St Landrew Posted 28 August, 2009 Share Posted 28 August, 2009 Under a new European football directive, he has become the first player to be caught and cautioned/punished for diving and actively deceiving the referee, overturning a decision made during the Celtic V Arsenal match, which Aresnal won 3-1. Pity they didn't remove the penalty goal as well. Arsene Wenger, who recently admitted to having selective eyesight, e.g. I didn't see Robert Pires leaving his foot [several seasons ago, against Pompey of all teams] to be contacted by fresh air, said it was a witch hunt. He didn't comment that Eduardo was actually cheating. Being selective again, Arsene..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Share Posted 28 August, 2009 I think Arsene has a fair point in some ways...why pick on this moment..? yes, something has to be done but are you telling me that spanish players, Italians were not throwing themselves all over the place this week in the CL qualifiers..? fair play to UEFA but they have set the mark now...the next time anyone dives against an English team, especially in a televised game our press will be all over it like a dirty rash...lets see what happens the next time Ronaldo throws himself all over the place on telly..!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 28 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2009 I forgot to once again call for video evidence, in my initial post. Then we won't have to worry about whether luck evens itself out over a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Share Posted 28 August, 2009 I forgot to once again call for video evidence, in my initial post. Then we won't have to worry about whether luck evens itself out over a season. again..agree..but where does it stop though..that is why it has not been brought in yet.. first it will be for the ball crossing the goal line.. then, add penalties then, add offsides.. you get my drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 28 August, 2009 Share Posted 28 August, 2009 The whole Eduardo leg break situation was a farce anyway. He merely took time off football to concentrate on the Ash/Hannah storyline in Hollyoaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfc90 Posted 3 September, 2009 Share Posted 3 September, 2009 The whole Eduardo leg break situation was a farce anyway. He merely took time off football to concentrate on the Ash/Hannah storyline in Hollyoaks. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 September, 2009 Share Posted 3 September, 2009 Under a new European football directive, he has become the first player to be caught and cautioned/punished for diving and actively deceiving the referee, overturning a decision made during the Celtic V Arsenal match, which Aresnal won 3-1. Pity they didn't remove the penalty goal as well. Arsene Wenger, who recently admitted to having selective eyesight, e.g. I didn't see Robert Pires leaving his foot [several seasons ago, against Pompey of all teams] to be contacted by fresh air, said it was a witch hunt. He didn't comment that Eduardo was actually cheating. Being selective again, Arsene..? For once Wenger has a point. a) I'm not 100% sure it was entirely a dive, yes he went down easily, but I've seen a lot worse. b) It creates precedence, that whenever it is felt that a player dived in such a position, a UEFA panel sits in judgement and gives out a 2 match ban - they'll be very busy. Or is it only if the aggrieved club's football association is well enough connected within UEFA and is able along with the media to kick up enough of a storm? c) If the ref had seen it, Eduardo would have been given a yellow card, because the ref "missed it" he gets a two game ban its ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 September, 2009 Share Posted 3 September, 2009 It's a complete steaming turd of a decision - a proper rotter - arising out of the absurd hysterical reaction of the Scottish FA and the perverse fact that such a joke nation carries quite a lot of influence in UEFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 3 September, 2009 Share Posted 3 September, 2009 If they are to be consistent with this new initiative then within a few week I think the Italian leagues will have to become abandoned due to no players being available for selection We are not the first clubs to have cheating or diving players or who have tapped up players but we seem to be taking the iron fist of punishment straight on the nose. Maybe it's another anti-English agenda, first this, now Chelsea? I know it's a FIFA initiative and not UEFA but our domination of the Champions league has raised a few eyebrows in the corridors of power and Platini has stated he doesn't think it's good for football, maybe he has used his influence on the FIFA committee. After all, there have been plenty of opportunities to have nipped this in the bud but why now and not before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 3 September, 2009 Share Posted 3 September, 2009 For once Wenger has a point. a) I'm not 100% sure it was entirely a dive, yes he went down easily, but I've seen a lot worse. b) It creates precedence, that whenever it is felt that a player dived in such a position, a UEFA panel sits in judgement and gives out a 2 match ban - they'll be very busy. Or is it only if the aggrieved club's football association is well enough connected within UEFA and is able along with the media to kick up enough of a storm? c) If the ref had seen it, Eduardo would have been given a yellow card, because the ref "missed it" he gets a two game ban its ridiculous! You could add: d) Strange how often players who are proved innocent by TV are still punished. e) Incredible to pick on a player who is more likely than most to want to avoid any contact given his awful injury. f) The goalkeeper does not actually have to touch the player, if the intent is there the player is entitled to avoid contact and if that means he goes over in the process then it's a foul. I've watched it many times and still cannot be sure what the truth is but really feel the commentators were totally OTT as was the reaction of the Celtic players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 September, 2009 Share Posted 3 September, 2009 Rooney's pen against Arsenal was more of a dive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 4 September, 2009 Share Posted 4 September, 2009 c) If the ref had seen it, Eduardo would have been given a yellow card, because the ref "missed it" he gets a two game ban its ridiculous! That's the thing that makes this totally stupid. A dive that is spotted at the time is worth a yellow, but a dive that's missed is a two match ban? How do they work that out? If they are going to start dishing out retrospective bans, they'll also have to change the rules so that a dive is a straight red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 September, 2009 Share Posted 4 September, 2009 Well he defintely dived but I wonder why UEFA can act in this instance but failed to rescind Darren Fletcher's red card in last season Cl semi? Will be interesting to see what they do if Ronaldo or Messi dives to win a match winning penalty against a Prem League team in a big CL match - absolutely nothing I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 4 September, 2009 Share Posted 4 September, 2009 That's the thing that makes this totally stupid. A dive that is spotted at the time is worth a yellow, but a dive that's missed is a two match ban? How do they work that out? If they are going to start dishing out retrospective bans, they'll also have to change the rules so that a dive is a straight red. Don't forget the penalty. I know in this instance it didn't really make much difference to the outcome of the game but to give him a yellow card retrospectively while Arsenal still got the penalty on the night seems daft. I would like to see UEFA really clamp down on diving. Surely it is not out of the realms of possibility to have a team review such incidents and hand out punishments afterward. You start giving players two match bans for their first offence, then four, then six, and see how long the diving goes on for. It is cheating and it does my nut in, especially in apparently world class players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 4 September, 2009 Share Posted 4 September, 2009 I forgot to once again call for video evidence, in my initial post. Then we won't have to worry about whether luck evens itself out over a season. it cant even itself over a season when 1 decision is enough to knock any team out of cup matches or Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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