Ponty Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Just put the bi-polar troll on ignore and if everyone else would stop quoting him life would be so much better. The mentally ill shouldn't really be given access to the internet. That's enough, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 I agree Wes and therefore as a hero IMO he is somewhat flawed a wasted talent even though to prove it, it would have been at our expense. A bit like a top class athlete refusing to travel to a distant Olympics to prove his ability because it's to far from home. I have never underplayed MLT's contribtion or ability just doubt his suitability as our No 1 player and a football legend given the title of his book and interviews yesterday my opinion hadn't changed. I wouldn't have minded him leaving to prove he was world class because he would still have been a great player for us and probably the greatest. No different than the way we champion Channon, Ball or Keegan and others. Finally, you will note I have never asked questions or challenged the status of Ted Bates which you seem to overlook when you mention the likes of Crouch and McMenemy. Comes down to respect and a hero has to be one you feel has given their all. Your analogy about the top class athlete refusing to travel to a distant Olympics bears little weight. MLT was playing in the top league in World football at the time and was capable of putting goals past some of the best defenders and goalkeepers in the World, many of whom were well-known Internationals at the time. No, you have never challenged the status of Ted Bates, nor have you expressed any opinion of any of the other managers who preceded him either. So what? But where is the answer to the prefectly reasonable question I asked? Why do you spend so much time slagging off those held in the highest esteem by the majority of Saints fans, but never balance it by criticism of the one person who has done more damage to the club than anybody else in its history, one Rupert Lowe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 No just honest and not frightened to say what I really think. So because your views are diametrically opposed to everyone elses, you think that all other posters are either:- a) Not saying what they really think b) Always wrong or c) Secretly agree with you but are scared to say so. Which is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Your analogy about the top class athlete refusing to travel to a distant Olympics bears little weight. MLT was playing in the top league in World football at the time and was capable of putting goals past some of the best defenders and goalkeepers in the World, many of whom were well-known Internationals at the time. No, you have never challenged the status of Ted Bates, nor have you expressed any opinion of any of the other managers who preceded him either. So what? But where is the answer to the prefectly reasonable question I asked? Why do you spend so much time slagging off those held in the highest esteem by the majority of Saints fans, but never balance it by criticism of the one person who has done more damage to the club than anybody else in its history, one Rupert Lowe? MLT also answered the "unambitious" question yesterday. He said that he always had two ambitions. One was to be a pro footballer and the other was to play for England, and he achieved them both. Not all people have ambitions to rule the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Your analogy about the top class athlete refusing to travel to a distant Olympics bears little weight. MLT was playing in the top league in World football at the time and was capable of putting goals past some of the best defenders and goalkeepers in the World, many of whom were well-known Internationals at the time. No, you have never challenged the status of Ted Bates, nor have you expressed any opinion of any of the other managers who preceded him either. So what? But where is the answer to the prefectly reasonable question I asked? Why do you spend so much time slagging off those held in the highest esteem by the majority of Saints fans, but never balance it by criticism of the one person who has done more damage to the club than anybody else in its history, one Rupert Lowe?[/QUOTE] Wes there is a long answer to this and as you know my views well I am not going to be pulled into a diversionary debate, our discussions alone on the way forward for the executive mgmt of the club prior to admin last season showed what could have been done even with two highly opposed views. I will though sum up my answer in one word; balance. You're intelligent enough to know what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 So because your views are diametrically opposed to everyone elses, you think that all other posters are either:- a) Not saying what they really think b) Always wrong or c) Secretly agree with you but are scared to say so. Which is it?? a) sometimes IMO b) Not always IMO c) sometimes - I have pm's to that effect from quite a few people. or d) the many fans who do not use the forum and who out number us by at least 10 to 1 and whose views are perhaps a little less passionate shall we say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Why do you spend so much time slagging off those held in the highest esteem by the majority of Saints fans, but never balance it by criticism of the one person who has done more damage to the club than anybody else in its history, one Rupert Lowe? I will though sum up my answer in one word; balance. So, let's get to the point. Your posts are imbalanced for the purposes of balance? Are you the Mint card of SWF (see http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename=TA0280) and thus restoring the clever / dumb balance of this fine forum? I suppose someone needs to cover the dumb side of the equation.