Minty Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1780721,00.html Can't argue with any of that to be honest.
eelpie Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1780721,00.html Can't argue with any of that to be honest. Accept no career as a substitute is good advise, but what does Pards then say to the likes of Bart?
Matthew Le God Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 3rd Tier Football in England is of a much higher standard than in France or infact any country in the world. The amount of money in 3rd tier football in England dwarfs that of other 3rd tier leagues largely due to attendances being significantly higher. I think someone from Southampton F.C. needs to make this point to the French Football Association. Also many French Under 21's will only be on fringes of large teams, Morgan will be a regular with first team football every week.
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 Lower League Football in England is of a much higher standard than in France or infact any country in the world. The amount of money in 3rd tier football in England dwarfs that of other 3rd tier leagues largely due to attendances being significantly higher. I think someone from Southampton F.C. needs to make this point to the French Football Association. Also many French Under 21's will only be on fringes of large teams, Morgan will be a regular with first team football every week. the french (probably rightly) think he will be better off at a higher club with superior coaching etc...
trousers Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1780721,00.html Can't argue with any of that to be honest. "If I was Morgan Schneiderlin, of course I'd be concerned because he's a good player and he wants to play international football. Hopefully the Under-21 coach can clarify that." Dear Alan...they have these in France too: ...just an idea....
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 i stopped reading the article when the club YET AGAIN refered to pardew as the former west ham manager...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 the french (probably rightly) think he will be better off at a higher club with superior coaching etc... In that case they should look beyond the label of "Southampton 3rd tier club". Then they would see Pardew has had success coaching in the Premiership and Southampton as a club has brought through a number of internationals in recent years. Some youth internationals are currently on loan at lower league clubs yet still get called up no real difference between that and being under contract at a lower league club as you are getting coached by them whilst there.
Badger Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 i stopped reading the article when the club YET AGAIN refered to pardew as the former west ham manager... Perhaps trying to gloss over his time at Charlton ?
Northam Girls Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 i stopped reading the article when the club YET AGAIN refered to pardew as the former west ham manager... I didn't stop reading BUT I totally agree it's starting to p me off too - grr But to the point - the more I read what AP is saying the more I feel we are in safe hands not only at board level. He talks a whole lot of sence and isn't affraid to voice opinions that most wouldn't do openly. Ok we have only picked up 2 points this season so far - but I am confident we will get better very quickly once the transfer window closes
sussexsaint Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 Total sense as always - unfortunately nothing whatsoever about getting anyone else in!!
Prince Jazzbo Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 Perhaps trying to gloss over his time at Charlton ? They could also say the former Reading Manager. I dont ever recall Strachan being referred to as the former Coventry manager.
Scudamore Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 "If I was Morgan Schneiderlin, of course I'd be concerned because he's a good player and he wants to play international football. Hopefully the Under-21 coach can clarify that." Dear Alan...they have these in France too: ...just an idea.... They have antique phones in France too? Interesting...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 They could also say the former Reading Manager. I dont ever recall Strachan being referred to as the former Coventry manager. I wonder if they will always refer to lamber at the former gas head..?
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 In that case they should look beyond the label of "Southampton 3rd tier club". Then they would see Pardew has had success coaching in the Premiership and Southampton as a club has brought through a number of internationals in recent years. Some youth internationals are currently on loan at lower league clubs yet still get called up no real difference between that and being under contract at a lower league club as you are getting coached by them whilst there. I think they probably have aspirations of him at a top level club...either in this country or france..maybe italy.. the coaching will be a million times better
Blandford saint Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 I think the "million times better" Delldays is rather an exageration, seeing as many coaches, and managers, such as Pardew, move between Leagues. If Premier League teams thought that the coaching was a million times worse, why would they loan out players to lower league sides? Perhaps, also, it is something to do with actually proving that you can use your skills in a proper match situation to the benefit of the team, don't go missing when the going gets tough, etc. - something Schneiderlin has yet to learn.
Harry Faz Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 Seems the best answer is for him to prove that he is much better than league 1 on the pitch playing for us, big clubs will then come calling for him if he wants off at that point. So do it on the pitch Morgan , and the rest will look after itself.
The9 Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 Pardew gives some interesting examples with Sidwell, Reo-Coker, and less convincingly James Harper and (comically, of course) Hayden Mullins "going on to better things"... but then Mullins went from West Ham reserve to first teamer, before things went bad for him. Not a bad set of players to give as examples, though how much Coppell rather than Pardew did for the Reading players is open to debate. Apart from all that, isn't it nice to have a manager address the issues directly and see it on the OS for once ?
paulwantsapint Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 MS will be a better player after a season or 2 of playing div 3 midfielders week in week out than sitting in champions league team youth team In Pards we trust
InvictaSaint Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 I would just like to know who proof reads the OS articles as they are invariably peppered with typos and spelling mistakes....there are two in the opening paragraph alone. Back off to pedants' corner now.... :-)
eelpie Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 i stopped reading the article when the club YET AGAIN refered to pardew as the former west ham manager... It is annoying. Like why doesn't the OS call Southampton the former Premiership club? Then the balance would be ok.
krissyboy31 Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 i stopped reading the article when the club YET AGAIN refered to pardew as the former west ham manager... Does anyone know whether the articles are written by journalists within the club or are they written centrally by premiertv or whatever they are called now? Might explain it?
Whitey Grandad Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 It is annoying. Like why doesn't the OS call Southampton the former Premiership club? Then the balance would be ok. We are a Premiership club. We just happen to be playing in a lower division.
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2009 Posted 28 August, 2009 I think the "million times better" Delldays is rather an exageration, seeing as many coaches, and managers, such as Pardew, move between Leagues. If Premier League teams thought that the coaching was a million times worse, why would they loan out players to lower league sides? Perhaps, also, it is something to do with actually proving that you can use your skills in a proper match situation to the benefit of the team, don't go missing when the going gets tough, etc. - something Schneiderlin has yet to learn. so in summary...do you think the coaching would be/is better in a premiership set up right now or at saints...dont forget, until a few weeks ago we did not even have a scout..?
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