more and more money at it. Good stuff - let's do it.

 

After all - the original 5 year plan is now 5 games in - we can see it's not working - there is no hope of salvaging anything over the course of the plan, so lets scrap it.

 

Results have not happened - but from what I can gather from some of the less panicky posters here - performances have improved, especially over the last couple of games - so let's not assume anything just yet huh.

 

5 years equates to about 250 games - we are only 5 in and people are starting to make judgements - strange to say the least.

[Legod Third Coming]

Even if we had not had the five years of turmoil preceding this season, you could not judge a manager on five games.

 

FIVE FECKING GAMES.

 

Just repeat it, over and over slowly.

[John B]

I see - so we are all once again labelled as 'happy clappy' and the obvious solution to our problems is to throw more and more money at it. Good stuff - let's do it.

 

After all - the original 5 year plan is now 5 games in - we can see it's not working - there is no hope of salvaging anything over the course of the plan, so lets scrap it.

 

Results have not happened - but from what I can gather from some of the less panicky posters here - performances have improved, especially over the last couple of games - so let's not assume anything just yet huh.

 

5 years equates to about 250 games - we are only 5 in and people are starting to make judgements - strange to say the least.

 

 

Well you could have said the same last season as well .

 

 

I watched Tuesday night's performance and we were not bad but scoring goals and defending leads is what makes results and we are not doing that at the moment.

 

 

I just want Pardew's talk to be turned into wins and not to keep blaming the ref.

 

 

At 1 0 it is always possible to conceed a late goal but at 2 0 a late goal does not matter that much.

 

It is worrying though the MOM was a CB

Edited 30 August, 2009 by John B

[Running Man]

Went to the game. Just knew that the ref would attempt to even things up and he dutifully obliged. It was definitely ball to hand/arm. The ball was hit at such close-range that little could be done.

 

Trottman was easily MOM. Not the most polished of players but he's an absolute rock and has a presence and composure that spreads through the team.

 

Thought James had another very good game and with Hammond has tightened things up in the middle. I would still like him pass and move more but he's tidy and disciplined. Even sprayed some cross-field balls a la Schneiderlin.

 

Like Tuesday, Lallana also had a vey good game though too early to say if he's discovering some of last year's early form. Above all, I was impressed by his strength on the ball - opponents found it much more difficult to dispossess him today. With Harding, much of our threat came down the left. By contrast, I'm a bit concerned about our right - Thomas won't get forward as much as Murty and Mellis looks a bit lightweight.

 

Lambert hasn't really shown his true colours yet. Was winning everything in the air, especially after their CB was subbed and was convinced his free-kick had gone in but often dropped too deep. Possibly stems from the fact that, in the absence of decent delivery, he's looking for the ball too much. Ultimately he won't come good until we get more to him, especially down the flanks.

 

Although we settled down second half, we still played things too long - all too often results in players getting isolated and having no options around them. Also too few players are willing to step up to the plate, to take a shot when in space (and the last person you should be urging to shoot is Thomas - as he was the only one to try his luck today or tighten the stranglehold (instead of slow things down or go sideways) when the game is shifting in our favour.

 

For those who are worried about relegation, get real. Today reminded me just how **** poor the league is and that it doesn't take much to be competitive- apart from Huddersfield and a crazy second half period against Millwall, i can't remember us being really stretched or overrun in any game. Yes we haven't been particularly fluent but we've never been uncomfortable. Maybe that means we should expect more, that we should be walking this league; but for me it means that we'll be OK and survive and shouldn't panic as we use this season as a season of transition. It won't get any worse.

 

Great report shurlock, thanks.

 

Enjoyed reading that & it gives me confidence that Pardew is building a good team and improving things which is the way I saw the Brentford game.

 

As you say it won't get any worse.

[dune]

I was again very impressed with "Rodney" Trottman. He'll become a very good player. Solid at the back, good with his head (although he needs to work on directing the ball with his head), and a calming influence. Without a doubt a crucial part of our team.

 

I've been to Huddersfield, Brentford and Stockport and every game we've improved, but te midfield need to become better in turning our possesion into cutting edge delivery. They worked hard yesterday but there were times when they had time to look up and play the ball more calmly.

 

The club and the team are making progress and deserve our support. I'd urge patience and to ignore the likes of Delldays (who doesn't go to games) because frankly he's clueless. Our support yesterday was large and made up of die hard fans - the club need us to stay behind them and to support them, there's no room for whingeing minnies because all they will achieve is to see us relegated.