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 a) sometimes IMO b) Not always IMO c) sometimes - I have pm's to that effect from quite a few people. or d) the many fans who do not use the forum and who out number us by at least 10 to 1 and whose views are perhaps a little less passionate shall we say. Similar to Lowes letter at the AGM then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Similar to Lowes letter at the AGM then? LOL - as long as you are not going to play the Crouch I'm going to have a hissy fit at an AGM role, that was a Mertonesque reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 That's enough, thanks. Behave yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Your analogy about the top class athlete refusing to travel to a distant Olympics bears little weight. MLT was playing in the top league in World football at the time and was capable of putting goals past some of the best defenders and goalkeepers in the World, many of whom were well-known Internationals at the time. No, you have never challenged the status of Ted Bates, nor have you expressed any opinion of any of the other managers who preceded him either. So what? But where is the answer to the prefectly reasonable question I asked? Why do you spend so much time slagging off those held in the highest esteem by the majority of Saints fans, but never balance it by criticism of the one person who has done more damage to the club than anybody else in its history, one Rupert Lowe?[/QUOTE] Wes there is a long answer to this and as you know my views well I am not going to be pulled into a diversionary debate, our discussions alone on the way forward for the executive mgmt of the club prior to admin last season showed what could have been done even with two highly opposed views. I will though sum up my answer in one word; balance. You're intelligent enough to know what I am talking about. But where is the balance? I see none at all. I am here to express my opinion that after you have spouted forth on the subjects of Crouch, Pearson, MLT, Lawrie McMenemy on more than a few occasions, I am willing to wager that every regular contributor to this site is perfectly attuned to your thoughts on those people. Let's put it to the test, shall we? All those who do not know what Nineteen's thoughts are on MLT, Crouch, Pearson and McMenemy are and would like to hear them, please say "Aye" Can I take it that if there are not many "Ayes" you will kindly desist in beating the same drum ad nauseum? If there is just a handful of Ayes, you can PM your thoughts to them, so that you do not have to bore the rest of us already in the know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 So, let's get to the point. Your posts are imbalanced for the purposes of balance? Are you the Mint card of SWF (see http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename=TA0280) and thus restoring the clever / dumb balance of this fine forum? I suppose someone needs to cover the dumb side of the equation.:rolleyes: and why not you do that role on the motoring forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 c) sometimes - I have pm's to that effect from quite a few people; Sundance Beast, Flashman, Fourth Bear by any chance? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 But where is the balance? I see none at all. I am here to express my opinion that after you have spouted forth on the subjects of Crouch, Pearson, MLT, Lawrie McMenemy on more than a few occasions, I am willing to wager that every regular contributor to this site is perfectly attuned to your thoughts on those people. Let's put it to the test, shall we? All those who do not know what Nineteen's thoughts are on MLT, Crouch, Pearson and McMenemy are and would like to hear them, please say "Aye" Can I take it that if there are not many "Ayes" you will kindly desist in beating the same drum ad nauseum? If there is just a handful of Ayes, you can PM your thoughts to them, so that you do not have to bore the rest of us already in the know. Careful Wes when you strat talking about boring people ad nauseum. I give out an olive branch and you're back on the insults if we did what you suggest in your last sentence no one would post. We all love Saints and everything it. agreed? Yes, right lets all **** off to the Muppet show and look at tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 ... No doubt if I had access to their inbox their would be many more messages of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 No doubt if I had access to their inbox their would be many more messages of support. Well as you were banned under them, I assume you no longer have access to their inbox :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 No just honest and not frightened to say what I really think.NC you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that.YOu