sotonist Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I think AP isnt keen due to his hieght we were a small side last season and AP is trying to change that in this hurly burly league you have to compete physicaly end of The thought occurrs, in case we can't replace murty, could Gillett be groomed to cover right full back rather than James? James is no good at it anyway. Height is not a requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Lots of people use that as an excuse to get rid of players .. like we did with two youngsters we had as teenage apprentices.... ......Kevin Phillips and Dennis Wise ...! ....anyone recall those names ? I think Gillett has lots of potential. You can't condemn him on the strength of a couple of poor sub appearances. Gillett is too small lacks pace and strength to be a very good midfield player in League 1 he is after all 24 not 18. We have better ones at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Showed last night exactly why he hasn't been playing. He is utter ****e, gave it away every time he got it pretty much. Either through poor touch or poor passing. Was completely at fault for their second goal and was a massive weak link when he came on. Can people please stop calling for him to start as he is **** and will not start unless 4/5 players are injured. Yes Ponty, there are such things a typo's. You are such a w*nker. He came on after an hour. He hasn't played for ages. You can't say he is utter ****e on the basis of 20-odd minutes of football when he hasn't played for a while. Why such anger and bitterness Bizzle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 You are such a w*nker. He came on after an hour. He hasn't played for ages. You can't say he is utter ****e on the basis of 20-odd minutes of football when he hasn't played for a while. Why such anger and bitterness Bizzle? people are happy to say rasiak and sagga are shyt when they come on for a few mins..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 people are happy to say rasiak and sagga are shyt when they come on for a few mins..? I've never said that myself. People are happy to anyone is sh*t if they don't live up to their expectations. In this case Bizzle may be right but his tone is very harsh and unfair. Gillet hasn't played in a while and the last times I saw him play at the end of last season I thought he did well. I reckon he deserves a chance at least, he shouldn't be written off on the basis of 1 appearance which lasted about 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Stick to your books cos you are thick if you think Gillett is crap Having played against him, I have more of a say in the matter than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Having played against him, I have more of a say in the matter than you do. For who and when? Just out of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 For who and when? Just out of interest. Pre season friendly, in 2007. Was basically a reserve team with a couple of first teamers thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Pre season friendly, in 2007. Was basically a reserve team with a couple of first teamers thrown in. Who were you playing for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I played against Olly Lancashire once and I'll tell you what, he's f**king top class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 (edited) I played against Olly Lancashire once and I'll tell you what, he's f**king top class. He was a huge prospect, won everything in the air and our strikers struggled to get past him. However he just hasn't progressed and is still playing at that same standard which is about Conference/league 2. Edited 27 August, 2009 by J Bizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Pre season friendly, in 2007. Was basically a reserve team with a couple of first teamers thrown in. Cheers - who were you playing for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Having played against him, I have more of a say in the matter than you do. So if he's so **** Bizzle why is he playing professional football while you're at Uni? Everyone knows how hard is it to make the grade as a pro, he obviously did something right as a youngster while we had lots of good young players coming through. That said, I think all of the *****ing on here is irrelevant, if he were as good as some have said he'd be starting every week, AP obviously begs to differ! Same thing used to be said by the fans when Telfer started every week, GS as a professional saw something we didn't (I'm still not sure what :-D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I'm not saying who i played for. Had it not been for injury, i'd probably still be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I'm not saying who i played for. Had it not been for injury, i'd probably still be there. I don't understand your reluctance to name the side you were playing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I'm not saying who i played for. Had it not been for injury, i'd probably still be there. doesnt make you an expert though does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I'm not saying who i played for. Had it not been for injury, i'd probably still be there. Why won't you say who you played for? It was obviously at a high level so nothing to be ashamed of. What was the injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 So we played Millwall, Lazio, Exeter, Bournemouth and Eastleigh. Which one is it! I'm guessing not Lazio! So lets go for Eastleigh or Bournemouth as I can't see Saints sending out a reserve team against the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 So we played Millwall, Lazio, Exeter, Bournemouth and Eastleigh. Which one is it! I'm guessing not Lazio! So lets go for Eastleigh or Bournemouth as I can't see Saints sending out a reserve team against the others. If I'd played for either of those teams I'd be telling everyone about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Why won't you say who you played for? It was obviously at a high level so nothing to be ashamed