eelpie Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Oxford English Dictionary argument • noun 1 a heated exchange of diverging or opposite views. 2 a set of reasons given in support of something. ;-) So, nothing wrong in a good argument then. So long as reasons are given. But "he is ****e" is not a reason. It is a statement of imagination, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 29 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2009 According to the OS, Gillet isnt even in the squad. Thank **** for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchris23 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Thank **** for that. J Bizzle, you will have no doubt read that my posts are reasoned, accurate and articuate. I too played at a higher level than I do now, playing in Holland for a Dutch team for two years and now enjoy getting battered by players much better than me in the Hampshire Premier. I too look at the play and not the ball in most circumstances and I too have done my first two coaching badges along with my referees course. For these reasons and these reasons alone, I am right in calling you a sour little c|_|nt. We've all had off days on a football pitch and indeed at work (you'll find out about the latter once you finish your degree in David Beckham). Probably upto one hundred coaches, managers and scouts have looked at Simon in his time with a ball at his feet and rated him better than the next man, so who are you, as a casual observer, to slate not only his performance but also his football qualities? Answer? You're nobody, pretty much like the rest of us, so shut your trap and concentrate on being positive. At 24 (or even 23), Simon may actually read this forum, stranger things have happened, and how do you think he'll respond to being vilified for doing his best? You say you'll make a good manager? Well I am a manager of people and although on many occasions I wish I could say it how I see it, I have to provide encouragement and guidance to 'nuture' and mould the employee/colleague into getting me the result I/the company desires. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Out of that 11, I've only played against Lallana and Mills, but like I said, thats our strongest 11. The strongest 11 can include players that are injured as it's not the match day 11. Well last year I was coaching at Clevedon Town, this year will be at Bristol rovers working with their U18's. I don't expect to be a manager, but I know football and read the game much better than most. When I go to watch a game of football I don't watch where the balls going, I watch the players movement and space opening up. Thats why watching Barcelona and Arsenal is so incredible. If you want me to come up with a team to play stockport, I will. I prefer to play a 433 formation, but due to Schneiderlin probably not having his head in the game today and James having to play RB, i will have to go for 2 in the middle and wide men. -----------------------Davis James----------Trottman---Perry----------Harding ---------------Hammond---Wotton Mellis---------------------------------------lallana -----------------Saganowski ------------------------Lambert That is probably the strongest team we have available for today. Oh dear! Pardew ignored you and left out Wotton, played James in midfield alongside Hammond and Thomas at right back. What a shame that he didn't take your advice, eh, or we might have gained more than the point. When will he ever learn, that when we have someone as qualified on our message board as you, he ought to have consulted with you first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 J Bizzle, you will have no doubt read that my posts are reasoned, accurate and articuate. I too played at a higher level than I do now, playing in Holland for a Dutch team for two years and now enjoy getting battered by players much better than me in the Hampshire Premier. I too look at the play and not the ball in most circumstances and I too have done my first two coaching badges along with my referees course. For these reasons and these reasons alone, I am right in calling you a sour little c|_|nt. We've all had off days on a football pitch and indeed at work (you'll find out about the latter once you finish your degree in David Beckham). Probably upto one hundred coaches, managers and scouts have looked at Simon in his time with a ball at his feet and rated him better than the next man, so who are you, as a casual observer, to slate not only his performance but also his football qualities? Answer? You're nobody, pretty much like the rest of us, so shut your trap and concentrate on being positive. At 24 (or even 23), Simon may actually read this forum, stranger things have happened, and how do you think he'll respond to being vilified for doing his best? You say you'll make a good manager? Well I am a manager of people and although on many occasions I wish I could say it how I see it, I have to provide encouragement and guidance to 'nuture' and mould the employee/colleague into getting me the result I/the company desires. Think about it. So basically no one can say a player is rubbish? oh and it is kind of ironic you spelt articulate wrong...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 So basically no one can say a player is rubbish? oh and it is kind of ironic you spelt articulate wrong...... It is permitted to say that a player is rubbish. Wotton is rubbish. And it isn't ironic that he spelt articulate wrong. Being articulate has nothing to do with ability to spell well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 It is permitted to say that a player is rubbish. Wotton is rubbish. And it isn't ironic that he spelt articulate wrong. Being articulate has nothing to do with ability to spell well. Well it is ironic when you say your posts are accurate and articuate (sic). And yes the post I was replying to was basically saying don't slag off Gillett because he might read this which could be said for any player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Samuel Posted 30 August, 2009 Share Posted 30 August, 2009 Got the match programme from Stockport... "...SIMON GILLETT, although born in Oxford and progressing through the ranks at Southampton, has been capped by Luxembourg." Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 30 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 August, 2009 Got the match programme from Stockport... "...SIMON GILLETT, although born in Oxford and progressing through the ranks at Southampton, has been capped by Luxembourg." Really? With a name like Gillett, he's not going to be English is he? Sounds more French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 August, 2009 Share Posted 30 August, 2009 Showed last night exactly why he hasn't been playing. He is utter ****e, gave it away every time he got it pretty much. Either through poor touch or poor passing. Was completely at fault for their second goal and was a massive weak link when he came on. Can people please stop calling for him to start as he is **** and will not start unless 4/5 players are injured. Yes Ponty, there are such things a typo's. Interesting. Well that certainly explains why he hasnt been selected. Showed some signs of being one of the few Lowe players that should stay, but obviously isnt consistent enough. Another legacy player bites the dust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 August, 2009 Share Posted 30 August, 2009 The fact he was first name on the team sheet shows how bad we were last season. What game were you watching? it was more like 40%, which is ****ing awful.He was at fault for the goal, had he not been ball watching