are touching a nerve and so as you expect will get lots of abuse. I feel sad that you have this attitude toward MLT. You must have missed out on the buzz when he had the ball, that you didnt quite know what bit of magic may be conjured up next.Im not the easiest person to be won over but MLT did it and i still adore his playing skills. Yes he had faults, yes he didnt work or chase but what he did the times he had the ball was worth every penny i ever spent going to watch him. Sir Alex said that if he hadn't had Cantona he would have bought MLT and that a player who scored so many goals in a poor side was exceptional. By his nature money is not the afrodisiac, it is happiness and many may not understnd that, I do.I will never forgive graham Taylor and LM regime when in charge of England in playing Geoff Thomas and Carlton palmer instead of Matt and still smile at the dross that was served up under them in the name of English football. MLT did himself a disservice by staying loyal to us, we were as football fans deprived of what he really could have done had been in a team of winners with ability at one of the top clubs. MLT is still a footballing god in my eyes and he is appreciated by fans of football worldwide. As for his attempts to be chairman etc then perhaps you have a point but please leave off the criicism of the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Copy of PM sent to Nineteen Canteen, which has come into my hands. My dear Nineteen, It is incumbent on me to express my heartfelt gratitude for the stirling work that you have done on my behalf, both before and after those sad events that ultimately led to my departure. I also thank you for your kind opinions that the club didn't deserve somebody of my obvious talents and the supporters will live to regret the part that they played in my departure through their blind ignorance and stupidity. I was grateful to you, penning that anonymous letter that I was able to read out at the AGM, although with hindsight it might have been better to have put a name to it, as everybody thought somehow that I had written it myself. What bizarre reasoning processes some of these people must have! Surely they could not think that somebody with my humility, modesty and integrity could be capable of such subterfuge. Anyway, as you were so kind as to pen that letter, I was indebted to you, so when I received your request to provide me with some PMs expressing agreement with your criticism of that insect Crouch, that freeloading has-been McEnemy and that lazy sod Le Tissier, I thought it was the least I could do for you, old boy. I have also copied this to Guy, Mike, David, etc, instructing them that I want to see copies of their PMs before forwarding to you. Now that I have a lot less to do with my life, I spend many happy hours reading your work, antagonising those Neanderhals on the fans' websites. Keep up the good work. My best regards also to your family Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 I don't understand why so many of you complain about NC's perceived trolling but then carry on poking him with a metaphorical stick, regardless. Unfathomable, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2009 What a hero, only Saints could have a self confessed under achiever as their legend. The more he talked the more I felt cheated that he had a lot more to give and the big sigh prior to the Pinnacle question being finished spoke volumes and he was lucky Mayo wasn't interested in pursuing it as any of us could have answered that question the way MLT did IMO. Good to know though he is still great friends with Lynam which IMO I found surprising. MLT admitted he never put the two words hard and work together. A trait that I guess he carried over into his bid to be chairman IMO. He then went on and said that he didn't like the thought of the 24/7 culture which begs the question why the endorse the bid in the first place? Judging by his comments we had a very lucky escape because if he had become chairman he has admitted they were only focussing on ex-saints for 'box office appeal' lol. I like Iain Dowie but really box office appeal and Keegan would have lasted half a season before the hissy fits started and Shearer is a law unto himself and no one rates himself more highly than Shearer himself - bit like a few glass housed posters on this forum. As for WGS....another Scotland manager in waiting and a manager who needs money and lots of it just to beat Rangers IMO. I thought MLT's assessment of his England career spoke volumes about why he didn't make it. He mentioned that under Ball the team were told to give him the ball at every opportunity and he was scoring 30 goals a season or thereabouts but at International level that wasn't the case, he didn't get the ball so much - doh! He countered if he had gone to a bigger club for international owners and only scored 15 goals why couldn't an England manager pick him at a smaller club scoring 30 goals. He isn't the sharpest is he? Playing at a bigger club as at international level he would see less of the ball but his game and fitness would have improved and his goals been harder earned. Sad contradiction and showed how unambitious he was even playing for us and clearly wasn't willing to up his effort with us or listen to his coaches. Perhaps England managers felt that