 

Before the season started i knew it'd be a struggle, **** me we were gash last last season, so to see the way we're progessing is a good sign. Stick with the lads and we'll survive and next season we'll bounce back up.

[S-Clarke]

Even if we had not had the five years of turmoil preceding this season, you could not judge a manager on five games.

 

FIVE FECKING GAMES.

 

Just repeat it, over and over slowly.

 

Don't worry, they will judge.

 

ML is totally in the wrong too apparently, as he appointed a banker to run the club and has not spent enough money.

 

time for them all to go and start again, the 5 year plan is obviously not working.

[ericofarabia]

Bitterly disappointed at not getting all 3 points from a game which we really should have put to bed long before the end.

 

Stockport really were poor, and we still couldn't finish them off despite all our good play. The main positives for me were :

 

1/ Lallana looking like he is getting back into form.

 

2/ Trottman was immense in defence, hope we can keep him for the whole season (but on this form Preston will probably want him back in a flash)

 

3/ Wayne Thomas looked really good at fullback (admittedly Stockport didn't really have a livewire winger to test him out.

 

4/ In Lambert we have a player who is winning virtually every ball in the air, now we need to capitalise on his knockdowns. We really need a good song to sing his praises for all his good work.

 

5/ We even look like we can score from corners

 

6/ Vast improvement on my previous games seen this season.

 

The lows were :

 

1/ The ref and linos. The ref got so many decisions wrong (for both teams) The linos didn't even give throw in decisions till they saw which way the ref had decided it would go.

 

2/ What a craphole Stockport is. Also what is it with The OB telling landlords not to let Saints fans into pubs for a quick aftermatch beer?

 

3/ Once again totally shocked at how so many Saints fans can sit at an away game and make so little noise. At Huddersfield we were playing poor and got little to get excited about, but yesterday we were in control, winning and playing half decent football yet it was still like a morgue in our section

 

Back to sunnier climes soon so probably my last live game and will now have to endure the commentary on The Saint Player for the rest of the season . Great to meet up with a few old faces during my stay ... keep the faith and who knows the play offs may still be acheivable ( should I tentatively pencil in some leave for May )

 

COYS

[OldNick]

fans who were there, cna you tell me , did we try and get the ball in the corners in the last few minutes? I didnt hear commentary but was F5 ing it on here.The injury time just went on and on.A post came up saying Davis had the ball and we were well into injury time then we had the posts 'penalty' etc. How come htey got the ball back into our box and half?

[John B]

fans who were there, cna you tell me , did we try and get the ball in the corners in the last few minutes? I didnt hear commentary but was F5 ing it on here.The injury time just went on and on.A post came up saying Davis had the ball and we were well into injury time then we had the posts 'penalty' etc. How come htey got the ball back into our box and half?

 

Seems a scenario I have heard before

[sperm_john]

patience is a virtue ..

[derry]

It's worrying, we have two decent strikers but feeding off scraps. We need to grasp the nettle and play two men out on the touchlines and start getting decent crosses into the penalty area for the two strikers and supporting midfielders.

 

I don't like the way we bring all 11 back in and around our box, when defending set pieces and at the end of the game, as it allows the opposition to saturate us with unrelenting pressure as we have no outlet.

 

Two or three left up would take three or four out of the equation and give us an outlet to relieve pressure.

[John B]

It's worrying, we have two decent strikers but feeding off scraps. We need to grasp the nettle and play two men out on the touchlines and start getting decent crosses into the penalty area for the two strikers and supporting midfielders.

 

I don't like the way we bring all 11 back in and around our box, when defending set pieces and at the end of the game, as it allows the opposition to saturate us with unrelenting pressure as we have no outlet.

 

Two or three left up would take three or four out of the equation and give us an outlet to relieve pressure.

 

I agree but when did we last have any decent wide players

 

Did not see many crosses coming in from the byline last Tuesday

[dellgirl]

Thank you to the positive posters,it is truly awful to see our Club brought so low(without the e) and the climb back will be painful,we have to build a team again that we can have connection with,not a bunch of individual players that come in to do a job.It was sad watching the highlights from the leagues last night and seeing so many old Saints players still playing well and were loved by us ( or hated ) but they were ours..I long to feel like that again,when we know our personalities,that they stay for the long term and our Club has a heart again..I know it will take time and we have started but we must stay positive and get behind the people who have at least made this possible in the future.

