saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 Old bill confirm a man was stabbed in the chest before the game, in what their calling organised fighting. No suprises there then
Thedelldays Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 apparently it is some of the worst trouble in god knows how many years.... 1000 coppers loads in riot gear etc PWOPER NAWTY
Hatch Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 makes no sense, you don't get away with it anymore. Dawn raids months after , following cctv evidence and so on
Thedelldays Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 (edited) loads of trouble going on while the game is on....fans trying to get at each other and spilling onto the pitch.. mental EDIT all spilling onto the pitch..police and stewards going in to the west ham end... Edited 25 August, 2009 by Thedelldays
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Author Posted 25 August, 2009 They really don't like each other do they
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 they're saying the game may have to be called off fans running onto pitch
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Author Posted 25 August, 2009 Spilling on to the pitch now. Oh WH have scored. Extra time. Woops
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 Sounds like it's more West ham fans than millwall tbf
Thedelldays Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 Spilling on to the pitch now. Oh WH have scored. Extra time. Woops lol and seats being thrown onto the pitch... it is going to be farking carnage after the game
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Author Posted 25 August, 2009 lol and seats being thrown onto the pitch... it is going to be farking carnage after the game Not one to take the nippers to I think
chrisobee Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 Old bill confirm a man was stabbed in the chest before the game, in what their calling organised fighting. No suprises there then What I said TBH ! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16190
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 WHU just went 2-1 up.....west ham fans come onto the pitch and goad the millwall players. Pointless Players being taken off pitch. Sounds like it's the west ham fans who are the real morons here
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Author Posted 25 August, 2009 Millwall players leaving the field after being goaded by WH fans who ran on the pitch after the second goal
chrisobee Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 This is really going back to the bad old days, I think we all said when the draw was made the Police would not be happy but this is far worse than I imagined.
chrisobee Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 West Ham should be booted out as the home team and it seems thay are the major culprits though I'm sure they'll be a full enquiry. Any odds on West Ham having to play a few games behind closed doors ?
Nexstar Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 No away fans at this fixture cancels any trouble inside the ground.
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Author Posted 25 August, 2009 It's going to go ape after the game What a shame it's got to this
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2009 Author Posted 25 August, 2009 No away fans at this fixture cancels any trouble inside the ground. Awfull lot of trouble outside aswel. I think I heard not many tickets were made available fir the Millwall fans anyway
equalizer Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 There goes our 2018 world cup bid There goes Poopey's 40000 seater stadium!
chrisobee Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 Awfull lot of trouble outside aswel. I think I heard not many tickets were made available fir the Millwall fans anyway Trouble is that those Millwall "fans" who want a ticket will find a way to get one especially when the clubs are so close. I just wonder though how this happens inside the ground, not enough police I suspect though TBH 1 per fan would probably just about have been enough.
Thedelldays Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 There goes Poopey's 40000 seater stadium! Every cloud and all that
stockportsaint Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 My old boss is a West Ham fan and told me (quite proudly I thought) that the first ever (hooligan-related) death at a British football match was a Millwall fan at West Ham. I have never researched this myself but it's probably true. No surprise there was trouble really, this should surely have been made a special case and played on a Sunday morning or similar. Would be nice if Millwall got a points deduction, but I can't see it happening myself.
sotonswan Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 FAW will probably punish Swansea more for tonight than Millwall or West Ham will be. Swans down to 6 men (inc 2 injuries)!! Game will possibly be called off any minute now. Farce. Ref totally lost control.
chrisobee Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 (edited) FAW will probably punish Swansea more for tonight than Millwall or West Ham will be. Swans down to 6 men (inc 2 injuries)!! Game will possibly be called off any minute now. Farce. Ref totally lost control. Eh, you have to call off the game if one team has less than 7 men !! WTH happened ? Ok, this happened ! http://www.swanseacity.net/page/MatchReport/0,,10354~50639,00.html Players red carded: 85 minutes Garry Monk 110 minutes approx Gorka Pintado closely followed by Angel Rangel ( ironic name!) At this point Swansea had already lost one player injured having used all 3 subs. However, I think they finished with 7. I love the final paragraph of the report : Tempers flared during the closing stages ( really, no kidding !) but S****horpe held on. Oh I hope I get to see the highlights ! Poor old Nathan Dyer was one of the 7 still standing I think lol Edited 25 August, 2009 by chrisobee
Flyer Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 We had the ref on Saturday, he was awful. Our player robbed their keeper 40 yards out and instead of a red card, he gave them an offside. As we tried to take the FK, their player sprinted full on and rugby tackled the taker to the ground, no red, no yellow. Nothing. He didnt actually know the rules and guessed most decisions.
maxi_sopez Posted 25 August, 2009 Posted 25 August, 2009 spoke to my mate who was there who is a hammer said the west ham fans were so livid cos the milwall fans were constantly chanting to collison about is dead dad.....
saint_bert Posted 26 August, 2009 Author Posted 26 August, 2009 spoke to my mate who was there who is a hammer said the west ham fans were so livid cos the milwall fans were constantly chanting to collison about is dead dad..... Bit rich, seeing as the WH fans had no problem letting Jermaine Defoe what they thought about his brother passing away when they played spuds Sunday
Mao Cap Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 Oh Lordy, I can feel the tidal wave of sanctimonious "WE R GOING BAK TO DA BAD OLE DAYZ1!11" drivel from clueless newspaper/radio/TV pundits gathering force as we speak...