with his role as the hub of the team he should be scoring even more or working a little harder . At the end of both interviews I felt that Matt Le Tissier had short changed us fans and more importantly himself and perhaps that's where the title of the book comes into it. Perhaps his epitaph should be 'Paul Telfer a decent player' but I ca't help thinking of the old Ian Drury song 'What a Waste' and left thinking how great he could have been as a player and the relief we must feel he is not chairman given his comments today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Copy of PM sent to Nineteen Canteen, which has come into my hands. My dear Nineteen, It is incumbent on me to express my heartfelt gratitude for the stirling work that you have done on my behalf, both before and after those sad events that ultimately led to my departure. I also thank you for your kind opinions that the club didn't deserve somebody of my obvious talents and the supporters will live to regret the part that they played in my departure through their blind ignorance and stupidity. I was grateful to you, penning that anonymous letter that I was able to read out at the AGM, although with hindsight it might have been better to have put a name to it, as everybody thought somehow that I had written it myself. What bizarre reasoning processes some of these people must have! Surely they could not think that somebody with my humility, modesty and integrity could be capable of such subterfuge. Anyway, as you were so kind as to pen that letter, I was indebted to you, so when I received your request to provide me with some PMs expressing agreement with your criticism of that insect Crouch, that freeloading has-been McEnemy and that lazy sod Le Tissier, I thought it was the least I could do for you, old boy. I have also copied this to Guy, Mike, David, etc, instructing them that I want to see copies of their PMs before forwarding to you. Now that I have a lot less to do with my life, I spend many happy hours reading your work, antagonising those Neanderhals on the fans' websites. Keep up the good work. My best regards also to your family Rupert. Most amusing But perhaps the word "insect" might attribute the letter towards the poster known as "Scooby" Strange there was no mention of the lunatic fringe either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Most amusing But perhaps the word "insect" might attribute the letter towards the poster known as "Scooby" Strange there was no mention of the lunatic fringe either. Ah, yes, but Scoobie was listed as his friend. Boot Boy was also one of his epithets for Pearson and 19 borrowed that too. I should have insinuated some parable about the Klingons into my PM too. I'm slipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 I don't understand why so many of you complain about NC's perceived trolling but then carry on poking him with a metaphorical stick, regardless. Unfathomable, IMO. The problem is, Ponty, that he is very good at what he does. He is able to press all of the right buttons to get a reaction and he does it in such a way that he cleverly stays within the forum rules and then plays the victim. I would put him on "ignore" but he upsets so many people that you can`t avoid him being quoted by others. I have tried not responding but he does what he does well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2009 I don't understand why so many of you complain about NC's perceived trolling but then carry on poking him with a metaphorical stick, regardless. Unfathomable, IMO. For fun. Rather injudicious use of "perceived" there, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Ah, yes, but Scoobie was listed as his friend. Boot Boy was also one of his epithets for Pearson and 19 borrowed that too. I should have insinuated some parable about the Klingons into my PM too. I'm slipping. Ah I see - Another friend re-united (perhaps into one) Perhaps mention to the vineyards of naboth too next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Most amusing But perhaps the word "insect" might attribute the letter towards the poster known as "Scooby" Strange there was no mention of the lunatic fringe either. Be careful! We`ve already had one hair - pun based thread closed. We don`t want another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Well as you were banned under them, I assume you no longer have access to their inbox :rolleyes: Who's the bullshtter, Ponty or Nineteen Canteen???? Ponty's told us he was banned as Sundance, before being allowed to re-register under Nineteen. So Ponty, have you been lying or is the resident loon stringing us all along;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 (edited) Laughable, take a look at my post history...... No thanks , for some inexplicable reason the prospect of revisiting your collected wind-ups leaves be somewhat 'unenthused' . As for me needing help I'll just let the rest of the forum make up their own minds as to who is the more suitable case for treatment here . But I'll not join in with the widely held opinion that you should be banned , In my view the kind of comedy value you add on here is quite priceless and indeed unique - please continue , it's rare you find a grown man (I presume) quite as transparent as you are . Edited 26 August, 2009 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 