[SouthportSaint]

Seems a scenario I have heard before

I don't think we ran down time as well as we could have - considering we had been generally keeping possession quite comfortably. For the last couple of minutes of injury time we were content to kick the ball into touch or down the field - inviting them to put another long ball into our box.

[mcjwills]

patience is a virtue ..

 

no its a girls name

[SaintRobbie]

Even if we had not had the five years of turmoil preceding this season, you could not judge a manager on five games.

 

FIVE FECKING GAMES.

 

Just repeat it, over and over slowly.

 

As I recall WGS lost more than that when he took over.

[Wilko]

 

4/ In Lambert we have a player who is winning virtually every ball in the air, now we need to capitalise on his knockdowns. We really need a good song to sing his praises for all his good work.

 

2/ What a craphole Stockport is. Also what is it with The OB telling landlords not to let Saints fans into pubs for a quick aftermatch beer?

 

3/ Once again totally shocked at how so many Saints fans can sit at an away game and make so little noise.

 

 

4/ The number of times he wins a header and nobody is anywhere near the knock-down is pretty shocking.

 

2/ We went into the Armoury after the game. No trouble at all.

 

3/ It's so depressing I don't even know how to express my sadness at it all. Away games used to be a laugh. These days, everybody just seems to turn up, sit down, look miserable, then go home. What's the point in travelling 300+ miles for that? Yesterday, it gave the miserable jobsworth stewards the ultimate sanction against the 100 or so people who did want to stand up. Have a word with yourselves.

[shurlock]

fans who were there, cna you tell me , did we try and get the ball in the corners in the last few minutes? I didnt hear commentary but was F5 ing it on here.The injury time just went on and on.A post came up saying Davis had the ball and we were well into injury time then we had the posts 'penalty' etc. How come htey got the ball back into our box and half?

 

We didn't get the ball into their half let alone keep it in the corners in the last few mins.

 

We seemed content to drop off and defend bits and pieces coming in. Still none of it really troubled us- for instance, Stockport a wave of corners in the first half which was quite similar to the pressure that led to Millwall's goal in the first half; but we stood up to it very well. So I guess we got a bit complacent later on. Also we're not keeping possession long or well enough to be cute and play keep ball/take the ball into their corners.

[shurlock]

3/ It's so depressing I don't even know how to express my sadness at it all. Away games used to be a laugh. These days, everybody just seems to turn up, sit down, look miserable, then go home. What's the point in travelling 300+ miles for that? Yesterday, it gave the miserable jobsworth stewards the ultimate sanction against the 100 or so people who did want to stand up. Have a word with yourselves.

 

The lack of roof definitely had something to do with it. Its not like the away support is lower than last season or that many of the usual faces no longer go. If the performances continue to improve and we have a proper stand, the atmosphere will pick up.

[Lazlo78]

It is worrying though the MOM was a CB

 

Considering that Kelvin Davis constantly has been our MOM for the last year or so, I'd call it a step in the right direction that somebody else joins that rather exclusive club. And oh, it's one of those CB's we've been crying out for...

[Saint Since '51]

Yesterday, it gave the miserable jobsworth stewards the ultimate sanction against the 100 or so people who did want to stand up. Have a word with yourselves.

 

700 fans there

100 wanting to stand up...

...(in front of the other 600?)

 

All-seater stadium.

Geddit?

 

You have a word with yourself

[RedAndWhite91]

Yesterday' date=' it gave the miserable jobsworth stewards the ultimate sanction against the 100 or so people who did want to stand up. Have a word with yourselves.[/i']

 

700 fans there

100 wanting to stand up...

...(in front of the other 600?)

 

All-seater stadium.

Geddit?

 

You have a word with yourself

 

Good point. Let's all sit down, get the flasks of hot chocolate out, sit there in complete silence and hope our team doesn't realise we are there.

[bungle]

Yesterday' date=' it gave the miserable jobsworth stewards the ultimate sanction against the 100 or so people who did want to stand up. Have a word with yourselves.[/i']

 

700 fans there

100 wanting to stand up...

...(in front of the other 600?)

 

All-seater stadium.

Geddit?

 

You have a word with yourself

 

No, you have a word with yourself. If the fans who want to sit down just left a gap (2-3 rows) or one block for those who want to stand up, there would be no problem.