of. What was the injury? I don't really like people knowing who I played for. Very rarely mention the team in conversation. Also it's none of those teams. I had a broken T1 (Thorasic), my trapizius had managed to tangle itself around my top rib and torn intercostal muscles + 4 broken ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsforlife7 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Going back to the thread, wasn't the second goal a short corner which we took ages to set up on? Meaning it was everybodys fault they wwern't switched on rather than just being Gillett's fault because he should have been on Carsely, somebody should have closed on him, but they could have laid it to 3-4 others who were open because we were standing around watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 If I'd played for either of those teams I'd be telling everyone about it! Perhaps he wont say, as it might be revealed that he came on in the 89 minute and Gillett was subbed on 90? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I don't really like people knowing who I played for. Very rarely mention the team in conversation. Also it's none of those teams. I had a broken T1 (Thorasic), my trapizius had managed to tangle itself around my top rib and torn intercostal muscles + 4 broken ribs. Ooh nasty, how did you manage that? Why don't you like people knowing who you played for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Showed last night exactly why he hasn't been playing. He is utter ****e, gave it away every time he got it pretty much. Either through poor touch or poor passing. Was completely at fault for their second goal and was a massive weak link when he came on. Can people please stop calling for him to start as he is **** and will not start unless 4/5 players are injured. Yes Ponty, there are such things a typo's. Well, you certainly aren't going to win any popularity contests after spouting that load of old bilge. I am hesitant of the need to offer any sort of defence of the boy because that would stoop to dignify the utter garbage that you have written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Perhaps he wont say, as it might be revealed that he came on in the 89 minute and Gillett was subbed on 90? Played the full 90 actually. And I did it when I went up for a header and landed on my chest after some **** went through me in the air spinning me 180 degrees. Also it wasn't a corner, it was a ball in from the right and gillet was 40 yards out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Played the full 90 actually. And I did it when I went up for a header and landed on my chest after some **** went through me in the air spinning me 180 degrees. Also it wasn't a corner, it was a ball in from the right and gillet was 40 yards out of position. I hate to be cynical cos I actually want to believe you, but if you can't even name the team you played for you're clearly talking b*llocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Can we have a bit more respect for Bizzle please. He says he played against Saints and that he averages 94% in his degree at Bristol Uni and I think I, for one, believe him. There's no need for people to start doubting his veracity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I thought Gillett lost the ball in midfield to give the ball to B'ham leading up to the first goal but I dont think he will be first choice this season now that Hammond is here In fact that is incorrect. Thomas a Wreckit made a woefully short panic pass to the midfield when there was no Saints player anywhere near. Simon Gillett tried to get to the ball but couldn't get hold of it and it was lsot to Brum. Thomas was the culprit. Next time you watch I suggest you pay more attention to detail and see CAUSES and not SYMPTOMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Can we have a bit more respect for Bizzle please. He says he played against Saints and that he averages 94% in his degree at Bristol Uni and I think I, for one, believe him. There's no need for people to start doubting his veracity. You're right I should never have doubted him. It's understandable that he doesn't want to tell an anonymous internet chat forum which team he used to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDARMY79 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I played in the 66 world cup final and Beckenbauer was c rap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Barring several injuries, I doubt Gillett will get much time on the pitch in the next ten or so games. Hammond and Schneiderlin seem to be the first choice, with James (especially if a loan replacement is brought in for Murty) and Wotton higher up the pecking order than Gillett. (In support of this argument, I am and have always been crap at footy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I am suprised, I thought Gillett was going to be a key player for us this year and I thought it was really important that we kept him, but Pardew clearly doesn't seem to rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I am suprised, I thought Gillett was going to be a key player for us this year and I thought it was really important that we kept him, but Pardew clearly doesn't seem to rate him. He hasn't given him a chance though. He should at least start him instead of Wotton and see how he does. It can't be any worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I wasn't at the game last night so I bow to your superior knowledge (if not spelling ) However he has had good games and don't think he is without skill just maybe not consistency IMO Same here. I was not at the game so cannot comment on whether he had a good few minutes on the pitch or not. Without games players lose confidence, like happened with Bart, Smith before him, and countless other examples, and at a youngish age skills are not developed. We do have a problem in bridging the gap between Academy promise and real first team success. I hope Pards can do this better than previous regimes. I agree that Gillett does not have the natural skills of Schneiderlin