I don't understand why so many of you complain about NC's perceived trolling but then carry on poking him with a metaphorical stick, regardless. Unfathomable, IMO. Right back at you. Either it is trolling or it isn't. And you should know. If it is, then you should surely ban him. If it isn't, then we should engage with him, surely - otherwise what's the point of a message board? And don't you really think that his latest fixation - the trashing of MLT - deserves some sort of comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Michael Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Back to the thread's original subject, I know there will be many Le Tiss interviews around at the moment, but just in case you're interested, here's ours (I work for the Orange web and wap site): http://www.orange.co.uk/sport/football/22711.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Right back at you. Either it is trolling or it isn't. And you should know. If it is, then you should surely ban him. If it isn't, then we should engage with him, surely - otherwise what's the point of a message board? And don't you really think that his latest fixation - the trashing of MLT - deserves some sort of comment? I used "perceived" because it's quite clear that some people consider him to be a troll. Some don't, however, some just think that he is forthright in his views, regardless of whether they're the shared view of the majority. Whether I agree with him or not (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't - as I do and don't with just about everyone else on here) is regardless. My point is simply this; if you don't like what he has to say, stop encouraging him to speak. For my money, pointing antagonistic posts at him is like a kid poking a wasps' nest with a stick. You'll probably get a reaction but you're bound to moan about it afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 With regards to Mr Le Tissier's England career, the facts are these. He was told to play in a B International against Russia and prove his international class prior to selection for the World Cup squad. He scored a hatrick. In his place in the World Cup Squad, Mr Hoddle selected... David Batty. Mr Batty missed the penalty which cost England any chance of winning the World Cup. Mr Le Tissier watched the game at home, where his 99% penalty record was of no use to man nor beast. From this one can draw three conclusions: 1. Mr Le Tissier did what was asked to further his international career but found Mr Hoddle wanting in honesty. 2. Mr Le Tissier is probably too polite and too content with his own life to dwell on Mr Hoddle's dishonesty and ignorance. 3. Nineteen Canteen clearly missed this entire period, otherwise he would know that the fault for Mr Le Tissier not having more England caps - potentially even winning us the World Cup - vests with Mr Hoddle and not Mr Le Tissier. I am at pains to keep this objective and removed of emotion because of the sensitivities involved in dealeing with Nineteen Canteen. But I hope this statement of facts will set the matter to rest for all concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 Thank you, Mr Coming. With regard to your point 3., Mr Canteen did indeed miss this entire period, as he was born on 25 08 09. I hope that clears up any confusion in your mind (which in no way would I imply is unsound). Yours, etc., Verbal, Esq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 What a hero, only Saints could have a self confessed under achiever as their legend. The more he talked the more I felt cheated that he had a lot more to give and the big sigh prior to the Pinnacle question being finished spoke volumes and he was lucky Mayo wasn't interested in pursuing it as any of us could have answered that question the way MLT did IMO. Good to know though he is still great friends with Lynam which IMO I found surprising. MLT admitted he never put the two words hard and work together. A trait that I guess he carried over into his bid to be chairman IMO. He then went on and said that he didn't like the thought of the 24/7 culture which begs the question why the endorse the bid in the first place? Judging by his comments we had a very lucky escape because if he had become chairman he has admitted they were only focussing on ex-saints for 'box office appeal' lol. I like Iain Dowie but really box office appeal and Keegan would have lasted half a season before the hissy fits started and Shearer is a law unto himself and no one rates himself more highly than Shearer himself - bit like a few glass housed posters on this forum. As for WGS....another Scotland manager in waiting and a manager who needs money and lots of it just to beat Rangers IMO. I thought MLT's assessment of his England career spoke volumes about why he didn't make it. He mentioned that under Ball the team were told to give him the ball at every opportunity and he was scoring 30 goals a season or thereabouts but at International level that wasn't the case, he didn't get the ball so much - doh! He countered if he had gone to a bigger club for international owners and only scored 15 goals why couldn't an England manager pick him at a smaller club scoring 30 goals. He isn't the sharpest is he? Playing at a bigger club as at international level he would see less of the ball but his game and fitness would have