 

However, our fans who just want to sit down (and that is their choice) just make things difficult by sitting right at the back and then lambasting anyone who dares consider making some atmosphere.

 

One of the stewards yesterday said that Leeds fans NEVER get made to sit down, simply because they all stand up in en masse.

 

Our away support is quite pathetic, but if those fans who arrive at 2pm and sit in the back row just thought for a second then there would be less of a problem.

[shurlock]

No, you have a word with yourself. If the fans who want to sit down just left a gap (2-3 rows) or one block for those who want to stand up, there would be no problem.

 

However, our fans who just want to sit down (and that is their choice) just make things difficult by sitting right at the back and then lambasting anyone who dares consider making some atmosphere.

 

One of the stewards yesterday said that Leeds fans NEVER get made to sit down, simply because they all stand up in en masse.

 

Our away support is quite pathetic, but if those fans who arrive at 2pm and sit in the back row just thought for a second then there would be less of a problem.

 

Yesterday, tickets weren't unreserved seating, so I guess quite a few people went to their allocated seats, splitting things up. When seating is unreserved, its easier for people who want to stand to group together (i.e. go to the back or sides) and start an atmosphere without causing aggro for those who want to sit. I have no idea why clubs don't use unreserved seating for the majority of games.

Edited 30 August, 2009 by shurlock

[Saint Since '51]

No, you have a word with yourself. If the fans who want to sit down just left a gap (2-3 rows) or one block for those who want to stand up, there would be no problem.

 

However, our fans who just want to sit down (and that is their choice) just make things difficult by sitting right at the back and then lambasting anyone who dares consider making some atmosphere.

 

One of the stewards yesterday said that Leeds fans NEVER get made to sit down, simply because they all stand up in en masse.

 

Our away support is quite pathetic, but if those fans who arrive at 2pm and sit in the back row just thought for a second then there would be less of a problem.

 

Fine. That's a deal. I'll sit. You stand. No problem.

 

If it's free when I arrive, I'll sit behind the goal, towards the back. My choice, as you say. And it's all seating after all. And I have bothered to get there at 2pm. I promise not to moan at anyone "creating an atmosphere". I shall, however, moan at anyone selfish enough to come late and stand right in front of me.

 

And you can stand anywhere you like that's free when you get there - so long as it's not in front of me. The sides are usually pretty empty.

[Asaint4ever]

1000 saints fans eh, and yet others are saying that the ref was intimidated by what 3200 or so Stockport fans, must be real baskerville hounds then, and to think that some refs aren't intimidated by 90000 Barca fans insulting them, their mums and about every other close relative.I think a veil of illusion is being drawn over our absolute ineptitude by some happy clappy fans who just can't see that Liebherr hasn't got the job done any more than some unknown punter with a couple of million obtain from a start up enterprise.The bloke at peterborough put up about 8 mill last year, but they got promoted, our guy is supposed to be worth about 2.5 billion yet we've got 3 points from 5 games,even though he's had nigh on 4 million in ST sales and sold players for another 2.9 million.

 

Please tell me you are joking? liebherr is my god at the moment! if it went for him we wouldn't even have a football club' the bloke saved our ass and will get us back to the big time! it just takes fecking time. You lot just think cos he is worth 2.5 bill we should be walking this league! well we ain't and are target this year is to survive relegation!

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Fine. That's a deal. I'll sit. You stand. No problem.

 

If it's free when I arrive, I'll sit behind the goal, towards the back. My choice, as you say. And it's all seating after all. And I have bothered to get there at 2pm. I promise not to moan at anyone "creating an atmosphere". I shall, however, moan at anyone selfish enough to come late and stand right in front of me.

 

And you can stand anywhere you like that's free when you get there - so long as it's not in front of me. The sides are usually pretty empty.

 

Surely you must know by now that all the best fans stand up....

And if you stand it creates a better atmosphere....

 

Supa-dupa fans they are....

[Legod Third Coming]

Fine. That's a deal. I'll sit. You stand. No problem.

 

If it's free when I arrive, I'll sit behind the goal, towards the back. My choice, as you say. And it's all seating after all. And I have bothered to get there at 2pm. I promise not to moan at anyone "creating an atmosphere". I shall, however, moan at anyone selfish enough to come late and stand right in front of me.

 

And you can stand anywhere you like that's free when you get there - so long as it's not in front of me. The sides are usually pretty empty.