and Lallana, but last season when we had no other choices he showed guts, spirit and energy. (If my memory serves me right he was man of the match several times or close to that, as voted by this forum) There are many 'Lowe-legacy' players that need to be re-schooled in the football arts. Gillett, Ollie and a few others need to be out on loan in League 2 for obvious reasons, IF they are not currently doing a job for us well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 You're right I should never have doubted him. It's understandable that he doesn't want to tell an anonymous internet chat forum which team he used to play for. Don't believe me then, I honestly couldn't give a toss if you don't. I know I played at that standard, but can't now. I got injured, can't play at that level so play for a ****ty wessex league team now when i'm back from uni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I played against Aston Villa and average 95% in my degree, and I think Gillett is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Don't believe me then, I honestly couldn't give a toss if you don't. I know I played at that standard, but can't now. I got injured, can't play at that level so play for a ****ty wessex league team now when i'm back from uni. To be honest it makes no difference to me what team 'J Bizzle' off the saints forum did or didn't play for. It's not exactly hard to make things up on the internet, the real question is why would you? Anyway you claim to have played against Simon Gillett and that you are well placed to judge his ability even though he plays at a much higher level than you ever could. That's why it is vaguely relevant. If you had played at that level though I would imagine you would have more sense than to write off a decent player on the basis of a 20-minute appearance after a long spell on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Don't believe me then, I honestly couldn't give a toss if you don't. I know I played at that standard, but can't now. I got injured, can't play at that level so play for a ****ty wessex league team now when i'm back from uni. Michelmersh and Timsbury reserves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Michelmersh and Timsbury reserves? Do they have access to the internet out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 there is no gettign away fromthe fact that at times his first touch lets him down and because he plays in that area just in front of the back four, when it does it puts us in serious danger. Its not allt he time, just once or twice, but overall his touch is not quite up to standard. Having said that he makes up for it compared to Wotton in the speed he gets around the park. He was excellent sweeping in front of the back four last season and we missed him badly when he got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4INT Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Ridiculous thread... he played about half an hour hardly played so far this season and imo was one of, if not our best player last season in a better league so much better than that shower of sh*te wotton... Yup. Are their highlights of the game anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Methinks that Brizzle Bizzle might have played for the Blue Few Yoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Methinks that Brizzle Bizzle might have played for the Blue Few Yoof. And probably got made to look a c*** by Gillett, hence the mentally scarred life he now leads!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Michelmersh and Timsbury reserves? God no, played a couple of games for mottisfont though when coming back from injury, before going on to said wessex league side. Seriously, why would I make this up??? And I wouldn't have played against him when I Was in the youth. I'm 5 years younger than him. Which goes to show he really doesn't have potential. I'm sure people will be saying he has potential to be a good player when he hits 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 God no, played a couple of games for mottisfont though when coming back from injury, before going on to said wessex league side. Seriously, why would I make this up??? And I wouldn't have played against him when I Was in the youth. I'm 5 years younger than him. Which goes to show he really doesn't have potential. I'm sure people will be saying he has potential to be a good player when he hits 30. There are several notable examples of players who did not realise their potentail until much later in their careers. Ian Wright and Kevin Phillips immediately spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 He was a huge prospect, won everything in the air and our strikers struggled to get past him. However he just hasn't progressed and is still playing at that same standard which is about Conference/league 2. This has much to do with being rushed into a very poor first team defence without adequate professional mentoring (imho). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 This has much to do with being rushed into a very poor first team defence without adequate professional mentoring (imho). Rushed?? he's 24, been out on loana couple of times. He was given plenty of time to progress, but hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 agree....24 years old is approaching your prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Also I remember a couple of years back, I said that Kenwyne Jones would be quality for us and got absolutely shut down by nearly everyone on the forum. Look now, I was right. Others who knew football could see the potential in him, Gillet does not and nver had that. Similar to Mcgoldrick who will go on to become a Premier league striker, just needs to work a bit on his composure. Which will take a season or two in a good side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I think Gillett has considerable potential and will come good. he showed last year he is prepared to battle unlike some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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