improved and his goals been harder earned. Sad contradiction and showed how unambitious he was even playing for us and clearly wasn't willing to up his effort with us or listen to his coaches. Perhaps England managers felt that with his role as the hub of the team he should be scoring even more or working a little harder . At the end of both interviews I felt that Matt Le Tissier had short changed us fans and more importantly himself and perhaps that's where the title of the book comes into it. Perhaps his epitaph should be 'Paul Telfer a decent player' but I ca't help thinking of the old Ian Drury song 'What a Waste' and left thinking how great he could have been as a player and the relief we must feel he is not chairman given his comments today. Im a pacifict but your crap would make the dalai lama want to cut you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 I used "perceived" because it's quite clear that some people consider him to be a troll. Some don't, however, some just think that he is forthright in his views, regardless of whether they're the shared view of the majority. Whether I agree with him or not (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't - as I do and don't with just about everyone else on here) is regardless. My point is simply this; if you don't like what he has to say, stop encouraging him to speak. For my money, pointing antagonistic posts at him is like a kid poking a wasps' nest with a stick. You'll probably get a reaction but you're bound to moan about it afterwards. Behave yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willo Posted 26 August, 2009 Share Posted 26 August, 2009 last season (or maybe the one before) Richard Keys asked Graeme Souness during the half-time of a champions league match the most gifted player he had ever worked with (as a player and a coach). Without hesitation he said MLT. Jamie Rednapp (I think) was surprised and reminded him of the great liverpool and scottish players he had played with and managed. And in reply Souness said that the things he saw MLT do in training were simply unbelievable. He said he has never seen anyone who could manipulate a ball the way he could. Just one persons opinion...but from someone who has seen many many great players in his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 last season (or maybe the one before) Richard Keys asked Graeme Souness during the half-time of a champions league match the most gifted player he had ever worked with (as a player and a coach). Without hesitation he said MLT. Jamie Rednapp (I think) was surprised and reminded him of the great liverpool and scottish players he had played with and managed. And in reply Souness said that the things he saw MLT do in training were simply unbelievable. He said he has never seen anyone who could manipulate a ball the way he could. Just one persons opinion...but from someone who has seen many many great players in his time I think we should accept that MLT is the football version of Marmite and clearly Redknapp didn't agree and he too must have seen and heard about some great players growing up in a footballing dynasty and playing the game in an era (to quote MLT as if he played 30 years ago) that players are continually assessed via Prozone and the competition for places at a club level has intensified globally. I think Souness is talking out of his backside when you see some of the players involved in the Champions League. Doing it in training is one thing but in a match situation another thing entirely just ask Mr Wu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Here's a true story from this evening. Walking through the local shopping centre here in Brisbane, Australia, wearing a polo shirt with a saints badge on it, and a complete stranger takes the p155 out of me for supporting Saints....but finished off by saying ""you lot haven't been any good since LeTissier retired" I have had countless conversations over here about saints with complete strangers (I even had a policeman stop me in McDonalds once - all because I was wearing a Saints shirt and he wanted to meet a fellow saints fan!) and in virtually every instance they have said what a fantastic player LeTissier was. How many years ago did he retire now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Behave yourself. LOL- Um Pahars informs an administrator to 'behave' because they support a poster's right to post an alternative view to his own. Thanks TSWF for a platform that supports the views of all Saints fans and their right to challenge the majority without fear of 'cliquey bullying' or trying to damage an individual by ridiculing or escalating rumours about their personal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 . Thanks TSWF for a platform that supports the views of all Saints fans and their right to challenge the majority without fear of 'cliquey bullying' or trying to damage an individual by ridiculing. Remind us again why you were banned 4 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 LOL- Um Pahars informs an administrator to 'behave' because they support a poster's right to post an alternative view to his own. Thanks TSWF for a platform that supports the views of all Saints fans and their right to challenge the majority without fear of 'cliquey bullying' or trying to damage an individual by ridiculing or escalating