 

I'm not being funny, but why not sit at the front?

 

This is like going to the cinema as a midget knowing that the giants are in the queue outside and choosing to sit behind them.

[Saint Since '51]

I'm not being funny, but why not sit at the front?

 

This is like going to the cinema as a midget knowing that the giants are in the queue outside and choosing to sit behind them.

 

Because the view is better at the back - just like the cinema. And, since you mention the cinema...

...Would you think it reasonable for someone to stand in front of you there?

[LostBoys]

I thought Mellis James and Lalana were below par with their final pass into the front men and none of them tracked back and tackled in the last 20 minutes unlike Stockport - no talent and just hard graft. We need a couple of midfield players/wide man

[bungle]

Fine. That's a deal. I'll sit. You stand. No problem.

 

If it's free when I arrive, I'll sit behind the goal, towards the back. My choice, as you say. And it's all seating after all. And I have bothered to get there at 2pm. I promise not to moan at anyone "creating an atmosphere". I shall, however, moan at anyone selfish enough to come late and stand right in front of me.

 

And you can stand anywhere you like that's free when you get there - so long as it's not in front of me. The sides are usually pretty empty.

 

I don't want to stand infront of someone sitting, and I never do. Sounds like you have a problem. Why not just sit 2 rows from the back, the view will be just as good, and there won't be any issues?

[Pat from Poole]

Fine. That's a deal. I'll sit. You stand. No problem.

 

If it's free when I arrive, I'll sit behind the goal, towards the back. My choice, as you say. And it's all seating after all. And I have bothered to get there at 2pm. I promise not to moan at anyone "creating an atmosphere". I shall, however, moan at anyone selfish enough to come late and stand right in front of me.

 

And you can stand anywhere you like that's free when you get there - so long as it's not in front of me. The sides are usually pretty empty.

 

 

Why oh why do you travel all that way to sit with your arms folded and try to prevent fans from trying to create an atmosphere? It's all well and good to say that there's plenty of room at the sides but it's an awful lot easier to get some noise going if you're in the middle, not least when therer's no roof on the away end.

[david in sweden]

We weren't bad today. It was much better. What's got us all a bit down again is the fact that we conceded in the last minute of a game which should have been over 30 mins earlier. They had done their homework and peppered us with crosses at every opportunity throughout the game and it paid off at the death. Sad but it's not the end of the world. We're putting together a half decent team. A couple of additions and a couple of wins and we'll be there.

 

 

It does seem that some people think that buying a new player is just like changing a tyre on the car. Afterwards everything runs perfectly..it doesn't!

 

New players need to get used to each others game, various strengths and weaknesses. The sort of ball they like to play, how they defend etc,

 

GOOD teams take time to develop and AP is just starting to do that.

He wasn't here two months ago and neither was half of the team we fielded on Saturday - it needs time, and maybe two more for the squad before Wednesday morning.

[dune]

The amount of singing was poor, and yes the lack of a roof was a factor, but looking around the stand the real problem is a lack of young adults in our away support nowadays. More families and couples and elderly fans are attending games and hats off to them for staying loyal, but serious questions must be asked of the SWF generation. Reading the whingey posts of the kids on this site leads me to the conclusion that our support in the 16-25 bracket is a real problem. Perhaps the last few years lean years have been a factor because the level of support from the youngsters is poor.

 

This has a knock on affect and impacts on the standing issue. Personally i'd rather stand up, but at the same time i've got respect for my elders and what gives me the right to stand up in front of an elderly person who can't stand up for long periods - it's a pretty c**tish thing to do, but that's just the way i see it.

 

At Stockport i was at the back of the stand with a couple of rows behind and in those rows were middle aged adults so i stood up for periods of the game, but if some old dear had been behind me i'd have consciously made the effort to have some consideration. We're all part of the Saints family and i'd expect most would have the same level of respect.

 

It's all about give and take.

[Delmary]

I was again very impressed with "Rodney" Trottman. He'll become a very good player. Solid at the back, good with his head (although he needs to work on directing the ball with his head), and a calming influence. Without a doubt a crucial part of our team.

 

I've been to Huddersfield, Brentford and Stockport and every game we've improved, but te midfield need to become better in turning our possesion into cutting edge delivery. They worked hard yesterday but there were times when they had time to look up and play the ball more calmly.