Master Bates Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 Don't agree that we're going back to the bad old days. It was a disgrace what happened, however luckily a one off. Unless West Ham get relegated and Millwall get promoted.
saint_bert Posted 26 August, 2009 Author Posted 26 August, 2009 I've been on a WH forum and their saying the bloke who got stabbed is a top firm guy. Also anyone who says were back to the old days, clearly does not go to football on a match day
scott_saints Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 The fact that this is such big news (even without the stabbing it would have been), shows how far we've come since the "old days".
Huntingdon Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 I'm a middle-aged man now, but sometimes I miss those 80's away days I have a bump on my nose from having it broken in 1985 10 of us got ambushed coming out of Seven Sisters underground by a load of Spurs fans, the police didn't even bother arresting people then, they just broke up the fight Great memories
Thedelldays Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 (edited) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/8221590.stm not a great deal of violence in that clip..? was as bad..? are people over reacting..? seen worse on a week night a fratton.. Just seen "shocking" pictures on SSN from someone camcorder...!!! it was a load of west ham fans singing sit down if you hate millwall...then singing stand up if you hate millwall.. then a lot of posturing then a bin was thrown.. I think there is alot of over reacting here.... Edited 26 August, 2009 by Thedelldays
jeff leopard Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 I'm a middle-aged man now, but sometimes I miss those 80's away days. Great memories Jesus Christ on a bike... (speechless) You've got to hit the fans were it hurts (metaphorically), kick them both out of the competition and dock them points. Then see how much they like reliving the 'glory days' of the 70s and 80s. t w a t s
Dog Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvEedjL8dwY West Ham outside their main pub, waiting for millwall to arrive. By that time, most of the real damage was done.
Thedelldays Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 There goes our 2018 world cup bid lets be honest...i dounbt this one off will have much or any bearing on us getting the world cup in 9 years time
Wade Garrett Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 I've been on a WH forum and their saying the bloke who got stabbed is a top firm guy. Also anyone who says were back to the old days, clearly does not go to football on a match day Every cloud. At least it wasn't an innocent bystander. Scum, the lot of them. Whoever are drawn against West Ham in the next round should get a bye. Heavy-handed punishments for all involved is necessary in order to nip this bullsh*t in the bud. Don't really see how it should affect our World Cup bid. Hooliganism is far worse across the continent, and South Africa is the murder capital of the world.
GenevaSaint Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 Good. On what basis is that good? Not that I think it will be affected.
saint_bert Posted 26 August, 2009 Author Posted 26 August, 2009 (edited) lets be honest...i dounbt this one off will have much or any bearing on us getting the world cup in 9 years time In fairness I did write that in the heat of it all last night. Your right of course that it should not effect the overall view by Fifa towards Englands bid. What is getting me really annoyed though is how people I have spoke too, seem to think that this is a "new" thing. That it died in the 80's Only have to look on the main board pretty much every Monday to see a trouble after the game thread. Last season there was fighting in the ground between fans/ stewerds etc People shouldn't ostricise (sp?) themselves to it Edited 26 August, 2009 by saint_bert Ruddy iPhone
Thedelldays Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 agree Bert.. it looked bad but there have only been 13 arrests so far... and the scenes in the ground were mostly idiots running on the pitch...again, happens quite often..even here at SMS..remember pride park in the playoffs.. I think the media are making this all far worse than it really is...well, maybe that is the point and want to shock people etc...
Sour Mash Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 On what basis is that good? Not that I think it will be affected. A world cup in this country would just provide a further opportunity for the continued over-commercialisation of football, more shiny plastic new grounds, over priced tickets and a stupid amount of hype, with everyone and anyone jumping on the bandwagon. Also much more fun watching England in some far flung corner of the globe. Agree with you that last night's "events" won't make a difference though.
Wade Garrett Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 A world cup in this country would just provide a further opportunity for the continued over-commercialisation of football, more shiny plastic new grounds, over priced tickets and a stupid amount of hype, with everyone and anyone jumping on the bandwagon. Also much more fun watching England in some far flung corner of the globe. Agree with you that last night's "events" won't make a difference though. So are you saying that a World Cup in another country won't be over-commercialised, will be played in old stadiums, have cheaper tickets and little hype?
Sour Mash Posted 26 August, 2009 Posted 26 August, 2009 So are you saying that a World Cup in another country won't be over-commercialised, will be played in old stadiums, have cheaper tickets and little hype? Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. But if it does over commercialise, it affects that country's football and not the English game. England is already the most expensive place in the world to watch top level football, can you imagine for world cup games? Plus I'd much rather watch England or even a neutral game in a foreign city than Birmingham, Wembley or dare I say it Skatesmouth. Would be an interesting case to argue how much the hosts of recent tournaments have "benefited" from hosting the world cup or euros?
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