he'd have followed Carsley into the area thus not enabling him a free shot on goal. Harding should have delt with the cross better, but Gillet was not tracking his man (the main reason for the goal). I'm not saying Thomas wasn't at fault, but he is a much better player for us in this division than Gillet is and offers more to the team. Did either of you actually do a count of passes made against passes that failed to reach their destination? Thought not. In that case why use fatuous statistics to support what is merely your impression/ prejudice depending on your point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 31 August, 2009 Share Posted 31 August, 2009 I understand football, I am nearly as qualified as him, I was fast tracked to the UEFA licences and will be doing my 4th and final badge Please stop talking ****. It just gets worse and worse as you go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 31 August, 2009 Share Posted 31 August, 2009 With a name like Gillett, he's not going to be English is he? Sounds more French. A bit like if his name was Panesar, he's not going to be.... oh Hang on On the Gillet thing - I think he is a capable footballer - maybe not a worldbeater but handy to have in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchris23 Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 So basically no one can say a player is rubbish? oh and it is kind of ironic you spelt articulate wrong...... Ahhh, yes. Sorry, I don't bother to spell check on here and my laptop frequently puts the same letter in twwice ;o). I also must not have pressed the key hard enough to miss the 'L' out. However the irony is classic and is one I would have wet myself about had it been someone else! Maybe I should proof-read my posts?! Nonetheless, Wotton is still pony and Gillett offers us so much more. My point was that J Bizzle is a c|_|nt for his poor argument and his 'look at me, I could have been a pro' cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 So basically no one can say a player is rubbish? oh and it is kind of ironic you spelt articulate wrong...... It's not a case of that, Bizzle comes across as a sour litle fecker who didn't make the grade due to his injury. I could've been the best if only I didn't get that injury blah blah blah. I played against Gillett once and had the better of him, I should be the pro. And the latest classic, "I'm nearly as experienced as Pardew". lol Ah yes, ok, you have the coaching badges *apparently*. So now you're as experienced as a pro with the same badges? Does that make a driver who has passed their test today as experienced and as someone who has had their licence for 20 years? Is a soldier who has just passed basic training "as good" as a veteran of the Gulf War who has been in combat situations? Two words spring to mind, bitter and twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 It's not a case of that, Bizzle comes across as a sour litle fecker who didn't make the grade due to his injury. I could've been the best if only I didn't get that injury blah blah blah. I played against Gillett once and had the better of him, I should be the pro. And the latest classic, "I'm nearly as experienced as Pardew". lol Ah yes, ok, you have the coaching badges *apparently*. So now you're as experienced as a pro with the same badges? Does that make a driver who has passed their test today as experienced and as someone who has had their licence for 20 years? Is a soldier who has just passed basic training "as good" as a veteran of the Gulf War who has been in combat situations? Two words spring to mind, bitter and twisted. When Mr Bizzle becomes the next SFC manager (on the back of self promotion) you will not be allowed into SMS for comments like that, how very dare you question his doubted ability to be the greatest manager ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 Out of that 11, I've only played against Lallana and Mills, but like I said, thats our strongest 11. The strongest 11 can include players that are injured as it's not the match day 11. Well last year I was coaching at Clevedon Town, this year will be at Bristol rovers working with their U18's. I don't expect to be a manager, but I know football and read the game much better than most. When I go to watch a game of football I don't watch where the balls going, I watch the players movement and space opening up. Thats why watching Barcelona and Arsenal is so incredible. If you want me to come up with a team to play stockport, I will. I prefer to play a 433 formation, but due to Schneiderlin probably not having his head in the game today and James having to play RB, i will have to go for 2 in the middle and wide men. -----------------------Davis James----------Trottman---Perry----------Harding ---------------Hammond---Wotton Mellis---------------------------------------lallana -----------------Saganowski ------------------------Lambert That is probably the strongest team we have available for today. You know absolutely **** all if you think Wotton is a more effective CM than Gillett. And stop making up stuff about how you're a qualified coach at the age of 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 It's not a case of that, Bizzle comes across as a sour litle fecker who didn't make the grade due to his injury. I could've been the best if only I didn't get that injury blah blah blah. I played against Gillett once and had the better of him, I should be the pro. And the latest classic, "I'm nearly as experienced as Pardew". lol Ah yes, ok, you have the coaching badges *apparently*. So now you're as experienced as a pro with the same badges? Does that make a driver who has passed their test today as experienced and as someone who has had their licence for 20 years? Is a soldier who has just passed basic training "as good" as a veteran of the Gulf War who has been in combat situations? Two words spring to mind, bitter and twisted. Only two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 Petty arguments aside, I agree with what Bizzle is saying in principle. Gillett isn't good enough, hence why he didn't become a regular in the first team until he was about 22 (ie last season), unlike others such as Surman, who broke into the first team earlier than that because they had talent. Talent is the key word here, while Gillett's work rate is certainly admirable, and he is very tenacious, he simply lacks the technical ability to be a capable, first-team regular central midfielder. His passing is bloody awful, he lacks the height to challenge anyone except perhaps a leprechaun aerially and he has no real pace to shout about. In my opinion, he is a back-up for the squad and should be nothing more. If Donny want him, they are quite welcome to him as far as I am concerned, because I feel now that we have Hammond and Mellis (albeit only until January) we have at least 2 better options in the squad, not counting Schneiderlin and Lallana, as well as Gobern, who definately has the talent to be able to make it at this level. But just to contradict everything i've written in the last two paragraphs, he is still a lot better than Wotton, who we need to get rid of ASAP, even if it takes paying off his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 TBF my brother played with Sam Vokes at school and he never thought he would make it to the prem or even champ, even though the teachers thought he was great he always thought josh M who is still as bournemouth is one of the best players he has seen but hes been hampered by injuries. He was proved wrong by vokesy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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