 

The club and the team are making progress and deserve our support. I'd urge patience and to ignore the likes of Delldays (who doesn't go to games) because frankly he's clueless. Our support yesterday was large and made up of die hard fans - the club need us to stay behind them and to support them, there's no room for whingeing minnies because all they will achieve is to see us relegated.

 

Before the season started i knew it'd be a struggle, **** me we were gash last last season, so to see the way we're progessing is a good sign. Stick with the lads and we'll survive and next season we'll bounce back up.

The voice of reason! It was always going to take time to turn things around. Like dune I'm remain very positive . We are slowly turning the corner, are financially safe and the future looks very bright. I'm very happy about our prospects.

[surrey1saint]

The voice of reason! It was always going to take time to turn things around. Like dune I'm remain very positive . We are slowly turning the corner, are financially safe and the future looks very bright. I'm very happy about our prospects.

 

Good positive post,at last!

[Legod Third Coming]

Because the view is better at the back - just like the cinema. And, since you mention the cinema...

...Would you think it reasonable for someone to stand in front of you there?

 

No, but then football is not the cinema. The point is, you know people are going to stand, so why sit behind them??

 

I'm not a nutter or a hard core fan, but when I go to away games, I love the fact I can stand up which does make for a better atmosphere - it's just a fact of life.

 

To sit at the back, in the full knowledge that people are going to stand in front of you is madness. If you want the best view, STAND at the back

[Griffo]

I usually do most away games in a season, but I'm getting bored of them now due to our support being mostly sat nowadays and the atmosphere tending to be ****e from us. What do some people get from traveling that far only to sit there in silence and get up and clap when we score? How mind-blowingly boring.

[Legod Third Coming]

I usually do most away games in a season, but I'm getting bored of them now due to our support being mostly sat nowadays and the atmosphere tending to be ****e from us. What do some people get from traveling that far only to sit there in silence and get up and clap when we score? How mind-blowingly boring.

 

But we have too many fans who do the same at SMS!!!!

I have never and will never understand fans who don't want to give their team encouragement. Imagine going to a school sports day and sitting in silence...

[oldsarum]

I usually do most away games in a season, but I'm getting bored of them now due to our support being mostly sat nowadays and the atmosphere tending to be ****e from us. What do some people get from traveling that far only to sit there in silence and get up and clap when we score? How mind-blowingly boring.

 

 

It was difficult to get any atmoshere going in an open end like that but thought those who went did Ok generally

 

Nice to meet Ericofarabia in Crown before the game, yet another great real ale pub.

 

 

On the game front should have finished the game off well before the end, but no copmplaints about their penalty.

 

However couln't understand at the time and stil cna't after watching online and on TV why Saga's goal was disallowed, two derfenders on far post definately played him onside and you can see in thier faces that they thought goal was Ok, Porr poor decision by a poor official.

 

Trotman and Hammond again played wel and Lambert good in the air and unlucky with header that hit bar.

 

But my man of the match was surprisingly Wayne Thomas who has been poor so far at centre half but was supurb at right back particularly we the way he dealt with crosses to the far post.

 

In summary a better performance and I think we are slowly getting there, and many on here should remember Rome wasn't built in a day, we still have a lot of rebuilding work to do, but i'm confident we will get things right in the end, but too many seem to think this will happen overnight.

[Wilko]

Because the view is better at the back - just like the cinema. And, since you mention the cinema...

...Would you think it reasonable for someone to stand in front of you there?

 

You are clearly a right f'in misery guts.

[Jesus Reigned]

Having just watched the brief highlights on BBC I'm now again as angry as I was on Saturday.

 

Saga's "goal" was never off-side; having watched it a few times he was at worst level with the last defender when Lallana miscued his shot.

 

You can also tell from his and Lambert's immediate reactions it was a joke.

 

And the handball against Trottman; he was already in the air anticipating heading the ball when it was flicked-on onto his hand, never in a million years hand to ball or intentional.

 

It tainted my night out in Stockport on Saturday (not the best prospect regardless of the result I admit) and has now f*cked me off all over again!!!

[dune]

It tainted my night out in Stockport on Saturday (not the best prospect regardless of the result I admit)

 

This just brings home how far we've fallen in recent years. What a sh*thole that town was even by Northern standards.

[Jesus Reigned]

This just brings home how far we've fallen in recent years. What a sh*thole that town was even by Northern standards.

 

I will say that they had some good pubs serving good ale, and the locals were very friendly!