rumours about their personal life. Yes, I saw your apology for doing that yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 If you really believe that so many posters are attacking you because they dislike your views then you are mental. It's entirely because of the spiteful way you put your views accross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I fail to see how you can criticise MLT for his style of play. The facts remain that his goals, assists and leadership kept us in the Premier League during the 1990s. I can't see how you can possibly argue with that. If you are judged via statistics, then judge him by goals and assists. You don't get awarded points for the number of miles you run in a game! I dread to think the depths that Saints would have sunk to without having MLT in the team during the 1990s. In my opinion there would have been a fair chance we would have been relegated from the Premier League, which begs the question - would we have even been able to move stadium??? I think 19c's criticism of someone who did so much for our club is unfair and unjustified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazza26 Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I love that man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I love that man MLT or 19C???:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Let's put it to the test, shall we? All those who do not know what Nineteen's thoughts are on MLT, Crouch, Pearson and McMenemy and would like to hear them, please say "Aye" Can I take it that if there are not many "Ayes" you will kindly desist in beating the same drum ad nauseum? Well, as I see no "ayes", I take it that everybody on here knows Nineteen's views on those people and there is therefore no point in him continuing to repeat them over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 Let's put it to the test, shall we? All those who do not know what Nineteen's thoughts are on MLT, Crouch, Pearson and McMenemy and would like to hear them, please say "Aye" Can I take it that if there are not many "Ayes" you will kindly desist in beating the same drum ad nauseum? Well, as I see no "ayes", I take it that everybody on here knows Nineteen's views on those people and there is therefore no point in him continuing to repeat them over and over again. He will though won`t he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 (edited) I think we should accept that MLT is the football version of Marmite and clearly Redknapp didn't agree and he too must have seen and heard about some great players growing up in a footballing dynasty and playing the game in an era (to quote MLT as if he played 30 years ago) that players are continually assessed via Prozone and the competition for places at a club level has intensified globally. I think Souness is talking out of his backside when you see some of the players involved in the Champions League. Doing it in training is one thing but in a match situation another thing entirely just ask Mr Wu. Hang on a sec. Souness gives his opinion when asked, and you accuse him of talking out of his backside???????? Well I guess you speak from a position of authority when it comes to talking out of backsides, but please forgive me if I don't agree with your summary. Out of interest... Why would Souness give a false reply to that question? Please give me one good reason why he would do that, because I can't think of a single one. Edited 27 August, 2009 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I think Souness is talking out of his backside when you see some of the players involved in the Champions League. Erm interesting Souness played & managed at the top level for many years but he is Talking out of his arse. Doing it in training is one thing but in a match situation another thing entirely just ask Mr Wu. Maybe I'm mistaken I thought MLT had scored 162-goals in 443 games. He is currently 16 on the all time premier league list with 103 goals, now I'm no football expert but that is pretty dam good in most people's eyes as an attacking midfielder, & all done IN A MATCH SITUATION & that is FACT. this also doesn't take into account his many assists. Ask anybody any football fan would you have MLT (in his pomp) in your team today, Yes everyday of the week & twice on Sundays al IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 August, 2009 Share Posted 27 August, 2009 I think we should accept that MLT is the football version of Marmite and clearly Redknapp didn't agree and he too must have seen and heard about some great players growing up in a footballing dynasty and playing the game in an era (to quote MLT as if he played 30 years ago) that players are continually assessed via Prozone and the competition for places at a club level has intensified globally. I think Souness is talking out of his backside when you see some of the players involved in the Champions League. Doing it in training is one thing but in a match situation another thing entirely just ask Mr Wu. In Willo's story. Souness was asked to name a player he had played with or coached. Not someone he had seen on TV. Irrespective of this. You are a repulsive individual and I pity the medical and psychiatric practitioners that are treating you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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